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Umm...what? Was there a question in there somewhere? See, this was why Sierra hated Divination. Apparently, a question had been asked, and she'd been so caught up on trying to figure out what Bibliomancy was that she'd completely overlooked the question. She went back over what she'd just heard. Something about comparing something to something else. Comparing Bibliomancy to other forms of Divination, ...right. ...like she knew that. Psh. She'd at least read a little bit of the textbook beforehand, though. "Rhapsodomancy," she tried to pronounce, her hand in the air. "I really have no idea what it is, but it has something to do with reading poetry." She shrugged. "Maybe tarot readings, too, since they're a form of reading." |
Text Cut: Divination answers As answers started coming, Renée started wondering if her question had been a bit too confusing. Either completely or just because it was nearing exam time and the end of term, when she knew students were more apt to not want to really think as much as they needed to. Either way, it seemed half of the answers weren’t related to bibliomancy at all, but she still gave Penny, Maria, and William a smile. “I’d imagine that would be more connected to tasseomancy, and the other forms related to symbolism, rather than bibliomancy, Penny, but that was still a good thought. As are Seeing and molybdomancy, but not exactly what I was looking for,” she replied gently. “Perhaps we should get back to just focusing on bibliomancy.” Especially as she didn’t want the discussion of Seeing to make anyone uncomfortable. Things had changed, but there was still the possibility, as far as she knew. Quote:
Text Cut: Gwen and Savannah Going back to Gwen and Savannah as the two girls suggested their own ideas as to what she’d been aiming for, Renée gave each of them another smile. Still wasn’t exactly what she’d wanted, but at least they were getting closer. Plus, there was the connection to Tarot that she’d expected. “Chartomancy is more of a broad category, than a true form of Divination,” she replied, giving Savannah a nod as well. “And yes, bibliomancy is often included under that category, but it’s not exactly what I was aiming for. Neither was cartomancy, although that form is commonly considered similar to bibliomancy. It is also categorized under chartomancy, though,” she continued, moving on to Gwen’s suggestions. “Runic divination is considered a branch of cleromancy, however. Divination by casting… but you’re correct in the assumption that there is the connection of reading, as well as writing. It just isn’t quite connected to bibliomancy.” Text Cut: ^_^ As she continued hearing the answers the students were giving, Renée actually was taken by surprise as, among the others who had at least successfully guessed the ideas she was aiming for, little Simon had actually said something right. She’d known he had the ability, but it still surprised her. She responded to Kurumi’s idea first, however. “I wasn’t exactly speaking of I Ching divination, but yes. It is generally connected to bibliomancy, by way of the idea of randomization that I’ve alluded to and we’ll discuss in a moment. In general, however, we won’t be discussing much about the complexity of the I Ching today.” Even if she’d considered herself capable of teaching that form, it would most likely take almost an entire term to really get them to understand how it worked. Definitely more than just one class period. However, the two forms that she actually had been directing them toward had been mentioned, so her focus shifted back to Simon, Helena, Louisa and Sierra. It was interesting that they were all younger students, but really not something to comment on. “In fact, I was referring to stichomancy. And rhapsodomancy, so two points to all four of you,” she replied with another smile, before being a bit more specific. “Yes, Helena, in many ways stichomancy could just be another term for bibliomancy in general, but in a more specific sense it is referring to the concept of randomization in picking the passage to interpret that is important to not getting a biased reading. Just as rhapsodomancy isn’t exactly the same as bibliomancy due to its use of poetry as opposed to any book.” They still were close enough that she’d wanted to discuss them, at least slightly. “Anyway, let’s move on, now that we’ve established an idea of what bibliomancy is and what it is not,” she said with a grin, walking a few more steps away from her table and the center of the room. Now seemed as good a time as any to go back to the method used in bibliomancy, at least, so she tried to direct them that way. “Basic bibliomancy has three steps it follows to do a reading. Does anyone want to give me one of those steps?” She figured at least the first one ought to be rather obvious, but any of the three would be better than her simply telling them all what to do. She was trying for a discussion after all. |
Kurumi nodded at Professor Bishop spoke a bit about the form of divination the third year had brought up. From the very small amount she had read about it, it had seemed like a very complicated for of the craft and, to be entirely honest, she was rather glad that they would not be diving into that subject today. She wasn't sure that her brain could handle the complexity right now. "Well, first you pick a book," Kurumi said after a few moments. "Then, you balance it on the spine and allowed it to fall open to whatever page it chooses to. Then, you close your eyes and pick a random passage." It actually seemed like a fun game to play at parties when you thought about it. Perhaps Kurumi could try it in the girls' dormitory sometime. |
