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The DADA classroom is done in subtle shades of cream and brown. The chairs, set in neat concentric semi-circles, are the revolving, fixed-to-the-floor kind; and there is a fair gap between any two chairs. There is a whiteboard at the front of the classroom and, to its left, a neat little table that looks like it's made of glass.
Come in and take a seat. Professor Glass is not in the classroom, but she will be here in a few minutes.
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She raised her hand to answer the question but stopped when another student spoke first. She waited till he was finished before answering the points he raised.
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Wow, the professor just quoted Severus Snape. That was very impressive. Rafe loved it when professors incorporated legends into the lesson. "I think what people view as a dark creature, jump to conclusions. Society in both the muggle and magical world have misconstrued some of these creatures. Too many people jump to conclusions rather than getting a full understanding as to what got these creatures to be defined as 'dark.'" Rafe certainly was speaking from experience.
"Some of these so-called dark creatures have been persecuted for years, so I think over time they've developed more aggressive tendencies. For example, a unicorn wouldn't be considered a dark creature because they've been glamorized with how beautiful they look and how majestic they are. But, with any threat, they'd be just as aggressive as some of those labeled 'dark creatures." Rafe hoped his answer would suffice. It was probably going in the opposite direction of what the professor was talking about, but she did ask for their opinions.
Harlow raised her hand, "I don't think looks plays into a creature being dark or not dark. Thestrals aren't the most glamorous looking creatures, but they aren't dark at all. And they have a horrible reputation because you can't see them till you see someone die. But they are gentle and very useful. Looks can be deceiving. And aggression doesn't make a creature dark or not dark. Under pressure anyone can turn deadly. I think intent is what makes a creature dark. Unicorns don't intend to kill anyone but if threatened they can. Grindylows intend to kill you no matter if they are threatened or if you are just passing through" she said as she dropped her hand back on top of her desk.
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Raising her hand, Kimalia gave her opinion "I believe what makes a dark creature.. well, dark is not just for them having the intent to kill, but rather the enjoyment as well as being able to see their target's best emotions taken away.. Like with Dementor's they enjoy feeding off human souls and happiness."
Right. Emma thought. If she was going to sit here, she might as well try and answer one of the questions. It was better than dozing off anyway.
Raising her hand nervously - she didn't want to give a stupid answer - she interjected. "Maybe, Professor. The willingness of the creature work with dark witches or wizards also influences whether it is dark." Trying not to sound like an idiot to much, she clarified. For instance basilisks can only be controlled by a wizard or witch who speaks parseltongue, a known dark gift. Or otherwise," She added quickly. "Dementors have always been more keen to work with the dark than the good."
That was more than enough for now, she decided. Feeling proud of herself that she managed to get that all out in one go, she sighed and listened to the other suggestions.
Dark creatures...Kurumi frowned. They were a breed that Kurumi wished she could pretend that they were misunderstood - although she sometimes still felt so about kappas. "Professor, dark creatures differ from regular magical creatures in a few regards. One aspect is that they do not have what we would consider a life cycle. There is no cycle of birth, life, and death for them due to their existence being an extension of evil itself." She frowned a bit. Using terms like evil were always so...vague to her. "They are magical in nature, which is similar to all magical creatures, but they use those magical abilities to bring harm to others because that is what they do. While we may say that a lion is evil for hunting an antelope, they do so because they need to feed. Dark creatures will not. Red Caps are a prime example of this." She paused once again to take a breath. "It is important to remember that just because a creature may seem mean, it does not mean they are. Pixies can be annoying and bring harm to others through their tricks, but they are not Dark Creatures...just rude."
Wisteria was impressed by her in-depth description. Witsy never had a way with words. She always felt overwhelmed and when she thought to answer it just never came out right. Kurumi explained it well as she watched her answer. She looked her way and smiled...
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Wisteria Raised her hand and waited to be called, "Could it be simply put as dark creatures having negative intentions and non-dark creatures having civil intentions? Therefore it cover all grounds of creatures."
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Willaim raised his hand. Dark Creatures like Dementors hid their face and Boggarts his in closets so I beleive dark is their nature" Willaim told the professor. Non-dark creatures like house elves help the Wizarding World and I beleive Goblins can be good or bad, but not really dark" Willaim said to the professor. " The difference between the real bad dark creatures is daekness and the other non-dark creatures are seen by everyone" Willaim explained to the professor.
