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Another History of Magic class meant more chances for students to lose points, more chaos, and perhaps even more apples. As you make your way toward the classroom you notice a note tacked onto the door.

I shall arrive shortly. Take a seat, don't make too much noise, and killing any of your classmates is not allowed. - Profesor Scabior


Inside the class the desks have been rearranged for the new year. Instead of the standard placement the desks have all be moved so that they formed a connecting semi-circle facing the board and Professor Scabior's desk.


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Our Lesson: Wands
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Responses & Wand Core Information & Wand Wood Question
Responses & Wand Wood Information & Change of Allegiance
Responses & Wand Flexibility & End of Class





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Nikolas was writing down everything the professor had said and some of the things he had said were a bit confusing. Especially about the length of the wand. He didn't answer the cores question because everyone had already answered it.

And about the wand woods. He had something in mind, raising his hand he said "Does the wood and the cores have a relationship with how they perform magic? Like certain type of wood reacts better with an specific type of core?" Probably. And that was the only idea he had about wand woods.
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Vashti's quill flew over her parchment as fast as possible as she tried to take down notes while Professor Scabior talked. And he talked quite a bit, so there were a lot of things she had to write down. Her hand was starting to cramp by the time he asked another question and she was finally able to set her quill down. She flexed her fingers, trying to get the soreness out of them, while she raised her other hand to answer.

"I've read that bowtruckles often live in and guard trees that can be used for making a wand," she said. "So a wand can't be made out of just any old tree that you happen upon. It's not that easy." Seemed like a dangerous and tricky job, being a wandmaker. You had to find a tree that a bowtruckle live in, and then you'd have to distract the creature somehow so you could take some of the wood, and then you have to go and make a wand out of it, and yet you had no real idea whether anyone would actually buy it because people liked being all exclusive. It was an interesting job, certainly, but Vashti didn't think she could be one.
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"Correct. It completes the wand and basically makes it magical." Yes, yes. Maybe there was actually hope for this one?

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"As most of you have noted the core is the actual part of the wand that channels our magic. When you do a spell, the magical energy is projected through the core and out the wand. This works because cores are from magical creatures. In essence..the core is basically what makes the wand chose the wizard because it is the magical part of the wand" It probably was a mixture of the core and the charms put on the wand but...he would leave it at that. Cores were much easier to explain than the lengths.

"As I said before the most popular cores because of the Ollivanders are phoenix feathers, unicorn hairs, and dragon heartstrings. These are not the only cores but they have been made popular because The Ollivanders have found that these three tend to channel magic better and therefore results in using the wizard's full magical potential."

"Who knows anything about the wand woods?" He looked around. Really, the core was the easiest thing to explain and the woods sat somewhere in the middle.
Of course there was hope for Tori Bunbury. She was a BUNBURY, after all, and was therefore going to become a History of Magic genius, just like her cousin-in-law. Tutttt.

"Well there's lots of types of wand woods," Tori answered slowly. "Like... oak, mahogony, zebrawood... and wand trees are often inhabited by those little woodlice eaters... um... bowtruckles?"

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Kurumi sat quietly, wondering if she should even really bother answering since this had been two times in a row that the professor had ignored her answer. She hadn't even gone off in great length this time! She had kept it to one sentence...twice.

She sighed a bit as she thought about wand woods before raising her hand. "Each wand wood is also better suited for different types of spell work. Some examples are mahogany is known to be a good wand wood for transfiguration, whereas willow is better suited for for charm work."
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"Who knows anything about the wand woods?" He looked around. Really, the core was the easiest thing to explain and the woods sat somewhere in the middle. [/color]
August sat there and listened intently as Professor Scabior talked and talked and talked about Wands and their cores; hsi quill moving across his parchment as fast as he could take notes. He hadn't known any of this stuff and then the Gryffindor was thinking about how much he ahd just taken his newly acquired wand for granted.

