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You step through the door of the Charms classroom to find...
A winter wonderland.
Everything is ice-and-snow. There are ice ridges and little snow-capped hills and, in the centre, a large ice rink. The desks are arranged on this ice-rink in neat rows, with the Professor's desk set at the front. Given that the ice-rink is charmed for now, it shouldn't be hard to get to your desk. The moment you sit down, you notice that the weather isn't downright cold: it's cool and pleasant, but not bitter.
Professor Descoteaux is leaning against his desk, his posture graceful and just a little lazy.
"Does that mean I've been demoted?" Jared asked. Though, how do you demote a Little Professor? What's little-er than little?
He'd have to think about that one.
Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
The fourth year pressed her lips together in thought. "No...I don't think so..." Self-flattery was hardly a reason to be demoted, right? Besides, "You were never undemoted from last term, I don't think, anyway." And she didn't think he could get demoted twice. It didn't work like that.
"Wouldn't any kind of shield charm be...I guess a cross between defence, charms, and transfiguration? Because you're producing something out of nothingness, that's transfiguration. But the shield part is defence. And their called charms. Some of them." That took too much thought. "And that one...that it's a charm...but it changes how something looks..." Ellie didn't and wouldn't know the name of it.
And, she was pretty sure she filled her 'answers' quota for...the year, probably.
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Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Sierra eyed the professor in disbelief. Had he seriously just used nearly every big word he had in his vocabulary? She thought so. It took her a good few minutes to think back on what he'd said and realize he was asking them about similarities between Charms and Transfiguration.
Couldn't he have just worded it like that in the first place? Mehh...
"What about transfiguring, or charming," ...or whatever... "objects into stone?" she asked, her hand in the air. "It's a charm, because you're obviously changing how it looks and what it's capable of," she continued, "but you're also transfiguring the object into something else entirely when it turns to stone..."
She sort of trailed off on the last word. She was starting to confuse herself.
Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Ariella raised her hands again. "I can't think of any spells used as charms off the top of my head that could be used as transfigurational spells, no. Because transfiguration is the actual changing of one object to another, while charms is just changing various properties....or parts of an object." Come to think of it, she did have a question. "Could a charm be thought of as a hex as well? A hex is typically used to inflict discomfort or pain, but charms could do that, too, right?" That was a little off topic, but she couldn't help herself when she had a good question.
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Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Savannah beamed. Got that question right.
Moving on to the next one...
Ahhh....
"Not any that I can think of on the top of my head..." Savannah said, "What about that dissilusional charm that you taught us last year? I guess it could be in the boundary, it is kind of changing an object..." Savvy hesitated. No, that couldn't be it, its only blending the object to its surroundings.
William raised his hand. " One of the spells that could cross over between Charms and Transfiguration spells is called Protean Charm" Willaim told the professor. " The reason because it changes the apperance of the item" Willian said to the professor.
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Macy blinked. She opened her mouth to speak, and then closed it. She did it again. Open. Close. Merlin, she must look like a fish! Anywhoo... Whaaaat was the professor talking about? Spells and... charms... and just, throw transfiguration in there to throw her off some more, why don't you. EURGH. "I. Erm. Yes." was her answer. Honestly, the girl had absolutely no idea what he was talking about.
Ivory furrowed her eyebrows in concentration. She knew this one, but her mind seemed slow in forming the words. Trying to picture her textbook in her mind, she sat up a bit.
Tentatively, the Ravenclaw raised her hand her face in a funny expression that seemed to give off waves of question marks.
"I think perhaps the line blurs on spells like the Canary Transfiguration Hex which turns the target into a giant canary thus giving it properties, in this case a beak and feathers to say the least, that the target did not have before, instead of completely transfiguring him or her into an actual small canary."
So it was really both a charm and a form of transfiguration. A transfiguration charm? Was there such thing?
