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Once again, you've been asked to leave your textbooks back in your dorms, make sure you have your wands and to dress in comfortable (to a point, no one needs to see your pajamas or, Merlin forbid, your undergarments!) clothing. But instead of taking place in the dueling arena, today's Defense Against the Dark Arts seminar is taking place in your regular classroom.

As you enter, there's no obvious indication of what this seminar is going to be about. In fact, the only thing different about the classroom is the man settled up against the teacher's desk at the front giving you a welcoming smile as you enter and then returning his attention to the translucent animal he seems to be playing with. This man is your guest lecturer, auror and former Gryffindor Head Boy Ronan Carter. And the translucent creature? Well, all will be revealed in good time. Until then, have a seat and puzzle over the mystery. Or maybe you've figured it out already, in which case Ronan asks that you don't spoil it for your classmates.

Also, make sure you fill out the name tag conveniently placed on your desk so that Ronan doesn't have to point and say 'Hey you!' for the whole class. He does enough of that on the job.

OOC: Hey! Welcome to your second Defense Against the Dark Arts seminar this term. Ronan has an exciting lesson planned for you, so don't let his auror-ness or vagueness intimidate you! You'll find out the topic soon enough……

Seminar will start approximately 24 hours from the time of this post.


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Jude headed into the classroom since today’s seminar wasn’t in the Arena. Truthfully, he ALMOST headed to the Arena but he caught himself in time. Today’s seminar just might be a rather interesting one. Were they - the students - going to be focusing on the Patronus Charm? How thrilling that would be! Jude hoped Batman this man smiling in his direction was not just showing off the Patronus just to burst the bubbly hope that would no doubt be in many other students' hearts.

“Hi!” The Hufflepuff grinned broadly. It was a grin for both the man and Patronus. Jude, for the record, could hardly take his gaze away from the ‘animal’ and eventually had to force himself to do so. Like REALLY force himself. He went off to take a seat somewhere in the middle of the room where he set about filling out the nametag.

An important thing he was wondering was what form his own Patronus would take.
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There had been a moment where Cailyn had entertained the idea of studying for OWLs instead of attending the DADA seminar, but she’d resisted. It wasn’t exactly her best subject, after all, and besides, the seminars had so far been interesting. For not being exactly required. The Hufflepuff had made sure to pull her hair back before heading to the classroom, just in case. Just in case seemed to be more of a strong advisement with the subject as it was. Especially when her curls felt like they wanted to catch on anything nearby. The brief moment when she’d tried straightening them was looking more like something she might seriously consider.

Either way, she was actively trying to stay aware as she’d walked into the classroom, giving Jude a smile before finding a seat and properly applying her attention to the guest professor. “Hello,” she replied simply, eyes almost more focused on the translucent meerkat than they were on the man controlling it. Her guess was that they’d be discussing Patronuses, but she limited herself to just noting it down in her head while she filled out her nametag rather than voicing the thought. Especially since she was rather certain the man worked for the Ministry, and not in a paper pusher kind of way.
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Ash walked into the DADA seminar and like... immediately wanted to walk out. Not a patronus. She hoped the lesson thing was on literally anything else. But then why would the instructor have a patronus casted right now? It was probably going to be about patronus charms. It felt like everybody could cast a patronus. Everybody but her, APPARENTLY. She held out hope that she wouldn't have to try(and fail!) at casting one for the five hundredth time. She was the worst. She couldn't do anything right(untrue- she was good at a bunch of things).

She wrote 'ASH' in large letters on the nametag. Her name was short, so she had a lot of space to write it. Ash sat down as far away as possible from literally everybody else(it wasn't personal) and nodded towards the dude in charge or whatever. "Hey." He had a nice smile, did he know?
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Cooper was not taking Defense Against the Dark Arts at the NEWT level, so his purpose for attending this particular seminar was more in the spirit of curiosity. Curiosity and a bit of a palate cleanser from all the NEWT studying and other obligations that game with being a seventh year. Sometimes it was nice to do something just to do it and not have a fundamental reason attached to it, something he had slowly grown to understand and appreciate over the last couple of terms. He was hoping for something active, something to get the heart pumping and subconscious stressors out.

