"I agree," Antwone said under his spectacles.

ooc: refer back to my character's opinion above.

Jackie was nervous as only a tiny firsty, but she opened her mouth to speak nonetheless.
"I'm not sure I would be able to judge whether it's ever right to use an unforgiveable curse unless I was in a life or death battle situation sort of thing... We may all have opinions now, but our opinions could change if we ended up in battle with a Death Muncher- Eater! sorry..."

ooc: Wow, umm, maybe you should read the rules for RP. Don't RP for the professor, or anybody else for that matter please, they'll do it themselves.

Anthony looked around at the people who disagreed with using the unforgivable curses in times of need. He shot his hand in the air again.

"It's true that it's called dark magic for a reason. But it isn't true that a respectable wizard wouldn't use it to defend themselves," he cleared his throat and then explained further.

"It takes a fine wizard not to do dark magic in a tough situation. An extremely kind and brave wizard at that. However, it takes a great wizard to realize that it's not the spells you use that matter, but the way you use them," he finished.

Jackie put her hand up in the air.
"I agree, if you were in a battle situation I'm sure you'd be surprised how easy it is to just let an unforgiveable slip to defend youself. I think if I had to choose between my own life and a Death Eater's, I'd choose my own! Even if I had to use an unforgiveable thingy..."

Faye was slightly taken aback by Anthony's position on Unforgivable Curses.... at first. Well, It's obvious that he's not troubling himselve with being an "extremely kind and brave wizard" She thought.

"Personally, I don't want to be the kind of witch that resorts to an Unforgivable curse. I think a better witch or wizard can always find a better choice. Like another student mentioned, Petrificus Totallus is a very effective Curse, it can save your life in the face of a deadly duel. And there are other ways to win in a desperate situation, if you're just... well creative, and smart, and you think on your feet. I don't think there is any reason to fight using the means of the Unforgivable Curses, they're foul, they hurt people, they're offensive magic, with no defensive means whatsover."

"That's true," said Jackie, not sure who to agree with at such a young stage of her life. "I'd never use the torture one, but I might end up using the avada one if I had to choose between a Death Eater's life and my own, but I hope I never have to coz it is nasty... I'd never ever do cruci or imperi ones though, they're just... mean..."

sorry, double post

Emily's eyes widened. "omg!" she whispered quickly, "I am SO sorry." Then, trying overcome her embarrassment, "I'm Emily. Very nice to meet you." Then she looked at the beautiful shell in Taika Ai's hair. She was trying to figure out where Taika Ai had gotten the shell since last she checked it wasn't indigenous to England. Then she remembered seeing Taika Ai make it in Transfiguration. "Oooh" she exclaimed quietly, "I couldn't get my toothpick to transfigure properly at all." She pulled out her project from Transfiguration. It was a piece of parchment, except it was littered with toothpick bits, making it useless. She cast a jealous glance towards the shell and then giggled at her own handiwork. Suddenly she realized she had tuned the class out. She looked back to the front and listened to the debate, jotting down bits and pieces of what others were saying.

Brian quietly enters the class and takes a seat in the back. He takes out his things, and tries to pay attention without the Professor noticing his absense for most of the class.

Carolyn wrote notes and started to flip through her textbook.

"That's ridiculous. A simple defensive spell such as protego would stop a Petrificus Totallus curse, and it can't stop Avada Kedavra, nothing can. If an Avada Kedavra is shot at you, what are you prepared to do. Faced with death such as Avada Kedavra, Death is your only choice. However, if you can fire off one at the opponent first, you won't be vulnerable. This should be used as a last resort, it's true, but if you're in a situation and are faced with someone's death, either theirs or your own. Who's would you choose?" Anthony replied to the response.

"And they hurt people? Are you kidding me, if your dueling that's the point, what are you supposed to do? Shoot non-harmful spells at the opponent until they kill you? Plus, I always say, the best defense is a good offense..." Anthony finished, crushing every point made by the gryffindor.

Carolyn looked over at him. "Yeah, I agree with most of what you said. However, when someone says Avada Kedavra, that doesn't mean you'll die everytime. If they're inexperienced at such magic, you won't have to worry about being killed. Also, if they're a slow caster, you can do a little thing like MOVING out of the way. When they hear Avada Kedavra, they freeze and don't try to fight. They forget that for an average wizard, it takes about 3 seconds for a spell to go from incantation to contact and affect the wizard." She looked up at the professor. "Isn't that why you wanted us to move as fast as possible? To avoid being hit?" She looked back at him. "Didn't that cross your mind, even once? Besides, simple spells have been known to just as affective as illegal ones. Take the Graveyard battle between Voldy and Potter, Potter used Expelliarmus (sp?) and Voldy used Avada Kedavra, however, because they shared the same wand core they couldn't attack each other, but Avada Kedavra didn't get him, right? Also, I know that it isn't common to battle a wizard that has the same wand core as you, but it doesn't matter how many spells you know, it matters how you use them and how experienced you are. You could know the most powerful, dark, illegal spells, but if you can't perform them adequetly, you'll probably lose."

Jill nodded and silently agreed to what Carolyn was saying. Her notebook was out and open already and took some notes.

