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The DADA classroom is done in subtle shades of cream and brown. The chairs, set in neat concentric semi-circles, are the revolving, fixed-to-the-floor kind; and there is a fair gap between any two chairs. There is a whiteboard at the front of the classroom and, to its left, a neat little table that looks like it's made of glass.
Come in and take a seat. Professor Glass is not in the classroom, but she will be here in a few minutes.
OOC: The class has now STARTED. Please don't RP your characters arriving late. If YOU are joining the class just now, pretend that your charrie was there all along. =)
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While this class was rather interesting already in the few minutes it's started, it was hard to process everyone's opinions at once. She couldn't remember if it was like that during the last few years of school, but she didn't like it!
Besides, she was going to lose her voice if she kept talking this much. Goodness! "A dark creature is one that is magical in nature, and exists only to harm, but not in the way where it would do so for the need to survive." she said after raising her hand. Nor do they have those life cycle thingies but that Gryffindor already said that.
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Maddy considered this, and raised her hand when she came up with a solid answer "Dark creatues differ from light creatures because they have the potential to harm individuals or any creature can be considered dark if it uses it's power to harm. Take unicorns for example, they are very "light" creatures, but if someone drinks their blood, they have a half life; a cursed life."
Kennedy raised his hand. He remembered something that his godfather had told him. It was creepy and he wondered if it was true... not that he didn't trust his godfather. Two opinions were better than one. "Dark creatures differ from those that aren't dark because they are naturally evil. The can even be said to be the very incarnation of Dark Magic." Right? "Doing evil things that in no way benefit them in their every day life." Like very nasty stuff. "For example, many people think that pixies are dark, but really they just have a mean attitude." And, were great at pulling hair. He still had a sore spot on his head because of that.
Feeling more Confident now Nessie raised her hand and tried her best to answer Professor Glass. Seeing as she was born to a unmagical couple she came here knowing nothing. "I don't think there's a exact definition. It's all up to what a person perceives from certain magic. A certain type of magic could be normal for another but frowned apon by a different person. If there was a definition it would be something along the lines of a spell or practice frowned apon by modern magical society. I do think that - if under circumstances - it would be okay. If let's say you were defending you life I think it would be acceptable." 'Wow' Nessie thought. 'That actually sounded kind of smart.' Nessie, proud of herself, smiled to herself.
Sarani, who had been sitting on top of the glass table throughout the discussion, raised a hand for silence.
"The Dark Arts are all manifestations of magic - both tangible and intangible - whose primary purpose is to harm. This includes spells, equipment, potions, creatures and practices. There are two fixed attributes of each dark art: its power is proportional to the degree of malicious intent, meaning its power decreases with a decrease in malicious intent and it is never possible to utilize it to its fullest extent unless one wants to maim; and sooner or later, it corrupts."
"Prefect Erised raised a valid point. Too often, what is 'dark' is not the magic, but the wizard or witch behind it. Miss Denver and Mr. Carter mentioned a few spells, including the levitation charm. Using levitation to drop someone off the edge of a cliff would be a good example of a wizard or witch using a simple spell to cause harm. What ensures the Levitation Charm is not dark magic, then, is the fact that it can be utilized to its maximum potential without having to intend to cause harm. The Cruciatus Curse, on the other hand, cannot be used to induce pain if the caster does not enjoy causing the target pain."
"Miss Gwydion and Miss Trewhella both brought up excellent questions. When is the use of dark arts justifiable? Is it justifiable? To answer your question, Miss Trewhella, aurors were allowed to use Unforgivables during the two wizardings wars and, in some parts of the magical world, can still do so. Bear in mind, however, that law enforcement trainees must study both non-lethal and less-lethal magic. This means that, until and unless they have no other option, law enforcement personnel are required to opt for alternatives. It is my belief that a dark witch or wizard is not one who would use an Unforgivable; it is one who would use an Unforgivable for the sake of using one." The class was free to differ. No one ever got anywhere by agreeing to everything their instructors believed in.