Stepping into the classroom, the Ravenclaw smiled on reflex towards the instructor of the day ... though slowly retracted it upon seeing the man's somewhat rugged and stern, perhaps even a bit aloof, presence. Emotions that may have been more projections than reality, because his eyes were mostly fixated on the silvery meerkat scampering about. Impossible to ignore the way his stomach knotted, Cooper moved to find himself a seat. "Good day, sir," he greeted, tearing his eyes away from the patronus and slipping into his seat properly. Quill out, he wrote his name on the tag provided and leaned back in his seat a little.



He then found himself hoping that the silvery meerkat was just for show and not that today's seminar would be a focus on the Patrnous Charm. Cooper had long given up on his potential to produce such powerful magic, and he easily recalled a conversation with Darren about this. Plenty of people would say that you could do anything if you put your mind to it...that the only limits are those that you impose upon yourself... but that was not entirely practical or realistic or fair. He had no jealousy, only admiration, in that as a seventh year he could still only just barely manage a wisp at best while others a full corporeal patronus. Each person had their own gifts and talents, that was what made life special.

But, he was also getting entirely too ahead of himself here and it was best to not be too presumptuous. Instead he occupied himself in watching the meerkat with a soft smile on his face. It was quite cute.
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Jude headed into the classroom since today’s seminar wasn’t in the Arena. Truthfully, he ALMOST headed to the Arena but he caught himself in time. Today’s seminar just might be a rather interesting one. Were they - the students - going to be focusing on the Patronus Charm? How thrilling that would be! Jude hoped Batman this man smiling in his direction was not just showing off the Patronus just to burst the bubbly hope that would no doubt be in many other students' hearts.

“Hi!” The Hufflepuff grinned broadly. It was a grin for both the man and Patronus. Jude, for the record, could hardly take his gaze away from the ‘animal’ and eventually had to force himself to do so. Like REALLY force himself. He went off to take a seat somewhere in the middle of the room where he set about filling out the nametag.

An important thing he was wondering was what form his own Patronus would take.
It was a good thing the Hufflepuff hadn’t gone to the arena. Though, in all truth, that might’ve been a better place for this lesson. But then, everyone needed to be as comfortable as possible for this seminar and it had been his worry that the arena might be intimidating to some.

Ronan returned Jude’s ‘Hi’ with a ”Hi!” of his own. He noticed the student’s eyes on Timon (his secret nickname for the translucent animal) and watched as the meerkat returned the gaze with one of its own.


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There had been a moment where Cailyn had entertained the idea of studying for OWLs instead of attending the DADA seminar, but she’d resisted. It wasn’t exactly her best subject, after all, and besides, the seminars had so far been interesting. For not being exactly required. The Hufflepuff had made sure to pull her hair back before heading to the classroom, just in case. Just in case seemed to be more of a strong advisement with the subject as it was. Especially when her curls felt like they wanted to catch on anything nearby. The brief moment when she’d tried straightening them was looking more like something she might seriously consider.

Either way, she was actively trying to stay aware as she’d walked into the classroom, giving Jude a smile before finding a seat and properly applying her attention to the guest professor. “Hello,” she replied simply, eyes almost more focused on the translucent meerkat than they were on the man controlling it. Her guess was that they’d be discussing Patronuses, but she limited herself to just noting it down in her head while she filled out her nametag rather than voicing the thought. Especially since she was rather certain the man worked for the Ministry, and not in a paper pusher kind of way.
There was more paperwork involved in being an auror than one might think. Though, it wasn’t most of them’s favorite part of the job. Just a side effect of arresting the bad guys.

Ronan returned the student’s greeting with one of his own, while the meerkat returned her gaze with its own.


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Ash walked into the DADA seminar and like... immediately wanted to walk out. Not a patronus. She hoped the lesson thing was on literally anything else. But then why would the instructor have a patronus casted right now? It was probably going to be about patronus charms. It felt like everybody could cast a patronus. Everybody but her, APPARENTLY. She held out hope that she wouldn't have to try(and fail!) at casting one for the five hundredth time. She was the worst. She couldn't do anything right(untrue- she was good at a bunch of things).

She wrote 'ASH' in large letters on the nametag. Her name was short, so she had a lot of space to write it. Ash sat down as far away as possible from literally everybody else(it wasn't personal) and nodded towards the dude in charge or whatever. "Hey." He had a nice smile, did he know?
Welp, it was a good thing Ronan couldn’t read thoughts, or else he might’ve blown his carefully organized seminar plan right out of the water. But the Ravenclaw would feel better about her inability to cast a patronus in a bit. He returned the reluctant seeming student’s greeting with one of his own along with an encouraging smile.

