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The first floor was... certainly busier in a different way than Professor Schirmer's own usual haunt of the third level. Less injured children she supposed, and more Dash. She wondered if the professors of the first floor were more social as a result and made up her mind to befriend the healer. Third floor solidarity.
The classroom she'd chosen for the defense lesson had been one of her favourites as a student, and the tall blonde woman was a little bit dismayed to see how dusty and unused it was. Really, Hogwarts was it so hard to keep yourself clean? Even with elves that were off doing goodness knew what? A few quick charms and minutes later the room was sparkling.
Literally.
Unlike most of the Defense rooms, this one featured bright windows that allowed the light to stream in, diffused with colours and generally giving the room a bright and happy feel. The view looked out over the lake. There were no desks or chairs in the room and even the professor took a seat on the ground, waiting there with her feet tucked up comfortably beneath her for the students to arrive. She had a stack of books next to her and looked serene, if a bit distant.
When it was time, she charmed the doors to open, and greeted the students as they begin to file in.
ooc: the lesson will begin approximately 7.5 hours from the time of this post I'm simply opening it now so you can post arriving if you want to. The lesson has begun! Please act as if you were here all along if you haven't yet posted, latecomers will likely lose points. Please remember to follow Professor Schirmer's rules which can be found here.
SPOILER!!: the room looks something like this
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In addition the room is now decorated for a party. Balloons and streamers are everywhere, there are tables set up with food and drink, and music playing to add to the festive feel.
Questions: What do you know, or think you know, about the Patronus Charm?
Discuss amongst yourselves some famous witches and wizards and their known Patronus forms. Given what we know about them; their achievements, their experiences, what do you think their Patronus form indicates about their personalities?
For those of you who can cast a Corporeal Patronus and know what form it takes, see if you can match up how it fits your personality. Younger students, you can work with students who do have a known Spirit Guardian, or you can look up mine, which is a Dove, or Headmaster Tate's which is a Mountain Goat, or that of another adult you know, even some of the historical figures we were discussing.
"I want you to think of your happiest memory. Something strong enough that you can focus on it easily, maybe something that makes you smile. It doesn't have to be relating to love. If you have more than one, lucky you! You can experiment to see which is best. You don't have to share it if you don't want to, but feel free to put your hand up and share if you do.
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Levitation party activity! Click here for instructions. Read the post carefully and please take note of your classmates posts following this one too. Worth ten points!
edit: Activity still running, only please focus on the third part, AKA testing out your happy memory with a levitation potion.
The party is still going, you can help yourself to food or drink while we wait for a guest fetched via a patronus message. In the meantime the professor wants to know who can cast a patronus already and whether its corporeal or non-corporeal.
PLEASE be realistic with your character's abilities. The patronus charm is ADVANCED magic and little firsties should NOT be able to manage it. For the purposes of this class please pay attention to the following:
6th & 7th years: May be able to cast a corporeal or non-corporeal patronus, depending on character's skill level and experience. May learn how to do one or the other during the lesson.
5th years: May be able to cast non-corporeal patronus, depending on character's skill level and experience, very FEW and RARELY may a 5th year manage a corporeal patronus. May learn how to do one or the other during the lesson.
4th years: Depending on character's skill level and experience, very FEW and RARELY may a 4th year manage a non-corporeal patronus. May learn a non-corporeal patronus during the lesson.
3rd years: Depending on character's skill level and experience, may learn a non-corporeal patronus during the lesson. But its okay for them NOT to learn how yet too.
1st & 2nd years: Depending on character's skill level and experience, may learn an UNSTABLE non-corporeal patronus during the lesson. This means they might manage a slight whisp, but otherwise should NOT be able to cast a patronus. Its okay for them NOT to learn how yet too.
When we get to the spell casting aspect of the lesson, please note that anyone not being realistic may have their post edited or deleted, which I don't WANT to do but we're not all Harry Potter! For reference, Althea learned hers in 6th year non-corporeally, and managed a corporeal patronus in 7th year. Remember, just because your character might not be able to do it yet, it doesn't mean they never will!
As you saw, Professor Scabior came because I sent him a Patronus message. What do you think are the benefits of communicating via Patronus?