"The important thing to remember is that, while intent can make a simple spell harmful, that is an example of a witch or wizard moulding a spell to his or her own needs. The Dark Arts, in themselves, are all forms of magic that require malicious intent to be utilized to their maximum potential, and whose endpoint is corruption. People who use the Killing Curse on a regular basis will lose the ability to empathize." Might as well throw that out there. Food for thought.
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Louisa had been staring at the professor all the time as she spoke. Sometimes she was distracted by a word or two that she didn't quite follow and sometimes she just stared. This DADA thing was so not her department. Maybe she could ask Joao for help? Or Adam. Or both.
However, she tried to think about a good answer. Dark creatures...hmm... she didn't mean dark in color, did she? Hehehehe. Okay, Louisa needed to stop this. Raising her hand she spoke, "Dark Creatures have dark attributes? Like the malicious intent to always cause harm. Like Dementors." Yeah, that was it for her.
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Ryden frowned. She hadn't really been paying much attention to the discussion going on, mainly because it involved subjects she wasn't too fond of - dark, not dark, light, evil, good, darkness, all that rubbish - and it gave her a headache. Meh.
Perhaps it had been good that Borr hadn't delved too deep last term. Saved her a heck of a lot of migraines. Then again, she needed to actually pass her OWL. Drat.
RIGHT. Concentrating. Okay. Dark creatures. Umm. "They exist solely to cause harm, inflict pain, be nasty for either no apparent reason or to sustain themselves... They don't live like other animals, and they don't die like them either. So to speak, they're not actually animals but dark beings. Obviously, all of them are magical. . . They're like Dark magic molded into a resemblance of independent life," Ryden said, and blinked.
Hey, that last bit actually sounded good.
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Penny tried to remember what she had read about dark creatures.. she put her hand in the air..
"Professor, dark creatures are magical and they exist to cause harm, like Kappas or Hinkypunks and Basilisks.... unlike other magical creatures like bow truckles, who protect wand trees or gnomes, which aren't dark per see, just mischievious."....
Lexi was not sure she agreed with the Professor on everything, but then again she had found in her years at Hogwarts that she seldom saw eye to eye with ANY professor at the school. Heh.
Raising her hand she said, "Dark creatures are creatures that's sole purpose is to inflict harm. They are not necessarily animals, either. The Dementors are considered Dark creatures, but they are not animals in the traditional sense." She could argue that some of her classmates were Dark Creatures perhaps... at least one disgusting girl was as slimy as they come and evil to boot. Heh.
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"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Stella had remained quiet during the debate about the Dark Arts in general, not because she had any reason to. Other than simply not feeling the need to repeat what others had said. She didn't liek feeling like she was taking somebody else's ideas and repeating them exactly, and after a point that was inevitable with that discussion. Dark creatures were something else entirely, though, and she found herself raising her hand. "Like has been said, specifically Dark creatures exist only to create chaos, harm and damage. They aren't predators in the sense that a predator hunts to feed, to surv ive. Dark creatures don't necessarily need to harm and kill for survival, they just do it for the sake of the action. They harm people or other animals just because they like to, just as the most important factor in the Dark Arts in general is the need for evil intent. Like Dementors or boggarts." At least, those were proably the more widely known, although there were definitely others. None of which she'd want to run into on a deserted road, even if she could cast a Patronus.
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Another question...well, at least this question seemed more interesting than the last. Jenny looked around, noticing that others were saying what she wanted to say already. Is it even worth bothering to answer at this point? She didn't have anything new to add.
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Sarani, who had been sitting on the edge of the glass table throughout the discussion, raised a hand for silence.
"The Dark Arts are all manifestations of magic - both tangible and intangible - whose primary purpose is to harm. This includes spells, equipment, potions, creatures and practices. There are two fixed attributes of each dark art: its power is proportional to the degree of malicious intent, meaning its power decreases with a decrease in malicious intent and it is never possible to utilize it to its fullest extent unless one wants to maim; and sooner or later, it corrupts."