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Cooper was not taking Defense Against the Dark Arts at the NEWT level, so his purpose for attending this particular seminar was more in the spirit of curiosity. Curiosity and a bit of a palate cleanser from all the NEWT studying and other obligations that game with being a seventh year. Sometimes it was nice to do something just to do it and not have a fundamental reason attached to it, something he had slowly grown to understand and appreciate over the last couple of terms. He was hoping for something active, something to get the heart pumping and subconscious stressors out.

Stepping into the classroom, the Ravenclaw smiled on reflex towards the instructor of the day ... though slowly retracted it upon seeing the man's somewhat rugged and stern, perhaps even a bit aloof, presence. Emotions that may have been more projections than reality, because his eyes were mostly fixated on the silvery meerkat scampering about. Impossible to ignore the way his stomach knotted, Cooper moved to find himself a seat. "Good day, sir," he greeted, tearing his eyes away from the patronus and slipping into his seat properly. Quill out, he wrote his name on the tag provided and leaned back in his seat a little.



He then found himself hoping that the silvery meerkat was just for show and not that today's seminar would be a focus on the Patrnous Charm. Cooper had long given up on his potential to produce such powerful magic, and he easily recalled a conversation with Darren about this. Plenty of people would say that you could do anything if you put your mind to it...that the only limits are those that you impose upon yourself... but that was not entirely practical or realistic or fair. He had no jealousy, only admiration, in that as a seventh year he could still only just barely manage a wisp at best while others a full corporeal patronus. Each person had their own gifts and talents, that was what made life special.

But, he was also getting entirely too ahead of himself here and it was best to not be too presumptuous. Instead he occupied himself in watching the meerkat with a soft smile on his face. It was quite cute.
Uh-oh, another seemingly reluctant one. That wasn’t good, since that emotion could get in the way of one producing a patronus.

Sir? Why so formal? Ronan returned the students greeting with a ”Hey!” of his own. See, no need for such formality. Meanwhile, the meerkat returned his gaze with one of its own.


Hmm…..it seemed that everyone had noticed the translucent meerkat. Couldn’t keep their eyes off it, in fact. This was a good thing, that they had noticed. Meant they were at least aware of their surroundings. But then again, these were the children of war, so…..

When it seemed like everyone who was going to show up had, Ronan cancelled his patronus, flicked his wand to shut the door and straightened up from the desk where he was leaning. ”Hello, everyone and welcome to this defense seminar. I’m Ronan Carter, your guest lecturer for today. You may call me Mr. Carter, Carter or Ronan, if you prefer.” Though Mr. Carter made him slightly uncomfortable. Almost as if he were in trouble or something. Left over effects of being in Hogwarts, even though he’d been out for eleven years now. ”I see most of you have noticed my little friend. He is the topic of today’s seminar as you may have already guessed. So, I ask you, what was that creature you saw as you entered? What do you know about it? What is it used for?” He was interested to see what these students already knew about this charm.


OOC: Hey guys! So, what Ronan wants to know is if your character knows what the creature they were seeing is, what its used for and what else they may know about it.

As always, if you’re just joining us feel free to just jump in! Just pretend that your character has been here the whole time!


I’ll move the seminar along in about 24-48 hours from the time of this post, give or take a few.
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Ronan got that right. Even Jude noticed that his fellow students could barely keep their eyes off of the Patronus. In his case, it was because of the translucentness and because of the attention the Patronus was paying to the individuals. The meerkat was cute even though of course, it was fierce when it came to Dementors.

Jude was sorry to see it go, honestly. Did that mean that they wouldn’t be focusing on the Patronus Charm? Oh… no. How NOT thrilling! The Hufflepuff considered the questions before raising his left hand. “He was a meerkat in Patronus form!’’ came a rather enthusiastic reply. “Does he have a name, if it's okay to ask that?” Because naming his own Patronus {should he be able to cast one} was so something this fourth year would do.
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Ronan Carter. The name sounded familiar, though Cooper was not entirely sure where from exactly. Could have been from his archive work in the Yearbook's office. Or it could have been from the Prophet since Aurors were always getting mentioned for some reason or another. Whatever the case was, the seventh year took some effort to look away from the meerkat and to the man himself so he could give the seminar some honest effort and attention. It was going to be...beyond necessary...especially if the topic of the day really was a how-to with a patronus.

