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Old 01-18-2005, 09:48 AM
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Warner Bros. has offered the helm of a new production "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." to director Matthew Vaughn, after choosing British David Yates to direct Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, instead.

Insiders say Vaughn's pitch for Potter was a tad too graphic and violent for the studio's taste.

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I did slightly scare them by saying the next Potter has got to be more like 'The Dirty Dozen.' But I'm not going to be one of those directors who isn't honest about what he intends to do, and then changes everything when shooting has started and it's too late to fire him. I guess that's the producer in me...

People ask why I think I could direct a big movie like Potter or Bond, but making 'Lock, Stock' for $900,000 is harder than making 'Troy' for $200 million. You try making a small movie look like a bigger film, and produce it at the same time, and see how much your head gets fried in the process
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Layer Cake which starred Micheal Gambon
Snatch with Brad Pitt
Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels

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Cool, thanks Kazzybear! Matthew Vaughn is ace! Lock stock being my particular fave!

I think he could be onto something tho, no more namby pamby wishy washy rubbish in HP, there's too much in the first three films, esp the first 2 and the other books just get darker, esp OOTP. They need a dark, dark kick up the bottom with these films, and maybe a director who is slightly gung-ho about it could be the saviour of a possibly dismal film franchise, if they carry on like this they will just have another Batman shaped escapade - bleugh!
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Poor thing, I don`t know anything about those people.
But I`m sure: they shouldn`t change directors so often.
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Oh, I LOVE the direction in "Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels", I think it's amazing. He could've brought a real gritty sort of drama to the visuals. Ah well. Perhaps next time.
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actually, i wouldn't mind that michael guy. i like Snatch. besides, Ootp being violent and too graphic? why not? as it gets older, it gets harsher. isn't that what hp book are like?
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too true, but being the multi-national, multi-billion dollar mega media conglomerate that they are, WB will appeal to the masses, and in this case the masses is kids, so the films will never ever be as dark as the books, which is an utter shame because we've all grown with the books, and that shows with the way Jo has written them
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I think he could be onto something tho, no more namby pamby wishy washy rubbish in HP...
Couldn't have put it better myself!!!
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Harry Potter lusts after Cho Chang in OotP, so I don't see anything wrong with his vision *shrug* Heaven forbid the dreaded 's' word be used in relation to Potter *rolls eyes* Such silly irony. Especially considering the UST of R/Hr, the whole hormone-charged relationship (if you can call it that) of H/C and the whole increase of dating in the fifth novel.

When will people learn, Harry Potter isn't a child, he's a teenager.

Oh and violent? A mass murderer trying to desparately kill a teenager so he can have world domination? A horde of Death-Eaters chasing six students around the Department of Mysteries, using unforgiveable curses on them? I suppose that's not in the least bit violent...

Biggest load of tosh I've ever heard personally. Next thing, they'll be trying to declare Harry Potter should be completely 'child friendly'. Ridiculous. I really wish they'd stop assuming that catering purely for the kiddies, is the right thing to do. Harry in himself, isn't a kid, so why should they treat his film like one?

*too frustrated for words*

I really hope GoF lives up to expectations. I want to be horrified, I want the final scenes to be so scary that I go to bed that night, having nightmares about Lord Voldemort. Harry Potter, to some extent, is meant to be violent, scary, hormonal.

Maybe the title for this should be "OotP almost directed properly." LOL

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Mathew Voughn will bring out the best in this film!
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^ He's not doing it, David Yates is...
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^ He's not doing it, David Yates is...
Sorry, my bad.
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i don't know who going to be the director.
i know that movie going to be great.
all three hp movie were great.
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David Yates will be, the article clearly states it and we announced the news months ago.
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too true, but being the multi-national, multi-billion dollar mega media conglomerate that they are, WB will appeal to the masses, and in this case the masses is kids, so the films will never ever be as dark as the books, which is an utter shame because we've all grown with the books, and that shows with the way Jo has written them
*sigh* Yeah...

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I really wish they'd stop assuming that catering purely for the kiddies, is the right thing to do. Harry in himself, isn't a kid, so why should they treat his film like one?
Yeah I can see your point Emma...
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I don't know why they are getting upset about someone saying it would be like "Dirty Dozen". Truthfully I have never heard of the movie let alone seen it, but all in all the OotP is a bit darker than the other books. It's not his fault. He just notices that it is darker and it will be a bit harder to keep it "up beat" when that is just how the book is. This is when the plot I guess you can call it thickens and everything is getting into it's place for Voldemort becoming more powerful and about to take over. That's just how it is. It's not like Voldemort is just going to fall over dead and let everyone live, he's going to be just about like Hiltler and murder everyone. That is almost like someone trying to "suger coat" what Hilter did.

