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Arranged in its usual state, the door to the Potions Classroom was once again open for the day's lesson. On top of each workstation are your typical Potions materials and tools ready to be used.
Up ahead, Healer Reed can be seen leaning against the blackboard, hands stuffed into his trousers' pockets waiting for his students to arrive. Roscoe and Bumi can be seen lounging on the side, proudly wearing their Red Cross badges around their necks.
No time to dilly-dally! Come in and let's start brewing!
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Oh. OH. Katy perked up considerably at the name of the potion. She was keen on poisons and antidotes, and she'd blown through most of the textbook versions available. But a real, honest-to-goodness antidote, hospital grade... that was new. Interesting.
"You know, sir, the thing about poisons is that you have to have the perfect antidote to counteract them. You have to spend precious moments determining what the poison is so you can administer the exact right antidote. And the rarer and more uncommon the poison, the less likely it is that you'll have the antidote or the ingredients you need to brew one. So a potion like this means you don't have to waste that time or lose your patient," Katy practically beamed as her words tripped out. She hadn't been this engaged since... well... it had been a while.
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Oh, okay. Made much more sense than the direction his textbook was leading him in.
Ronan scribbled the new information into his notes and then thought about the professor's question for a second. "Usually, a creature uses their poisonous secretions as a form of defense. Like when a venomous snake bites someone, it's usually because they feel threatened. And what would make one uncommon would be that it's something you don't typically run into everyday, like a King Cobra." Not that was the only way one would run into a poison. "Also, some people use poisons as a way to get rid of pests, like ants or rats. Then, there are your weed killers......" But that went more into Herbology and this wasn't that.
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Mmkay, well...she had sort of got the answer right. The professor seemed pleased with what she'd said, at least, so Maddie beamed at him and nodded. This potion sounded like coffee! Maybe it was wizarding coffee or something! Maybe it was a coffee brew like the kind her mom and dad drank! Maybe. Maybe. MAYBE.
Uhhh...okay, no. It was some antidote to a poison, which sounded kind of complicated. As complicated as that question the Healer!Professor had just asked. HUHHHHHH? Oh, oh, OHHHHH. She raised her hand in the air. Wait...NO. She was thinking of something Herbology-related, like the poisons used to kill weeds. "I don't think there are any benefits to poisons, Professor," she said, with a disappointed tone in her voice. "...and maybe a poison is uncommon, because people don't know enough about it."
Back in his seat next to Hattie with their ingredients, Olly was really trying to pay attention to the next part of the lesson. The problem was that it was just talking and he was not the best at listening to that. He'd liked the running around and finding ingredients. He was looking forward to the brewing part too, but unfortunately there was this boring part in the middle. No, he had no idea what they could be brewing. The fireseeds were confusing him. Didn't they explode? It seemed like a dangerous seem to ingest. He really did not want his insides to explode.
It was apparently an antidote to uncommon poisons. Which was different than an antidote to common poisons, apparently. Why couldn't one antidote suffice? This just complicated the whole thing. And no, he didn't have an answer. All he knew about uncommon poisons was that they were...well...uncommon. Which meant they were used less often than the common ones.
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UM helloooooooooo did anyone notice that Professor Healer Reed just ignored Zoryn’s answer all together? Um. HOW RUDE! The Gryffindor was SHOOK. That wasn’t fair at all!! Her answer was SOOOOO serious. Why else would a potion call for ingredients like leaves, salt, and berry juice? What other reason than a salad potion!?! Hmph. Zoryn thought her answer was VERY clever and was VERY offended that it wasn’t taken seriously. As for the antidote stuff, yeah suppose that might work too. BUT STILL. Salad potion sounded like more fun.
Anyways, she tried not to think about it too much ‘cause they were moving on and despite what Professor Healer Reed was probably thinking, Zoryn really was trying her best to keep up here.
The next two questions were strange ones and Zoryn didn’t actually have answers immediately. Her answer for the stuff about uncommon potions was basically a sum up of what everyone else said. Probably called ‘em uncommon poisons because they weren’t common, right? Even potioneers had to have some sense of humor.
But the stuff about poison benefits… Zoryn had to agree with Jessa 100%. “Easy way to off someone without using an unforgivable. That way it’s totally legal,” right? Maybe? Zoryn didn’t know how the law worked.
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Eddie may have missed the getting a partner, not because he didn't hear, but because he didn't work well with others. He liked being alone and the activity just didn't even interest him. Who let the healer teach potions anyway? He didn't really think the man would give him anything he could use. He wasn't interested in any type of healing potions, Edward Blaze Jr. would never be healing anyone.
So instead of doing what the healer said he sat in his chair and jotted down the ingredients, once he gathered things he put a hand on his chin and leaned in his seat. His eyes soon growing heavy and his face soon hitting the table. He may have stayed up a bit to late reading about snakes and now the boy was tired and since he assumed they'd be learning something to help someone not harm he let himself fall asleep.
Patrick looked at the other students after retrieving his ingridents for the potion. He listened intently to Professor Reed explain the lesson as he recalled what he and Dahlia had found. He wanted to do well, and he wanted to learn as much as possible.
Ahhh, they were going to be making a antidote to poisons... that seemed like a fun thing to do. He raised his hand to answer the question regarding why you would make such an antidote. "Wouldn't that be because the uncommon poisons aren't well known or seen so rarely that we aren't sure how to fix them?" he mumbled not sure his answer was going to be correct.
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An Antidote! Well yeah that can be what a Counter Curse is in potion form innit? And Hospital Grade, wow. This is gonna be some pretty important brewing today mmhm oh boy he cant wait.
Benefits to poisons though? Ok first thought was the nefarious response, the kind supervillains would usually say. But this is Hogwarts not Durmstrang, so gonna table that response for another time. "Professor, there are some venom from creatures like snakes and spiders that are poisonous, but these are extracted from them because they serve to create antidotes to these same venom. Sometimes the extraction themselves serve as ingredients to another cure to a completely unrelated disease."
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Interested in what her classmates, and of course Professor-side-Healer had to say, Luci thought about the question of what benefits poisons bring. Couldn't think of any, just crazy painful effects of many. Shyly, she raised her hand, "Poisons weaken, even kill. So, guessing from the latter, there are specific plants, weeds, animal blood, combinations of them that some have used to make poisons, unknown to common knowledge like ours, even professional..." Sigh. Just a guess.
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Okay, so it is a healing potion but not being used for healing pain. Hmmmm... Well, it was just a random guess. Then Healer Reed announced that they're going to brew an antidote to uncommon poison. Uncommon, huh? It was interesting that the potion master/healer gave them the formula that commonly used in infirmaries. Guess that it was a plus point of being a healer who also taught potions.
And moving on to next question: what makes an uncommon poison became uncommon? Ava raised her hand as she gave an opinion about that. "Sir, I think what makes a poison uncommon is because of the dose. I mean, plenty of substances have healing properties at exact dose, but it can be poisonous if we use it more." The Gryffindor did remember her father (or sister?) mentioned about that.
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"For today, we will be brewing an Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Now this, I know, is very different from the ones written on your textbooks. That's because this formula is used in infirmaries like the Hospital Wing or St Mungo's." he said turning his back against the class, tapping the board once more to reveal more information. "Before we begin to brew this potion, what do you think is or are the benefits of poisons? And...what makes an uncommon poison, uncommon?"
Taking notes while raising your hand was like the epitome of multitasking, wasn't it? Cameron couldn't think of ANYTHING more complicated to coordinate. Not right now anyway. But then again he WAS busy writing things down and not trying to forget his answer so naturally, his brain wasn't really up for yet ANOTHER task.
Either way, here he was, raising his hand.
Once it was his turn Cameron stopped writing and looked up. "I think maybe uncommon poisons can be used to counteract something? Another poison maybe. And they're fabricated, so they don't actually exist in nature." It was worth a shot. Plus, Reed had said it was used in hospitals. Yes? No? "But then eventually you obviously need an antidote for that too." Which was what they were brewing.
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"Indeed, it can Mr Edwards." He said beaming this time towards his other apprentice. "Most toxins can be cured by a simple common antidote, however, there are some toxins that are hard to get rid off simply because it has fooled the immune system of the host." Or victim, in this case. "Thus, introducing a carefully balanced antidote with a toxic element, to the system is required to counter such effects. Fooling the fool, if I may add."
