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Crraaap. They back on a topic that Sky wasn't as knowledgeable about. Still, she decided to take a crack at it. "The wood interacts with the core once it's activated to help produce the spell one's trying to cast," she answered. She hoped that was correct.

Sky had her hand up immediately after the next question. "If one wizard kills or disarms another, the wand will usually change alleginces. Probably because the wand senses that the winning wizard is stronger somehow than the defeated wizard," she replied. She really hoped that made sense.
"Exactly. The wand does not sense that the winning wizard is stronger however." No. That was wrong. Completely wrong. "I think that has only been the case for the Elder wand."

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Oh he was ahead of the game on the flexability part of the lesson then? He had heard Professors liked that. He was on fire then! He looked around the room at the other students, yep he was.

Hmmm so more on the personality of the wand. He again thought of his own wand and decided he was going to ask the Professor about it when the lesson was over like he had just suggested. It was always good to know about the wand you depend on now.

Change of allegiance? THAT CAN HAPPEN!? Auggie suddenly became fearful. What if his wand didn't want him anymore? "Professor how does that work? Can your wand see another witch or wizard and decide it chose wrong and leave its original owner?" he sure hoped that never happened.
Dash chuckled. "No, no. It doesn't work like that. I'll explain though Mr.Goldstein."

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Merlin! Who knew there was so much to know about wands? And Scabior wasn't even covering the half of it! Tori made a little note on her parchment about asking the professor her wand's personality at the end of the lesson.

"Well you have to disarm someone or effectively 'win' their wand's allegiance to you. Sometimes you can win it by killing them, but I think a simple 'expelliarmus' spell is much easier."

Tori nodded. Wands didn't just up and leave you like a bad lover one day.
"Exactly. Perfect. Killing and disarming causes the owners bond with the wand to break." Either way you were removing the wand from the owner.

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Kurumi had always found the bond between a wizard and their wand to be...interesting. She wasn't sure if that was the right word to describe it, but it reminded her of when her brothers and her were trying to decide which puppy to chose. One of her brothers had picked the most energetic one because he wanted to play with it a lot, but the puppy hadn't been very pleased and nipped at them all repeatedly. Kurumi had sat on the ground, waiting for a puppy to approach her, and when one did, that was the one that they took home.

SO...wands were kind of like loyal dogs. That thought brought a smile to her face, but she didn't say it out loud. Professor Scary Face would probably have a few words with her about such a metaphor.

"I think that a wand changes its alliance when another wizard forcefully removes it from its original owner. This could be done by either physically wresting it from his hand or using a Disarmament Charm," Kurumi said after raising her hand. "Professor, if a wand has a strong enough bond with a witch or wizard, is it possible that it won't switch its allegiance?"
"That is correct. Physically wresting a wand from its owners hand allows causes it to chance its alliance." Scabior expected the Prefect to end there but when she went on to ask him a question his eyes widened a bit before he broke out in a grin. "Well no. Not exactly. I'll explain I'll explain."


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Amethyst raised her hand, "A wand can suddenly leave its original owner for another when the original owner's personality changes dramatically and the wand wants out?" She questioned her own answer.
"No. Not exactly." Scabior guessed that it was a good guess, but it ddn't work that way. [B]"Lots of people change their personalities. It's a part of life, growing up, and going through different stages, that doesn't mean however that the wand can just up and leave them.

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"Whew!, the Professor is definitely on a roll now. He's going through the lesson so fast, that it's hard trying to keep up with him. But keep up is what I must do, "Alyssa told herself trying to jot down everything the Professor said but at the same time figuring out what the next answer to his question was.

Alyssa raised her hand and answered:

"The wand would change it's allegiance when it's owner has been disarmed by another. The wand then accepts the disarmer as the more powerful of the two and accepts the person as it's new master. That could be one reason when it would change allegiance. But is is possible that the change of allegiance could also depend on the type of core inside the wand. Of the three popular cores used, dragon heartstring seems to be the core that is adaptable and will change allegiance easily. Maybe if the core was Phoenix feather or Unicorn hair, it would be harder to win over the allegiance of the wand, even though the person is now the new owner."
"You are correct but the wand changing owners has nothing to do with the core. We already went over the properties of the core." Something else.

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Nikolas continued writing down everything, because there was a lot of stuff he didn't knew since he didn't like to read. Hehe. Okay so ohh...he knew the answer of this question.

The fifth year raised his hand "When the owner is disarmed or killed, the wand changes owner and belongs to the person who defeated his previous master." he replied.
"Right. Good job." Yes, simple and correct.

