Kayla turned back to Lyra and giggled. "Which ones do you know and we'll discuss those ones instead." Oh Merlin, listen to her as though she was some sort of brainiac. She was just thankful that Lyra was behaving herself...for once!!

She turned back to Jake as he spoke once again. "Hmm...then what is the point of the lesson if we can't assume what he was thinking at the time? We have the facts on the back of the card and going from what it says, you have to assume that he was anti-muggle" Kayla raised an eyebrow at Jake. "Our feelings don't come into it, we have to go by the facts that are presented before us...no?"

Seeing Mariska smile again, Robert looked down at the desk and focused on the grain of the wood thoughtfully. As she spoke he looked up again thankful for the distraction, "I'd say paranoid. I can't see the man having that many enemies...I mean look at him." He reached over and flipped the card over to the wizards face and laughed.

Lyra smiled and held out her hand to greet Robert's. "I'm Lyra Noir, Hufflepuff extraordinaire and a nosy busy body," she began with a snicker and a smirk. Now that she was on the Quill, she became even more of a nosy student. "What would you do if you had a real sneakoscope? Do you have that many dishonest people around you?" That question couldn't be helped, she just had to ask it.

Lyra took the hand that was offered to her. "Hi Rian. I'm Lyra. Well, Lyra #2. Lyra Noir is Lyra #1, mostly since she's older and has been here longer and because she came up with the idea." 'Why am I rambling?' she thought. "You're a Claw, too, right? I think I saw you in the girl's dormitory earlier."

Lyra was angy, but held her temper in. She took a deep breath before responding. "Yes, everyone has different opinions, but that doesn't mean everyone was right. I think we've gotten to a point in our history where we can say for certain that everyone is equal- no matter what their background. And yes, I consider hiding a deadly baslisk in a school as somewhat backwards." Lyra was proud of herself for not loosing her temper and for behaving like an adult.

Lyra then turned to Copernicus (OOC- I forgot to quote you!). "Oh, I think you misunderstood me. I'm sure some Slytherins have the right qualities to be in Ravenclaw, and vice versa. But, they obviously would rather be in Slytherin, or they wouldn't be there. I think it would be unfair to place all the other students in the house the want to be in except the people who would have chosen Slytherin, if they had had a choice."

Robert laughed and shook her hand, "Well at least you're honest. Pleasure to meet you Lyra." He let go of her hand and leaned against the desk, "Play pranks on my friends would be top of the list.... I think I'd get a kick out of catching them being dishonest. I'm sure it can come in handy though..." He trailed off not bothering to answer the last part or even acknowledging there had been a question. Instead he leaned back in his chair and looked at her with a smile, "So, Lyra, what do you think of that Ptolemy guy? Muggle or anti-muggle?"

"Sure, its like the question on the board says; I think you can speculate alot about a person based on world events in their lifetime." Cela pointed out.

"Celandine Toussaint." Cela clarified when Tobi introduced her to the slytherin girl.



"I have one." Celandine piped up overhearing Lyra.She looked over at Kayla, "It came in really handy when all those ministry professors were everywhere at Belle's."

Lyra looked up to where Kayla was sitting and tilted her head to the side. "Well, there is Wendelin the Weird," she began with a slight giggle. "I mean she was burned at the stake so much that it tickled for her and here she was telling everyone that she was a witch and look what they did." She shivered slightly to the thought of muggles condemning witches and wizards.
Lyra snickered once again. "Playing pranks, a human encyclopedia, an avid book reader" she paused and raised a brow, "and likes to avoid certain questions? I'm glad we have re-met, Robert." She couldn't help but wink then shake her head and look back to the card in her hand. "Definitely pro-muggle."

"There have been authors over the years who have written specifically to their audience and to the times. If she was responding to public demand, or to what she saw as public demand, then her own like or dislike of Muggles wouldn't be reflected. She would simply write to what she thought they wanted to hear. Very good point," Copernicus agreed.

"And I also agree that she was trying to change the world, in her own way. To make it happier and simpler and more child friendly, even if she went about it in a way that scraped all the beauty and honesty from it. So I don't know if she changed the world, but I think she wanted to."

Now of course Cela had to pipe up and say that didn't she. Kayla returned Cela's look and bit her lip to keep from laughing. "And did it work Celandine" she knew very well that it did because there was now way Kayla would ever have a faulty sneakascope.

Kayla had to giggle as well. "So we can safely assume that Wendelin, was pro-muggle. Seeing how she liked being caught and burnt at the stake by them" she placed her chin on her hand and looked at Lyra.