"Prefect Erised raised a valid point. Too often, what is 'dark' is not the magic, but the wizard or witch behind it. Miss Denver and Mr. Carter mentioned a few spells, including the levitation charm. Using levitation to drop someone off the edge of a cliff would be a good example of a wizard or witch using a simple spell to cause harm. What ensures the Levitation Charm is not dark magic, then, is the fact that it can be utilized to its maximum potential without having to intend to cause harm. The Cruciatus Curse, on the other hand, cannot be used to induce pain if the caster does not enjoy causing the target pain."
"Miss Gwydion and Miss Trewhella both brought up excellent questions. When is the use of dark arts justifiable? Is it justifiable? To answer your question, Miss Trewhella, aurors were allowed to use Unforgivables during the two wizardings wars and, in some parts of the magical world, can still do so. Bear in mind, however, that law enforcement trainees must study both non-lethal and less-lethal magic. This means that, until and unless they have no other option, law enforcement personnel are required to opt for alternatives. It is my belief that a dark witch or wizard is not one who would use an Unforgivable; it is one who would use an Unforgivable for the sake of using one." The class was free to differ. No one ever got anywhere by agreeing to everything their instructors believed in.
"The important thing to remember is that, while intent can make a simple spell harmful, that is an example of a witch or wizard moulding a spell to his or her own needs. The Dark Arts, in themselves, are all forms of magic that require malicious intent to be utilized to their maximum potential, and whose endpoint is corruption. People who use the Killing Curse on a regular basis will lose the ability to empathize." Might as well throw that out there. Food for thought.
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Alyssa raised her hand and when acknowledged stood up.
"Dark creatures are prone to dark and evil ways. They are a physical embodiment of Dark Magic.They aren't really animals. They are actually another form of magical being. There are several ways where they differ from other creatures, but the ones I know are, they seek actively to harm and they often do not have a complete life cycle the way a typical animal would but simply exist as a physical extension of an evil invention. Some examples of dark creatures are banshees and grindelows.
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Everyone was answering...but Marilyn felt like explaining further. Raising her hand, she said, "Dark creatures are often called "demons" in books but not in a religious sense. It mainly describes a key aspect they all possess, in which they exist to actively do harm and damage..."
"Some facts about Dark Creatures are that they don't have life cycles in the same sense that normal animals have. They attack for the sake of causing pain rather than some essential need to sustain life. It's been said that they are a physical embodiment of an evil, nefarious intent. And considering we believe that the essence of magic is driven by INTENT...Dark creatures are a physical embodiment of Dark Magic."
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"Other creatures act to simply do two things...Survive and protect. They don't try to cause harm simply because they feel like it..."
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The Professor spoke and shifted the discussion from a general discussion of dark magic to the specific topic of dark creatures. This was a tricky subject, because if they applied the general topic previously discussed, that intent plays a major role in determining whether something is dark or not, then they would have to know if the creatures intend to harm to be classified as dark. After pondering on it a while, Eino raised his hand. "Professor, I think a creature can be considered dark if it seeks out to harm others without being threatened. For example, both the shrieks from a grown mandrake and a banshee can be fatal, however, the mandrakes will only shriek if you unearth it, which could be considered self-defense, as opposed to banshees. Dementors are also good examples of dark creatures because they seek out to harm others, since they depend on it to survive." It was trick to say that all creatures that harm or injure are considered dark, because most creatures would harm wizards in different of circumstances, but mainly if they were threatened. Certainly those whose natures require harming could be considered dark, as many of his classmates had suggested.
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"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
That question fascinated Victoria as she thought about the possible answer. Then she raised her hand up in the air, high. "A dark creature," began Victoria. "is known to harm humans, and possess dark powers and magic." Victoria paused for a moment before speaking again. She wasn't postive if the definition was exactly right, but it was worth a shot. "Like dementors...and boggarts!" added Victoria, as they were all that she can think of on the top of her mind right now.
...okay, now wil come MY name out of her mouth... now, she will credit ME!..
She didn't credit me.
SHE DIDN'T CREDIT ME!