"Alright are you all ready to give it a go? Stand up if you are and make sure you give each other a bit of space. Wands out. The incantation is Expecto Patronum. Ecks-PEK-toh pa-TRO-num. You simply need to point your wand and focus really hard on that strong happy memory. Practice the incantation a few times to get the hang of it and then you may start. Those of you who can already manage it, please do encourage the younger ones and let them see how you do it. I have an activity for you too, that we'll start in a little while!"
Please note, I'm waiting to get an all clear regarding the recent Malware threat on SS before continuing, not because of any risk, rather because several people may be staying away right now and I'd rather be sure nobody is left at a disadvantage because they don't feel safe accessing the site. Expect that the lesson will continue on sunday. Everything is all clear Sorry for any trouble.
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"The Patronus Charm is a charm that evokes a partially-tangible, positive energy force known as a Patronus. Patronuses are also called spirit guardians, though this may only refer to corporeal Patronuses. It is primarily designed for defence against otherwise unbeatable Dark creatures like Dementors and Lethifolds, though there are other uses," Lilly confidently spoke. She, as a muggle-born wouldn't know much about them, but she'd read it in a book somewhere.
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Andros the Invicible... The name somehow sounds familiar to Aiden. Who was he again? She thinks for a short moment before addressing the housemate she hasn't seen for quite a while now. "Wasn't he the only known wizard to able to produce the Patronus Charm wandlessly?"she says with an impressed look showed on her face. Giant and wandless Patronus Charm must be impossible to others in logic sense. Even if it is tried by great wizards in history such as Albus Dumbledore, Harry Potter and even Voldemort (if he is capable of producing the charm).
In response to Professor Schirmer's question.
"Love," she says simply. "Love can influence one's Patronus. Take the example of Nymphadora Lupin, an auror in 1990's and one of our former headmaster himself, Severus Snape. The auror was deeply in love with werewolf Remus Lupin that caused her Patronus to shift to one. And Professor Snape's Patronus which was a doe was influenced by his long, undying love for Lily Potter," Aiden elaborates with quite much admiration in her voice.
Mordred looked on his left and saw a familiar face. “Aiden.” He smiled. “Yep. The only wizard to produce a giant patronus wandless.” he said nodding. “I wonder what inspired Andros to produce such spirit guardian. I’m beginning to think that he’s sort of a show-off.” Mordred scratched the side of his nose as he spoke. “I suppose, producing a patronus doesn’t just depend on your memory. I think it has something to do with your personality as well.” Mordred wasn’t a fan of HoM, so he really isn’t sure about Andros...and what he was like when he was still alive.
He listened to Aiden as she addressed the professor. “What about the people who hasn’t experienced love?” Mordred asked Aiden. “I’m pretty sure it isn’t just based on emotions...or memory.” Mordred winced at the idea of not having any emotion...or memory. “It could be the caster’s personality, emotions, both or either of the two that will dictate the form of his patronus.” That wouldn’t be fair if the caster did not have at least any of those. All wizards and witches should and must have one.
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No freaking way. Were they doing Patronuses? Really? No way. She raised her hand lazily. 'You need to have a hapy memoryy.' Rose stated. How the hell were she and lilly meant to have one of those!? They were going through hell! Maybe it was a good thing Violet wasn't there...
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"Unable and unwilling." She agreed with a smile. "That's a good way to put it."
"So a Patronus Charm is a difficult charm which requires a strong happy memory and dedicated focus in order to cast it. That sounds easier than it is and even for those of you who might manage it in a safe and comfortable classroom, its less simple when faced with the true fear a Dementor inspires." Althea spoke to the children at large.
"It can be used to fend off Dementors and Lethifolds, and also to communicate and pass messages on, as much of your will needs to be infused into its creation." Just reiterating things.
"A Patronus may be substantial or insubstantial.... known as corporeal or incorporeal. Most of you will not manage an corporeal Patronus, at least not until you are older, but that is no reason not to learn about it now." Right?
"The corporeal Patronus takes an animal form, relating to the personality and traits of its caster. You can refer to your textbooks for this next question. I'd like for you to discuss amongst yourselves some famous witches and wizards and their known Patronus forms. Given what we know about them; their achievements, their experiences, what do you think their Patronus form indicates about their personalities?"
Katrina raised her hand.
"Minerva McGonagall's patronus was a cat," The First year said. "She was a smart woman, and cats are quite smart. She's also... sneaky. Cats are sneaky too. And Minerva McGonagall's Animagus form was also a cat."