One could, maybe, blame the nerves and anticipation of performance issues for the point whizzing completely over Cooper's head as he answered. His brain just honed in on the word 'creature' and what he knew about said creature. Which was to say...he knew a fair bit. "Meerkats are native to southern Africa and, as members of the mongoose family, immune to some types of venom and are incredibly intelligent creatures. They also get most of their water from what they eat rather than rely on a water source." He was content with his response...until approximately ten seconds after the final words left his mouth and he realized entirely too belated that...that was unlikely anywhere near the response Mr. Carter (formal in the presence of adults was the default, sorry, sir). Scrambling, mentally, to bring his response back on track...Cooper came up with ... something. "...does...that...um...mean that your patronus is particularly effective against venomous creatures or... if you conjure one while you are experiencing the effects of a poison or venom...there is some sort of impact? Like with an acromantula...or basilisk... or Norwegian Ridgeback?"

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Ash doodled a meerkat on her hand in pen as she spoke. A real meerkat. Not the... not the patronus kind. "Um, meerkats are social." ... "Does that mean you're social?" ... "Also it's a patronus, which are really hard to cast in a solid form. They come to some people more easily than others." From the look on her face, 'some people' quite obviously did not include her. "They're supposed to be made out of your happiness, hope, and determination to live, or something." Which were things that she had!!! She didn't understand what the problem was. Hm. Maybe Ronan would tell her. Maybe.

Of course, there were other things to be said about a patronus, but Ash had just said the part that stuck out to her.
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Milo, in his usual closest-to-the-door seat, sat with his knees to his chest, shins against the desk, and socked toes curling around the seat of the chair. Since slipping into the room, he'd apparently been more focused on the name tag than anything else, using his own knees as a makeshift desk (as opposed to the desk right in front of him) as he worked on going over the words BIRD HAWKMAN over and over and over, so many times that the inky letters were all starting to meld and fuse together.

His eyes flicked up briefly as the light in the room dimmed slightly, long enough to know that the patronus was gone now. "Manifestation of protective energy," Milo said, apparently in answer to the question, though now he kept his eyes on the name tag and the 'w' he was re-inking yet again.
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Kinsay James had fallen severely behind in Defense Against the Dark Arts. She never had trouble with the subject before this year, but. But now the subject alluded her entirely. Too many distractions. So while she wouldn't have otherwise been inclined to join in on a seminar, she needed all the help she could get.

... Which is why she had forgone her usual seat in the back for a desk positioned more centrally today. It also helped that they're guest lecturer had a very nice face. Maybe he'd be extra nice to her because her mum was a senior auror for ages before she became Undersecretary. That's why Kinsay made sure to make her surname SUPER big on her nametag. Kinsay JAMES. See? It's all in the details.

Anyway. His face. It was a really, really nice one. The meerkat was cute too, kind of. But she'd rather pay attention to his face. Until the seminar began, of course, at which point she made a herculean effort to focus on the lesson at hand. Aka. The meerkat, which was obviouslyyyyy a patronus.

She waited patiently for her turn before raising her hand. Professor Peabody would be getting the breakdown of how the seminar went, right? Because it was important that she knew Kinsay was doing super well. Maybe she'd even considering bumping up her marks afterwards. "You can use them to deliver messages." Also, as a follow up to Violet's point, "Can you change your patronus if you don't like what it looks like?" What if your unique patronus turned out to be a skunk? Or a dung beetle? Or something even more embarrassing?

Imagine all that hardwork, learning how to cast a patronus, perfecting it to be in its corporeal form, just to find out it's a DUNG BEETLE?!
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It was nice to see some excited faces at the prospect of learning about patronuses.


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That was one of his least favorite parts of the job, the having his name in the papers, by the way. The recognition was nice, but the rest, ick.
Mr. Branxton’s response had him chuckling good-naturedly. ”All that’s very true about meerkats. But as that wasn’t a true meerkat,” just a representation of one. He let the sentence trail off as the Ravenclaw continued, however. ”You know, I’ve never tried it before. Never had to.” Thank goodness. It was then, however, that his left hand and the scar there caught his eye, and he was reminded of what put it there and the legends about those creatures and their venom. But then, he wasn’t sure if that was something he should share with the students so….