Now being Muggleborn he really didn't know much about wand woods but he had learned a few things since being in the Wizarding World these past four months. "Well Professor I know that there are certain types of wood that are used for wands like Holly, Willow, hawthorne, etc. And that all woods are not always acceptable." He nodded and then continued. "Also the wood doesn't necessarily have to be completely brittle either. The flexability is a key factor in a wand's identity." There he had exhausted his little bit of wand knowledge.
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Alyssa raised her hand and answered:

"Professor, could it be that the way the wand behaves for it's owner is determined by the core and the type of wood used? Like for example, the wood seems to be able to sense the characteristics and abilities of the handler and will either reject or accept the person as it's owner based on what the wood's qualities are and whether it will complement or counteract the owner's qualities. Most wand woods look for similarities in the characters of the person it serves."

Alyssa hoped that she was making sense.
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Marilyn's eyes widen at the answers being shouted.

Hmm...

Raising her hand, "While I'm not sure there is much I can add to the conversation...Perhaps there is less about the wand's wood that allows the wand to choose who it might go to...It's being suggested by the celtic calender that we'd basically get whatever wood might coincide with our day of birth. What are your thoughts on this, sir?"
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Eino couldn't help it but to blabber when he was excited about something. Usually, it was projected as an endless chain of questions, but other times he just couldn't say exactly what he was thinking because he wasn't all that sure what he was thinking. But Professor Scabior seemed to understand his own thoughts better than he himself, so he was content. After taking out notes and letting out a heavy sigh, he raised his hand. "They aren't magical on their own, but is it possible that different cores react with the wood, making it magical?" Just like rats tail in potion. It's not a magical ingredient but together with other ingredients it became magical. Maybe it was the same for wands.
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Wand woods? Why had Sierra never thought this in-depth about her wand before? Hmm... She guessed that was what class was for--to get you to thinking. "Well, certain types of wood symbolize different things," she pointed out, her hand in the air. "Holly, for example, comes from the name holy and is said to repel evil. So maybe, since the wand chooses the wizard, things like what the wood symbolizes represent what a person has done or might be capable of." She shrugged then added, "It's what Harry Potter's wand was made of." Which made perfect sense when you looked at his history.
Still on this? What a person might be capable of? He sighed. Really...it wasn't a WRONG answer so..."Well..in a way..yes. The wood does symbolize what a person might be capable of..yes.." Now his brain was turning..itching to open up some books and find this theory.

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Continuing to jot down notes, Mina thought back at what she remembered from her first year and the kinds of wand woods. It was all a bit rusty in her memory, but again her hand went up.

"Much like the core, the wood that a wand is made from makes the wand unique. Just like there are a minority of humans that can do magic, there is a minority of trees that can produce wand quality woods. A lot of the woods that do produce wand quality woods are on the Celtic tree calender. But by no means does that mean any two wands of the same wood can be described the same way. The type of wood is like the core as it kind of deals with the personality of the wizard too. Certain woods are drawn to certain personalities just like cores are."

Seriously, the more she thought about it all; the more she got excited about what the lesson was going to hold today. The whole thing was like a puzzle to her and she did like puzzles.
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Harlow raised her hand, "Well wand woods differ from different parts of the world. Like in Africa zebrawood is a more common wand wood. But only a few trees around the world can be made into wands. If Bowtruckles are nesting int he trees that is usually a sign that the wood is suitable for wandmaking." She explained.
"Right! In different parts of the world because they have different trees, some types of wand woods are more common than others." And the Bowtruckle fact! Oh Slytherins, so smart. "Correct! Bowtruckles are the best sign of a tree which would be perfect for wands."

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Nikolas was writing down everything the professor had said and some of the things he had said were a bit confusing. Especially about the length of the wand. He didn't answer the cores question because everyone had already answered it.

And about the wand woods. He had something in mind, raising his hand he said "Does the wood and the cores have a relationship with how they perform magic? Like certain type of wood reacts better with an specific type of core?" Probably. And that was the only idea he had about wand woods.
"They do have a relationship but the wood doesn't exactly react better with a certain type of core. They all react..differently one doesn't react better than another." The wording was just different. Yeah.

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Vashti's quill flew over her parchment as fast as possible as she tried to take down notes while Professor Scabior talked. And he talked quite a bit, so there were a lot of things she had to write down. Her hand was starting to cramp by the time he asked another question and she was finally able to set her quill down. She flexed her fingers, trying to get the soreness out of them, while she raised her other hand to answer.