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He listened to Aiden as he addressed the professor. “What about the people who hasn’t experienced love?” Mordred asked Aiden. “I’m pretty sure it isn’t just based on emotions...or memory.” Mordred winced at the idea of not having any emotion...or memory. “It could be the caster’s personality, emotions, both or either of the two that will dictate the form of his patronus.” That wouldn’t be fair if the caster did not have at least any of those. All wizards and witches should and must have one.
"I don't think it has to be just a loving memory that you need to have to cast a patronus." Indiana mused with a smile. Because some people didn't have that, and she was sure that some experiences of love just wouldn't be strong enough to produce a patronus. Indy loved her brother Spike, but she was pretty sure that alone wouldn't produce a patronus. "I think it just has to be a strong, happy emotion....and most of us have probably experienced that." She nodded with a smile. Hopefully anyway.
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Mordred looked on his left and saw a familiar face. “Aiden.” He smiled. “Yep. The only wizard to produce a giant patronus wandless.” he said nodding. “I wonder what inspired Andros to produce such spirit guardian. I’m beginning to think that he’s sort of a show-off.” Mordred scratched the side of his nose as he spoke. “I suppose, producing a patronus doesn’t just depend on your memory. I think it has something to do with your personality as well.” Mordred wasn’t a fan of HoM, so he really isn’t sure about Andros...and what he was like when he was still alive.
He listened to Aiden as he addressed the professor. “What about the people who hasn’t experienced love?” Mordred asked Aiden. “I’m pretty sure it isn’t just based on emotions...or memory.” Mordred winced at the idea of not having any emotion...or memory. “It could be the caster’s personality, emotions, both or either of the two that will dictate the form of his patronus.” That wouldn’t be fair if the caster did not have at least any of those. All wizards and witches should and must have one.
Listening to Mordred's opinion on Andros, Aiden starts to chuckle. Maybe he was a sort of a show-off. Or did he just had too many good memories? While listening to the boy's explanation, Aiden thinks of another answer herself.
"I don't think just emotion and personality could influence one's Patronus," she shrugs her head in disagreement. "It depends on the caster's concentration and mental state as well," answers Aiden confidently with a smirk twitched at the corner of her lips. "It is one of the hardest charms to produce, after all," pauses the Slytherin before proceeding. "From what I've read, the Patronus Charm could only be produced by thinking of a very happy and powerful memory. A good memory. Because the Patronus Charm is meant to repel dark creatures. And since it is meant to repel darkness, very rare wizards and witches who practice the Dark Arts are able to produce it. With the exceptions of those whose memories are more powerful than their practice of the Dark Arts; as I said before, love," she stops, raising her eyebrows, thinking that she might've spoken like a know-it-all.
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This whole Patronus thing is just amazing. Sarah listened earnestly as some of the older students answered the questions. So the personality can be told from their Patronus? Is it? But what about some others?
Sarah raised her hand. "Professor, what about the animals that don't have a defined behaviour? Then how can we relate them to the person's character?" she paused. Did that make sense? "I mean-" she said, "-I heard Mr.Harry Potter's patronus was a stag because his father's animagus form was one" Did that make any impact? She blinked. Did anyone understand her question at all?
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This was so interesting. Minerva was excited to be learning about this. She didn't know anything about this except for what her mom told her before she came to school. "So what characteristics go with what animals for a person to know what theirs would be?"
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She never liked dueling. She preferred flying. But this was an important subject that's why she was here. Facing their DADA Professor and listening to those students who were talking, other debating about Patronus Charms.
Beezus knew of course what kind of Charm it was yet she was not very interested that was why she just chose to lend her ears to the crowd who were all busy with their discussions.
Violet had been sitting on the ground listening to the answers (some people were being kind of greedy and naming 2 or 3 wizards at a time, and not leaving any left for the rest of them!). Pictures of different animals raced through her head as they were mentioned. Suddenly she remembered something and raised her hand. "Professor Dumbledore's brother, Aberforth--he had a goat Patronus, I believe." Actually, she was sure of it, but didn't want to sound too arrogant--she had remembered that one because she herself was very fond of goats. "Isn't he supposed to have raised goats or something? I guess he really like them and they made him feel happy and safe, or maybe they reminded him of a time in his childhood when his family was all together and he was happy, and that's why he had one for a Patronus."