Witsy whispered from behind, "I have funny suspicions about this class."
Raising her hand, Aiden waits patiently for her turn. "Dark creatures are used to punish criminals too. Like the Dementors," her tone was uncertain. She wasn't really confident with that answer. But better give it a try.
Right. Emma thought. If she was going to sit here, she might as well try and answer one of the questions. It was better than dozing off anyway.
Raising her hand nervously - she didn't want to give a stupid answer - she interjected. "Maybe, Professor. The willingness of the creature work with dark witches or wizards also influences whether it is dark." Trying not to sound like an idiot to much, she clarified. For instance basilisks can only be controlled by a wizard or witch who speaks parseltongue, a known dark gift. Or otherwise," She added quickly. "Dementors have always been more keen to work with the dark than the good."
That was more than enough for now, she decided. Feeling proud of herself that she managed to get that all out in one go, she sighed and listened to the other suggestions.
Chris looked to his right at Emma and realized that she looked very tired. Oh well, he thought, I guess I'll just have to take really good notes... Maybe Emma would be more awake later for him to let her copy the notes, or, if she wasn't, then he would just copy them for her...
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Sarani, who had been sitting on the edge of the glass table throughout the discussion, raised a hand for silence.
"The Dark Arts are all manifestations of magic - both tangible and intangible - whose primary purpose is to harm. This includes spells, equipment, potions, creatures and practices. There are two fixed attributes of each dark art: its power is proportional to the degree of malicious intent, meaning its power decreases with a decrease in malicious intent and it is never possible to utilize it to its fullest extent unless one wants to maim; and sooner or later, it corrupts."
"Prefect Erised raised a valid point. Too often, what is 'dark' is not the magic, but the wizard or witch behind it. Miss Denver and Mr. Carter mentioned a few spells, including the levitation charm. Using levitation to drop someone off the edge of a cliff would be a good example of a wizard or witch using a simple spell to cause harm. What ensures the Levitation Charm is not dark magic, then, is the fact that it can be utilized to its maximum potential without having to intend to cause harm. The Cruciatus Curse, on the other hand, cannot be used to induce pain if the caster does not enjoy causing the target pain."
"Miss Gwydion and Miss Trewhella both brought up excellent questions. When is the use of dark arts justifiable? Is it justifiable? To answer your question, Miss Trewhella, aurors were allowed to use Unforgivables during the two wizardings wars and, in some parts of the magical world, can still do so. Bear in mind, however, that law enforcement trainees must study both non-lethal and less-lethal magic. This means that, until and unless they have no other option, law enforcement personnel are required to opt for alternatives. It is my belief that a dark witch or wizard is not one who would use an Unforgivable; it is one who would use an Unforgivable for the sake of using one." The class was free to differ. No one ever got anywhere by agreeing to everything their instructors believed in.
"The important thing to remember is that, while intent can make a simple spell harmful, that is an example of a witch or wizard moulding a spell to his or her own needs. The Dark Arts, in themselves, are all forms of magic that require malicious intent to be utilized to their maximum potential, and whose endpoint is corruption. People who use the Killing Curse on a regular basis will lose the ability to empathize." Might as well throw that out there. Food for thought.
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Adam had been writing down in his notebook what Professor Glass had been saying about Dark Magic. He had to admit he hadn't been expecting their first lesson to be so...well...dark, but he had to admit he found the subject interesting. After all it was kind of interesting to understand the other side of the spectrum, especially because not everyone and everything was rainbows and sunshine, and one couldn't expect to be able to defend themselves properly without being knowledgeable about all aspects of magic.
Most of the students had said what Adam had been thinking, but he figured it wouldn't hurt to contribute his thoughts. "Dark creatures are creatures that feed on light or happiness, and they come in multiple different forms such as Dementors. However aren't some creatures that are associated with death, like thestrals, also seen as Dark creatures even though they technically don't harm anyone?"
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Valeria raised an eyebrow questioningly as someone mentioned that thestrals are Dark Creatures. She wondered how that could be, as she had read that they don't harm people. Maybe it was due to the fact that only people who've seen someone died can see thestrals. Valeria decided that she should ask anyway.
"Professor.." She called out as she raised her hand. "Why are thestrals considered as Dark creatures when they are don't harm people?"
Wisteria was impressed by her in-depth description. Witsy never had a way with words. She always felt overwhelmed and when she thought to answer it just never came out right. Kurumi explained it well as she watched her answer. She looked her way and smiled...