Jake looked back up. "But you just totally contradicted yourself by assuming something based on your feelings and opinions, which is what all assumptions are based upon. So if feelings don't come into it, you can't make that assumption. The facts are that he was driven away by muggles and that he created a wizarding village. There's nothing else."

Black and white. He suddenly felt a little uncomfortable working in a situation where they had to discuss. Things could quickly turn into debates, and escalate to arguments. Jake tried not to think about the issue too much after that.

Jake sighed. Totally not my day.

"I never said everyone was right, nor did I deny everyone was equal," he explained. "And I for one was referring to what you called his 'backwards beliefs' and hiding a Basilisk in the school was indeed totally wrong, but it was an action he took based on the beliefs, not the beliefs themselves. I only commented on the fact that I don't believe it's fair to say he had backwards beliefs," Jake shrugged. It was all he'd meant, he thought it would be understood.

Mari laughed a little at Roberts answer, thinking it an odd way to explain himself. " Well, I can see paranoid. He's got a rather...untrusting look to him. " She said, examining the card again. " Perhaps he was a man in a position of power, and therefore he had to make sure that he could trust those around him. Of course, having power probably made him paranoid to begin with..." She trailed off as she realized she was babbling on and on. " So. I guess we agree then. Edgar Stroulger's paranoia gave us the Sneakoscope." She said, flipping the card over again.

Quote:

Pro-Muggle or Anti-Muggle?

Did they change the world?

What was happening in history during their lifetime and how might it have influenced their actions?

Tobi copied it down on piece of parchment with ample room to scribble in notes.

"Here's my thought on this guy," he said to Whitney, "Like many people who make a living off the generousity of the public, he probably wasn't picky, Celadine is probably right, he probably performed for Muggles and Wizards alike. It says he's a Wizard tap dancer, but that doesn't mean he didn't have contact with Muggles; it's kind of unavoidable, at the very least, he wouldn't have been Anti-Muggle. At best he would have been Pro-Muggle."

Robert smirked and shrugged, "Consider me a jack of all trades. And..." he raised his eyebrow to match with a smirk, "not everything in my life is up for discussion or else it wouldn't be a personal life and hence the avoiding questions bit." He laughed and nodded, "I'm glad we have too, Lyra. I believe if not for Paris we wouldn't have had to re-meet but...that's a topic for another day." He looked at her and smirked as he caught her wink and watched her look at the card, "I'd say so too. I don't think it's possible to become any more pro-muggle."

Robert laughed, "That's one way to look at it and you're probably right. It seems that most men with power get paranoid at some point and do strange things. Muggle and wizard a like actually." He looked at her and smiled, "Yes I guess we agree..." he trailed off as he looked down at the top of the desk again and ran his fingers over it.

*Gabben bent down and pulled up a frog. The frog jumped and moved at odd times. It was all Gabben could do to keep his hands on it.*

"Okay fair enough" Kayla replied. "But it says on the card he was driven out of his home by muggle persecutors and then he created an all wizarding village. Doesn't that tell you right there, that he didn't like muggles?"

*Only a few seats away Gabben heard Kayla.*
"Not really, it might only mean that he knew it would be safer for him to have a muggle free village. Less questions and fighting. All muggles and humans for that matter seem to fear and kill anything they don't understand."
*He shrugged.* "Sorry, didn't mean to butt in."

Sitting down on the top of her desk, she starts eating her frog, Liz looks down at her card, Mungo Bonham, hmmm, that name sounds familiar... she thinks to herself.

Holding on to the legs of the frog, while munching on to the rest of the frog, having only the legs left, that is. She reaches down and picks up her bag, from by her chair.

Sticking the rest of the chocolate frog into her mouth, she reaches down into her bag, and pulls out a book of famous people in Magical history. Flipping through she starts looking for Mungo Bonham.

"I think its amazing that her works have the power to make people react so violently." Cela noted, bouncing the tiniest bit from eating the chocolate frog. "Now that is magic worth preserving on a chocolate frog card."

"Of course." Cela agreed somewhat gravely, "We didn't get caught did we?" She grinned brightly and noted the conversation she was having with Lyra.

"Wendelin the weird might not have been pro-muggle. Just Pro-fire. Or anti-muggle since she used a flame freezing charm to stop herself from being burned more than forty times; maybe she liked how uncomfortable it made the muggles that were trying to burn her, maybe she liked making them question their beliefs."

Cela was totally in the mood to question everything, "Maybe he was Anti-Muggle and disappeared because the authorities were on to his plots to bring down the muggle world."