"I've read that bowtruckles often live in and guard trees that can be used for making a wand," she said. "So a wand can't be made out of just any old tree that you happen upon. It's not that easy." Seemed like a dangerous and tricky job, being a wandmaker. You had to find a tree that a bowtruckle live in, and then you'd have to distract the creature somehow so you could take some of the wood, and then you have to go and make a wand out of it, and yet you had no real idea whether anyone would actually buy it because people liked being all exclusive. It was an interesting job, certainly, but Vashti didn't think she could be one.
He nodded. "What you read was correct. It does tend to be hard making a wand out of any old tree, however if you are an expert wand maker you do have the capability to make it work."

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Of course there was hope for Tori Bunbury. She was a BUNBURY, after all, and was therefore going to become a History of Magic genius, just like her cousin-in-law. Tutttt.

"Well there's lots of types of wand woods," Tori answered slowly. "Like... oak, mahogony, zebrawood... and wand trees are often inhabited by those little woodlice eaters... um... bowtruckles?"

Yeahhhhh.
Of course there were lots of types of wand woods. There were lots of trees. "Correct." She had started the obvious..and she was right.

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Kurumi sat quietly, wondering if she should even really bother answering since this had been two times in a row that the professor had ignored her answer. She hadn't even gone off in great length this time! She had kept it to one sentence...twice.

She sighed a bit as she thought about wand woods before raising her hand. "Each wand wood is also better suited for different types of spell work. Some examples are mahogany is known to be a good wand wood for transfiguration, whereas willow is better suited for for charm work."
Wow. She actually didn't go on and on! "Yes. Because the wand holds the personality it very well might be the part of the wand which decides what subject it is best at." He nodded. Scabior didn't know for sure though.

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August sat there and listened intently as Professor Scabior talked and talked and talked about Wands and their cores; hsi quill moving across his parchment as fast as he could take notes. He hadn't known any of this stuff and then the Gryffindor was thinking about how much he ahd just taken his newly acquired wand for granted.

Now being Muggleborn he really didn't know much about wand woods but he had learned a few things since being in the Wizarding World these past four months. "Well Professor I know that there are certain types of wood that are used for wands like Holly, Willow, hawthorne, etc. And that all woods are not always acceptable." He nodded and then continued. "Also the wood doesn't necessarily have to be completely brittle either. The flexability is a key factor in a wand's identity." There he had exhausted his little bit of wand knowledge.
"Correct. Yes. And we shall talk about flexibility soon enough. Hold on." Yeah. Don't move ahead kid.

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Alyssa raised her hand and answered:

"Professor, could it be that the way the wand behaves for it's owner is determined by the core and the type of wood used? Like for example, the wood seems to be able to sense the characteristics and abilities of the handler and will either reject or accept the person as it's owner based on what the wood's qualities are and whether it will complement or counteract the owner's qualities. Most wand woods look for similarities in the characters of the person it serves."

Alyssa hoped that she was making sense.
It took a few seconds before what she has said mades its way to his brain. "If..you are saying what I think you are saying then yes. You are absolutely correct."

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Hmm...

Raising her hand, "While I'm not sure there is much I can add to the conversation...Perhaps there is less about the wand's wood that allows the wand to choose who it might go to...It's being suggested by the celtic calender that we'd basically get whatever wood might coincide with our day of birth. What are your thoughts on this, sir?"
His thoughts? Woaah."Well...I am no expert." Scabior shrugged. "But sometimes the celtic calendar does determine what wood your wand will have." It did for him at least.


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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
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Crraaap. They back on a topic that Sky wasn't as knowledgeable about. Still, she decided to take a crack at it. "The wood interacts with the core once it's activated to help produce the spell one's trying to cast," she answered. She hoped that was correct.

Sky had her hand up immediately after the next question. "If one wizard kills or disarms another, the wand will usually change alleginces. Probably because the wand senses that the winning wizard is stronger somehow than the defeated wizard," she replied. She really hoped that made sense.
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"Correct. Yes. And we shall talk about flexibility soon enough. Hold on." Yeah. Don't move ahead kid.

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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
Oh he was ahead of the game on the flexability part of the lesson then? He had heard Professors liked that. He was on fire then! He looked around the room at the other students, yep he was.

Hmmm so more on the personality of the wand. He again thought of his own wand and decided he was going to ask the Professor about it when the lesson was over like he had just suggested. It was always good to know about the wand you depend on now.