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"For today, we will be brewing an Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Now this, I know, is very different from the ones written on your textbooks. That's because this formula is used in infirmaries like the Hospital Wing or St Mungo's." he said turning his back against the class, tapping the board once more to reveal more information. "Before we begin to brew this potion, what do you think is or are the benefits of poisons? And… what makes an uncommon poison, uncommon?"
Remy nodded his head as the Healer commented on his answer. Hmm, so that was incredibly interesting - though it did make sense. If something so toxic as a poison had made it into a person’s blood stream, surely some hugs wouldn’t get rid of it.. No, they would need an antidote that would physically kick and fight the toxin’s to win. Hmm. Hello little MMA fighters, fighting the good fight. Heh. No, focus.
Waiting for his turn, Remy wrote down notes from all of his classmates - at least the ones that he felt were anywhere near where the Professor was going with this lesson. A few suggestions made his own brain tick and think, and finally he put up his own hand. ”Poisons can be very useful in limiting the growth or continuation of some illnesses. I think it was the Yew tree that was extremely poisonous - the bark and the leaves - but muggle scientists figured out that a part of the bark could be extracted … and its poison helped to stem off the grow of muggle cancer. Don’t know if it helped heal it completely or not though.”
Remy couldn’t remember the last time he had been so interested in a lesson. A quick grin was given to Henry before he continued. ”And… Perhaps uncommon could mean unexpected even though you know there is a risk attached? Well what I mean is…” Remy paused and put his thoughts in order quickly and then carried on.”
”I think I read somewhere that the strength of a poison is figured out by how much would be needed to be lethal versus the weight of the wizard or creature that was attacked… and I think the others are right - some of the most lethal ones are from creatures. But I was considering those that come usually from creatures that haven’t been cooked properly like the pufferfish.. I mean you aren’t going to really think you would be poisoned by a fish… even when you know it could be toxic. Some people don’t think that risk applies to them.” And he was babbling and ranting… Whoops, shutting up now.
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The benefits? Of poisons?
Derf was too busy staring blanking at the Healer to hear what some of his classmates had to say on the subject - although he had no doubt Jessa and Katherine had opinions on the subject. While his knee jerk reaction was to shout NONE, the most he sat there thinking the more he had to admit to himself that this was untrue. He couldn't tell you much about plants, but he COULD about animal venoms and such. Like...he knew something good had been made from the blood-thinning venom of the African saw-scaled viper and a substance seeeeeeeecreted by leeches...and while he couldn't quite remember WHAT it was exactly, it was something GOOD and definitely a benefit. There was also something in the saliva of Gila monsters if he recalled...but again, the fine details escaped him. Which sorta meant that he was unable to contribute to this conversation.... but hey, he WAS thinking and also doodling a picture of a viper in the margin of his potions notes. That was productive.
As to the other question, well, common and uncommon to him meant their rarity index...and he could only assume someone had already mentioned this while he was off in La La Land thinking about beneficial venoms and secretions. Thus his hand remained down for now and instead he set to finishing transcribing the rest of the ingredients on his piece of parchment.
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Time to move forwards, yes?
"For today, we will be brewing an Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Now this, I know, is very different from the ones written on your textbooks. That's because this formula is used in infirmaries like the Hospital Wing or St Mungo's." he said turning his back against the class, tapping the board once more to reveal more information. "Before we begin to brew this potion, what do you think is or are the benefits of poisons? And...what makes an uncommon poison, uncommon?"
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Oh well.... Char supposed everything had a benefit somewhere so she thought about it, chewing her lip and trying to puzzle through an answer. She put her hand up, waving it around a little bit, not overly certain of herself because this was potions class and she was Charlotte, and this particular Charlotte wasn't exactly an O student in classes that required so much precision. But she could think out an answer out loud and work through something....
"I guess like people are saying a benefit of poisons could actually be to test antidotes. Which sounds kind of silly but like, if you think about it, how is anyone going to figure out how to treat someone who is poisoned either on purpose or by accident without tests being done? But you know what? Also I think in nature there's a benefit for like..... plants and creatures you know? Self defense. To be poisonous so that nothing would want to try to eat you." Um what was the other question? What was uncommon! Right. Uhh... she tacked an answer on, hand still up, "Uncommon poisons are.... uncommon because.... of availability? And also maybe fashion?" Okay did that need explaining? "Like maybe 500 years ago a particular poison was like.... en vogue? But then it fell out of favour for whatever reason, so there stops being a need to have a specific antidote for it, or even like..... the knowledge about a specific antidote might fade? And then if that poison resurfaces... then you'd have to fall back on this uncommon thingy and hope for the best." Um... right? Who knew, who knew, but she WAS trying, in earnest, for you Healer Reed.
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Etta pondered over the question as her classmates answered, not a hundred percent sure about the answer she was about to give. She honestly didn't have anything new to add to what others had said anyway but it was better to say something, yeah? The girl finished taking down notes and after making sure she hadn't missed anything, she raised a hand.
"They can used be used as an anti-dote in small doses, right? Or they can be used to numb the pain, again in small quantities..." Her voice trailed off, feeling rather unimpressed with herself. She rubbed her forehead as she leaned back against her seat, waiting for class to move on.
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"If you look at it closely, it is a healing potion and has restorative effects. If you combine those two aspects, what would it be?" Ms Durant was a Ravenclaw, surely she'll get the answer specifically.
At the Healer's question, Rhea considered it more. Healing... Restoration... Ah. "An antidote...?" She stated, although it came out sounding more like a question than a statement.
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Time to move forwards, yes?
"For today, we will be brewing an Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Now this, I know, is very different from the ones written on your textbooks. That's because this formula is used in infirmaries like the Hospital Wing or St Mungo's." he said turning his back against the class, tapping the board once more to reveal more information. "Before we begin to brew this potion, what do you think is or are the benefits of poisons? And...what makes an uncommon poison, uncommon?"
Ah. It was an antidote.
Rhea wrote down the newly revealed information when the Healer tapped the board and, while she was writing, considered his questions. She put down her quill and raised her hand. "Having access to poisons allows us" - us being people that created antidotes, not her - "to make antidotes for that poison as well as possibly other poisons. Can some poisons, in small doses, be beneficial depending on how they react with other ingredients?" She paused, not feeling like she'd quite gotten across what she wanted to say. Nevertheless, she continued on to answer his second question. This time guessing more than anything else. "If the poison itself it difficult to get hold of... or expensive and because of that it's not sought out as much?" Here she was thinking more of if people were trying to poison someone. "Or maybe if the ingredients are rare?" Hm. "Or if the way it's administered is unusual?"
Woah. Now she needed a breather. Had she ever spoken so much at once in class? Probably not. But ever since the Olivia incident, she grown to appreciate the Healer and Potions even more. Still, her ever-present neutral expression didn't change.
Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade)
➸ Ingredients
50ml Water (distilled)
14ml Antimony (liquefied)
32g Stargrass
302ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 p. Fireseeds
15 p. Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 p. Betony leaves (fresh)
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Cures the effects of uncommon poisons. Altered to have a stronger effect. Covers a wider range of poisons known to wizard kind.
It had been fun finding the ingredients with Olly. But she was glad to be back in the potions classroom now. She liked the brewing the best. Sure she didn't want to be a potions person, but she liked the brewing. It was fun. Even if she kind of wasn't the best at it. She sat back down next to Olly and smiled. She was excited to see what they would do next.
Oooh. They were going to brew an antidote. That was pretty cool. And hospital grade? That was something her mom might have been doing too. She thought that was pretty awesome. But she also thought she would probably not be very good at this. But she could totally try.
"I think people wouldn't think there are positives to poisons. But I guess it is how you think about them?" Hattie mused, putting her hand in the air. "I mean. They are good in the sense that they help get rid of house hold pests, but not so good when used in murder."
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What was going on with Ms. Katy Toussaint? She was beaming like Kitty had never seen her beam before, clearly she was excited about this whole poison business. Why did she find that slightly alarming? Don't be so absurd, Kitty,, she told herself. She's probably just academically interested.
Anyway, Kitty raised her hand after many of the others had finished speaking. "A poison is uncommon, I presume, if the ingredients are hard to collect - or if the potion itself is so difficult to brew that very little of it exists."