SPOILER!!: Josh O_O Hmmm, she'd seen Josh get up, mostly because half her attention was on him during these lessons, so she rather expected him to sit next to her. Mostly because he was headed their way, and there was no reason NOT to sit next to her. ... Why wasn't he sitting next to her!? Oh...wait. Seeing HERSELF sitting there, Evelyn remembered that she was not herself at the moment. She was in fact Destiny. ZOMG and his answer was brilliant. Why didn't she think of that? SPOILER!!: TrainBoy O_________O A little put down that Josh didn't know she was actually Evelyn, even though it was slightly impossible to know unless she spoke up about it, the Slytherin girl leaned back in her seat all sad like and turned her attention elsewhere. She didn't want to see Josh giving DESTINY that expression. ...Apparently she was going to have to. Did TrainBoy just wink at her? *blink* What in Merlin's beard was that about? SPOILER!!: DestinyO__________________________O WHAT!? "I am NOT contagious!" Wait...what was Destiny talking about? ...This whole polyjuice thing was getting to her head. Quote:
Since Kurumi already answered though, and she figured a few more students would be doing so, Evelyn took this as a chance to ask a question that was bothering. Yes, it was REALLY bothering her. Much like how Josh believed Destiny was her. Meh. "Professor, does one have to balance the book on it's spine? Or can you just...drop it. Or fling it somewhere and see if it lands with it open." And could it be a quidditch book? |
The dismayed attitude was instantly gone by taking two points for her house! At the Professor's next question, she didn't need to think. it was very easy! She shot her hand in the air, "I know one!" Just to draw the attention over to her, "You choose the book you believe that tells the truth. Spin it or flip through the pages with your eyes close. Drop it and point your finger at a random paragraph with eyes still closed." and that sounded like a game she should elaborate on with some friends, pfft.. Divination can be silly sometimes. |
William raised his hand. " You scan also close the book and then find another passage" William said to the professor. " Then you will get a different outlook" Willaim told the professor. |
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Simon looked at the Professor, did she just say he had got a question right and that he as well as the other who had got it right got two points, that was just weird, he had never got anything right in Divination, in the four years he had been studying it. Simon suddenly fainted, he had no idea why he did maybe it was the shock of getting a question right. |
What what? Samira was confused....uhhhhhhhgggghh she wasn't good at Divination. She just wanted to drop her head and bang it repeatedly on the desk. Over and over and over and over.... Maybe if she just gave the same answer as everyone else she's be fine? "One step is to balance the book on the spine and let it fall open. Then you randomly pick a part in the book."Please be right, please be right... Samira crossed her fingers under the table. |
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... maybe Divination wasn't that bad. Alright. Back to bibliomancy. "We have to pick a book that we believe that holds truth, then we balance it on its spine and allow it to fall open," Helena said with her hand up, but then let it fall back down on the desk. "And then we pick a passage with our eyes closed." |
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Penny thought for few moments about what the steps were, the putting her hand in the air..."Professor, the person would need to focus their mind on the question...because you wouldn't get a true reading if your not properly focused" Then thinking some more.."Professor, say there was animals in the text or symbols - would they change the reading?" |
Making Maleficent growl slightly, Thea shifted her position. 'You'd need to pick a book.. obviously. But would you pick one at random or one to dowith your problem or question?' Thea's hands went up. She really wasn't sure! |
Gwen listened to the Professor talk, letting the information sink in. Then, she started thinking of an answer to that question. Hmm... 'You need to pick a book', the young Ravenclaw started saying. 'But this book you pick... eh... it should be the one you think that holds the truth' What kind of truth?, the girl asked herself, but decided to just go on. 'Then it is balanced on its spine and allowed to fall open.' And what would be the last step? hmm? You ... start reading? 'A passage is picked, with the eyes closed.', she gave it a shot. Yeah, that seems all right. While waiting around to find out if her answer is good, Gwen looked again at the books. When will we finally start doing something with those? |