Change of allegiance? THAT CAN HAPPEN!? Auggie suddenly became fearful. What if his wand didn't want him anymore? "Professor how does that work? Can your wand see another witch or wizard and decide it chose wrong and leave its original owner?" he sure hoped that never happened.
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Scabior cleared his throat. Ready to go into full on lecture mode. Hopefully no one was sleeping at the moment? "So, wand lengths range, they can be as short as 8 inches, or as long as 16 inches." Yes. A 16 inch wand. "They also increase or decrease in values of 1/4 an inch." Got it? Yeah. "Anyways, their are three basic factors if you will, that the wand length relates to. There can be more of course, however these are the most basic ones that the foundations rest upon. The height of the wizard, the length of the forearm, and finally the wizard personality." Scabior pulled out his wand from it holster, and gave a flick toward the board, writing the four factors down before he held his wand up to show the class.

"My wand, right here is 10¾. Practical for me. For anyone else? Maybe not. Now, I can guarantee you that at 11 years old, when I got this wand, my forearm was not as long as this wand." No. And he was fairly normal for an 11 year ol. "And obviously I was not this tall." A six foot tall 11 year old? Yeah..right. "So you might be wondering what is the point then that my arm was measured then? Well the height and size of the wizard has a direct relationship with their perfect wand. The relationship is of a magical nature and more about finding the right balance of characteristics than a particular size of wand. So the measuring of the height and forearm and more about balance rather than about size." Was he making sense? Hopefully. All the points really did just tie together.

"Now, the actual magical balance of the wand. That is a little more difficult to understand but simply put it refers to balancing the relationship between the core, the wood and the quality." He wasn't going to linger on this. But he did expect everyone to write this down.

"And lastly, the wizard or witches' personality. Generally, if a person is outspoke, loud, and has a really big personality, their wand length will tend to be longer than others. And if they are more shy, quite, or even maybe missing something in their life, their wand will tend to have a shorter length." He looked around the class. Were you all writing? You better be. "However nothing is guaranteed. A person could very well have a big personality and a short wand, because that is just how the balance of the wand works." He was slightly worried that people would be confused. "Just remember height and forearm measurements are about finding balance, while your actual personality determines the length of the wand however these two might butt heads resulting in like a shorter wand for a more outspoke person."

Wand length? Check.

"Any questions so far?" He paused, waiting for a second as he looked around the room. The length was probably the most complicated part of the wand. "Anyone know the reason as to why we need a core for our wands?"
Amethyst gently raised her hand and spoke softly. "The core is the connection to magic, just as electricity is the connection to internet

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"As most of you have noted the core is the actual part of the wand that channels our magic. When you do a spell, the magical energy is projected through the core and out the wand. This works because cores are from magical creatures. In essence..the core is basically what makes the wand chose the wizard because it is the magical part of the wand" It probably was a mixture of the core and the charms put on the wand but...he would leave it at that. Cores were much easier to explain than the lengths.

"As I said before the most popular cores because of the Ollivanders are phoenix feathers, unicorn hairs, and dragon heartstrings. These are not the only cores but they have been made popular because The Ollivanders have found that these three tend to channel magic better and therefore results in using the wizard's full magical potential."

"Who knows anything about the wand woods?" He looked around. Really, the core was the easiest thing to explain and the woods sat somewhere in the middle.
"The wood is what holds the magic together?" She said with her hand raised. She had hoped that her answer made since.
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"Yes. As the wand is the one that choses it's owner, generally it picks someone that will fit it as well. Characteristics play a part as well." He didn't know everything about wands but he knew enough.

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Scabior cleared his throat. Ready to go into full on lecture mode. Hopefully no one was sleeping at the moment? "So, wand lengths range, they can be as short as 8 inches, or as long as 16 inches." Yes. A 16 inch wand. "They also increase or decrease in values of 1/4 an inch." Got it? Yeah. "Anyways, their are three basic factors if you will, that the wand length relates to. There can be more of course, however these are the most basic ones that the foundations rest upon. The height of the wizard, the length of the forearm, and finally the wizard personality." Scabior pulled out his wand from it holster, and gave a flick toward the board, writing the four factors down before he held his wand up to show the class.