Wisteria Raised her hand and waited to be called, "Could it be simply put as dark creatures having negative intentions and non-dark creatures having civil intentions? Therefore it cover all grounds of creatures."
Witsy whispered from behind, "I have funny suspicions about this class."
"Willaim smiled at Witsy. He does not want to lose any more points for talking. Hopefully witsy will understand William's silence/
Luna raised her hand ''Dark creatures are animals but with a bit of a twist I suppose they attack and they're more fierce then a normel animal!'' said Luna
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Allaine's hand shot into the air. "I think, essentially, dark creatures are those that are related to supposedly "dark" aspects. They can either harm or simply cause discomfort at a high level to people. That's why thestrals are categorized as dark, because not many people feel too comfortable with death, and thestrals are related to death, aren't they?"
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Allaine's hand shot into the air. "I think, essentially, dark creatures are those that are related to supposedly "dark" aspects. They can either harm or simply cause discomfort at a high level to people. That's why thestrals are categorized as dark, because not many people feel too comfortable with death, and thestrals are related to death, aren't they?"
Nodding at the Gryffindor's point of argument, Michelle raised her hand to ask another question, "But isn't it ironic though, professor, that dark creatures are quite predominant in our society? It's uses anyway, like the dementors in azkaban and thestrals at hogwarts despite," while nodding at the first year, "their causing discomfit in everyone. Why is that so?"
"This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
Sage could remember reading something about this when looking through her Dark Arts book. She raised her hand to answer the question,
"A Dark creature is different from a regular creature because they exist from a physical extention from a evil intention and they only seek out harm to others," Sage said, reciting her book. It was the only one she had read through a bit....
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Lucy was very excited about this class to start as she heard the professor calling out for the first question of the very first class of DADA in her seventh year. Woo! There was a lot of excitement in the class.
Lucy thought for a while and then said "Professor, Dark arts is also known as dark magic. There is not definition for dark arts. But it is a type of magic that is mainly used by wizards to cause harm. Also the practice of dark arts is illegal" she said and brought her hand down.
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Nodding at the Gryffindor's point of argument, Michelle raised her hand to ask another question, "But isn't it ironic though, professor, that dark creatures are quite predominant in our society? It's uses anyway, like the dementors in azkaban and thestrals at hogwarts despite," while nodding at the first year, "their causing discomfit in everyone. Why is that so?"
"Well, in this case the use of dark creatures could be called a 'necessary evil'," offered Allaine. "Dementors are used as prison guards because they're impartial, unemotional that is, can't be bribed, are a threat against committing crimes - mentions of Azkaban can easily put the fear of Merlin in anyone, can they? And thestrals... well, most people can't see them, and they aren't at all harmful, so there isn't really any danger in using them as horsepower."
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Sarani, who had been sitting on the edge of the glass table throughout the discussion, raised a hand for silence.
"The Dark Arts are all manifestations of magic - both tangible and intangible - whose primary purpose is to harm. This includes spells, equipment, potions, creatures and practices. There are two fixed attributes of each dark art: its power is proportional to the degree of malicious intent, meaning its power decreases with a decrease in malicious intent and it is never possible to utilize it to its fullest extent unless one wants to maim; and sooner or later, it corrupts."
"Prefect Erised raised a valid point. Too often, what is 'dark' is not the magic, but the wizard or witch behind it. Miss Denver and Mr. Carter mentioned a few spells, including the levitation charm. Using levitation to drop someone off the edge of a cliff would be a good example of a wizard or witch using a simple spell to cause harm. What ensures the Levitation Charm is not dark magic, then, is the fact that it can be utilized to its maximum potential without having to intend to cause harm. The Cruciatus Curse, on the other hand, cannot be used to induce pain if the caster does not enjoy causing the target pain."
"Miss Gwydion and Miss Trewhella both brought up excellent questions. When is the use of dark arts justifiable? Is it justifiable? To answer your question, Miss Trewhella, aurors were allowed to use Unforgivables during the two wizardings wars and, in some parts of the magical world, can still do so. Bear in mind, however, that law enforcement trainees must study both non-lethal and less-lethal magic. This means that, until and unless they have no other option, law enforcement personnel are required to opt for alternatives. It is my belief that a dark witch or wizard is not one who would use an Unforgivable; it is one who would use an Unforgivable for the sake of using one." The class was free to differ. No one ever got anywhere by agreeing to everything their instructors believed in.
