I'm not sure about other schools, but in my high school *which is a public school* our teachers used to swear, and make jokes... but recently there has been a big thing about discrimination and offending students... which has stopped teachers from even making jokes... but then again, this is coming from a principle that thinks that its appropriate to put up fences with spikes on top around the school, just because there was graffiti commenting on her genitals...

I think that what happened may not be deemed appropriate by some, but it just seems like a *kinda lame* attempt to connect with the students, they are teenagers after all, and if one person doesn’t know what he means then there would be another that could tell them about it...

But then again… this opens up the school to legal attacks due to the offence that students could take to comments on sexuality etc. etc. Which is probably the main reason for the fuss… but G. P. Taylor has seemed to have taken this and used it for his own gain *publicity etc.*

So, although GP Taylor has used sexuality in a way that many people from the gay community could find offensive, they weren’t his words… he was simply quoting a television show that he thought would help him reach out to a younger audience…

But hey! That’s just my opinion
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Georgie

I don`t think that was appropriate .. what was the joke part?

ummmmm.....ok!!??

LAMB, plz don't say fag. It's offensive to me because I'm Bi as well.

Its a joke that is from the show "Little Britian". Americans can watch it through BBCAmerica... >.> Atleast thats how I watched it when I got the channel. >.< Anyway, it was just a joke. Like if you quote something from South Park "Drugs are bad, umkay?" .. or Will and Grace.. "It's JACK!" I mean.. c'mon. I understand the lawsuits though the parents will give to the school.. they needed to watch out. I do think they should have told GP what to say beforehand. Atleast give him a "do not say" list.

That wasn't that bad, but I dunno. I respect everyone's opinion, and I think people have a right to say what they want to.

That is very odd and weird, and I agree that it could very well have been a joke. THey shouldn't make a really big deal about it.

I know he didn`t mean to talk about Harry Potter that way, but it still wasn`t nice.

*stares* What in the world makes you so hot-dog special that I would actually try to change your opinion? Just because I quote your post does not mean I want to change your opinion. I quote your post then say what I disagree with in it. I honestly don't care if you believe the moon is made of cheese.

I quoted Ottery earlier (Sorry, Otts, for bringing you up, but I think it makes a good example) and he didn't think I was trying to change his opinion. Good reason for it too, I Wasn't.

The only reason I even quoted you earlier is because you were accusing Emma of trying to change your mind when she was merely explaining the difference between Offensive and Wrong, which you were using interchangably. There is a difference.


Now, on to your post. Why should anyone expect teachers to raise children? Yes, children and teens spend 6-7 hours a day in school.....that still leaves 17 hours outside of school where parents, coaches, mentors, guardians, older siblings, spiritual advisors, etc are the main influence. Not to mention that teachers only influence children for a year, and for teens an hour a day.....when there's class. We are both entirely ignoring weekends, holidays, and breaks where there aren't teachers and sometimes not even coaches. Yes, parents work, but there are still others there. Teachers are not the be all and end all of influences. Influence starts at birth (and there's studies being done to prove before birth).


I'm not saying they should know what will be said, but if they're so upset over specific words, then they should have given a G.P. Taylor a "do not say" list, in which they would list which would tell him specific words that wouldn't be allowed. Everyone is ignoring the other words they listed as a reason for escourting him out. "Fart", "Boogey", "Bum" seriously. These Teenagers say worse than that on a daily basis.


*wonders if I will again be accused of trying to change your mind*

It's good to know you won't change your view, although you're very paranoid that I'm trying to. If you're that paranoid that I'll say something to make you change your mind, then I don't want your opinion to agree with mine. If your stance is that weak..........*stops before I get yelled at by the goddess of news*

So, if you think I'm just trying to change your mind, don't bother quoting this. I'm getting rather fed up of going around in circles with you. Stop arguing a non-issue.

I think the man was only trying to say to the kids that they can read other books besides the HP books, maybe he said it in a way that was inappropriate for kids, but still I think they overreacted to that.

What is your problem, just because someone doesn't agree with you, you don't have to go all nuts and give me rant about what you think, cos I don't really care, you are quoting me over and over again, so what's the matter with you, I already told you what I think, and you keep bringing it up!! So STOP doing that!!!

Teachers are suppose to give good examples to kids, and yes they are not the primary source in any kid's life but they have a great responsibility with kids, parent's give this responsibility to the teacher, they are in charge of this kids for a good amount of time, and in any moment I said that the teachers are more important that any kid's parents, contrary to what you said, I said that AFTER the parents the teachers are the one who spend more time with this kids, given them the 2nd source of influence.

And one thing is teens using these words and another is that teachers or whoever is giving these kids any source of knowledge, using these words.

And no one told you to go circles with me, I never reply to your responses you were the one who started this, I am just giving my opinion and it looks like that bothers you, so stop replying to my post, because to me I think you are the one who is paranoid.

>.<

Yeah.. Teachers should remember they are supposed to be examples to kids. I guess one would have had to have been there to understand the real situation.

>.<

*snorts*

And I told you why I responded to you in the first place.

If You think I'm trying to change your opinion just because I'm stating why I disagree with you, then grow up. The universe does not revolve around you and your little opinions. I think someone got uptight about me calling her paranoid.

Um.....then what did you just do?

You cannot tell me what to do, nor what to believe. If I disagree with something you post, I have every right to reply to it. You don't want me to keep replying to you? Then stop replying to me saying the same thing you always say. I hate repeating myself, which I have to do with you constantly.

You're the one going nuts, you're the one yelling. I'm sitting here rather calmly, expressing my views.

