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03-09-2008, 12:13 AM
| | | JK Rowling talks Dumbledore's sexuality, Christian fundamentalists & encyclopaedia
In a new interview with the Edinburgh 'Student' newspaper, J.K. Rowling discusses Christian fundamentalists and their views of the Harry Potter books, elaborates on her reasons for making Dumbledore gay, and the fact that she is well into writing her comprehensive encyclopaedia about the series.
She talks about Laura Mallory, a woman who has been trying to ban the Harry Potter books: Quote:
"I can cope with a bad review. No one loves a bad review but a useful review is one that teaches you something. But to be honest the Christian Fundamentalist thing was bad. I would have been quite happy to sit there and debate with one of the critics who were taking on Harry Potter from a moral perspective. In a sense we have traded arguments through the media. I've tried to be rational about it. There's a woman in North Carolina or Alabama who's been trying to get the books banned-she's a mother of four and never read them. And then- I'm not lying, I'm not even making fun, this is the truth of what she said-quite recently she was asked [why] and she said 'Well I prayed whether or not I should read them, and God told me no.' Rowling pauses to reflect on the weight of that statement, and her expression one of utter disbelief.
"You see, that is where I absolutely part company with people on that side of the fence, because that is fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is, 'I will not open my mind to look on your side of the argument at all. I won't read it, I won't look at it, I'm too frightened.' That's what's dangerous about it, whether it be politically extreme, religiously extreme...In fact, fundamentalists across all the major religions, if you put them in a room, they'd have bags in common!" she laughs loudly before sobering. "They hate all the same things, it's such an ironic thing."
Jo discusses her reason for making Dumbledore gay, and why his homosexuality was not important to the integral plot of the series: Quote:
"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.
Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."
Clearly some people didn't see it that way. How does she react to those who disagree with a homosexual character in a children's novel? "So what?" she retorts immediately "It is a very interesting question because I think homophobia is a fear of people loving, more than it is of the sexual act. There seems to be an innate distaste for the love involved, which I find absolutely extraordinary. There were people who thought, well why haven't we seen Dumbledore's angst about being gay?" Rowling is clearly amused by this and rightly so. "Where was that going to come in? And then the other thing was-and I had letters saying this-that, as a gay man, he would never be safe to teach in a school."
An air of incredulity descends on the room as if Rowling herself still can not believe this statement. She continues: "He's a very old single man. You have to ask: why is it so interesting? People have to examine their own attitudes. It's a shade of character. Is it the most important thing about him? No, it's Dumbledore for God's sake. There are 20 things that are relavant to the story before his sexuality." Bottom line then: he isn't a gay character; he's a character that just happens to be gay. Rowling concurs wholeheartedly.
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Fundamentalism is, 'I will not open my mind to look on your side of the argument at all. I won't read it, I won't look at it, I'm too frightened.'
Having come across this too often  divest yourselves of emotion and think rationally children. I always do ... *Ottery always rationalizes that throwing the toaster makes more sense than throwing the oven at someone he's angry at because it's too heavy and the only thing he'd end up throwing is his back*
I love that Dumbledore is gay. Honestly I loved Dumbledore before this just made me love him more ... but Jo should have written it into the book ... you know with Grindenwald, I mean it was there ... arguably it was there ... I thought it was just me reading too much into it LOL so maybe she did write it in and she doesn't know it LOL I should go reread DH again.
But as to the fundamentalist, Jo should just ignore them. You can't argue with some people and honestly, article writer aside: Quote:
Rowling pauses to reflect on the weight of that statement, and her expression one of utter disbelief.
She comes off kind of ... uhm, holier than thou. *thinks* Besides, no ones holier than Ottery ... sure you've heard of a holy cow, but I'm a holy otter animal ...
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Mwahahaha I love how everyone gets so worked up about Dumbledore being gay. And I don't think JKR "made" him gay... once you've written a character for so long you just go with what feels right, and evidently him being gay felt right.
Don't even get me started on the Christian thing... <3 GO JK!
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I still think it's a tidbit she could have kept to herself. And as a practicing Catholic, I'm a little offended by the comments posted above me. I like to live by the credo "Don't be closed-minded that your brain atrophies, but don't be so open-minded that it falls out." AND I agree with Ottery, she does come across as holier than thou when she defends her position. She talks about being open minded and yet I find the aura she gives off is "This is MY position and that is the CORRECT position". I know it's probably not how she means to come across, but she does, and it makes her seem arrogant.