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Skylar scribbled down some of the various notes and things that Healer Reed had mentioned in his responses to the class ...healing.... restorative ... properties ... antidote... Her quill stopped though when his dialect changed the fifth year just stared a moment. They were learning about poisons? Or rather, antidotes to poisons? Jotting down the information on the board, she listened as her peers pretty much covered like everything she was going to say.
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"Poisons by themselves are toxic, yes, causing serious illness or death. But things that would normally make humans or animals susceptible to illness do also have the advantage of being immunity boosters as well. Take for instance, muggle vaccinations. They often use a live strand of the actual virus, a virus known to cause serious illness or death, and will inject it into the body so that the body can produce antibodies and be able to fight off infection." Oops, she'd done a bit of light reading over the summer in regards to healing? She needed to determine if she really wanted to pursue creature healing, so in Skylar fashion, she researched. "Snake venom is another example of a poison that in itself is deadly, but has proven health benefits." Take that, Head Girl Valentine. "It's useful in that while it's mixture might immobilize, it can also effect blood coagulation and blood pressure regulation, creating powerful tools to combat pain and cancer."
As for what made an uncommon poison, uncommon. "By uncommon, I would think it would refer to the lack of a typical reason for a poison. Poisons, at first thought, would be considered harmful, but when you break it apart, it doesn't have to be, due to the beneficial sides of poisons."
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So they were making an antidote. Made sense given the ingredients, and the fact that it was the Healer teaching them. Sam made some notes on her parchment, but really had some questions for Addy later. Like...what differentiated this antidote from numbers 1 to 4? When should she use this one over the others? Or the others over this one? It seemed important information, even if she hoped never to have to use it.
But the Healer had questions for them right now. "Basilisk venom is so potent it can destroy horcruxes." That definitely seemed like a benefit of a poison. And as for uncommon poisons, it seemed the class had already got it covered.
Uncommon poisons were ones that weren't readily attainable, but weren't super rare either. Ones that weren't naturally available, or easy to brew at home, but were still reasonably affordable if someone knew where to go obtain them. Her Pa had dabbled in selling such things on the black market, once upon a time, before he'd been sent to Azkaban. She could probably still name some of them, if she thought back, even though she'd only been young at the time. Of course, she didn't actually feel the need to mention that knowledge aloud, and thus just waited for the next part of the lesson.
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Sydney smiled back at Healer Reed as he agreed with her vague answer. She listened and took notes as he said they will be brewing an antidote to poisons today - uncommon poisons! This was really intriguing stuff. Who else would be able to teach them about antidotes used in infirmaries other than a trained Healer?
She did not know enough about poisons, let alone their benefits, to contribute to the discussion. The definition of "uncommon poisons" seemed quite straightforward to her; rare, expensive, and so on, all of which her classmates had already mentioned. So instead, the brunette continued taking notes of what everybody was saying, pausing every now and then to look through her textbook.
Some people had very interesting knowledge about poisons.
They were back with their ingredients, yess!! And honestly, Emmeline sort of loved this lesson 'cause it was super fun for a Potions lesson, mhm. She grinned at Mr. Healer as she dumped her ingredients onto the table in front of her and sunk back into her seat next to Stasya. Mr. Henry was already heading back to his seat, too, and Emmeline was SUPER grateful that he'd helped her and Stas, 'cause there was no way she would've figured out how to collect those ingredients on her own. Still, the scavenger hunt for plant ingredients had been waayyy more fun than anything they usually did in Potions.
The second year tensed as she read through the ingredients list for this potion, and felt her shoulders slump in relief when she saw that there were no creature parts of any kind required today. Good; this was totally progress, mhm. She halfheartedly flipped through her textbook to look for potions that used those ingredients, but gave up fairly quickly. Besides, it was obviously some kind of healing potion 'cause Mr. Healer was teaching it and some of the ingredients had come from his garden and stuff. Loads of her classmates had already said that, so the Gryffindor tried to figure out what kind of healing potion it was, when she remembered the old lady sitting in the back and inspiration hit. If an old lady like that was sitting in for this lesson, then clearly the potion had to do with handling old age. Why else would a super old lady need to learn about this particular potion? She raised her hand and sort of blurted out her answer as soon as she was called on: "Is it a healing potion for some of the, uh, issues with old age? Like like a cure for wrinkles or sagging skin or something?" Not that she had paid enough attention to the old lady sitting in the back to see if she had wrinkles or sagging skin, but it was kinda just a thing that happened to old people, wasn't it?
Emmeline's theories were soon dashed to pieces when Mr. Healer moved on. So it was antidote to poisons, cooool. 'Cept Mr. Healer obviously wasn't feeling very well, 'cause he was asking about the benefits of poisons?! What?? She shot Mr. Healer a LOOK, but that kinda faded as she listened to her classmates' answers. Oh...she hadn't thought of the sort of things they were saying. This was why she wasn't in Ravenclaw. She kind of zoned out for a bit after that, but did manage to think of something and get her hand up in time to answer Mr. Healer's questions: "Umm, aren't there some poisons that Herbologists use to, like, protect plants from BUGS or something?" Ughh, Herbology. Honestly, she was surprised she even remembered that; she paused to shudder a little for a few seconds 'cause ewwww, bugs, before she went on: "And and, uhhhh, poisons are uncommon if Healers raaaareeellly ever see them, or they're SUPER hard to make, or or if they're made with RARE ingredients. OR if you have to be realllllly smart to make them, 'cause most people aren't Ravenclaws." One of those things was definitely the answer, right? And she wasn't insulting ANYONE by saying people were dumb, 'cause she was dumb too. Especially with potions and stuff. Not everybody could be a Ravenclaw.
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Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Well that was certainly a healing potion, giving it healed you from the potentially harmful effects of whatever uncommon poison you or someone else had unfortunately been dosed with. And it was backed up by mentions of the Hospital Wing and St. Mungos. It would be cool to be working on a potion that was of that quality to be actually used in a professional setting. At Healer Reed’s questions, she thought for a moment before raising her hand to answer.
“Well an uncommon poison could be something that’s less available for use or something that’s harder to counteract. Maybe a poison that you can’t use a bezoar against.”
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Kyle was confused. Very confused. The benefits of poisons? What could a benefit of a poison be? He thought about it, then thought some more, and finally decided to raise his hand. "Something that dehydrates you can also lower your blood pressure." He'd heard of pills that did just that. Well, maybe didn't totally dehydrate you, but it did a little bit. Right? "I mean, just a little. But that's why when you're dehydrated you get dizzy. It's because your blood pressure goes down. So if you needed to drop your blood pressure because it's really high, something that dehydrates you would work, wouldn't it?" He wasn't all too sure on that. But there had been times he got dizzy and his father had him drink a lot of water and it helped. He'd said it was low blood pressure, and Kyle trusted his father was right. But he also didn't want to sound stupid in front of the class.
Now, what would be an uncommon poison? And why would it be uncommon? Well, obviously... "An uncommon poison would be uncommon because people are less likely to use it, I think. Like..." Think, Kyle, think! "Um... Essential oils. Like, eucalyptus is known to be poisonous to humans, and the oil is sold as a health thing to add to your bath or use in a diffuser and stuff. But even though it's easy to get a hold of, no one poisons anyone with it."
River nodded as he leaned back on the board and listened to Kyle's answer. "Indeed, Mr Erikson. Same with poisons. It can be beneficial if it will give you comfort in the end. Of course, it has to be administered carefully. Preferably by a Healer." It was great to see that these kids can see the other side of the coin.
The Healer tilted his head to the side and shrugged at his next answer. "It is common knowledge not to ingest essential oils, considering that most of them can't be dissolved by the body. But you're right about the unlikeliness of people using a substance to make it uncommon."
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Vi nodded, listening to Healer Reed as he continued her train of thought. They shouldn't see each ingredient as a stand alone ingredient. But... Oh. It clicked. They all influence each other, huh? She nodded, taking note of this, and scribbled down a couple of thoughts on this matter. She'd come find him later to dive more into this.
What were the benefits of poison? Vi tapped the quill to the bottom of her chin as she thought through. Well... Poisons could combat bacteria and cells... Hadn't she seen an exhibition on poisons this past summer or was it the summer before? Olivia couldn't remember exactly. Hmm....