He shook his head a bit to clear the thought before continuing. ”But if I had to guess, since a patronus is not the actual animal itself, just a representation of it that it doesn’t work that way.”


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It seemed that Ms. Fox had been practicing the spell on her own and wasn’t having much success. This, of course, was going by the expression on her face and the tone of her voice. [B]”Alas, this is true. In fact, more people can’t produce one than can.” He was getting ahead of himself and his mental outline of how the class would go, but part of being an auror was rolling with the punches. ”But we’ll get to that in a bit.”

Milo

The next student seemed to be an enigma. Also, maybe should’ve specified that students should wear shoes? Oh well, it wasn’t like they would be doing anything dangerous today, so Mr. “Hawkman”’s (he wasn’t buying that name, by the way) toes would be safe. He did make a note to keep an eye on this one, though. But as long as the Ravenclaw (why was it always the Claws?) was paying attention……

……which it appeared he was. ”Yep, made from the feelings manifested from a particularly happy memory.” And again, he was getting ahead of himself. Oh well.


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”Indeed, though it is possible for two people to have the same one since there are only a finite number of animals in the world. It is rare for one to meet their ‘patronus twin’, however.” Much less work in the place, in the same department as them. But that was a story for another time.

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He had to wonder if this student was related to one Genevieve James, the auror (he chose to ignore the ‘senior’ and ‘junior’ labels whenever possible) turned Senior Undersecretary. Though, James wasn’t necessarily an uncommon last name. There was just something about the Gryffindor that reminded him of the Undersecretary.

And yes, he knew he had a nice face. A fact that had gotten him in trouble more than once. And not in the auror-y way, either.

”The most common usage, actually.” Definitely what he used Timon for most, besides occasionally showing off. As for her question? ”No, a patronus typically doesn’t change form unless its caster undergoes something especially traumatic, such as the loss of a loved one or falling deeply in love. In fact, the most famous cases of this happening have happened because of love.” Which he would get to in a bit. Hopefully. But no, if someone ended up with a dung beetle as a patronus they would just have to learn to love the dung beetle.


Ah, it seemed as if these students had been studying ahead in their books. He couldn’t decide if that was a good thing or a bad thing. ”As your classmate has mentioned,” he gave a nod to Ms. James, ”a patronus’ most common or frequent use is as a form of communication, but they are also used for protection purposes, especially against dementors and lethifolds. And they can be used to bolster people’s spirits when things seem especially bleak, such as in wartimes.” Especially useful, which Ronan supposed was why everyone tended to be disappointed when they couldn’t produce one. That, and the fact of them being advanced magic of course.

”Now, we’re going to change direction a bit and go over the history and such of the charm. I know you’re eager to get to learning and practicing this particular spell, but this information will be on your exam, I’ve been assured. So, what do you know about when the charm was invented and who invented it? What is the most common form a corporal patronus takes? What is the least common form? What is the most famous patronus?”


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Timon! That was a cool and perfect name for the meerkat. Of course he got the reference, having watched The Lion King with his sisters. This also told him that Carter just might be into movies, specifically the older ones. Jude nodded his acknowledgement then turned his attention to the other answers being given.

The Hufflepuff settled back into his seat. He briefly allowed himself again to muse silently about his possible Patronus forms. He sincerely hoped that he would be able to cast a corporeal one. Jude came out of his daydream in time to hear the seminar moving on. Up went his hand. “Er, I don’t think there was ever an inventor of the spell mentioned. At least, I never came across such a mention. I do know the charm was created such a long time ago that the inventor’s name got lost as time went along.”
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It took every single ounce of her being not to reply with 'I know'. Every. Single. Ounce. It was that 'actually' that bothered her so much. Made her feel all sorts of small. But she smiled politely instead and went back to doodling in her sketchbook because she was incessantly polite. Something else she decided not to voice? Her thoughts on going over the history of the spell. Okay, so maybe it'd show up on their end-of-the-year exams. But, like, why else was it necessary to know the history of a spell? Kinsay couldn't think of a single practical reason (and obviously she knew best here). It was probably just busy work. Kinsay knew all the professor tricks in the book, see?