I love Ms. Rowling and I love the Harry Potter books. It's just that the books will get a bit darker and a bit more violent because the bad guy who is a nightmare and a pain, is about to take over (or try) and he's not going to be pretty about it. Anyone who has read the books know what Voldemort is capable of and they know what he's done and what his minions (deatheaters) have done and know what kind of "unkindly" things they do to people.

I guess that's enough rambling for now. I hope you all don't get confused with my yapping. Lol.
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I know exaclty how you feel Em! It's just not fair! We should be shaking in our lil socks when we leave GOF and we should be near enough the same when we leave after OOTP, only combined with extreme amounts of tears!

*steam pours out of ears at the stupidness of WB* grrr!
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OMG i agree with Emma imagine if Harry Potter get married how will WB cope with his wedding night? what will he just go to bed? come on lol...

it ouwld have been cool but we have this guy who i know nothign about like Alfonso so my hopes are HIGH
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David Yates will be, the article clearly states it and we announced the news months ago.
What you mean we're supposed to read the article before we post? I suppose you want me to read other people's posts first too?

But seriously, half the reason I read the news is to hear you tell people what the articles already says Marcella *winks*

Just a thought, but if you walk into a movie thinking it sucks chances are your expectations will be met. Give it a half a chance, GoF isn't even out yet, much less done. Every movie has had a different director, thus the different interpretations, despite the same cast.

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*steam pours out of ears at the stupidness of WB* grrr!
WB isn't stupid sweetie, its those evil Hollywood executives who want money, not art, just money...pity they can afford both.

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But I'm not going to be one of those directors who isn't honest about what he intends to do, and then changes everything when shooting has started and it's too late to fire him.
I like his movies, but this alone makes him an idiot. Do you really think a giant Hollywood studio is going to hand you over its Golden Goose and tell you cook it anyway you want? I mean seriously, look at Batman [someone said that already].
I like his movies, except Layer Cake, haven't seen that one, but HP isn't Dirty Harry or Dirty Dozen, and lets not exxagerate. Besides, I think Dirty Dozen is tame by todays standards no? And it isn't a horror pick so its doubtful anyone would leave quaking in their boots.

Quentin Tarantino people...that's what I've always said...and the dialogue would be punchy too. I still think Samuel Jackson would make a good Shackelbolt...
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nah i always thought that tim burton would have been great but only in POA
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Harry Potter lusts after Cho Chang in OotP, so I don't see anything wrong with his vision *shrug* Heaven forbid the dreaded 's' word be used in relation to Potter *rolls eyes* Such silly irony. Especially considering the UST of R/Hr, the whole hormone-charged relationship (if you can call it that) of H/C and the whole increase of dating in the fifth novel.

When will people learn, Harry Potter isn't a child, he's a teenager.

Oh and violent? A mass murderer trying to desparately kill a teenager so he can have world domination? A horde of Death-Eaters chasing six students around the Department of Mysteries, using unforgiveable curses on them? I suppose that's not in the least bit violent...

Biggest load of tosh I've ever heard personally. Next thing, they'll be trying to declare Harry Potter should be completely 'child friendly'. Ridiculous. I really wish they'd stop assuming that catering purely for the kiddies, is the right thing to do. Harry in himself, isn't a kid, so why should they treat his film like one?

*too frustrated for words*

I really hope GoF lives up to expectations. I want to be horrified, I want the final scenes to be so scary that I go to bed that night, having nightmares about Lord Voldemort. Harry Potter, to some extent, is meant to be violent, scary, hormonal.

Maybe the title for this should be "OotP almost directed properly." LOL
I agree, book five is much darker and more adult than the other books. I always feel that JK writes in a way that is appropriate to the age that Harry is in the book. I can't imagine ,many ten year olds tackling book 5 anyway as it is so long! So maybe they should make the next film a 15 so they can really delve into Harry's emotions, show a bit more violence and of course there is the kissing scene!
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they seem to think that everyone who reads hp is a child i mean they put it on the kids bestseller list what do ya expet and we better see wormtails arm cut off OR ELSS
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hm...i hope david does a good job on ootp...
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maybe if they gave the movies a higher rating (PG-13, etc, but please, just not R lol) he would've been able to do it. i've never seen any of matthew's films, but i have heard of the dirty dozen..
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