Maxwell raised his hand. "Severus Snape's was a doe because of his love for Lilly Potter, I'm not sure if that was always his Patronus or if it changed because of the one he loved like Nymphadora Tonks for Remus Lupin." Maxwell felt slightly nervous, were they going to actually try Patronus Charms? He was overly curious to see what his was and what it said about his personality.
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When Alyssa entered the room, she was amazed at how different it was. There were no chairs and tables, the light was shining through the glass stained windows and...she stopped in her tracks....the Professor was sitting on the floor!! "Okay, this is definitely starting to look interesting already,"Alyssa thought to herself. She quickly walked over to the Professor and greeted her. "Good day, Professor Schirmer, this room is beautiful," Alyssa told the professor. Before walking away to join the other students. She spotted her partner-in-crime, Penny sitting on the floor beneath a window, walked over to her and sat down. "Hey girl, mind if I join you?" Alyssa whispered to her friend.
Penny smiled as Alyssa walked over to her and sat down beside her.."of course I don't mind chick", Penny giggled..
The room was beautiful. As in VERY beautiful. The glass-stained windows printed the floor in different colours, right on top of Alyssa and Penny. Janice walked towards them.
"Hello, can I sit here?" she asked.
Penny smiled again when she saw Janice approach herself and Alyssa..."of course you can sit Janice", smiling warmly at her dorm-mate.
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Alyssa turned to Penny and asked,"Want to discuss this next part with me, Penny? I know of Harry Potter's patronus was a stag, Hermione Granger's was an otter, Professor Severus Snape's was a doe and Professor Albus Dumbledore's was a Phoenix. But I can't remember about the others".
Penny had put her hand in the air.."Professor, a Patronus is an energy force which work like a shield against Dementors - they are called 'Spirit Guardians' too", lowering her hand again..
Looking at Alyssa, Penny was thinking about other famous Patronuses... "Lets make a list Lyssie"
SPOILER!!: List of Patronuses
Harry Potter - Stag..... Only known survivor of the Killing Curse, Defeated the Dark Lord.
Ron Weasley - Jack Russell...Helped destroy Dark Lords Horcruxes
Ginny Potter nee Weasley - Horse.... Married Harry Potter, fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Severus Snape - Doe... Potions master and Headmaster of Hogwarts
Albus Dumbledore - Phoenix... Headmaster of Hogwarts, defeated Grindlewald - died June 1997.
Minerva McGonigle - Cat.. Transfiguration Mistress, Fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Arthur Weasley - Weasel... Father of Ron and Ginny, Member of Order of the Phoenix.
Kinglsey Shacklebolt - Lynx... Temporary Minister for Magic, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror.
Nymphadora Lupin nee Tonks - Werewolf ... Metamorphmagus, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror. (d 1998)
Then Penny realised she had a question....Professor, So going by other responses, a person has a Patronus based on their Character.... It is well noted that Nymphadoa Tonks already had a Patronus but it changed to a werewolf when she fell in love with the Werewolf Remus Lupin - How did that happen?"
No one had mentioned the Weasley patronuses yet? Jesifur thought about the different ones in that family. Ron's had been a jack Russel terrier, a playful and loyal dog. Which seemed fitting for him, being he was a loyal friend and had a playful attitude more often than not. Ginny's had been a horse. A noble gentle creature, just like her.
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"I don't think it has to be just a loving memory that you need to have to cast a patronus." Indiana mused with a smile. Because some people didn't have that, and she was sure that some experiences of love just wouldn't be strong enough to produce a patronus. Indy loved her brother Spike, but she was pretty sure that alone wouldn't produce a patronus. "I think it just has to be a strong, happy emotion....and most of us have probably experienced that." She nodded with a smile. Hopefully anyway.
Mordred turned his attention to another student. “Yes. Not just a happy one, but a memory that had a big impact on us. Maybe, something or someone that has changed us forever…” Mordred trailed off as his mind wandered to someone he holds dear up until now. He mentally shook the thought off his head. This is not the time to reminisce…or get all sentimental.
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Listening to Mordred's opinion on Andros, Aiden starts to chuckle. Maybe he was a sort of a show-off. Or did he just had too many good memories? While listening to the boy's explanation, Aiden thinks of another answer herself.