She raised her hand, "And also to perform the Avada Kadavra...don't you have to really hate, hate the person? If you have no feeling...it won't do much damage..." She turned to the professor, "Is that right?"

"No, you don't have to really hate, hate the person. You need to really want, want to kill the person. If you're in the situation, that want should be natural," Anthony said.

"However, as to the matter of whether or not the spell of Avada Kadavra would kill you or not," Anthony continued, "Is based on who you are fighting. Now, if you are fighting someone inexperienced with such magic, that resort shouldn't have to come to you. If you may have noticed, I said if you must, then use it. That means, if you are in the situation of fighting someone who can use Avada Kadavra, and use it well, then you should be able to use the spell yourself, without the care of whether or not it is right. As for quantity verse quality. Greatness will come with practice, ability increased with time. Why not practice all matters of wizardry and you will get better at all of them while time passes. Besides, if you're stuck in a locked room, I would rather be able to do Alohamora decently and Expelliarimus decently than being able to do Expelliarimus at an amazingly great level. This means, depending on the situation, quantity beats quality. Also, of course I thought of movement, don't underestimate my knowledge on both sides of the subject, but I thought it not wise to post an irrelevant fact when the odds point so much in the favor of my argument. A seller doesn't tell the flaws of his products, so why should I reveal the flaws of my argument, even though there are many more flaws on the other side of the argument. In the end, it's obvious the situations are rare, and the possibilities unlikely, however, if indeed you are stuck in the situation. Death should not be your option. Life should be your only conclusion, and if that means killing your opponent, so be it. Obviously, other means should be used first, but if it's him or me, I choose me," Anthony finished.

Jaimine rolled her eyes "He does make a good point." this boy was smart and besides she had nothing else to say after he said it all.

Ashley listened to what was said. Shaking her head she wrote somethings down and continued to listen.

"That's enough discussion. You all have loads of opinions, and I hope you can see this isn't an easy question. Let's go ahead and answer some of those questions."

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"I think one, the guilt could do you serious damange and two, no matter what there are consequences from the law, as I said before."

"What would happen in a situation like that?"

"Most Aurors refuse to use the Unforgivables, because we understand that our soul is in peril each time we use a Dark curse. Yes, there is most certainly guilt, but Aurors and ONLY Aurors have legal permission to use these curses in battle."

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"I agree that the Unforgivable Curses should only be used in extreme circumstances, such as when dueling with someone like Vodemortist. But if you can't use the Killing Curse, how will the battle end if it's a match to the death? Are there other spells that can be used to kill, Professor?"

"I don't understand this line of thinking, and I hear it from all of you. WHAT makes any of you think that a battle must end in death? Just because your opponent aims to kill you... is it harder to cast an Incarcerous or Stupefy than it is to cast the Killing Curse?"

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Brian quietly enters the class and takes a seat in the back. He takes out his things, and tries to pay attention without the Professor noticing his absense for most of the class.

"Five points from Gryffindor! I do not abide latecomers to my class, and you will be on time next time."

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Jill nodded and silently agreed to what Carolyn was saying. Her notebook was out and open already and took some notes.

She raised her hand, "And also to perform the Avada Kadavra...don't you have to really hate, hate the person? If you have no feeling...it won't do much damage..." She turned to the professor, "Is that right?"

"That's true, my dear," Rae nodded. "You must have rage and hate to perform it. Not fear... that isn't enough. It's a dark curse, afterall."

Rae turned and sat on the edge of the desk again. "Now, class... let's get to the fun part. We've talked about spells enough, let's cast some. Expelliarmus and Protego are on the lessons of the day. Does anyone have any questions regarding the casting?"

Jaimine raised her hand "Is there a specific stance for each one?"

"The stance is the same, but the wand motion is what differs. I want you to do a simple, small flick for Expelliarmus. Protego is more of a circle, drawn counter-clockwise as if to draw the shape of the shield."

Jezz looked up and raised her hand, something had been nagging in her mind and she had just figured out what, "Proffessor, can't fear itself cause hate? Not the normal type of hate, but hate all the same?"

Emily felt a thrill when she heard that they got to practice Expelliarmus and Protego. She quickly snatched up her wand and got ready to stand up. She was finding DADA to be one of her more interesting classes, especially because she enjoyed the debate. She really hoped she'd be good in this subject since she had been dreadful in every other class. She assumed it was because she was a first-year and really hoped it would improve, but all the same, to be naturally good at a subject would be lovely.

"Not the sort of rage that is needed. You may be angry with yourself or the other person for causing the fear, but it isn't murderous rage, and THAT is what is needed. Now, if that's all we've got, I'd like you to stand. You can practice by yourself if you need to get warmed up on stance and wand motions, but I'd like you to try working on reaction time by duelling with a partner. Find me if you have a question."

Amelia copied down what the Professor had to say on the subject of unforgivable curses, and then smiled when she said they would be practicing Protego and Expelliarmus charms. She had those motions down to a science over the summer, when her brothers let her practice the wand motions only.

She glanced around the classroom looking for an older student, or someone willing to duel.

Qaz stood up and practiced her stance and wand motions.

Audrey wrote down the last few words of the Professor and then looked around the room. She noticed a Hufflepuff girl standing alone as well, appearing as though she needed a partner. Audrey approached her and asked, "Hey, are you looking for a partner?"