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Originally Posted by FoxFire So, I was thinking...remember the suit that Dumbledore wore when he went to tell Tom Riddle that he was a wizard? Purple, right? What kind of heterosexual man wears an entirely purple suit? 
Haha! That's amazing!
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I'm still shocked and still think it was more a publicitary stunt than anything else, but the reasoning is quite interesting. Plus, as she says, it wasn't that relevant (the main reason I can't find the reason to reveal it).
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That interview gave me a different view of Dumbledore being gay now. Quote:
Bottom line then: he isn't a gay character; he's a character that just happens to be gay. Rowling concurs wholeheartedly.
That completely changed my perspective!
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Go Jo! I totally agree, those types of people (the kind that wont bother to see the other side of the argument) are the kind that annoy me the MOST. Sigh... but she's well into her encyclopedia! that's awesome! I think that they should do another midnight release for it...  but that's just me
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She is brilliant. The way she handles situations like this, being so well-spoken and so smart in an interview, is one of the reasons I absolutely adore her -- she has her head screwed on straight, which is nice to see in a creative business like this. Some people are so nuts and so dead-set on hating so many aspects about life that it astounds me.
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I'm still shocked and still think it was more a publicitary stunt than anything else, but the reasoning is quite interesting. Plus, as she says, it wasn't that relevant (the main reason I can't find the reason to reveal it).
She was asked a question and she answered it. I don't see how that's a stunt. Unless you're suggesting the fan was made to ask...
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hopefully she publishes her own encyclopaedia soon...
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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle She was asked a question and she answered it. I don't see how that's a stunt. Unless you're suggesting the fan was made to ask... As remote as it is, there always could be that possibility...:sevribbon:
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ok all im going to say is why now? it has nothing to do with the story why bring it up its pointless who cares but i do have to say this, which will probaly make people hate me but i donmt care so here i go no wonder dumbledore hung aroung harry so much thats just me, sorry those i have offended!!
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As remote as it is, there always could be that possibility...
I doubt she'd willingly attract the amount of ridiculous negativity she's received.
^ Because she was asked, simple as that.
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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle I doubt she'd willingly attract the amount of ridiculous negativity she's received.
^ Because she was asked, simple as that. Well who knows? Maybe she thought she burned all her bridges in the book, let's spice things up a bit. :gollum2: One of my closest friends came out a few years ago, he's been a Potter fan from the get go, and he actually sold his DVDs and gave his books away b/c he said he found Dumbledore's outing insulting!
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It honestly doesnt bother me that Dumbledore is gay. I always had this major thing that happend in his past-- but seriously. Someone's sexuality doesnt make the person.
yes- its a big part of them but I dont think they should be judged for the wrong reasons.
so Dumbledore is gay. who cares? he just has a major love of men.
(believe me- Im not trying to be rude or offend anyone in saying this.)
I just think that deep down- we all knew something would have happend with him in his past. I used to think that Dumbledore and McGonagall had something going on-- but as we know...nothing did.
and the fact that Laura Mallory is trying to ban the books... is just beyond crazy. I think that people should have the right to read them-or not too. They are one of the best series of books that i have ever read. and she couldn't possibly hate a book because of her religion. and it also doesnt help her case.
but i loved how Jo told them exactly what she meant. it was brilliant. =]
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Originally Posted by aleja why did she made him gay anyways!??? :S she should have kept it for herself...  the statement was released bc Steve Cloves sent JK a script for HBP in which he gave Dumbledore a female love interest and she crossed out that section and in hte margin wrote "Dumbledore is gay" somehow it got into the media, it is not a big deal, some people just don't have lives and they try to pick things apart to get a bigger story that isn't there.
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I totally agre with JO. Dumbledore been Gay is not relevant to the stroy, it's just part of he's character, but not for that an important thing of the novel. Jo doesn't want Dumbledore to be remember as a gay proffesro,, she wants the poeple to remember him as she shows him
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Jk is really spilling the news you all should watch Tom Feltons reaction to this on youtube he looks as if he is going to fall backwords!
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