She raised her hand, taking a jab at his first question. "Professor. A pro of poisons is that they can suppress bodily functions that cause pain." Pain receptors right? That's what they were called... Something like that. Anyway.... "Some plants have toxic defenses which protects them from predators... Muggle scientists have extracted the toxins in order to use them in medicines. For instance, poppy has been used to relieve pain."
[textcut="notes"[B][U]]Potion: [/U][/B]Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade)
[B][U]Effect(s): [/U][/B]This healing potion cures the effects brought about uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
50 ml Distilled Water
14 ml Liquefied Antimony
32 grams Stargrass
302 ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 pieces Fire Seeds
15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
Notes:
[s]Antimony + heat + air (oxygen) = Bad news[/s] - ask Healer Reed about dependency of ingredients in potions later.[/textcut][/QUOTE]
[B]"Yes, excellent answer Ms Holden."[/B] River nodded and moved to the next raised hand,
[QUOTE=bone_baud10;12260124]Wildcard. Interesting. In the Ravenclaw's young mind what he understood from the Professor was, Antimony is probably a versatile ingredient. Hmmm...
Aymeric had always been intrigued by the idea of 'versatility'. The ability to change or adapt with ease was always curious in his opinion. But now was not the time to daydream about his philosophy. He was in the middle of a a... ugh... dare he remind himself, Potions lesson. Why couldn't he be outside right now? So depressing. But the Professor didn't seem to notice.
Aymeric scribbled down a few messy notes here and there in his shared notebook. He was glad that the topic of the lesson was antidotes since it was a subject he was familiar with. Since both of his parents were travelers, they would brew themselves a few antidotes for their expeditions. There were several times when he was younger that he 'helped' (pass unharmful ingredients) them brew potions.
But the next question, which was presented before the class in his opinion was a bit distasteful. Benefits?! Of Poisons?! Aymeric crossed his arms and returned to his sulky mood. [B][SIZE="2"]"Poisons don't have any benefits,"[/SIZE][/B] the third year mumbled to himself. Poisons can kill! Any benefit they have is negative or lethal... he sighed.
Once again the urge to leave arose inside of him. Aymeric grabbed his quill, and began to do what he loved most, drawing. To be accurate he was sketching with leftover ink on his quill. He scribbled under his messy notes a few sketches of stargrass. He was waiting for the brewing to begin. The part he enjoyed least.
Yes, the Ravenclaw angst was strong with this one. River could practically see his foul aura from where he stood, however, he did want to challenge this student. "How about those insecticides you use against pests, Mr Willis? Doesn't that benefit you at all?" A little something to shake that Ravenclaw stubbornness from his system.
Having got back just in time, rearranged the ingredients on the desk, and puzzled over the answer to the first question, Dahlia was busy writing all the information down when the professor asked his next one. Or two. The first of them she had absolutely no clue. How could a poison be of any benefit to anyone? Surely the whole point of a poison was to kill? You don't cure people with them anyways. Not that she knew of.
But the second one she could have more of a stab at. She might be wrong, of course. She had been about a lot of things since the beginning of term. But this wasn't directly magical, right? This was kind of general. So Dahlia placed her quill down and stuck her hand in the air. "Is an uncommon one something that isn't used very often? Or not come across as much as more well known poisons? Sir." She added that quickly, just in case he thought her rude for blurting out an answer without addressing him first.
"A question for a question. I see." Dahlia earned herself a quirk of his eyebrow. "Aside from it being a complex poison, rarity comes into play as well." So yes, she's right about that.
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Originally Posted by TakemetotheBurrow
Junia's gears were turning and she had lots of questions about the things Reed was saying, though she'd be writing them down and saving them so she could research them on her own. This way she could impress him next time she spoke to him, yeah? It was a brilliant plan.
The potion they'd be brewing was interesting in that it was used for uncommon poisons, meaning not the run-of-the-mill kind you might read about. "Perhaps what uncommon means in this sense is not simply poisons brewed and given, but poisons coming directly from, say, creature bites or stings. Ones you wouldn't necessarily think of when listing poisons because exposure is rare, but that still fall under the same category." Then there was the whole benefits of poison question. Her mind went to royals and the way poisons were use to get rid of enemies one might have. That certainly benefited the person using the poison. She kept that one to herself, though. "It's like what Olivia said about suppressing the functions that cause pain. If you understand how a poison affects the body, you can figure out how to use it in small doses to help instead of hurt. You can figure out what it changes in the body, and then how that could be helpful to cure something that someone is dealing with."
SPOILER!!: Notes
Potion: Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade) Effect(s): Healing potion curing effects brought on by uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
-50 ml Distilled Water
-14 ml Liquefied Antimony
-32 grams Stargrass
-302 ml Boom Berry Juice
-23 drops Essence of Dittany
-5 pieces Fire Seeds
-15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
-5 strips Wiggentree Bark
-5 pieces Fresh Betony Leaves
Notes: -Used in Hospital Wing/St. Mungo's!
Junia earned a smile from the Healer as he nodded along. Good. Very good. She's learning. "Bites and stings from creatures fall under the uncommon category because acquiring these "venoms" are impossible to harvest, making it harder to study. Once it is in the host's system, it makes it more complicated to break down into its components and administer the precise antidote." River paused to give everyone a moment to take that one down in their notes. "That's why the experts have come up with this formula to cover most of the uncommon poisons known to wizard-kind. Healing magic is then partnered with the antidote to counter the rest of the effects of the poison."
Then again, River nodded. "That's why one shouldn't be too quick to dismiss that poison is evil or dark altogether." This is one of the reasons why Healing is such a complex profession. You have to have that kind of rationale to understand the discipline.
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Originally Posted by Kimothy
Errr... so the intentionally leaving the answer as vague as possible didn't work. It did during Astronomy last year with Professor Berkovich (who was no longer a professor anymore after just one term, making Vivian wonder if the Astronomy position was cursed). It was worth the shot, she thought. But hearing the answers of her other class, the prefect had already picked a few things up. "Has something to do with antimony, sir," she replied with a tiny smile. Still vague, but definitely more detailed than the first answer.
But now moving on to the next question. This time, Vivian actually gave it more thought, considering how she knew her parents definitely stocked a few antidotes to uncommon poisons at home. It hadn't really crossed her mind earlier, as she never really took much notice at them brewing it. But yes, she was sure they had essence of dittany and even a betony plant at home. Healer parents, of course. It had its perks in this lesson, but it made her a little conscious to not make a fool of herself. Healer Reed probably knew her parents! When she had an answer organised in mind, the prefect raised her hand. "Some poisons can be used to strengthen and improve antidotes, sir, the same way our liquefied antimony will be used today. Some of them may have life-saving potential," she shared. "Also to check how much of the poison a human's body can take." Mhm, there's that.
And for the other question. Hopefully she wasn't speaking too much again. "I'd say a poison is uncommon if it came from something you least expected." Like in occasions wherein you go 'dear Merlin, where did THAT come from?' Yeah, it's probably happened loads of times. Not everyone was that observant. Once finished, she nodded and smiled at Healer Reed.
Text Cut: Notes!
Potion: Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade) Effect(s): This healing potion cures the effects brought about uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
50 ml Distilled Water
14 ml Liquefied Antimony
32 grams Stargrass
302 ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 pieces Fire Seeds
15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 pieces Fresh Betony Leaves
It was staring them in the face all along, wasn't it? Liquefied antimony. "Exactly, Prefect Fairfield. Good observation." Hmm. Perhaps she has the potential to become a Healer too?
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Originally Posted by DaniDiNardo
She didn't mean it the way the Healer did, afterall, she was aware you couldn't really bring life back once it was gone but it was fine. He'd just confirmed it wasn't the potion they were gonna be using anyway, leaving very little reason for her to bother explaining. The Ravenclaw offered a quick apology for her outburst but would otherwise let the matter go to rest.
Uncommon poisons. Suffice to say that in all her time here, she never thought a Professor would ask for benefits of poisons. Didn't matter that they wouldn't be brewing these poisons, the question was enough to keep her interested.
Not wanting to be a complete repeat, Jessa opted to ignore the question on what made poisons uncommon, moving instead to the question of what benefits they held. "They're good for if you aren't physically capable of taking on the bullies in your life. Easy to administer, easy to remedy once they agree to leave you alone, and they provide good incentive to cease undesired behaviour."