Teachers are not as big of an influence as you think. Maybe in primairy school, but not the ages we're discussing here. The list I gave earlier were bigger influences than teachers. I don't think it's fair to call teachers a second family when they only see the kids for about 5 hours a week (35 out of 168 for primary), when there is a full week of school. If that's your opinion, fine. But I don't agree and I never will. Kids aren't in school as long as you're trying to make out. But, maybe you had a teacher that was like a mother or father to you. Fine. That's still your opinion, but not mine.

Now, to stop spamming (*cough*)


Since I'm sure the teens would have seen the program, I don't think it was very inappropriate, but I can understand why someone may see that. It gives a fine example of what too much political correctness can do (or does) to situations that could be turned around or merely ignored.

I still agree that they over reacted. Fart, Bum, and Boogey are hardly reasons to escourt someone out of the hall, it's ludacris to do the same when someone just uses pop culture to drive home a point, and I still think it would have been more effective to disscuss it in the class room after the assembly/lecture or the next day (depending on when it was held, of course). Now, all they've done, is make it seem like forbidden fruit and encourage worse behaviour.

Little or not they are my opinions, and you are the one who is disrespecting me.....it looks to me that you are not mature enough, you try to intimidate me using your so call smart comments like "little opinions" to you maybe they are, since you get all upset against whoever disagree with you!!!

When I said response I was talking about the person who initiated this entire thing, if you go back some pages, I posted my opinion, but you were the one that start getting all upset just because I wasn't thinking your way or Emma, I don't care if you agree with her, you started this situation, not me.

Am I telling you what to do? Just simply because I am asking you to respect my opinions!!

If I am saying the same thing then why you keep replying over and over again saying the same thing too, if you are tired of repeating yourself then don't do it!

And me Yelling? Just because I am trying to emphasize some words in caps, doesn't mean I am yelling, I think you are the one crossing the line here, I was minding my own business, just making a comment about this guy and you came here and started replying to my comments not me, but you!


Well I don't agree with you, I don't know where go to school, because where I live we have at least 6 hours in school if not more, and maybe you are the one talking about your own experience, in regards of me I had wonderful teachers and most of my classmates found our teachers to be great mentors, so now I hope respect my opinion, and you are the one spamming here not me!

Anyway...

This is an interesting event and all. What comes down to it is the school trying not to get sued by parents. Whether the kids didn't give a hoot or not. They just want to keep out of the hoozgow. Times are so delicate that people can get a lawsuit on their hands for the simpliest things.

My teachers are just as bad as us kids.

Yes, I'm very upset. I'm heartbroken *tear*

You notice, I'm not using exclamation points...... or flaming

No. I agreed with Emma that there is a difference between Wrong and Offensive. There is a difference. That has nothing to do with your opinion. It's common fact.
Do I REALLY need to show you what you said?
Yeah.....that's not telling me what to do. Are you the eldest?

You've noticed I've changed the wording and offered Dictionary defences this time :evillaugh

It also means you didn't read the rules. Typing in all caps is, besides annoying, seen as yelling, and is called flaming. You're not supposed to do it. (Hint:if you want to emphasize words, use the bold selection in the toolbar )

And It is my right to say what I disagree with about your post. It just makes it easier for people to refer to the posts if they look at them in one posting. Doesn't mean I care about changing your opinion, which you've been constantly accusing anyone who doesn't agree with you of doing.

Jr High and HS meant that I had each teacher for only an hour. I was there from 7 to 3, so I had 8 hours of school. Plus my extracurriculars, but since those weren't teachers, they don't count.

You are the one spamming because you are the one posting off topic of the thread. By strictly replying to me, you are spamming.


But this was also in Britain where people aren't sued left and right for dumb reasons. Most parents over there also seem to trust their children to know what's right and wrong, especially since age of consent is 16, not much older than these teenagers mentioned. People are always saying that kids are growing up faster, it's because there's more to deal with at younger ages. Why should we continue to treat them as children when the real world is out there to take away their innocence? Yes, I believe we should protect them as long as we can, but seriously, at 12 the apron strings need to start being cut otherwise they'll be fully dependent on others.

I think your right!
I agree with you...

I also understand the quote also that the guy used. In fact, it makes more sense than other Little Britian quotes. He chose a good one! I mean.. "I want a whippy" wouldn't do at all. >.>

Exactly.

Or "Um...yeah, and and and then, and Whatever" (shoplifting girl) Little Britain is very popular in the UK so using a quote from it made sense. Honestly, who should he have quoted? The Beatles? "HP isn't Bigger than Jesus you know"

Oh wait, it was only quoted as that in the US, they said they were more popular than Jesus. So, no, the American quote wouldn't have worked at all. tsk tsk tsk.......

umm... why would little little kids be watching little britian? I love that show its so kool.

These weren't little kids.

There is this problem with people: they don´t remember that priests are (only) human, they are not Gods ... So they probably couldn´t even imagine a priest would say something inappropriate

Some priests know what jokes are appropriate only with friends and what jokes you can tell when you are "being a priest". I know some priests who can tell real bad jokes, but couldn´t imagine them going to a school and tell them. Or to some respectable old people either.

I remember when I was a teenager myself, and there was a priest who tried to be a "tough guy" when talking to us. I thought he was ridiculous. So maybe some of those teenagers thought alike?

I can't believe this guy's a priest. How tactless of him to say something like that!

^^ Like I said: the guy is only a priest (= a humanbeing), not a god ...

I hate his book, but I feel sorry for him here. Doesn't everyone in Britain know the "I'm the only gay in the village!" line? Jeez! And the other words - ooh yeah, I'm sure none of the students knew those words... come on, didn't we learn those "swear" words when we were 3 years old?!

if anyones to blame its GP Taylor for saying harry potter's gay, did he think noone would be annoyed!