"I don't think just emotion and personality could influence one's Patronus," she shrugs her head in disagreement. "It depends on the caster's concentration and mental state as well," answers Aiden confidently with a smirk twitched at the corner of her lips. "It is one of the hardest charms to produce, after all," pauses the Slytherin before proceeding. "From what I've read, the Patronus Charm could only be produced by thinking of a very happy and powerful memory. A good memory. Because the Patronus Charm is meant to repel dark creatures. And since it is meant to repel darkness, very rare wizards and witches who practice the Dark Arts are able to produce it. With the exceptions of those whose memories are more powerful than their practice of the Dark Arts; as I said before, love," she stops, raising her eyebrows, thinking that she might've spoken like a know-it-all.
“Professor Severus Snape.” He nodded in agreement. “Add to that, the caster must have confidence.” He said as he placed his book on the floor. “One must have it to overcome the dark elements. If a caster is self-assured with his capabilities, then he’ll be able to defeat his enemy.” He paused. “Besides, fear feeds the dark elements.” The boy addressed to the group. “That brings us back to Andros.” He smirked. “Yep! He’s got so much confidence, that he’s such a show-off and was able to produce a giant spirit guardian…”he said shaking his head still in disbelief. “A patronus that big…”he trailed off. Guess, Andros had a big head too.
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“Professor Severus Snape.” He nodded in agreement. “Add to that, the caster must have confidence.” He said as he placed his book on the floor. “One must have it to overcome the dark elements. If a caster is self-assured with his capabilities, then he’ll be able to defeat his enemy.” He paused. “Besides, fear feeds the dark elements.” The boy addressed to the group. “That brings us back to Andros.” He smirked. “Yep! He’s got so much confidence, that he’s such a show-off and was able to produce a giant spirit guardian…”he said shaking his head still in disbelief. “A patronus that big…”he trailed off. Guess, Andros had a big head too.
"Confidence... Get a hold of yourselves..." she nods in agreement. It was logical to be confident while fighting against something fearful. Even a thick bloke should know that. "Dementors are described to as 'fear', isn't it? That means the casters of the Patronus Charm must be ready to face fear itself." Honestly, Aiden is running out of ideas. Nevertheless, a question strikes through her mind suddenly like a lightning bolt. "Professor Schirmer, ma'am," she calls out with her hand straight in the air. "If you don't mind me asking, what does your Patronus takes form of?" she asks boldly not realising what she is doing.
Penny smiled as Alyssa walked over to her and sat down beside her.."of course I don't mind chick", Penny giggled..
Penny smiled again when she saw Janice approach herself and Alyssa..."of course you can sit Janice", smiling warmly at her dorm-mate.
Penny had put her hand in the air.."Professor, a Patronus is an energy force which work like a shield against Dementors - they are called 'Spirit Guardians' too", lowering her hand again..
Looking at Alyssa, Penny was thinking about other famous Patronuses... "Lets make a list Lyssie"
SPOILER!!: List of Patronuses
Harry Potter - Stag..... Only known survivor of the Killing Curse, Defeated the Dark Lord.
Ron Weasley - Jack Russell...Helped destroy Dark Lords Horcruxes
Ginny Potter nee Weasley - Horse.... Married Harry Potter, fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Severus Snape - Doe... Potions master and Headmaster of Hogwarts
Albus Dumbledore - Phoenix... Headmaster of Hogwarts, defeated Grindlewald - died June 1997.
Minerva McGonigle - Cat.. Transfiguration Mistress, Fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Arthur Weasley - Weasel... Father of Ron and Ginny, Member of Order of the Phoenix.
Kinglsey Shacklebolt - Lynx... Temporary Minister for Magic, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror.
Nymphadora Lupin nee Tonks - Werewolf ... Metamorphmagus, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror. (d 1998)
Then Penny realised she had a question....Professor, So going by other responses, a person has a Patronus based on their Character.... It is well noted that Nymphadoa Tonks already had a Patronus but it changed to a werewolf when she fell in love with the Werewolf Remus Lupin - How did that happen?"
Listening to waht Trish had said about Tonk's patronus changing. "Could it be that before she met and fell in love with Lupin she didn't feel the connection to the wolf - or the primal animal the 'beast' inside all of us?" She asked interjecting her thoughts into the discussion.
"Is it possible that because people can change - evolve so can their patronus. I mean, maybe for example with Tonks her patronus could have pre-Summer of 1995 been non-corporeal" she offered because after all if someone found themselves their patronus would come right after. Right?