She would also be taking down the ingredients; these weren't the ones she had stored away for her antidotes.
SPOILER!!: Notes
Jessa Cambridge
Fourth Year
Ravenclaw
Potion: Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade) Effect(s): This healing potion cures the effects brought about uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
50 ml Distilled Water
14 ml Liquefied Antimony
32 grams Stargrass
302 ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 pieces Fire Seeds
15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 pieces Fresh Betony Leaves
No wonder this child was sorted into Ravenclaw. However, it wasn't a clever plan to take down an enemy. "Only when you are sure that you know the correct antidote. You do not want to be expelled, Ms Cambridge." Realistically speaking, he and the rest of the staff don't have enough eyes to see what these children do to each other, so it was only right to remind them of what to do in case they resort to this method. One fine example would be that time when Olivia Phillips got poisoned, and had her head crack open. She'd been moved from the Great Hall all the way up to the Hospital Wing bleeding profusely. Virtually, none of them knew what to do, except for him being the Healer. He'd taken weeks and months to bring her back to the living.
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Scribbling down her notes, Emma looked up again as the professor spoke and asked a few questions. This was EXACTLY the type of potions she was interested in. Ones she'd need to know how to brew as a healer one day. Chewing on her lip as she thought on the first question she raised her hand "It could possibly be used to counteract another poison or rid a person of an illness?"
Text Cut: Notes
Potion: Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade) Effect(s): This healing potion cures the effects brought about uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
50 ml Distilled Water
14 ml Liquefied Antimony
32 grams Stargrass
302 ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 pieces Fire Seeds
15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 pieces Fresh Betony Leaves
"Yes, that is correct, Ms Yenorin." River offered the girl a grin and moved to the next student.
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Originally Posted by Cassirin
Oh. OH. Katy perked up considerably at the name of the potion. She was keen on poisons and antidotes, and she'd blown through most of the textbook versions available. But a real, honest-to-goodness antidote, hospital grade... that was new. Interesting.
"You know, sir, the thing about poisons is that you have to have the perfect antidote to counteract them. You have to spend precious moments determining what the poison is so you can administer the exact right antidote. And the rarer and more uncommon the poison, the less likely it is that you'll have the antidote or the ingredients you need to brew one. So a potion like this means you don't have to waste that time or lose your patient," Katy practically beamed as her words tripped out. She hadn't been this engaged since... well... it had been a while.
"And because uncommon poisons are complex, it is important to cover as much known uncommon poisons as possible, considering that we still haven't discovered the perfect medicine. Remember that when an antidote evolves, so does poison." So...perhaps alchemists really wouldn't be out of commission any time soon.
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Oh, okay. Made much more sense than the direction his textbook was leading him in.
Ronan scribbled the new information into his notes and then thought about the professor's question for a second. "Usually, a creature uses their poisonous secretions as a form of defense. Like when a venomous snake bites someone, it's usually because they feel threatened. And what would make one uncommon would be that it's something you don't typically run into everyday, like a King Cobra." Not that was the only way one would run into a poison. "Also, some people use poisons as a way to get rid of pests, like ants or rats. Then, there are your weed killers......" But that went more into Herbology and this wasn't that.
"You are correct, Mr Carter." How was he feeling by the way? Still drafty? Hopefully his lab coat was keeping him warm. Merlin.
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Originally Posted by Anna Banana
Mmkay, well...she had sort of got the answer right. The professor seemed pleased with what she'd said, at least, so Maddie beamed at him and nodded. This potion sounded like coffee! Maybe it was wizarding coffee or something! Maybe it was a coffee brew like the kind her mom and dad drank! Maybe. Maybe. MAYBE.
Uhhh...okay, no. It was some antidote to a poison, which sounded kind of complicated. As complicated as that question the Healer!Professor had just asked. HUHHHHHH? Oh, oh, OHHHHH. She raised her hand in the air. Wait...NO. She was thinking of something Herbology-related, like the poisons used to kill weeds. "I don't think there are any benefits to poisons, Professor," she said, with a disappointed tone in her voice. "...and maybe a poison is uncommon, because people don't know enough about it."
"I'd ask a different question then, Ms Kemp. Based on your classmates' answers, do you still think poisons don't have benefits?" Surely by now she'd realise that it wasn't the case. "You are right about the last bit, however. Some of these poisons are hard to come by...and much complex to study." River nodded and moved on to the next student.
Back in his seat next to Hattie with their ingredients, Olly was really trying to pay attention to the next part of the lesson. The problem was that it was just talking and he was not the best at listening to that. He'd liked the running around and finding ingredients. He was looking forward to the brewing part too, but unfortunately there was this boring part in the middle. No, he had no idea what they could be brewing. The fireseeds were confusing him. Didn't they explode? It seemed like a dangerous seem to ingest. He really did not want his insides to explode.
It was apparently an antidote to uncommon poisons. Which was different than an antidote to common poisons, apparently. Why couldn't one antidote suffice? This just complicated the whole thing. And no, he didn't have an answer. All he knew about uncommon poisons was that they were...well...uncommon. Which meant they were used less often than the common ones.
River took a glance at the Slytherin, a grin plastered on his face, hoping that he was at least taking down notes. It was equally important...
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UM helloooooooooo did anyone notice that Professor Healer Reed just ignored Zoryn’s answer all together? Um. HOW RUDE! The Gryffindor was SHOOK. That wasn’t fair at all!! Her answer was SOOOOO serious. Why else would a potion call for ingredients like leaves, salt, and berry juice? What other reason than a salad potion!?! Hmph. Zoryn thought her answer was VERY clever and was VERY offended that it wasn’t taken seriously. As for the antidote stuff, yeah suppose that might work too. BUT STILL. Salad potion sounded like more fun.
Anyways, she tried not to think about it too much ‘cause they were moving on and despite what Professor Healer Reed was probably thinking, Zoryn really was trying her best to keep up here.
The next two questions were strange ones and Zoryn didn’t actually have answers immediately. Her answer for the stuff about uncommon potions was basically a sum up of what everyone else said. Probably called ‘em uncommon poisons because they weren’t common, right? Even potioneers had to have some sense of humor.
But the stuff about poison benefits… Zoryn had to agree with Jessa 100%. “Easy way to off someone without using an unforgivable. That way it’s totally legal,” right? Maybe? Zoryn didn’t know how the law worked.
"Technically, if your intention is to hurt another person, then it is illegal...much like an unforgivable Ms Spinnet." Marchand should watch out for this kid. Thank Merlin he wasn't their Head of House.
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Eddie may have missed the getting a partner, not because he didn't hear, but because he didn't work well with others. He liked being alone and the activity just didn't even interest him. Who let the healer teach potions anyway? He didn't really think the man would give him anything he could use. He wasn't interested in any type of healing potions, Edward Blaze Jr. would never be healing anyone.
So instead of doing what the healer said he sat in his chair and jotted down the ingredients, once he gathered things he put a hand on his chin and leaned in his seat. His eyes soon growing heavy and his face soon hitting the table. He may have stayed up a bit to late reading about snakes and now the boy was tired and since he assumed they'd be learning something to help someone not harm he let himself fall asleep.
Whoops
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Aaaand this kid was asleep.
River quirked an eyebrow, and mischievous grin was on his lips. "Aside from taking 10 points from Mr Blaze...would anyone like to discreetly draw on his face while we continue our discussion?" He'd probably give that student 5 points for bravery and humour.
Patrick looked at the other students after retrieving his ingridents for the potion. He listened intently to Professor Reed explain the lesson as he recalled what he and Dahlia had found. He wanted to do well, and he wanted to learn as much as possible.
Ahhh, they were going to be making a antidote to poisons... that seemed like a fun thing to do. He raised his hand to answer the question regarding why you would make such an antidote. "Wouldn't that be because the uncommon poisons aren't well known or seen so rarely that we aren't sure how to fix them?" he mumbled not sure his answer was going to be correct.
"Indeed, Mr Dooley." River nodded and moved along to the next student.
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Originally Posted by Steelsheen
An Antidote! Well yeah that can be what a Counter Curse is in potion form innit? And Hospital Grade, wow. This is gonna be some pretty important brewing today mmhm oh boy he cant wait.