"My wand, right here is 10¾. Practical for me. For anyone else? Maybe not. Now, I can guarantee you that at 11 years old, when I got this wand, my forearm was not as long as this wand." No. And he was fairly normal for an 11 year ol. "And obviously I was not this tall." A six foot tall 11 year old? Yeah..right. "So you might be wondering what is the point then that my arm was measured then? Well the height and size of the wizard has a direct relationship with their perfect wand. The relationship is of a magical nature and more about finding the right balance of characteristics than a particular size of wand. So the measuring of the height and forearm and more about balance rather than about size." Was he making sense? Hopefully. All the points really did just tie together.

"Now, the actual magical balance of the wand. That is a little more difficult to understand but simply put it refers to balancing the relationship between the core, the wood and the quality." He wasn't going to linger on this. But he did expect everyone to write this down.

"And lastly, the wizard or witches' personality. Generally, if a person is outspoke, loud, and has a really big personality, their wand length will tend to be longer than others. And if they are more shy, quite, or even maybe missing something in their life, their wand will tend to have a shorter length." He looked around the class. Were you all writing? You better be. "However nothing is guaranteed. A person could very well have a big personality and a short wand, because that is just how the balance of the wand works." He was slightly worried that people would be confused. "Just remember height and forearm measurements are about finding balance, while your actual personality determines the length of the wand however these two might butt heads resulting in like a shorter wand for a more outspoke person."

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"Any questions so far?" He paused, waiting for a second as he looked around the room. The length was probably the most complicated part of the wand. "Anyone know the reason as to why we need a core for our wands?"
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"As most of you have noted the core is the actual part of the wand that channels our magic. When you do a spell, the magical energy is projected through the core and out the wand. This works because cores are from magical creatures. In essence..the core is basically what makes the wand chose the wizard because it is the magical part of the wand" It probably was a mixture of the core and the charms put on the wand but...he would leave it at that. Cores were much easier to explain than the lengths.

"As I said before the most popular cores because of the Ollivanders are phoenix feathers, unicorn hairs, and dragon heartstrings. These are not the only cores but they have been made popular because The Ollivanders have found that these three tend to channel magic better and therefore results in using the wizard's full magical potential."

"Who knows anything about the wand woods?" He looked around. Really, the core was the easiest thing to explain and the woods sat somewhere in the middle.
Jez hurriedly took down all the information. If she wanted to be a wandmaker when she left Hogwarts, she'd need it. Jez raised her hand. "The wood used has to match with the person who owns the wand. If the wood used is springy, it might say something for the person's character. Also the Celtic wood calendar might be used to match a wand with the owner. The Celts were some of the first people to use wands in their religious practices, and they believed your 'wand' wood needed to match you, so they developed a calendar to match a person's birth date to the type of wood used for their wand." Although that method couldn't have been used for Jez's matching, since her birthday didn't coincide to her wand wood ... hmm.
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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
Merlin! Who knew there was so much to know about wands? And Scabior wasn't even covering the half of it! Tori made a little note on her parchment about asking the professor her wand's personality at the end of the lesson.

"Well you have to disarm someone or effectively 'win' their wand's allegiance to you. Sometimes you can win it by killing them, but I think a simple 'expelliarmus' spell is much easier."

Tori nodded. Wands didn't just up and leave you like a bad lover one day.
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Kurumi had always found the bond between a wizard and their wand to be...interesting. She wasn't sure if that was the right word to describe it, but it reminded her of when her brothers and her were trying to decide which puppy to chose. One of her brothers had picked the most energetic one because he wanted to play with it a lot, but the puppy hadn't been very pleased and nipped at them all repeatedly. Kurumi had sat on the ground, waiting for a puppy to approach her, and when one did, that was the one that they took home.

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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
Amethyst raised her hand, "A wand can suddenly leave its original owner for another when the original owner's personality changes dramatically and the wand wants out?" She questioned her own answer.
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"Whew!, the Professor is definitely on a roll now. He's going through the lesson so fast, that it's hard trying to keep up with him. But keep up is what I must do, "Alyssa told herself trying to jot down everything the Professor said but at the same time figuring out what the next answer to his question was.