Text Cut: answers :) Renée actually was rather pleased that so many people were willing to answer, as to the basic methods of bibliomancy. Of course, she wasn’t particularly surprised that Kurumi had given all three, but then, so had Samira, Helena and Gwen. “All of you are correct,” she said with a smile. “The basic method is to select a book, generally one that ‘holds truth’ or at least might have some relation to your question, balance it on its spine so it falls open to a random page, and then pointing to a passage with your eyes closed. And yes, as is true with just about any method of Divination, focus on the object of your search, the question, is necessary, ” she repeated, before glancing at “Destiny”. “I wouldn’t recommend throwing the book, even if it did land open. Especially with some Wizarding books, they might not appreciate the treatment,” she added with a wry smile. The owner of the book might not appreciate it either. But back to the rest of the answers, as some of them held questions that she figured probably should be answered. Some of them she thought had gotten answered in her earlier explanation, but she returned her glance to William. “I wouldn’t actually recommend that, as it takes away some of random quality of the reading. Unless you are using another method of choosing the passage, I would suggest selecting another book entirely if you felt the first reading wasn’t complete. Just like you would perform a second reading in Cartomancy if the first wasn’t clear. You wouldn’t just shift the cards around, or add more after your spread was complete.” And there she was, going back to what she was the most familiar with, so she turned her attention to some of the other questions. “I would think the presence of animals and/or symbols in the selected passage would make it a bit more difficult to interpret, but I don’t believe it would change the meaning entirely,” she added, in response to Penny’s question. The more details there were in the text, the more aspects would exist regarding possible meanings, but that only made the possibilities more open. Quote:
“Moving on,” she said finally, taking a breath. “It seems like a lot of you might be curious as to the types of books that can be used, so why don’t we discuss that a little. Obviously religious texts are used most often, but that doesn’t mean they are the only choices. There are historical instances of other books being used,” she continued, glancing out the window next to one of the bookshelves just to determine the time for a moment. There was still enough to hopefully help them all understand the lesson. “Can anyone suggest one of those instances, when a non-religious text was used?” For the time being, she’d stick with Muggle history, but she wanted to explore Wizarding possibilities shortly. Starting at the beginning was easiest, though. |
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Louisa stared at the fainting boy with a jaw-dropped effect. She thought she was dramatic! Looked like a Huffie just beat her to it. Okay, back to the lesson, she raised her hand, "Does Almanacs book work, Professor?" She wasn't sure, "It is an ancient book written by a diviner. Or was it about the bibliomancy rather than a tool in the process?" >__< |
Penny had heard of this Robert Browning in her Muggle primary school, before reading his poetry the teacher would give a brief history, and the girls on the class loved the romance of it all... Unfortunately, Sierra had just given him as an example - and Penny didn't know of anyone else... but she was still thinking hard for a second example. |
Kurumi thought for a moment and remembered a story that her brother, Junichiro, had told her when she was younger. Junichiro always hated the rainy day games they had played inside, Kurumi’s favorite being that they would turn to a random word in the dictionary, someone would read the definition, and then everyone would have to guess what the word was. Her father had come up with the idea as a means for them to practice their English, but Junichiro had never been one to study and had told her a terrible story. Kurumi hadn't been able to look at a dictionary for months. “I’ve heard stories about a serial killer named Dell who believes the dictionary is the most powerful book in the world. He would use the dictionary to guide all his actions.” |
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Well, after the last term's Muggle Studies lessons, Helena kept reading muggle books. Hehe. |
'I think there was.... an english poet Robert Browning?', the girl started saying. I know he is somehow related to this subject, but I'm not sure exactley how... Let's see...., Gwen thought, trying to come up with something.I read about him somewhere... 'I think... there might have been the situation of a book falling down from a shelf on its own', the Ravenclaw went on talking. So... what's the point? Decidin not to start the next sentance with 'I think', Gwen went on: 'He used this method to ask about the fate of his enchantment to Elizabeth Barret. He was at first disappointed to choose the book "Cerutti’s Italian Grammar", but on randomly opening it his eyes fell on the following sentence: ‘if we love in the other world as we do in this, I shall love thee to eternity'' There, that seems all right, hopefully... |
William raised hid hand. " I beleive you could read a book on Astrology" William told the professor and the class. |
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Simon looked at the Professor. "Professor Bishop, why am I on the floor?" Simon then half hear what she said, it had something to do with books. "Would you be able to use a children book?" |
Penny remembered something...putting her hand in the air again..."Professor there was a muggle writer called Jules Vern who wrote a fictional book about a guy who made another guy go blind by randomly pointing out a phrase in the 'Koran'..something about '"And he will no more see the things of this earth."' and the guy went blind". Thinking about it, Penny was sure she was right... but chances are she was wrong. |
"Shakespeare? Homer?" Savannah suggested. "And lots of other very famous writers?" She had lots of famous writers in mind that could be possibly used. |
Isabelle thought quietly for a moment. Then raised her hand. "Professor, can't you also use poetry books or dictionaries," Isa replied to the question feeling she was correct. |
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