Benefits to poisons though? Ok first thought was the nefarious response, the kind supervillains would usually say. But this is Hogwarts not Durmstrang, so gonna table that response for another time. "Professor, there are some venom from creatures like snakes and spiders that are poisonous, but these are extracted from them because they serve to create antidotes to these same venom. Sometimes the extraction themselves serve as ingredients to another cure to a completely unrelated disease."
"You're correct, Prefect Salander."
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Interested in what her classmates, and of course Professor-side-Healer had to say, Luci thought about the question of what benefits poisons bring. Couldn't think of any, just crazy painful effects of many. Shyly, she raised her hand, "Poisons weaken, even kill. So, guessing from the latter, there are specific plants, weeds, animal blood, combinations of them that some have used to make poisons, unknown to common knowledge like ours, even professional..." Sigh. Just a guess.
"Which makes uncommon poisons complex and more difficult to counter, yes." Good, good.
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Okay, so it is a healing potion but not being used for healing pain. Hmmmm... Well, it was just a random guess. Then Healer Reed announced that they're going to brew an antidote to uncommon poison. Uncommon, huh? It was interesting that the potion master/healer gave them the formula that commonly used in infirmaries. Guess that it was a plus point of being a healer who also taught potions.
And moving on to next question: what makes an uncommon poison became uncommon? Ava raised her hand as she gave an opinion about that. "Sir, I think what makes a poison uncommon is because of the dose. I mean, plenty of substances have healing properties at exact dose, but it can be poisonous if we use it more." The Gryffindor did remember her father (or sister?) mentioned about that.
"Poisons that are underdosed can kill too, Ms Burton. It depends however, on how potent the poison is. When it comes to these things, dosage hardly matters." A pause, "However with antidotes, it has to be exact, and if applicable, should be administered at certain intervals."
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Taking notes while raising your hand was like the epitome of multitasking, wasn't it? Cameron couldn't think of ANYTHING more complicated to coordinate. Not right now anyway. But then again he WAS busy writing things down and not trying to forget his answer so naturally, his brain wasn't really up for yet ANOTHER task.
Either way, here he was, raising his hand.
Once it was his turn Cameron stopped writing and looked up. "I think maybe uncommon poisons can be used to counteract something? Another poison maybe. And they're fabricated, so they don't actually exist in nature." It was worth a shot. Plus, Reed had said it was used in hospitals. Yes? No? "But then eventually you obviously need an antidote for that too." Which was what they were brewing.
Interesting. River paused and considered Mr Tamesis' answer. "It will all boil down to how it was fabricated, Mr Tamesis. It could, but it's highly unlikely. That's why we have the antidote, which is a positive substance for the host to fight whatever poison is in his or her system."
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Remy nodded his head as the Healer commented on his answer. Hmm, so that was incredibly interesting - though it did make sense. If something so toxic as a poison had made it into a person’s blood stream, surely some hugs wouldn’t get rid of it.. No, they would need an antidote that would physically kick and fight the toxin’s to win. Hmm. Hello little MMA fighters, fighting the good fight. Heh. No, focus.
Waiting for his turn, Remy wrote down notes from all of his classmates - at least the ones that he felt were anywhere near where the Professor was going with this lesson. A few suggestions made his own brain tick and think, and finally he put up his own hand. ”Poisons can be very useful in limiting the growth or continuation of some illnesses. I think it was the Yew tree that was extremely poisonous - the bark and the leaves - but muggle scientists figured out that a part of the bark could be extracted … and its poison helped to stem off the grow of muggle cancer. Don’t know if it helped heal it completely or not though.”
Remy couldn’t remember the last time he had been so interested in a lesson. A quick grin was given to Henry before he continued. ”And… Perhaps uncommon could mean unexpected even though you know there is a risk attached? Well what I mean is…” Remy paused and put his thoughts in order quickly and then carried on.”
”I think I read somewhere that the strength of a poison is figured out by how much would be needed to be lethal versus the weight of the wizard or creature that was attacked… and I think the others are right - some of the most lethal ones are from creatures. But I was considering those that come usually from creatures that haven’t been cooked properly like the pufferfish.. I mean you aren’t going to really think you would be poisoned by a fish… even when you know it could be toxic. Some people don’t think that risk applies to them.” And he was babbling and ranting… Whoops, shutting up now.
"Like what I said earlier to Ms Botros, it is beneficial to know your poisons too because some can negate the effects of the poison, however, careful research and a lot of study should be done before going down this route." A little reminder for one of the future Healers in the room.
River nodded and grinned at the mention of pufferfish. "You can say it is uncommon because it is often overlooked. There are things that should be common knowledge, but humans have lapses too." Too bad there's not enough Ravenclaw running the world.
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The benefits? Of poisons?
Derf was too busy staring blanking at the Healer to hear what some of his classmates had to say on the subject - although he had no doubt Jessa and Katherine had opinions on the subject. While his knee jerk reaction was to shout NONE, the most he sat there thinking the more he had to admit to himself that this was untrue. He couldn't tell you much about plants, but he COULD about animal venoms and such. Like...he knew something good had been made from the blood-thinning venom of the African saw-scaled viper and a substance seeeeeeeecreted by leeches...and while he couldn't quite remember WHAT it was exactly, it was something GOOD and definitely a benefit. There was also something in the saliva of Gila monsters if he recalled...but again, the fine details escaped him. Which sorta meant that he was unable to contribute to this conversation.... but hey, he WAS thinking and also doodling a picture of a viper in the margin of his potions notes. That was productive.
As to the other question, well, common and uncommon to him meant their rarity index...and he could only assume someone had already mentioned this while he was off in La La Land thinking about beneficial venoms and secretions. Thus his hand remained down for now and instead he set to finishing transcribing the rest of the ingredients on his piece of parchment.
Hmm. No words from Mr Ashburry-Hawthorne? Interesting. He was hoping he'd share his knowledge about creatures.
Ah well. Moving on.
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Oh well.... Char supposed everything had a benefit somewhere so she thought about it, chewing her lip and trying to puzzle through an answer. She put her hand up, waving it around a little bit, not overly certain of herself because this was potions class and she was Charlotte, and this particular Charlotte wasn't exactly an O student in classes that required so much precision. But she could think out an answer out loud and work through something....
"I guess like people are saying a benefit of poisons could actually be to test antidotes. Which sounds kind of silly but like, if you think about it, how is anyone going to figure out how to treat someone who is poisoned either on purpose or by accident without tests being done? But you know what? Also I think in nature there's a benefit for like..... plants and creatures you know? Self defense. To be poisonous so that nothing would want to try to eat you." Um what was the other question? What was uncommon! Right. Uhh... she tacked an answer on, hand still up, "Uncommon poisons are.... uncommon because.... of availability? And also maybe fashion?" Okay did that need explaining? "Like maybe 500 years ago a particular poison was like.... en vogue? But then it fell out of favour for whatever reason, so there stops being a need to have a specific antidote for it, or even like..... the knowledge about a specific antidote might fade? And then if that poison resurfaces... then you'd have to fall back on this uncommon thingy and hope for the best." Um... right? Who knew, who knew, but she WAS trying, in earnest, for you Healer Reed.
A semi-sort of in-your-face answer from Ms Kettleburn. Indeed, the most obvious ones are overlooked. "That is correct Ms Kettleburn. Most alchemists have a wide range of poisons for the sole purpose of discovering the perfect medicine." And while he momentarily got lost in the fashion talk, River was able to catch up with her train of thought, nodding towards Ms Toussaint's direction. "However, like I mentioned earlier, while antidotes are continuously developed, so does poison. Like fashion." There has to be balance in the world, yes? "Well done, Ms Kettleburn."
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Etta pondered over the question as her classmates answered, not a hundred percent sure about the answer she was about to give. She honestly didn't have anything new to add to what others had said anyway but it was better to say something, yeah? The girl finished taking down notes and after making sure she hadn't missed anything, she raised a hand.
"They can used be used as an anti-dote in small doses, right? Or they can be used to numb the pain, again in small quantities..." Her voice trailed off, feeling rather unimpressed with herself. She rubbed her forehead as she leaned back against her seat, waiting for class to move on.
"Some of them, yes. And it has to be administered carefully." Hang in there, Prefect. We're almost there.