"The important thing to remember is that, while intent can make a simple spell harmful, that is an example of a witch or wizard moulding a spell to his or her own needs. The Dark Arts, in themselves, are all forms of magic that require malicious intent to be utilized to their maximum potential, and whose endpoint is corruption. People who use the Killing Curse on a regular basis will lose the ability to empathize." Might as well throw that out there. Food for thought.
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word.
"This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
As Beezus didn't have any questions. Which much she doubts but as of now, she thinks those questions would be answered once they progress with their lesson.
She raised her hand to give her idea regarding the question given and so when it was her time to speak, she stood up. "Professor, I think a dark creature differs from one that is not in their thirst and crave to cause harm. Dark creatures like pain and inflicting damage to others without apparent reason. Not unlike other magical creatures who harm but does it for also their sake." said Beatrice. "Take for example the manticore, it kills to have something to eat. But banshees do not. They scream to kill because it is of their pleasure. They are physical embodiment of harmful intent, thus they are very much associated with Dark Magic." There were a lot of dark creatures inhabiting the world. How Beezus knew all that, was through her books. Of course, she just doesn't let her books sleep in their common rooms.
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Nodding at the Gryffindor's point of argument, Michelle raised her hand to ask another question, "But isn't it ironic though, professor, that dark creatures are quite predominant in our society? It's uses anyway, like the dementors in azkaban and thestrals at hogwarts despite," while nodding at the first year, "their causing discomfit in everyone. Why is that so?"
"Thestrals were not a dark creatures." said Raven cold. "But many people can't see it. Only person who ever saw someone's death able to see thestrals."
"When you go out into the practical world, however, fixed definitions will be the last thing on your mind - and that is as it should be." Yes. Sarani did not like definitions. "You are here to learn to defend yourselves against that which is varied, ever-changing and eternal -" To quote the infamous Severus Snape - "But, before that, you are here to defend yourselves." And defend was a big word. "This means that your course will include both basic and advanced defensive magic. If you have questions, raise your hand and ask. If you don't, who can tell how a dark creature differs from a creature that isn't dark?"
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After thinking about the Professor's question for a while Nessie raised her hand and waited her turn."Well a dark creature will be a creature that wants to hurt others even just for the sake of doing so, where as normal creatures will only harm if they are harmed themselves first." She had guesed most of what she had said,butit sounded sort of right.
"Well, in this case the use of dark creatures could be called a 'necessary evil'," offered Allaine. "Dementors are used as prison guards because they're impartial, unemotional that is, can't be bribed, are a threat against committing crimes - mentions of Azkaban can easily put the fear of Merlin in anyone, can they?
Michelle listened attentively, "That's a good point! Sounds like dark creatures CAN be a necessary evil. Kinda raises the question that dark creatures are not as bad as we label them to be?"
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And thestrals... well, most people can't see them, and they aren't at all harmful, so there isn't really any danger in using them as horsepower."
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"Thestrals were not a dark creatures." said Raven cold. "But many people can't see it. Only person who ever saw someone's death able to see thestrals."
Getting to the thestral part, Michelle recalled, "There were never really any official literature saying the winged horses were Dark..thestrals were only mentioned as bad omens. But they are so connected to Death, maybe that's why people are saying they may cause harm?"
"Dark Creatures are creatures that could be perceived as evil or a aberration such as vampires and werewolves. Where as a non-dark creature would not be such like unicorns."
"Dark Creatures are creatures that could be perceived as evil or a aberration such as vampires and werewolves. Where as a non-dark creature would not be such like unicorns."
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At the mention of werewolves Lexi's head shot up and she looked around for the person that had used that as an example of Dark creatures. Her lips tugged down into a frown and she raised her hand. "It is my humble opinion that not ALL werewolves are violent and intend to cause harm. I merely think that a few rotten apples have given the whole lot a bad name." Mhm. Headmaster Pepe was NOT a bad guy. He surely wasn't Dark. Neither was Professor Lupa.
At the mention of werewolves Lexi's head shot up and she looked around for the person that had used that as an example of Dark creatures. Her lips tugged down into a frown and she raised her hand. "It is my humble opinion that not ALL werewolves are violent and intend to cause harm. I merely think that a few rotten apples have given the whole lot a bad name." Mhm. Headmaster Pepe was NOT a bad guy. He surely wasn't Dark. Neither was Professor Lupa.