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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
Alyssa raised her hand and answered:

"The wand would change it's allegiance when it's owner has been disarmed by another. The wand then accepts the disarmer as the more powerful of the two and accepts the person as it's new master. That could be one reason when it would change allegiance. But is is possible that the change of allegiance could also depend on the type of core inside the wand. Of the three popular cores used, dragon heartstring seems to be the core that is adaptable and will change allegiance easily. Maybe if the core was Phoenix feather or Unicorn hair, it would be harder to win over the allegiance of the wand, even though the person is now the new owner."
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Nikolas continued writing down everything, because there was a lot of stuff he didn't knew since he didn't like to read. Hehe. Okay so ohh...he knew the answer of this question.

The fifth year raised his hand "When the owner is disarmed or killed, the wand changes owner and belongs to the person who defeated his previous master." he replied.
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Wow!!

This class had been sooooo...full of interesting info so far. Yet since he did know very few about wands and how they worked and length, core, woods and stuff, the Gryffindor just remained silent and watched everyone from where he sat, blinking around.

Wow...

It was, the wand, directly related to who one was in general then. Did that mean the old duelling expert man also learned who he was when he examined his wand? So, did the lady at Ollivanders know who he was when she had handed his wand to him six years ago?

Woow...

All curious to know further, Josh unholstered his wand of Hazel wood and Salamander scale core and just...stared at it. Yes yes, surely he wanted to know his specific wand personality. But that had to be at the end of the class, apparently he had to wait.

Okaaaaay...

And it was time for him to speak up a bit, despite the fact that he did not know much about this stuff, was not it?

''Well...should we like...impress the wand so we can convince it that we would make a better master? Like beating its owner. Or simply and naturally be more powerful than the previous owner?''


Seriously, how would a wand be able to tell the difference though?
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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"
A bit reluctantly, Vashti picked up her quill again and took down a few more notes. Then she set her quill back down, relieved that her hand didn't feel quite as cramped now. When a wand changes its allegiance... She'd read a bit about this too, so she raised her hand once more. "Doesn't it usually change when its owner is defeated or killed in a duel? I don't think it completely changes its allegiance if its owner is only defeated or disarmed though, if the owner retrieves their wand and continues to use it after, and I think there are some wands that won't change their allegiance at all because of the type of wood that's used." Because there was pretty much always an exception to any rule.
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"There are many types of trees out there. All of them can be used to make a wand. Now, the type of wand that makes up your wand works with the core, to essentially pick the wizard or witch." It was as easy as that basically. "Since the core is the part of the wand that makes it magic. The wood is the part that adds personality. When these two are combined, the wand obtains it's own personality or a certain one that matches the wizard of it's choice. He held up his wand. "Every type of wood has a personality. Although I will not go over them all now." THAT would bore everyone to death. Including him. And he quite liked his life. "If you wish to know your specific wand personality tell me at the end of class and we will arrange something."

"Moving on" There was a LOT of information to cover. "There are a few fundamental laws which govern the ownership of wands. The first, which many of you know is that the wand chooses the wizard. I want to speak about another law however. The change of allegiance in a wand. Who knows when this happens? When and why would a wand suddenly decide to leave its original owner for another?"




Harvey had sort of briefly read about this somewhere so he put up his hand "A change in allegiance would happen when the wand's previous owner is conquered this is the time the wand would decide to change its allegiance. Such as when Draco Malfoy disarmed Albus Dumbledore, the allegiance of the wand transferred to him. But then Harry Potter snatched it out of Draco Malfoy's hands and thus the wand changed allegiance once more. So the owner must be conquered or disarmed for the wand to change allegiance. Or even if the wand were snatched the way Harry Potter snatched it, the wand would change allegiance. BUT this only lasts if the original owner does not come back to reclaim his wand." Harvey hoped he was right in some way or another.

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Ashley wrote down some notes, then raised his hand. "A wand can change allegiance if its owner was killed or disarmed... but some wands don't do that, right? Or it's very hard to get them to change, even if something happened to the owner? They're very, very loyal." He'd heard that, anyway.
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Marie sat there listening to everyone go on about how a wand changes allegiance from one person to another. If all they had to do was disarm someone then that meant she should be the owner of Cousin It's wand.

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Hand in the air Marie just had to ask. "So Professor, if you disarm someone in a duel that you are clearly the winner of, does that mean the other person's wand will be loyal to you then?" She then looked over at Marilyn.