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Originally Posted by Kayla Taaffe
Today Vivienne was brewing the Antidote to Common Poisons. A very different potion for a 1st year Huffie. "Poisons are used to harm others. They usually aren't used in daily practice."
She grabbed the ingredients and started brewing.
Hmm. "Not all I believe..." River trailed off, and was quick to stop the first year. "Now now, we're not starting yet." He said, eyeing the first year with a look. She was obviously not paying attention, was she?
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Originally Posted by natekka
At the Healer's question, Rhea considered it more. Healing... Restoration... Ah. "An antidote...?" She stated, although it came out sounding more like a question than a statement.
Ah. It was an antidote.
Rhea wrote down the newly revealed information when the Healer tapped the board and, while she was writing, considered his questions. She put down her quill and raised her hand. "Having access to poisons allows us" - us being people that created antidotes, not her - "to make antidotes for that poison as well as possibly other poisons. Can some poisons, in small doses, be beneficial depending on how they react with other ingredients?" She paused, not feeling like she'd quite gotten across what she wanted to say. Nevertheless, she continued on to answer his second question. This time guessing more than anything else. "If the poison itself it difficult to get hold of... or expensive and because of that it's not sought out as much?" Here she was thinking more of if people were trying to poison someone. "Or maybe if the ingredients are rare?" Hm. "Or if the way it's administered is unusual?"
Woah. Now she needed a breather. Had she ever spoken so much at once in class? Probably not. But ever since the Olivia incident, she grown to appreciate the Healer and Potions even more. Still, her ever-present neutral expression didn't change.
Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade)
➸ Ingredients
50ml Water (distilled)
14ml Antimony (liquefied)
32g Stargrass
302ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 p. Fireseeds
15 p. Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 p. Betony leaves (fresh)
➸ Effects
Cures the effects of uncommon poisons. Altered to have a stronger effect. Covers a wider range of poisons known to wizard kind.
"An antidote, yes." River nodded, and leaned back on the blackboard as he listened to Rhea's answer. "Correct again, Ms Durant." He'd mentioned the alchemists a while back...and the rarity and complexity of the poison being negated, so there was no point repeating the same answer. For a moment though, River allowed himself to go back to that time when Ms Durant had been very concerned for Olivia.
It had been fun finding the ingredients with Olly. But she was glad to be back in the potions classroom now. She liked the brewing the best. Sure she didn't want to be a potions person, but she liked the brewing. It was fun. Even if she kind of wasn't the best at it. She sat back down next to Olly and smiled. She was excited to see what they would do next.
Oooh. They were going to brew an antidote. That was pretty cool. And hospital grade? That was something her mom might have been doing too. She thought that was pretty awesome. But she also thought she would probably not be very good at this. But she could totally try.
"I think people wouldn't think there are positives to poisons. But I guess it is how you think about them?" Hattie mused, putting her hand in the air. "I mean. They are good in the sense that they help get rid of house hold pests, but not so good when used in murder."
River hung his head and chuckled. Ah, another daughter of a Healer. Of course she would say that. "Just because it is labelled as poison, doesn't mean that it's automatically evil. It does have its perks too." Not so good with murder? Indeed. It was in so many ways cowardly, to be honest.
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What was going on with Ms. Katy Toussaint? She was beaming like Kitty had never seen her beam before, clearly she was excited about this whole poison business. Why did she find that slightly alarming? Don't be so absurd, Kitty,, she told herself. She's probably just academically interested.
Anyway, Kitty raised her hand after many of the others had finished speaking. "A poison is uncommon, I presume, if the ingredients are hard to collect - or if the potion itself is so difficult to brew that very little of it exists."
"It is one of the possibilities, yes." And what was up with Head Girl eyeing Ms Toussaint that way? Was...everything alright between the two?
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRising
Skylar scribbled down some of the various notes and things that Healer Reed had mentioned in his responses to the class ...healing.... restorative ... properties ... antidote... Her quill stopped though when his dialect changed the fifth year just stared a moment. They were learning about poisons? Or rather, antidotes to poisons? Jotting down the information on the board, she listened as her peers pretty much covered like everything she was going to say.
Almost.
"Poisons by themselves are toxic, yes, causing serious illness or death. But things that would normally make humans or animals susceptible to illness do also have the advantage of being immunity boosters as well. Take for instance, muggle vaccinations. They often use a live strand of the actual virus, a virus known to cause serious illness or death, and will inject it into the body so that the body can produce antibodies and be able to fight off infection." Oops, she'd done a bit of light reading over the summer in regards to healing? She needed to determine if she really wanted to pursue creature healing, so in Skylar fashion, she researched. "Snake venom is another example of a poison that in itself is deadly, but has proven health benefits." Take that, Head Girl Valentine. "It's useful in that while it's mixture might immobilize, it can also effect blood coagulation and blood pressure regulation, creating powerful tools to combat pain and cancer."
As for what made an uncommon poison, uncommon. "By uncommon, I would think it would refer to the lack of a typical reason for a poison. Poisons, at first thought, would be considered harmful, but when you break it apart, it doesn't have to be, due to the beneficial sides of poisons."
"To fool the fool, yes." River nodded enthusiastically obviously chuffed at Skylar's answer. Poisons can be compared to bacterias and viruses, wherein it is 'killed' and introduced to the host's system to make it immune to that disease. It was very clever indeed. "A reminder however, that not all poisons work that way. Careful research, study, and tests are done before these are introduced," A little disclaimer for everyone, yes.
"It is a possibility too yes, but more often than not, uncommon poisons are so complex that it's quite a challenge to break it apart. So before we get to the point where we realise it is beneficial, one's life must be put on the line, making it almost impossible to break down in the first place." Again, complexity and rarity of the poison.
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Originally Posted by hermygirl
So they were making an antidote. Made sense given the ingredients, and the fact that it was the Healer teaching them. Sam made some notes on her parchment, but really had some questions for Addy later. Like...what differentiated this antidote from numbers 1 to 4? When should she use this one over the others? Or the others over this one? It seemed important information, even if she hoped never to have to use it.
But the Healer had questions for them right now. "Basilisk venom is so potent it can destroy horcruxes." That definitely seemed like a benefit of a poison. And as for uncommon poisons, it seemed the class had already got it covered.
Uncommon poisons were ones that weren't readily attainable, but weren't super rare either. Ones that weren't naturally available, or easy to brew at home, but were still reasonably affordable if someone knew where to go obtain them. Her Pa had dabbled in selling such things on the black market, once upon a time, before he'd been sent to Azkaban. She could probably still name some of them, if she thought back, even though she'd only been young at the time. Of course, she didn't actually feel the need to mention that knowledge aloud, and thus just waited for the next part of the lesson.
"Good point, Ms Tyler." See? Beneficial. Could save a whole school, really.
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Originally Posted by Jean Granger
Sydney smiled back at Healer Reed as he agreed with her vague answer. She listened and took notes as he said they will be brewing an antidote to poisons today - uncommon poisons! This was really intriguing stuff. Who else would be able to teach them about antidotes used in infirmaries other than a trained Healer?
She did not know enough about poisons, let alone their benefits, to contribute to the discussion. The definition of "uncommon poisons" seemed quite straightforward to her; rare, expensive, and so on, all of which her classmates had already mentioned. So instead, the brunette continued taking notes of what everybody was saying, pausing every now and then to look through her textbook.
Some people had very interesting knowledge about poisons.
River gave the young lady a glance, pleased that she was taking notes albeit her silence.
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They were back with their ingredients, yess!! And honestly, Emmeline sort of loved this lesson 'cause it was super fun for a Potions lesson, mhm. She grinned at Mr. Healer as she dumped her ingredients onto the table in front of her and sunk back into her seat next to Stasya. Mr. Henry was already heading back to his seat, too, and Emmeline was SUPER grateful that he'd helped her and Stas, 'cause there was no way she would've figured out how to collect those ingredients on her own. Still, the scavenger hunt for plant ingredients had been waayyy more fun than anything they usually did in Potions.