SPOILER!!: List of Patronuses
Harry Potter - Stag..... Only known survivor of the Killing Curse, Defeated the Dark Lord.
Ron Weasley - Jack Russell...Helped destroy Dark Lords Horcruxes
Ginny Potter nee Weasley - Horse.... Married Harry Potter, fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Severus Snape - Doe... Potions master and Headmaster of Hogwarts
Albus Dumbledore - Phoenix... Headmaster of Hogwarts, defeated Grindlewald - died June 1997.
Minerva McGonigle - Cat.. Transfiguration Mistress, Fought in the 2nd Wizarding War.
Arthur Weasley - Weasel... Father of Ron and Ginny, Member of Order of the Phoenix.
Kinglsey Shacklebolt - Lynx... Temporary Minister for Magic, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror.
Nymphadora Lupin nee Tonks - Werewolf ... Metamorphmagus, Member of Order of the Phoenix, Auror. (d 1998)
Albus Dumbledore - Phoenix...member of wizengamot, founding member of the order of the phoenix. (d June 30th, 1997)
"I think another person we should ad to the list of Patronus' is that of former headmaster of Hogwarts Albus Dumbledore" she quickly added him to her own list. "I mean his form was a very regal patronus form - that of a Phoenix"
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Indiana had kind of been listening to what some of her fellow students were saying, and taking in what they were saying. But she did have a comment to make about something, relating to Lord Voldemort. She raised her hand, did she even have to do that, before turning to Stella, and that Gryffindor Prefect, who seemed to be pretty clever. "I read somewhere..." Man she sounded so much like a nerd with all this reading. "That Severus Snape as the only Death Eater, or that wy inclined person, that could produce a patronus. So Maybe Lord Voldermort couldn't produce one at all? Maybe his personality was just too evil." And if he controlled the dementors surely they weren't about to go all bad on him right?
Elise was a little lost between the debate surrounding the older students but when a fellow first year spoke up, she finally understood what was going on.
"His patronus was a doe, wasn't it?" she asked the girl. "Besides, Death Eaters wouldn't have any use for a patronus, would they? With all the dark creatures on their side?"
Elise was a little lost between the debate surrounding the older students but when a fellow first year spoke up, she finally understood what was going on.
"His patronus was a doe, wasn't it?" she asked the girl. "Besides, Death Eaters wouldn't have any use for a patronus, would they? With all the dark creatures on their side?"
"Well Dementors don't differentiate do they? They take the happiness away from everyone. I believe the only way they don't need one is if the person had no happiness - no zest for life...maybe like Voldemort himself. But if he had one it would have been a snake." C'mon obvious much? With that GIANT snake he always walked around with.
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"Well Dementors don't differentiate do they? They take the happiness away from everyone. I believe the only way they don't need one is if the person had no happiness - no zest for life...maybe like Voldemort himself. But if he had one it would have been a snake." C'mon obvious much? With that GIANT snake he always walked around with.
Elise nodded. "True." she said. "Definitely a snake. If he actually had anything left in him, though..."
"What else do you think would effect a patronus, other than love?"
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A fellow Slytherin sat beside him and almost hit his face when he raised his hand to answer the professor’s question. He listened to him and their professor’s exchange of words.
Mordred nodded his head and got his DADA book. “What do you think your Patronus would be?” he asked the boy. He himself cannot wait to find out his own spirit guardian. He opened his book and quickly read about the different patronuses of noted wizards and witches. “I remember getting Andros the Invincible’s Chocolate Frog Card, and it says there that he is the only wizard to cast a GIANT patronus. How cool is that?” he smiled at the boy and continued to read. "He must be very powerful to come up with a patronus like that. He must be overflowing with magic."
Daichi hadn't even realised he had almost hit someone in the face when his hand had shot up. And after his Ron Weasley answer he quietly sat and listened how the others were debating. Until a voice next to him made him turn around. "I don't know" he answered honestly. "And i don't think i'll find out this soon." he was only a second year. It took his older brother years before he really mastered the spell.
Listening as the boy around his age told about a GIANT patronus, Daichi couldn't help but visualize him conjuring the patronus...that would be so cool!