So rather than answer any of the boring questions, she raised her hand to address one of the better ones. Like, what was the most common form of a corporeal patronus. "Is the most common one a dog?" Because there were tons of dog people in the world. And dogs are protective. And cute. And there were tons of dog breeds, so that's like a million possibilities. And all of these supporting details were thought of after she made her guess. As one does.
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"I heard of a man named Hedley Fleetwood who had a woolly mammoth Patronus, which I'd imagine is pretty rare, since that's an extinct animal," Violet added. She was a bit distracted from the discussion by trying to guess what sort of Patronus she might have. 'The awakened secret self that lies dormant until needed,' she'd read in a book somewhere. It would be exciting to find out what one's secret self was!
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Exam? Milo did not recall agreeing to sit any sort of exam, test, or quiz at any point in the near future, so it seemed this seminar was not for him, though he'd figured that out as soon as he'd seen the patronus - for reasons. But then, he wasn't particularly eager to practice that spell (see: reasons) and generally found history to be interesting in any case.

Except ultimately he didn't have an answer. Milo was instead stuck on something Mr... Man had said to Kinsay James, something which had temporarily overshadowed the rest of it. "If falling in love is traumatic why do people say love is a good thing?" And also. "You could pay someone to shake up your psyche so much that your patronus changes. There's a gap in the market." And also. "It would give the potentially nefarious something to do."

Perhaps Milo would propose the idea to one of his more industrious relatives, or perhaps it was too late, now he'd said it out loud. Perhaps he would let the thought disperse into the air around him and let it manifest wherever and whenever and ifever it chose.
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Ash was far from eager, but she tried to LOOK eager. Nobody ever succeeded by convincing themself they'd fail, right? So having a positive attitude would help her cast her patronus. Probably. "Albus Dumbledore had a phoenix patronus. I don't know if it's the least common, but I don't know anyone else with a patronus like that." She wished she had a phoenix patronus. But she'd settle for a few tattoos. There wasn't much of a choice. "We- or I at least- don't know who made the spell, like Jude said... but they were probably really powerful. Because you'd need to be pretty into experimental spellwork, and be capable of casting a patronus to discover it."
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An attempt had been made to reign it back on topic...and Cooper was not entirely sure he had entirely accomplished that and saved face a bit. Cooper never really considered himself to be someone with a lot of pride, or at least not someone who was bruised easily and it took a great bit of force for him to become too down on himself...but oof, this was embarrassing. Obviously a reflection upon himself, the emphasis the guest lecturer placed on the meerkat being a representation echoed between his ears in a rather self deprecating kind of way. Of course it wasn't a real meerkat and, well, anyway. Deep breath in and a nice slow one out, the Ravenclaw attempted to expel the negative energy he was subconsciously giving permission to settle in his chest.

Nodding his head as Mr. Carter spoke, he settled in and focused in on the next question...which he paused for a bit of reflection before he offered a response. "Given the nature of a patronus, its creation and how one successfully conjures is corporeal form, I would venture to guess that creatures...the real ones...that are sociable would be among the more common ones to manifest themselves...likes canines," he theorized, echoing his cousin a bit. "...or dolphins...meerkats...and felines... I would also imagine that mundane animals may be more common than magical ones, a horse before a unicorn or abraxan, for example. Creatures that tend to live more solitary lives are the rarer forms of a patronus."

Also...Milo...oof. A can of worms he was going to work on not letting his brain go spiraling through.
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Well that was a lot of questions that Karleigh did not know the answer to. She did not realize that a patronus could be famous nor did she know the commonality of any such partonuses - patroni? - though she did think her classmates came up with some pretty good reasoning, especially Kinsay's cousin. But she really liked the idea of a unicorn patronus...

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Why did the name Ronan Carter seem familiar to him? Apollo had been distracted in trying to figure out where he'd heard that name that he was barely paying attention to the discussion. What was that about love being traumatic? Don't ask Apollo, because he was in his own world.

Who invented the patronus charm ??? UMMMM ... how would anyone of them be expected to know THAT?? Were they supposed to read about the patronus charm before today's seminar, because this gryffindor definitely did not do that homework. Where was Maya, since he was sure that if anyone would done the reading, it would have been her? Also, Kinsay's suggestion of the most common being a dog sounded legit. As far as the least common ... wait, he knew this ... "It's ... the least common ... is an albatross or something. Cause they're a symbol of bad luck, so well, no one wants bad luck for a charm that's supposed to bring light." He didn't know why or how he knew that, but somehow he just recalled that, maybe cause the name was kind of fun to say??