'Yeah, I'm talking about you and your wand.' The wand the short dude picked up and gave back to Marilyn when apparently he should have been handing it over to Marie.
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Crraaap. They back on a topic that Sky wasn't as knowledgeable about. Still, she decided to take a crack at it. "The wood interacts with the core once it's activated to help produce the spell one's trying to cast," she answered. She hoped that was correct.

Sky had her hand up immediately after the next question. "If one wizard kills or disarms another, the wand will usually change alleginces. Probably because the wand senses that the winning wizard is stronger somehow than the defeated wizard," she replied. She really hoped that made sense.
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Oh he was ahead of the game on the flexability part of the lesson then? He had heard Professors liked that. He was on fire then! He looked around the room at the other students, yep he was.

Hmmm so more on the personality of the wand. He again thought of his own wand and decided he was going to ask the Professor about it when the lesson was over like he had just suggested. It was always good to know about the wand you depend on now.

Change of allegiance? THAT CAN HAPPEN!? Auggie suddenly became fearful. What if his wand didn't want him anymore? "Professor how does that work? Can your wand see another witch or wizard and decide it chose wrong and leave its original owner?" he sure hoped that never happened.
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Merlin! Who knew there was so much to know about wands? And Scabior wasn't even covering the half of it! Tori made a little note on her parchment about asking the professor her wand's personality at the end of the lesson.

"Well you have to disarm someone or effectively 'win' their wand's allegiance to you. Sometimes you can win it by killing them, but I think a simple 'expelliarmus' spell is much easier."

Tori nodded. Wands didn't just up and leave you like a bad lover one day.
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Kurumi had always found the bond between a wizard and their wand to be...interesting. She wasn't sure if that was the right word to describe it, but it reminded her of when her brothers and her were trying to decide which puppy to chose. One of her brothers had picked the most energetic one because he wanted to play with it a lot, but the puppy hadn't been very pleased and nipped at them all repeatedly. Kurumi had sat on the ground, waiting for a puppy to approach her, and when one did, that was the one that they took home.

SO...wands were kind of like loyal dogs. That thought brought a smile to her face, but she didn't say it out loud. Professor Scary Face would probably have a few words with her about such a metaphor.

"I think that a wand changes its alliance when another wizard forcefully removes it from its original owner. This could be done by either physically wresting it from his hand or using a Disarmament Charm," Kurumi said after raising her hand. "Professor, if a wand has a strong enough bond with a witch or wizard, is it possible that it won't switch its allegiance?"
"That is correct. Physically wresting a wand from its owners hand allows causes it to chance its alliance." Scabior expected the Prefect to end there but when she went on to ask him a question his eyes widened a bit before he broke out in a grin. "Well no. Not exactly. I'll explain I'll explain."


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"No. Not exactly." Scabior guessed that it was a good guess, but it ddn't work that way. [B]"Lots of people change their personalities. It's a part of life, growing up, and going through different stages, that doesn't mean however that the wand can just up and leave them.

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"Whew!, the Professor is definitely on a roll now. He's going through the lesson so fast, that it's hard trying to keep up with him. But keep up is what I must do, "Alyssa told herself trying to jot down everything the Professor said but at the same time figuring out what the next answer to his question was.

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"The wand would change it's allegiance when it's owner has been disarmed by another. The wand then accepts the disarmer as the more powerful of the two and accepts the person as it's new master. That could be one reason when it would change allegiance. But is is possible that the change of allegiance could also depend on the type of core inside the wand. Of the three popular cores used, dragon heartstring seems to be the core that is adaptable and will change allegiance easily. Maybe if the core was Phoenix feather or Unicorn hair, it would be harder to win over the allegiance of the wand, even though the person is now the new owner."
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Nikolas continued writing down everything, because there was a lot of stuff he didn't knew since he didn't like to read. Hehe. Okay so ohh...he knew the answer of this question.

The fifth year raised his hand "When the owner is disarmed or killed, the wand changes owner and belongs to the person who defeated his previous master." he replied.
"Right. Good job." Yes, simple and correct.

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Wow!!

This class had been sooooo...full of interesting info so far. Yet since he did know very few about wands and how they worked and length, core, woods and stuff, the Gryffindor just remained silent and watched everyone from where he sat, blinking around.