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Nika listened to his explanation of what a charm was and decided it would be a good time to take out some parchment and her quill. Notes are never fun, but might as well take a few so she doesn't turn green during the final this term too. She listened to the question and then some response from other students as she thought about her own answer. Well if the two subjects didn't blur then they wouldn't be talking about it now would they? "I guess maybe the two can be really similar." Maybe that's why Nika was awful at both subjects. "There are some charms that change an objects appearance right?" She asked slowly. Hmmm.... This is starting to get confusing.
Three points for each?! Mweh, if Evan had known, he would have answered it too, despite like a hundred answers that all said the same. Oh well. Onto the next question, then. Raising his hand, he said "I guess colour-changing charms and the animation charms are also transfiguration. I mean, they change, right?" Right. It was called transfugration when changing inanimate objects into animate ones; and then there were such charms like 'accio' to move the objects... "I guess, the boundary is unclear when they both change something... especially physical traits." Charms or transfiguration, he didn't really care what it was as long as he could do it.
‘How about the Vanishing Spell?’, the girl asked. Thinking about it, it wasn’t transfiguration, but not relley charms either. Or, maybe…was it transfiguration if the object disappears? ‘Or…eh…maybe Alohomora?’, the girl tryied again hoping at least this was right. ‘It makes doors open, so it doeas change something at them, right?’
‘But there is a spell… Episkey?’, Gwen asked, thinking it would be best if she would shut up already. ‘It is used to heal relatively minor injuries…so it does change something, but not the person entirely.’
Jared nodded. "Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Thank God Janet's previous answer was good enough. The next question's pretty tough, she thought. But she gave it a try. She raised her hand and answered, "Well, I think They are quite similar, but they are still diffrent. In Charms, they don't totaly change, only a small part of it. Like what you said, Professor, Giving it wings. For example, If we give a shoe wings, it will still be a shoe, but with wings. But in transfiguration, They change into things that don't even have connection between them. Like a rock into a dog, It doesn't have any connection at all. So, I guess spells studied as charms, couldn't be called transfigurational spells". Please be right, Please be right,Please be right !!, She hoped.
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Having finished writing her thoughts down, Kimalia felt she might have a unique way to describe it. "Well, with Transfiguration you're altering more than just the physical appearance but the internal structure as well, such as turning a cat into a mouse." Kimalia continued, "Charms have more to deal with enchantments, the spell Engorgio does alter the physical appearance making the object larger, but the similarity ends there once you realize it's still the same object, just larger."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
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Brielle stopped for a moment, a bit confused. She listened to the otehr students words and nodded her head in agreement. She somehow seemed confused if she was still supposed to answer, with all the talking going around. Clearing her throat, she spoke just loud enough to be heard, "I think so, professor. For there are spells in Charms that do change the physical appearance of the object, and wouldn't that be as close to Transfiguration as it can get? Like the engorgio and the such, "
Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
"I think there are some spells that are considered charms even though they conjure. Like Orchideus for flowers and Augmenti for water. Although I could be wrong about them being charms."
Presley raised her hand. "Charms wear off, Professor. When you transfigure something, it stay transfigured until you untransfigure it. Right?" She wasn't absolutely sure on this point, but from her experience, that had been a fundamental difference.
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Rachel put her hand up, "Well don't charms sort of go? If you transfigure something, it stays in the same from until it is turned back, I think." Rachel said, she wasnt sure at all, but felt she needed to say something.
Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Riley continued to look around the room for another minute or so, taking in the wintery-ness of it all. It was actually kind of pleasant to look at rather than a normal classroom setting. But the Professor began to speak again so the Gryffindor's attention snapped back to the front of the 'room'.
Taking notes of what he man said, Riley thought hard for a moment about the question that was asked next. After some thinking, the seventh year raised his hand. "Professor, an example of what you are saying would be the charm that changes water into rum or tea, or any other liquid really. Although the change may not be perminent it still transfigures the physical state of the water into another liquid." Lowering his hand Riley was abit amazed by the words that came out of his mouth. Now to hope that they were all forming a right answer.