Also. Ronan Carter. He knew that name from the Diggorys! Aria's aunt Skylar. That's where he heard the name. Not that Ronan would have heard about him, but maybe?
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Jude

”Exactly right. It could have been one of those things invented in the ancient times with the inventors name lost to the Dark Ages, for example.” Could anyone tell he wasn’t exactly fond of the Dark Ages? All that lost information……

Kinsay

Had he hit a nerve? He hadn’t meant to, truly. But then, he was always doing that. It was one of his personality flaws. ”Yep. Usually a specific breed.”

Violet

”Yep, extinct animals are definitely among the rarer forms a patronus can take. Mostly because, since they’re extinct, we don’t really have much experience with them.” Unfortunate, really.

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This one……Ronan wasn’t really sure what to make of him. But he did make some good points. ”Welllo ve can be messy and hurtful, but it can definitely be a good thing, even euphoric, if it’s with the right person.” Just don’t ask him how you know if you’ve found the right person, because he hadn’t yet. As for the psyche thing…… ”You could…..but there’s no guarantee that it would change even then. Or even how far the person would take it. Could even end up dead if you paid the wrong person. In fact, I know someone who was bitten and tortured by a vampire and their patronus still didn't change.” That person was him (of course, he hadn't paid Goldwasser to do that, but still). So yeah basically, wasn’t a good idea. ”The better idea would be just to learn to love your patronus, no matter what it is.”

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”That is definitely one of the rarer patronuses, phoenixes and other magical creatures.” he replied, nodding.

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”That is exactly what affects how common a patronus form is. The most common three are dogs, cats and horses, the mundane ones.” So no abraxans or kneazles, just some lovely chestnuts and tabbies.

Karleigh

Another one that was worried about the form their patronus would take. He could understand that, actually. He remembered being afraid his would take the form of some sort of snake or something. ”Unfortunately, no there’s no way of choosing the form your patronus will take. It depends on many factors, not least of which include where you are form, and therefore which animals you have experience with, usually anyway. And also, which creature matches your inner personality.” Which he would get to in a bit.

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Why did albatrosses get such a bad rap? Just because one poet used it in a poem that ended badly? Personally, he thought seagulls were the bigger menace, but that was just him. ”Not quite as rare as magical and extinct creatures, but not one of the more common ones either. Also, if you get a albatross as a patronus, please don’t think of it as a harbinger of doom. There may be a deeper reason behind it.” Which, again, he would get to in a bit.

Also, while he’d heard the name Apollo before, it wasn’t really ringing any bells with him at the moment, sorry.


Wow, the students had really been studying patronuses already then, huh? He couldn’t decide rather to be impressed or irritated about being made to waste his time. I mean, wasn’t like he had a job where if he took a few hours off, it didn’t hurt anything. He was an auror for Merlin’s sake! Still, he kept these thoughts off his face and out of his voice. No good could come from appearing irritated in front of this crowd. After all, it wasn’t their faults. And some of them had made some interesting points, nonetheless.

”As has been pointed out, the spell was indeed invented so long ago that the inventor’s name has been lost over time. In fact, mention of the spell has been found in some very ancient,” as in, before even his grandparents were even thought of, ”texts. As several of you have pointed out, the most common forms of patronus are those most closely associated with humans. So dogs, cats, horses and the like. Now, they do usually take the form of a specific breed these animals. For instance, if someone’s patronus is a dog, it might be, say, a German Shepard instead of just a generic dog. Also, it usually, not always but usually, takes the form of an animal that is common where the caster is from. Someone from Australia, for instance, may have a kangaroo as a patronus. As you all saw as you entered class, mine is one of those ‘not always’ cases. See, I’m from here in Britain originally, yet meerkats are found in Africa. So, this where the ‘expression of the hidden self’ thing comes in. Something, either magic itself or whatever, decided that my hidden self was best represented by the meerkat, which is known in the animal kingdom for being highly social, burrowing, being highly alert and, as Mr. Branxton pointed out earlier, being resistant to certain types of venom.” Just for an explanation of how that works, not for bragging purposes.