How was that even possible?! He had just DISCUSSED and raised such good points and--
Apparently she didn't hear. Or else, she would have credited him too. In fact, she would have credited him and him only. Because the other students were... not as bright as he was.
He also didn't agree with her point of 'dark arts' either. Just so if she could and did read minds now.
After a moment of huge disappointment, he raised his hand to answer the next question. At least, she would hear this.
"A dark creature intends to harm. They do it out of pleasure, however. In that essence they are different from a regular animal. Predators eat to live, but dark creatures--which aren't animals to start with--just harm for their sense of humour, I guess. They are magical, also, and don't have a normal life cycle."
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Sarani, who had been sitting on the edge of the glass table throughout the discussion, raised a hand for silence.
"The Dark Arts are all manifestations of magic - both tangible and intangible - whose primary purpose is to harm. This includes spells, equipment, potions, creatures and practices. There are two fixed attributes of each dark art: its power is proportional to the degree of malicious intent, meaning its power decreases with a decrease in malicious intent and it is never possible to utilize it to its fullest extent unless one wants to maim; and sooner or later, it corrupts."
"Prefect Erised raised a valid point. Too often, what is 'dark' is not the magic, but the wizard or witch behind it. Miss Denver and Mr. Carter mentioned a few spells, including the levitation charm. Using levitation to drop someone off the edge of a cliff would be a good example of a wizard or witch using a simple spell to cause harm. What ensures the Levitation Charm is not dark magic, then, is the fact that it can be utilized to its maximum potential without having to intend to cause harm. The Cruciatus Curse, on the other hand, cannot be used to induce pain if the caster does not enjoy causing the target pain."
"Miss Gwydion and Miss Trewhella both brought up excellent questions. When is the use of dark arts justifiable? Is it justifiable? To answer your question, Miss Trewhella, aurors were allowed to use Unforgivables during the two wizardings wars and, in some parts of the magical world, can still do so. Bear in mind, however, that law enforcement trainees must study both non-lethal and less-lethal magic. This means that, until and unless they have no other option, law enforcement personnel are required to opt for alternatives. It is my belief that a dark witch or wizard is not one who would use an Unforgivable; it is one who would use an Unforgivable for the sake of using one." The class was free to differ. No one ever got anywhere by agreeing to everything their instructors believed in.
"The important thing to remember is that, while intent can make a simple spell harmful, that is an example of a witch or wizard moulding a spell to his or her own needs. The Dark Arts, in themselves, are all forms of magic that require malicious intent to be utilized to their maximum potential, and whose endpoint is corruption. People who use the Killing Curse on a regular basis will lose the ability to empathize." Might as well throw that out there. Food for thought.
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Jordan was, somewhat right on his definition of Dark Arts, but he wasn't too satisified, because he still missed out on some pretty important information. But then he thought about Questions, so he raised his hand, and when called upon, asked: "Professor, say one of us, students, were in a life and death situation. We were out of school, and a Dark Lord has approached us. If we used the, Killing Curse, to defend ourselves from getting killed, would that be acceptable, and would we be sent to Azkaban Prison?" Jordan asked with a little bit of extreme situation example, he had heard of a situation like this. Almost everyone did, knowing Harry Potter. Who he was indirectly related to.
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Jordan had a basic idea of what Dark Arts really was. Although, most of his classmates should have some idea of what Dark Arts, so he raised his hand and waited to be called upon. "Dark Arts, to me, is the Practice of Evil or Dark, Magic. For magic to be considered, Dark, the magic must be intended for harm, destruction, or evil. For Example, the Killing Curse, is meant to kill. The Cruciatus Curse is meant to Torture, and the Imperio Curse, is meant to control, most likely for dangerous and evil things. But, also, anything can be Dark or Evil Magic, it's just how we perceive and use our magic."
Jordan thought he understood Dark Magic very well, although, he would prefer not to look back. The only way he knew of Dark Magic was from his Mother and Father's deaths. He, indeed, couldn't remember the tragic accident, but lately, he's been dreaming of visions of his Father and Mother. He knew that it was his family, and not just a dream, because it was always the same vision, even during the day, he may be able to see his mom or dad. But, what he really wanted is, to remember everything, and that was all.