Isabelle thinks about this question carefully. Ugh Gabii would know, she is an expert at charms. Chaneling her inner Gabii she thought for a couple of minutes.
Isabelle raises her hand. "Professor, to charm something is to make a change to something though not normally permenent. When you transfigure something it normally has a permenent effect. For the most part charms are non-permenent transfigurations." Ugh that did not sound right.
Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Ness had so far been pretty quite, but she thought she knew the answer to the next question so she put up her hand then when it was ger turn said. "Um.. Proffessor I think the difference is that in transfiguration makes the whole object something different including the way it moves, thinks, speaks and so on, where as with charms it only changes one thing of the object!" said Ness hoping that whatever she had just said was right, cause what she said seemed to confuse her just a bit.
"Professor isn't a charm a spell used to make something happen quickly and efficently? And when you transfigure something you are changing the subject completly?" Annabelle asked as she raised her hand.
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Jared nodded. "You've all said the same thing, more or less. Take three points each. Charms is that branch of magic which deals with spells that produce a superficial change in the object. This could mean altering how it looks, how it acts, and the things it is capable of - all on a superficial level. This could mean levitating the target, giving it wings, changing its size or colour and so on. Remember that a charm does not change the inherent nature of an object - that is transfiguration. Transforming an object into, or reverting an object to, one that has a different set of vital functions - like a cup into a mouse - and conjuring objects out of nothingness is all part of transfigurational magic."
"Keeping that in mind, do you think there are some spells studied as charms, that could be called transfigurational spells? Or where the boundaries between Charms and Transfiguration blur?"
Roderigo sat there in his seat in the back. He reflected as the other students raised their hands and gave their input on the Professor's question. Brows furrowing slightly, he pondered what else could linger on the fine line between Charms and Transfiguration. Some Gryffindor first-year boy had definitely got one, the Protean Charm. How did he know about those? Roderigo had been studying those just a few days ago, and he was a seventh-year. He shook his head. There had to be more, he thought. A girl farther ahead of him mentioned a hex. Roderigo recognized her as his house's Prefect. And, as if on cue, the light bulb clicked inside his head. His hand shot up into the air.
"Well, Professor," he said, "Another example could be the Bat-Bogey Hex, couldn't it? Enlarging your opponent's bogeys would definitely entail the use of a charm. But the fact that the bogeys grow wings and attack your opponent, well that would grant them physical attributes they did not possess before. Thus, it would have similarities to Transfiguration...although the bogeys remain bogeys...." his voice dwindled slightly as he came to the realization at the end. He lowered his hand, hoping his answer was at least somewhat correct.
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'There are charms that change certain aspects in the appearance of objects, such as size, shape or colour, so those could be borderline with Transfiguration, but not really Transfiguration, since objects are just altered and not completely transformed.' the first year Gryffindor replied after putting her hand up. Having done that, however, the girl realized that her answer was pretty much the same as her colleagues's. Oh well.
Nathaniel was scribbling notes as fast as he could listening to everyone else answering. *Wow why couldn't Brandon tell me more of this! Just the basics would be enough he said. AS IF!*, Nathaniel thought all of this to himself as he listened to everyone answering, not knowing many of the answers himself.
Molly scribbled down the last of the notes she'd made upon her Professor's words. She tapped her quill a bit against her chin, her eyes looking up to the cieling - which she found was full of beautifully glistening icicles - while thinking hard on an answer to her teacher's question. She then raised her hand a bit slowly and insecure. "I think that charms can only transform part of the object, like for example it's appearence or a special part of it's looks, and not the object completely because that's what Transfiguration does." Wishing eagerly that her answer was at least somewhere in the right direction she fell silent and waited with a nervous feeling in her stomach. She really wanted to perform good in Charms, since it was her favourite subject.