The second year tensed as she read through the ingredients list for this potion, and felt her shoulders slump in relief when she saw that there were no creature parts of any kind required today. Good; this was totally progress, mhm. She halfheartedly flipped through her textbook to look for potions that used those ingredients, but gave up fairly quickly. Besides, it was obviously some kind of healing potion 'cause Mr. Healer was teaching it and some of the ingredients had come from his garden and stuff. Loads of her classmates had already said that, so the Gryffindor tried to figure out what kind of healing potion it was, when she remembered the old lady sitting in the back and inspiration hit. If an old lady like that was sitting in for this lesson, then clearly the potion had to do with handling old age. Why else would a super old lady need to learn about this particular potion? She raised her hand and sort of blurted out her answer as soon as she was called on: "Is it a healing potion for some of the, uh, issues with old age? Like like a cure for wrinkles or sagging skin or something?" Not that she had paid enough attention to the old lady sitting in the back to see if she had wrinkles or sagging skin, but it was kinda just a thing that happened to old people, wasn't it?
Emmeline's theories were soon dashed to pieces when Mr. Healer moved on. So it was antidote to poisons, cooool. 'Cept Mr. Healer obviously wasn't feeling very well, 'cause he was asking about the benefits of poisons?! What?? She shot Mr. Healer a LOOK, but that kinda faded as she listened to her classmates' answers. Oh...she hadn't thought of the sort of things they were saying. This was why she wasn't in Ravenclaw. She kind of zoned out for a bit after that, but did manage to think of something and get her hand up in time to answer Mr. Healer's questions: "Umm, aren't there some poisons that Herbologists use to, like, protect plants from BUGS or something?" Ughh, Herbology. Honestly, she was surprised she even remembered that; she paused to shudder a little for a few seconds 'cause ewwww, bugs, before she went on: "And and, uhhhh, poisons are uncommon if Healers raaaareeellly ever see them, or they're SUPER hard to make, or or if they're made with RARE ingredients. OR if you have to be realllllly smart to make them, 'cause most people aren't Ravenclaws." One of those things was definitely the answer, right? And she wasn't insulting ANYONE by saying people were dumb, 'cause she was dumb too. Especially with potions and stuff. Not everybody could be a Ravenclaw.
Uhmm...what? River tilted his head, questioning Emmeline silently as to where she got that idea. Surely, it would be helpful to teach them that kind of potion, but since such potions are readily available in the market, why even bother? "Not...quite, Ms Sparkes." he said and glanced at the BoGer at the back. Huh.
The look wasn't missed, and he couldn't help but quirk an eyebrow at her. Was that some sort of attitude she was showing off? Tut. Tut. It was a good thing it faded as quickly as it appeared. Good. "Yes, and yes, Ms Sparkes. Very good." River wanted to agree so bad on the Ravenclaw comment, but he decided against it. Can't be biased now, can he?
[QUOTE=Holmesian Feline;12261143]Antidote to Uncommon Poisons. Well that was certainly a healing potion, giving it healed you from the potentially harmful effects of whatever uncommon poison you or someone else had unfortunately been dosed with. And it was backed up by mentions of the Hospital Wing and St. Mungos. It would be cool to be working on a potion that was of that quality to be actually used in a professional setting. At Healer Reed’s questions, she thought for a moment before raising her hand to answer.
“Well an uncommon poison could be something that’s less available for use or something that’s harder to counteract. Maybe a poison that you can’t use a bezoar against.”
"Could be rare, or complex, or both, Ms McNally. And I agree with how bezoar doesn't have any effect on it. It's far more complex, really." Good observation!
Now onto the good stuff!
"Those were insightful answers everyone, and I am pleased that most of you do have an open mind regarding poisons. Now before we start, I would like you all to take good notes on how this certain antidote was structured. While most of the ingredients are healing and restorative in nature, the amount of each ingredient all equate to the number 5-- the number for Healing. Note as well that you have to stir your brew anti-clockwise, reversing the effects of the poison. Also, this potion can be divided into two parts, meaning the dreg at the bottom of the cauldron after you brew it can be used as a standalone treatment. This is effective when curing the unusual bites and stings mentioned. However, for full efficacy, Healers use both the liquid and solid form to cure a patient. To use the dreg, you simply have to pack it in a canister like this," he said showing the dreg he already collected prior to class and showed them the symbol drawn directly on it. "Draw the Asclepius Staff on the surface and recite the incantation, 'Venenum Inverto' meaning reverse the poison. After which, you can apply it directly on the wound, or draw the Staff on the patient's tongue if you're using the liquid form as well."
River got his goggles out and placed it on his head before continuing. "The steps are basic and easy, you just need to follow them. You can work with your partners or go solo...and for those who didn't get enough ingredients from earlier, I have prepared a set for you on the table on your right." he said gesturing to the now visible table. "Before you begin, make sure your lab coats are worn properly, gloves and goggles are on, hair tied back, AND APPLY OUR 5 C's: Cleanliness, Content, Color, Concentration, and Care." So do Scourgify everything before brewing, kiddos.
"You have until 11:30 a.m to finish your brew. If you have any question or are unsure of what to do, raise your hand and I will assist you. Whenever you are ready, begin." Merlin, double periods are the worst.
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Potion: Antidote to Uncommon Poisons No. 005 (Hospital Grade) Effect(s): This healing potion cures the effects brought about uncommon poisons. This formula has been altered to have a stronger effect, covering a wider range of poisons known to wizard-kind.
Ingredients:
50 ml Distilled Water
14 ml Liquefied Antimony
32 grams Stargrass
302 ml Boom Berry Juice
23 drops Essence of Dittany
5 pieces Fire Seeds
15 pieces Pure Rock Salt
5 strips Wiggentree Bark
5 pieces Fresh Betony Leaves
Procedure:
Clean all equipment to be used: Cauldron, Scales, Stirrers, Phials, Etc.;
Bring 50 ml Distilled Water to a boil in medium heat;
Add finely chopped 32 grams of Stargrass. Use a silver dagger for this step;
Add 302 ml Boom Berry Juice and stir counter-clockwise for three minutes pause 5 seconds, and continue to stir the solution counter-clockwise for another two minutes. Use a glass stirrer for this step;
Remove the stirrer from the cauldron, and add 23 drops of Essence of Dittany into the solution;
Let 3 minutes pass, and then adjust the heat to low. Slowly add 5 fire seeds into the solution after 2 minutes. Use your dragon-hide gloves for this procedure;
Add 15 pieces of pure rock salt one by one, and stir the solution counter-clockwise for five minutes until the solution turns primrose yellow. This will indicate that the solution has been activated to counter the effect of poisoning;
Lay 5 strips of Wiggentree bark on the surface of the solution, and slowly push it one by one to the inner wall of your cauldron. Turn the heat back to medium and wait for the potion to boil;
Once bubbles appear, crush 5 fresh Betony Leaves with your hand, and add it to the boiling liquid. The potion should turn a shade of Sapphire Blue;
Wait five minutes, and then turn off the heat. Let the potion cool for 15 minutes, and then bottle it in glass phials using a clean Pasteur Pipette (dropper). Label your potions;
Scrape off the dreg at the bottom of the cauldron, and pack it in a tin box. Draw the Asclepius Staff with your wand, while saying the incantation: Venenum Inverto (nullify the poison).
Notes of interest:
The quantity of each ingredient is a product of Five; the number for Healing;
The stirring movement is counter-clockwise; activating the healing properties of each ingredient, ultimately reversing the effects of the poison;
The healing properties of each ingredient becomes more potent because of the presence of Fire Seeds. Said ingredient is born of the alchemical element fire, which represents life;
Salt is one of the Three Principles in Alchemy or one of the component s of the Universal Language of Nature. Naturally it is a product of the Earth and Water elements—the same elements associated with humans and beings. Salt can preserve (the body of the victim) and corrodes (to nullify the poison. In this context, it will absorb the dark/evil energies present), thus making the potion more potent;
The dreg can be used together with the potion to enhance its effect. The Asclepius Staff* should be drawn on the victim's tongue using the dreg while reciting the incantation: Venenum Inverto
*The Asclepius Staff is an alchemical symbol (and a universal medical symbol) for healing (or doctors in the muggle world).
OOC: Sorry for the very late reply, guys. I had a tough day at work and barely had enough time to log in and make replies, and my internet at home is acting up. Anyway, moving on to the brewing part! You have 3 days (72 hours, Sunday 17 September, 12mn GMT) to complete the rest of the activity. If you have any questions, hit me up on VMs/PMs. Skype or Twitter. Thank you! ^^
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