Nessie looked at the girl who contridicted her.
"I didn't mean to offend. That was just some dark creatures that I know off the top of my head. I know that not all are necessarily evil." Nessie turned to Professor Glass.
"What exactly makes a creature considered 'evil'? Where's the cut off point? What make a Dementor more terrible than a Centaur? Who's to judge that? To me it seems wrong to judge a creature like that. It's just in their nature." Nessie crossed her arms around her chest. She always had high sympathy for those who were out casted. These 'dark' creature were obviously no exception. You could say she was Naive but to her she was open minded.
Hmm Dark creatures, well they were creatures that weren't light. Yep brilliant answer. She listened to some of the other students, pushing her quill around on her desk. It seemed like they had pretty much covered everything, maybe she could still add something though.
"Well Dark creatures are animals that cause harm, but almost all animals do or can cause harm in some way. What makes a Dark creature different is they cause harm just" she paused why did they do that, for the fun of it? "just for the sake of doing it, while other animals do it to survive." And dark animals were pretty scary looking,but no need to repeat that, she didn't think Professor Glass would appreciate twenty of the same answers. Looking back down at her page she realized it was practically blank and started jotting down what they'd talked about so far...
At the mention of werewolves Lexi's head shot up and she looked around for the person that had used that as an example of Dark creatures. Her lips tugged down into a frown and she raised her hand. "It is my humble opinion that not ALL werewolves are violent and intend to cause harm. I merely think that a few rotten apples have given the whole lot a bad name." Mhm. Headmaster Pepe was NOT a bad guy. He surely wasn't Dark. Neither was Professor Lupa.
When Lexi pipped up about not all werewolves being violent she couldn't help but agree. It depended on the character of the turned witch, wizard, or muggle...she'd heard of cases of muggles being turned - but in her own thought she sometimes wondered if they were actually from a long line of Squibs. That could make it more probable for the 'curse' to stick.
"A good example of not all werewolves being 'bad' is Wilhelm the Were-man...he was at the carnival this year and I felt wretched for going in there...but he seemed like a very kind and gentle person...all be it - furry. But if you think of the fact that werewolves have a bit of Canis Lupis - the regular wolf in them...and wolves are what all Kanines or dogs come from its no wonder some people handle the curse better." And that was a long long long no-breath-speach.
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Nessie looked at the girl who contridicted her.
"I didn't mean to offend. That was just some dark creatures that I know off the top of my head. I know that not all are necessarily evil." Nessie turned to Professor Glass.
"What exactly makes a creature considered 'evil'? Where's the cut off point? What make a Dementor more terrible than a Centaur? Who's to judge that? To me it seems wrong to judge a creature like that. It's just in their nature." Nessie crossed her arms around her chest. She always had high sympathy for those who were out casted. These 'dark' creature were obviously no exception. You could say she was Naive but to her she was open minded.
India looked over to the girl who had piped up - so she was the one who had unintentionally offended Lexi. The question the girl posed wasn't a bad one - but it didn't seem like she had fully thought it out.
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Hmm Dark creatures, well they were creatures that weren't light. Yep brilliant answer. She listened to some of the other students, pushing her quill around on her desk. It seemed like they had pretty much covered everything, maybe she could still add something though.
"Well Dark creatures are animals that cause harm, but almost all animals do or can cause harm in some way. What makes a Dark creature different is they cause harm just" she paused why did they do that, for the fun of it? "just for the sake of doing it, while other animals do it to survive." And dark animals were pretty scary looking,but no need to repeat that, she didn't think Professor Glass would appreciate twenty of the same answers. Looking back down at her page she realized it was practically blank and started jotting down what they'd talked about so far...
Still - she waited to see if someone else would answer - and it seemed that this girl did. Hello smart person. She had to agree - some dark creatures had malintent but others like werewolves didn't intend to do what they did.
It wasn't a dementors intent to suck out your soul or happiness that was just how the fed. And that was how she thought of her answer. "Well - if you look at a Dementor" she smiled, "you will feel your happines drainging yes? Its not that they intend to do so - some do, some don't as Lexi brought up about werewolves. However - the Dementors are a different story they feed on sorrow so you feel sorrow around them and cold because they are in all things very comparable to depression." Maybe that helped maybe it didn't.
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