”The least common forms of patronus are those of magical or extinct animals. So, phoenixes, unicorns, mammoths, dinosaurs and the like.” Sorry to disappoint. ”Also, having one of these as a patronus doesn’t automatically mean that that particular witch or wizard is more powerful. It just means they have a different personality. Though, powerful wizards have had such patronuses. Ms. Fox mentioned Albus Dumbledore. Now, I think we can all agree he had to be a pretty powerful wizard, right? But also, look at what is known about them. They are mostly known for bursting into flames at the end of their lives and being reborn from the ashes, right?” Which wasn’t what happened to Dumbledore, by the way. Nope, he’s still dead, fortunately or unfortunately depending on the way you view things. ”But it is also known as a symbol of personal renewal in and of itself. Taking what we know of Dumbledore, this certainly makes sense. Consider who he was associated with in his youth. The dark wizard Grindelwald. But he turned against him when Grindelwald started moving against muggles. It may have been then that Dumbledore’s patronus took on its most famous form. Or it may have been when he defeated Grindelwald in that duel at the end of the first wizarding war. Or it just may have been his patronus from the beginning.” Who really knew? ”The point being to never make fun of someone’s patronus and never be ashamed of the form your own takes, because you never know the circumstances that gave that person that patronus and just being able to produce one is an impressive feat itself.”

Anyway, with all that said…..

”The most famous patronus is that of a wizard known as Illyius, whose mouse patronus fought off a whole hoard of Dementors to save its caster. Which, when you think about the size of your typical mouse and compare it to the size of just one typical Dementor…… And this was a whole bunch……. Pretty impressive, right?” At least, he thought it was.

Now that they had all that history out of the way, they could move on. ”So, with all that information, how common do you all think corporal patronuses are? And do you think dark wizards can produce one?” The answers were right in front of them, if they only thought about it a little.


Phew, that’s a lot. And a bit after the 24-48 hours I promised in my last post, I know. To be brief, life happened. So anyway, what Ronan’s asking is just how common patronuses are and if your character thinks that dark wizards can produce one.

I’ll try my hardest to have the next post up in 24-48 hours from the time of this post, give or take a few, where we’ll be starting on actually learning the spell!
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Jude didn’t think Ronan was wasting his time; in fact, the Hufflepuff was learning a few extra facts about Patronuses. And there were definitely interesting points in that long winded explanation from the Auror once everyone had given their response. Jude thought he might have zoned out had it not been for the topic being the Patronus Charm.

You know what interested him the most? The bit about Patronus forms being dependent on their personalities. Jude thought about the questions for a moment and decided that he would answer both questions since he could be wrong about either or both that would allow other students to jump in with correct answers. “I don’t think Corporeal Patronuses are very common and that might be because mainly powerful wizards and witches can produce them. Since powerful witches and wizards can also be Dark, then I would say yes, they can also produce Corporeal Patronuses.
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Mr. Carter was speaking a fair bit...and Cooper was hanging off the man's every word. It was, as far as he could predict, the closest he would ever get to understanding his own patronus. It did ignite a certain yearing for him to produce one, however, so he could spend time analyzing just what it meant. Likely with Theo at some odd hour of the morning before sun up. He had pondered what his own might take, and he felt that the most likely form of his own would be a canine one.

Pulling himself back from his own speculation, Cooper found himself latching on to a couple of things the auror was sharing with them all. A few that helped him provide a response to his questions.

"In the example you provided, the one with Illyius, it was recorded that a dark wizard known as Raczidian lashed out in an act of pride and attempted to conjure a patronus with the intention to battle and chase off the mouse patronus...but his attempt resulted in his demise...devoured by maggots that came out of his wand instead. So...either his patronus was a maggot and it turned on him, multiplying, because of his sinister intent...or its a side effect of the charm itself, the magic backfiring sort of like when you pronounce an incantation incorrectly. Only this backfiring is the silvery mist turning into maggots if the intention of the caster is to cause harm and not protect."
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"I guess if you need the right intent, AND you have to be good at magic, AND you have to have the right... the right..." ............... "...the right memory and stuff... it would be really hard to cast any patronus. And corporeal ones are harder." Ash fiddled with her bracelets. They were supposed to be mind-clearing, or calming, or something. But they were mostly just pretty. "I've never seen a dark wizard cast a patronus." And she hoped they couldn't. It just wouldn't be fair. It just wouldn't be fair.
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