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Wow!!

This class had been sooooo...full of interesting info so far. Yet since he did know very few about wands and how they worked and length, core, woods and stuff, the Gryffindor just remained silent and watched everyone from where he sat, blinking around.

Wow...

It was, the wand, directly related to who one was in general then. Did that mean the old duelling expert man also learned who he was when he examined his wand? So, did the lady at Ollivanders know who he was when she had handed his wand to him six years ago?

Woow...

All curious to know further, Josh unholstered his wand of Hazel wood and Salamander scale core and just...stared at it. Yes yes, surely he wanted to know his specific wand personality. But that had to be at the end of the class, apparently he had to wait.

Okaaaaay...

And it was time for him to speak up a bit, despite the fact that he did not know much about this stuff, was not it?

''Well...should we like...impress the wand so we can convince it that we would make a better master? Like beating its owner. Or simply and naturally be more powerful than the previous owner?''


Seriously, how would a wand be able to tell the difference though?
"While it does have to do with beating the owner it has absolutely nothing to do with impressing the wand. The wand leaves the owner because the disarmed wizard's wand leaving the owner is one of the laws of wands."

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A bit reluctantly, Vashti picked up her quill again and took down a few more notes. Then she set her quill back down, relieved that her hand didn't feel quite as cramped now. When a wand changes its allegiance... She'd read a bit about this too, so she raised her hand once more. "Doesn't it usually change when its owner is defeated or killed in a duel? I don't think it completely changes its allegiance if its owner is only defeated or disarmed though, if the owner retrieves their wand and continues to use it after, and I think there are some wands that won't change their allegiance at all because of the type of wood that's used." Because there was pretty much always an exception to any rule.
"You are right. It has to do slightly with the wood but not exactly. I'll go over it more." Nod.

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Harvey had sort of briefly read about this somewhere so he put up his hand "A change in allegiance would happen when the wand's previous owner is conquered this is the time the wand would decide to change its allegiance. Such as when Draco Malfoy disarmed Albus Dumbledore, the allegiance of the wand transferred to him. But then Harry Potter snatched it out of Draco Malfoy's hands and thus the wand changed allegiance once more. So the owner must be conquered or disarmed for the wand to change allegiance. Or even if the wand were snatched the way Harry Potter snatched it, the wand would change allegiance. BUT this only lasts if the original owner does not come back to reclaim his wand." Harvey hoped he was right in some way or another.
"You are right. However some wands never return to their original owners." That would be sad but true

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"The idea of a wand changing of allegiance in a wand is a really simple one. Most of you know it but for those who don't? Listen up." He pointed his wand on the board writing two words down. "A wand will leave it's owner if it's owner is disarmed, or killed. This is called change of allegiance and it is called one of the subtle laws in Wandlore. It is a fact and should work for all wands but sometimes it does not." He paused, letting them all soak in the information. Heh, he was teaching a lot today wasn't he?

"Now the reason why some wands do not leave their original owners or why some leave their owners really quickly is due to the wand flexibility." Yes. It was true. "Wand flexibility or rigidity is the willingness to change and adapt of the wand-and-wizard pair." Pause again. He liked to let things sink in. "In normal people terms, that means; your wands loyalty and how well it works, depends on how flexible it is. Usually when you get your wand the wand maker will give you a slight note of the flexibility. I'll use my wand again as an example." He picked it up again, showing it to the class. "When I got my wand, the wandmaker distinctly said that my wand was supple. Which basically means that my wand would be pretty willing to adapt and change its allegiance to its new master, If I was disarmed. If someone were to have a wand that was..let's say..unyielding that would mean it would resist going to the new owner." There were more types of flexibility but Scabior wasn't going to go over that. "Keep in mind though, that as wands and wizards grow together, it might not matter how supple or unyielding it was at first. If you treat your unyielding wand bad then it might quickly chance owners the first chance it gets." And clearly that would be bad.

"Now we have discussed wands. What they are made up of, and how they work. And there is a saying that some of you have said in this class that many wizards and witches seem to take to heart. And that saying is, wands of elder never prosper. I want you all to keep that saying in mind. Think about what it means and what it's deeper meaning is. And keep it in mind for our next class." He looked down at his watch on his hand. Yeah. That was enough.

"You lot are dismissed. No homework for this class but your final will be up on the noticeboard soon. Keep a look out." Nudge, nudge. By soon, he meant SOON. He wanted to give them time to work on it.
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