The second year looked around from the floor again and sighed deeply in boredom. He never liked these kind of debates. Yes, he loved to learn all kinds of things but these disscusions were just not his thing. It made his eyelids flutter shut a few times and he even had to rub them a few times.
They were going so sloooow and no one ever seemed to agree with one another. Only on a few things. He really had the tendency to lean back and close his eyes from this boring talk. But he didn't because he knew points would be taken so instead he pretended to be interested and nodded absentmindely whenever someone said something.
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SPOILER!!: Kurumi
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Kurumi shrugged her shoulders. She was no expert on producing a Patronus and would be lucky if her attempts produced even simple white smoke most likely. She didn't really have a strong happy memory to rely on to perform the magic. "Most people didn't believe whatever Snape said, at least according to documents, so I doubt that Harry believed a word he said." It wasn't until later that Harry knew the truth, right? She thought she had read that somewhere. "There have been cases of people being able to produce a strong Patronus by simply looking at a picture." Maybe that was the reason they were also focusing on photographs in Potions? Merlin, were classes overlapping again in theme? Last time that had happened was when the entire school went non-magical crazy and she had nearly lost it. "Seeing a family photo including himself could have done it. Seeing how happy he was. As for why the stag, maybe Harry's inner self just resonated much more with his father, or who he thought his father was." Then again, it could all have been pure coincidence.
She leaned back in her seat a bit, stuck on the whole part about needing a memory to produce an animal form Patronus. What shape would hers take? She had no clue what her father's was...but she ought to write him and ask what memory he chose.
"Memories and how they resonate within a person..." hmmm...it made sense to her, but it was all just a theory. One had to have a happy memory in order to produce it. Could it be not so much on the memory itself, but how happiness manifested itself within a person? She was beginning to get a headache from all this. "Happiness and how it resonate within a person...wonder if Voldermort would have even been capable of producing one. If happy memories and happiness itself has no resonance within you, doesn't seem like you would be able to..."
She wasn't really talking to Alyssa only now, more so towards the general audience and whoever was listening.
Alyssa thought over what Kurumi had said which made a lot of sense. Then she heard Kurumi mention Voldemort and listened carefully. Even thoug the other students had moved on from Kurumi's comments to other discussions, Alyssa had to add on to what Kurumi had said. "Kurumi, I've wondered about that myself. Would Voldemort even have a Patronus considering that he most likely didn't have any happy moments that he could remember being such a cruel man. But at the same time, I think that we are all thinking that happiness invokes the same kind of happy feelings we all are used to. Voldemort could have had happy thoughts. Only his could have been twisted ones. like for example he must have felt happiness when he found out that Dumbledore had been killed. So it could be possible that even though his kind of happiness is different than we what we think happiness is defined as, he could have produced a Patronus. We just don't know what it is because he never had to produce one to fight off the Dementors or to send messages. He had the Dark Mark to do it and the Dementors were under his control." Alyssa hoped that she made sense.
SPOILER!!: Katrina
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Katrina raised her hand.
"Minerva McGonagall's patronus was a cat," The First year said. "She was a smart woman, and cats are quite smart. She's also... sneaky. Cats are sneaky too. And Minerva McGonagall's Animagus form was also a cat."
"Now that was an interesting thing to bring up," Alyssa thought to herself and decided to add to what Katrina had said. "Dolores Umbridge's patronus was also a cat. But we all know that both McGonagall's and Umbridge's personalities were different. Sure they may have both been smart and cunning but Umbridge was also cruel and sadistic. Shouldn't her patronus have been more of a tiger than a gentle harmless cat? So is it because she loved cats that her Patronus was one. So here again, there's this question again of whether a person's patronus is created from ones personality or from one's passion and likes."
SPOILER!!: Trish
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Then Penny realised she had a question....Professor, So going by other responses, a person has a Patronus based on their Character.... It is well noted that Nymphadoa Tonks already had a Patronus but it changed to a werewolf when she fell in love with the Werewolf Remus Lupin - How did that happen?"
Alyssa smiled when she heard Penny raise that question. That was also something that she had thought greatly about. "Penny is right, it was reported that Tonks' patronus had changed to a wolf when she fell in love with Lupin. Snape's also possibly changed to a doe because he was in love with Lily Potter. But Ron Weasley loved Hermione Granger and his never changed and neither did Harry even though he was in love with Ginny. Does that change have to be born out of intense love, sadness and rejection at the same time for a person's patronus to change?"