Wow...

It was, the wand, directly related to who one was in general then. Did that mean the old duelling expert man also learned who he was when he examined his wand? So, did the lady at Ollivanders know who he was when she had handed his wand to him six years ago?

Woow...

All curious to know further, Josh unholstered his wand of Hazel wood and Salamander scale core and just...stared at it. Yes yes, surely he wanted to know his specific wand personality. But that had to be at the end of the class, apparently he had to wait.

Okaaaaay...

And it was time for him to speak up a bit, despite the fact that he did not know much about this stuff, was not it?

''Well...should we like...impress the wand so we can convince it that we would make a better master? Like beating its owner. Or simply and naturally be more powerful than the previous owner?''


Seriously, how would a wand be able to tell the difference though?
"While it does have to do with beating the owner it has absolutely nothing to do with impressing the wand. The wand leaves the owner because the disarmed wizard's wand leaving the owner is one of the laws of wands."

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A bit reluctantly, Vashti picked up her quill again and took down a few more notes. Then she set her quill back down, relieved that her hand didn't feel quite as cramped now. When a wand changes its allegiance... She'd read a bit about this too, so she raised her hand once more. "Doesn't it usually change when its owner is defeated or killed in a duel? I don't think it completely changes its allegiance if its owner is only defeated or disarmed though, if the owner retrieves their wand and continues to use it after, and I think there are some wands that won't change their allegiance at all because of the type of wood that's used." Because there was pretty much always an exception to any rule.
"You are right. It has to do slightly with the wood but not exactly. I'll go over it more." Nod.

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Harvey had sort of briefly read about this somewhere so he put up his hand "A change in allegiance would happen when the wand's previous owner is conquered this is the time the wand would decide to change its allegiance. Such as when Draco Malfoy disarmed Albus Dumbledore, the allegiance of the wand transferred to him. But then Harry Potter snatched it out of Draco Malfoy's hands and thus the wand changed allegiance once more. So the owner must be conquered or disarmed for the wand to change allegiance. Or even if the wand were snatched the way Harry Potter snatched it, the wand would change allegiance. BUT this only lasts if the original owner does not come back to reclaim his wand." Harvey hoped he was right in some way or another.
"You are right. However some wands never return to their original owners." That would be sad but true

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"The idea of a wand changing of allegiance in a wand is a really simple one. Most of you know it but for those who don't? Listen up." He pointed his wand on the board writing two words down. "A wand will leave it's owner if it's owner is disarmed, or killed. This is called change of allegiance and it is called one of the subtle laws in Wandlore. It is a fact and should work for all wands but sometimes it does not." He paused, letting them all soak in the information. Heh, he was teaching a lot today wasn't he?

"Now the reason why some wands do not leave their original owners or why some leave their owners really quickly is due to the wand flexibility." Yes. It was true. "Wand flexibility or rigidity is the willingness to change and adapt of the wand-and-wizard pair." Pause again. He liked to let things sink in. "In normal people terms, that means; your wands loyalty and how well it works, depends on how flexible it is. Usually when you get your wand the wand maker will give you a slight note of the flexibility. I'll use my wand again as an example." He picked it up again, showing it to the class. "When I got my wand, the wandmaker distinctly said that my wand was supple. Which basically means that my wand would be pretty willing to adapt and change its allegiance to its new master, If I was disarmed. If someone were to have a wand that was..let's say..unyielding that would mean it would resist going to the new owner." There were more types of flexibility but Scabior wasn't going to go over that. "Keep in mind though, that as wands and wizards grow together, it might not matter how supple or unyielding it was at first. If you treat your unyielding wand bad then it might quickly chance owners the first chance it gets." And clearly that would be bad.

"Now we have discussed wands. What they are made up of, and how they work. And there is a saying that some of you have said in this class that many wizards and witches seem to take to heart. And that saying is, wands of elder never prosper. I want you all to keep that saying in mind. Think about what it means and what it's deeper meaning is. And keep it in mind for our next class." He looked down at his watch on his hand. Yeah. That was enough.

"You lot are dismissed. No homework for this class but your final will be up on the noticeboard soon. Keep a look out." Nudge, nudge. By soon, he meant SOON. He wanted to give them time to work on it.
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