Ronnie looked around for anyone she knew while she sat at her table. She then spotted Jordan, and wondered if she could quickly move next to Jordan. He wasn't too far away, she quickly moved to the chair next to him. "Hey," she said smiling at him.
Alice was rather perplexed by the professor's second question. "Hmm.. What makes a dark creature differ from a NON-dark creature?" .. She was having a bit of difficulty coming up with an answer, and she thought maybe it would be best to answer with what exactly came to her head first.. "Er well I would think that a dark creature, such as a demon or a dementor would be used ultimately to inflict harm, so.. A dark creature would be something that feeds off of harm that it inflicts on people, or anything of the sort."
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Ronnie looked around for anyone she knew while she sat at her table. She then spotted Jordan, and wondered if she could quickly move next to Jordan. He wasn't too far away, she quickly moved to the chair next to him. "Hey," she said smiling at him.
Jordan looked up to see Ronnie. "Hey." Jordan whispered back, very silently, hoping not to get caught talking while the Professor was Lecturing. He really didn't want to lose any House Points, not from him at least.
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Jordan looked up to see Ronnie. "Hey." Jordan whispered back, very silently, hoping not to get caught talking while the Professor was Lecturing. He really didn't want to lose any House Points, not from him at least.
Ronnie smiled at him then looked back at the professor. Like William was saying, they didn't want to lose any points for Gryffindor this year.
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Sammy was listening intently, but everyone seemed to be saying the exact same thing. A dark creature is someone who intends to do harm, which was true but wouldn't it depend on a person's point of view whether or not someone was actually harmed or just being a wimp. Of course there were obvious ones such as demontors, but they were tamed by the Ministry to guard Azkaban, weren't they?
So instead of sitting their quietly like she usually would in classes she raised her hand and said "Pardon me if I'm wrong Professor, but wouldn't it depend on a person's point of view to whether a creature is actually dark or not. And the majority of supposedly 'dark' creatures can be tamed, take dementors, which has been mentioned a couple of times, they've been tamed by the Ministry to guard Azkaban and furthermore they do intend harm but to them it's what comes naturally, I don't think dementors actually see it as harmful just something that must be done to survive" she said, then getting a little confused with what she had just said, was she defending dementors? Weird. What. She didn't even know if dementors needed to suck happy memories out of people to survive, were they even alive? And if they weren't alive did they count as creatures? Oh god, this was headache worthy.
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Alex began to zone out as the professor went into a long winded explanation of WHAT exactly the dark arts were, and he blinked a few times before he realized she'd asked a question. Shooting up quickly, since he figured this woman was NOT one to appreciate slackers in her class, his hand shot into the air.
"Professor, dark creatures are magical creatures who intend to harm others just by...well, being in existence. They often don't have a specific target, and some even attack muggles as well, which makes it tricky when you have to explain those attacks to non-magic folk," he explained.
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Sierra blinked...
...and then she blinked again.
Dear Merlin! Could the professor be anymore long-winded? She didn't think the woman would ever stop talking, but sure enough, she finally did. ...what had she said anyway? Oh, yeah...dark creatures. Sierra raised her hand. "They pretty much have no other reason to be here other than the fact they're just evil and want to cause harm," she said. "Dark creatures don't have a full life the way we do or a different kind of creature does. They're born of evil--like the boggart, which only shows up when fear does."
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Tori thought it was almost pointless to even bother answering at this point, but she popped her hand up anyway.
"Dark creatures are created by wizardkind with the intent to cause harm or otherwise spread evil in the world." She paused for a moment and then realized she had a question. "Do inferi count as dark creatures, professor, since they were originally humans?"
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Minerva was feeling kind of lost by this point. They were talking about what dark arts were and now people were bringing up dark creatures. What are dark creatures. She had so much to learn. Her hand was starting to hurt from writing so much.
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