"The corporeal Patronus takes an animal form, relating to the personality and traits of its caster. You can refer to your textbooks for this next question. I'd like for you to discuss amongst yourselves some famous witches and wizards and their known Patronus forms. Given what we know about them; their achievements, their experiences, what do you think their Patronus form indicates about their personalities?"
Isn't the issue of Patronuses the best? It was one of Louisa's best charms and yes her former crush was the main reason. It was his successful attempt at it that made her fly in a tight hug. So yea, she LOVED talking about Patronuses and Dal's successful attempt at it.
If only she could give an example of him as a known person! :3
"Didn't Snape's Patronus change over the years, too?" Wasn't his name Snape? Louisa had better matters to think of, like her fifteenth birthday and all.
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"So a Patronus Charm is a difficult charm which requires a strong happy memory and dedicated focus in order to cast it. That sounds easier than it is and even for those of you who might manage it in a safe and comfortable classroom, its less simple when faced with the true fear a Dementor inspires." Althea spoke to the children at large.
"It can be used to fend off Dementors and Lethifolds, and also to communicate and pass messages on, as much of your will needs to be infused into its creation." Just reiterating things.
"A Patronus may be substantial or insubstantial.... known as corporeal or incorporeal. Most of you will not manage an corporeal Patronus, at least not until you are older, but that is no reason not to learn about it now." Right?
"The corporeal Patronus takes an animal form, relating to the personality and traits of its caster. You can refer to your textbooks for this next question. I'd like for you to discuss amongst yourselves some famous witches and wizards and their known Patronus forms. Given what we know about them; their achievements, their experiences, what do you think their Patronus form indicates about their personalities?"
Jez was just about bouncing out of her seat in excitement. They were going to learn to do a Patronus! She remembered her older brother Keegan showing her his Patronus once - a beautiful silver parrot, perfectly suited to her brother's nature. She wondered what form her Patronus would take - maybe a hippogriff? It was her favourite animal, after all. Jez quickly scribbled down all the things Professor Schrimer had said, and then added her answer to the question. She noticed that nearly everyone else was doing the really obvious people, like Harry Potter and Hermione Weasley, so she decided to focus on other people.
[INDENT]"So a Patronus Charm is a difficult charm which requires a strong happy memory and dedicated focus in order to cast it. That sounds easier than it is and even for those of you who might manage it in a safe and comfortable classroom, its less simple when faced with the true fear a Dementor inspires." Althea spoke to the children at large.
"It can be used to fend off Dementors and Lethifolds, and also to communicate and pass messages on, as much of your will needs to be infused into its creation." Just reiterating things.
"A Patronus may be substantial or insubstantial.... known as corporeal or incorporeal. Most of you will not manage an corporeal Patronus, at least not until you are older, but that is no reason not to learn about it now." Right?
"The corporeal Patronus takes an animal form, relating to the personality and traits of its caster. You can refer to your textbooks for this next question. I'd like for you to discuss amongst yourselves some famous witches and wizards and their known Patronus forms. Given what we know about them; their achievements, their experiences, what do you think their Patronus form indicates about their personalities?"
Nessie opened up her textbook and started looking through it. She found one on Albus Dumbledore and quickly scanned it before looking up and answering.
"Albus Dumbledore's corporeal Patronus was a Phoenix. We know that he was inspirational and a close friend to the famous Harry Potter. With phoenix's the are hard to tame but when they are domesticated they are completly loyal. This says that although him may have violent tendencies he is loyal to those he trusts." She smiled softly and sat back in her chair. She began to wonder what her Patronus would be.
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"Now that was an interesting thing to bring up," Alyssa thought to herself and decided to add to what Katrina had said. "Dolores Umbridge's patronus was also a cat. But we all know that both McGonagall's and Umbridge's personalities were different. Sure they may have both been smart and cunning but Umbridge was also cruel and sadistic. Shouldn't her patronus have been more of a tiger than a gentle harmless cat? So is it because she loved cats that her Patronus was one. So here again, there's this question again of whether a person's patronus is created from ones personality or from one's passion and likes."
Was this Huffie intimidating her or something? Hmmmp... but she was right. Umbridge's patronus was also a cat. She's smart but too cruel to actually use it. She's also fond of cats too. Yeah, maybe the likes also influence in the form of your Patronus.
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