"I like that! Tobi." she said a little too loud. Then he introduced someone else. A girl. "Hello Celadine I'm Whitney. It's nice to meet you." Formal meetings were so....formal.

"Oh well then....maybe he wasn't deserving?" Whitney was so confused now. She turned back to the professor.

"Sir?" she started,raising her hand, "What exactly do you consider deserving? What would the standards be?" Because a vanishing performer wasn't all that great,not to her anyways.
"I should clarify my name huh? It's Whitney Ash-" she started but had to stop mid sentence.Was she hearing wrong? "I'm sorry did you say Toussaint? As in Nicholai Toussaint's sister?" Was that even possible? She knew he had a sister but hadn't actually thought of meeting her. "Isn't that just lovely. I love your name by the way. As I was saying, I am Whitney Ashford." Nothing memorable about her name. 'Nico.' she thought,still not able to get over meeting his sister.

"I agree with that too. Only, from what we know,Xavier didn't do much."

Ana catch a chocolate frog and ate the chocolate. She turned over the card to see who she got. Wow she thought. "Albus Dumbledore" she whispered. Ana continue to listen her classmates.

Mariska nodded. " Very true," She said in response to his comparison of Muggles to Wizards. " I mean, there's so much more to lose when one has even a modicum of power, when you think of it." She mused. She looked at her own card and then laughed. " Perpetua Fancourt. Inventor of...the Lunascope. Hmm. I suppose that might be helpful if you've got a friend or family member who is a werewolf, actually." She said, unsure of why else the woman would have invented it. " Or, she was just a very avid astronomer," She said, shrugging as she handed Robert her card.

James opened the doors into the classroom and was slightly taken aback with the number of students in the class. He saw the sign and frowned before taking off his shoes and socks. He took a vacant spot that was near the door. His head turned from left to right, looking for any familiar faces.

"Hmmm, let's see" Liz says quietly, and pulls out a piece of parchment from her bag, and starts writing down notes from what she found on the back of the card, and from her book.

Mungo Bonham (1560 - 1659) is a wizard who founded St. Mungo's. He once was a healer.

Seeing an asterik mark next to St. Mungo's she turns to page 488, where the asterik said to go. And found more information.

St Mungo's Hospital for Magical Maladies and Injuries is a wizarding hospital in London, England. It was founded by famous Healer Mungo Bonham in the 1600s. The emblem of St Mungo's is a wand crossed with a bone.

Wow she thinks looking up. I never really knew much about how St. Mungo's was founded...

Spotting James come in, she gives a little wave.

Lyra felt a little bad about jumping down this boy's throat. "I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I just... I just think that their can be opinions that are just wrong, especially when they're based on hate towards other people, which, in my opinion, Slytherin's were."

"And also look at the time period she was in," Lyra began as she looked down at her fingers playing with her own card as they discussed someone else. "A time when it was horribly wrong to be known as a witch or wizard, think of those who really were not from our world and told the truth." She paused as she gasped for air. "It didn't tickle for them."

Yes there were moments when she could be serious and it seemed to happen more often than before. She was changing from what she used to be before. To her, there was a part of her life that was nothing but serious, which brought on the need to pull pranks and be who she was now, but she was learning to just be herself. That was weird.

Lyra turned to look at the girl who was on the other side of Robert and listened to her answer. She was also a Ravenclaw. "I do like your way of thinking," she added to the conversation. She never went into detail about the one who created the sneakoscope but she was rather impressed by the answer that the girl gave.

Lyra pressed her lips together and raised both eyebrows to what Robert was speaking. That was a door he did not want to open and it was a good thing anyway, they were in class. "Ahh, Paris," she said as she rolled her eyes. That was one girl she just couldn't put her finger on. She didn't consider her a best friend but yet she would never become an enemy, if Lyra had her way about things. But Robert also believed the card she possessed in her hand was also one that could be added to the pro-muggle board.

"So what are your veiws on Wendelin the Weird?" If she was going to discuss with one, she would discuss with another as well.
Lyra looked up to find Cela speaking to her and she smiled. This girl was quite fun and strange, which made her like her even more. "Oy! Someone needs to tell about the Ministry professors sometime," she began with a sigh. "I was not here and really want to hear what happened." Now that was a time she knew she would have been angry if she stayed behind at that time. She was more than happy to have missed out on that part.

"So what would have made her anti-muggle?" She wanted to hear what Cela had to say about Wendelin the Weird and gather her view on things as well. It was always good to weigh out one side before sticking to one side.