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MugglesStink! 09-09-2010 08:25 PM

Department of mysteries battle. Ahhhh. She remembered her uncle talking about how muggleborns and children were useless when it cam to fighting. "Well, I think that it is AMAZING how only 5th years can do that. I mean, a bunch of kids vs an army of death eaters, you would say the kids would have no chance!" thats all she had to say, considering that was the only thing she knew.

Kris 09-09-2010 08:29 PM

Alex sat listening to all the different answers, History was one of her worst subjects so she sat and listened as she took notes on everything she thought was important.

hpluvr037 09-09-2010 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)
"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

Keefer had been quiet til now, but this time he raised his hands (yes, hands) into the air. "Professor, it seems like if you come from a family that had someone who worked for the Ministry at the time, they would be far more likely to have a negative view of it. After all, to me it just sounds like an epic struggle for your life, a battle between two determined sides over a small orb of glass."

Like those Muggle video games, except those are usually with guns and soldiers, not wands and wizards.

"But if, say, my grandmother used to be an Unspeakable at the time and I had grown up hearing about the battle, I probably would have heard a different spin of the story. Like, maybe she would talk about how terrible it was that no one was punished or made to pay for all the damages that were done and that the Ministry just had to eat the losses."

He imagined a short, pompous man in a plush office, irate over the problem of not being able to balance the budget.

"Her story and opinions would bias my opinion of the events, which might in turn bias anyone I discussed it with."

Danny Boy 09-09-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)
"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"[/COLOR]

Daniel sighed. Questions on Harry Potter? Really? Was there no one else in the world who was famous? But still Daniel raised his hand " It was when Harry Potter and his friends went to the ministry of magic. The thought that Voldermort was there and they had the courage to face him. His friends were very loyal to Harry even if he didn't do alot for them. For instance Luna Lovegood had barely know Harry for about one year when this battle happened and her and Harry weren't the best of friends but still she wanted to help. It was a good verses evil fight. But there is something else I want to say. Although Harry was very brave his desire to help others sometimes clouded his judgement. If he hadn't gone then perhaps Sirus Black would never have died"

Magical Soul 09-09-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)
"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

Louisa's mind raced fast. The Department of Mysteries Battle wasn't mentioned in details in the book she was reciting from. But she could do with some participation.

She raised her hand, "It was the first encounter between the survivor of the killing curse and the dark wizard that casted that spell. I think it was the first encounter that took place in public in front of other wizards and witches." She paused trying to remember whether or not this battle actually triggered the final war or not. Better leave this detail.

"It was the battle that destroyed the time-turners for good too." She was sure of this one. She wanted to have one and found out that they were gone. Forever. Pity.

AlwaysSnapesGirl 09-09-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)
"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

History of Magic was definitely Vashti's favorite subject, which was why she paying as close attention as possible to the discussion at hand and jotting down whatever notes she could. Finally, she couldn't stand not answering any longer. Moving her name plate a little closer to the edge of her desk and out of her way...

SPOILER!!: nameplate thing
Vashti Greenwell
Ravenclaw
Third Year


...she raised her hand and offered an answer, "Well the Battle of the Department of Mysteries was fought by Harry Potter, Ronald Weasley, Hermione Granger, Luna Lovegood, Neville Longbottom, um...oh! Ginny Weasley, and several members of the Order of the Phoenix against various Death Eaters and Lord Voldemort towards the end of it. It's a bit hard to say who won though, or I think it is. Both sides lost something. The Order lost one of its members, Sirius Black, but Lord Voldermort lost the secrecy he had before the battle when a lot of people didn't think he was alive again." Hopefully that made sense and she'd remembered all the names correctly. It made sense in her head, as most things she said did.

Zellanna 09-09-2010 09:52 PM

Lina didn't know, really. It was all history book stuff. She personally didn't have any history, or at least it felt like it. She didn't even have half of her childhood in her mind. If no one remembers it, did it even happen? But while she was thinking about this, a curious thing happened.

"The Battle of the Department of Mysteries was a stellar battle," she said, though barely realizing she was talking. "It was a key transition between the time of peace and waiting, and the official start of the next war. Everyone was peaceful, with only those who really thought and had open minds being worried about Voldemort's return. Everyone else thought that Harry Potter had already saved them all. No one wanted to believe there would be another war. Somewhat analogous to the ignorance in the United States at the beginning of World War II. No one wanted to get into it again. But this battle brought the people into the war, not just the soldiers... The public rather than the Order and the Death Eaters. And it cast the world in fear again. Because even if there was a hope or prophecy, everyone had to place their lives and livelihoods in the hands of one young boy." The way she said it made it sound like she'd had some sort of personal grudge against the time, though Lina hadn't really noticed herself, and her demeanor didn't match her tone.

Wonderstruck 09-09-2010 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)

"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

Alice had been writing down everything the students and Professor had been saying. Sadly, she felt this was going to be somewhat difficult because she only knew about muggle wars and muggle history. Not to mention she had no clue as to what the department of mysteries was...although wait. She raised her hand.

"Um, Professor? Was that the battle with Harry Potter and his friends against death eaters over a prophecy? And at some point in time didn't Albus Dumbledore a former headmaster here fight against Voldemort? I remember reading that one of them used the Reducto spell to cause the shelves to fall on the death eaters."

Alice had read about those people, and knew they were incredibly important in why the wizarding world was the way it was as she was speaking. However, she still wondered if it was bad to say Voldemort's name or not.

Jason Potter Weasley 09-09-2010 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9765289)
"Yes, personal experiences would have an effect on your view of history. That is a good example."

"Another good example. Those in the Wiltshire would view the battle differently than say someone that lived in Surrey or in Aberdeen."

"Yes, we are all important. As are our views and opinions. Each of us can look at a certain point in history and view it slightly different than the next person."
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"No, you can gave any example of a battle, muggle or wizarding. History really don't discriminate. History is history. But keep in mind, some battles fought in the muggle world share similaries with battles in the wizarding wars." she smiled. So many good examples and questions, she liked this bunch of students.

Blinking a bit, she listened to what Miss Bott was saying and nodded. "That is an interesting view, Miss Bott. Yes, famous people tend to be remembered and known, but even those that aren't famous can play a role in history as well. Think of it as a puzzle. Yes, you have the centre where all the pieces fit together and made the picture that you need, but you still have the pieces around it that play their part to make the puzzle whole. As you mentioned, you consider these battles a dark mark, but necessary."
"There is no need to think of an actual battle that has happened where you live," she smiled as she addressed the Head Girl. "You can think of any battle in general that could be view differently due to the location you are in. I recall someone mentioning the world wars."

"That is a very good point as well, Miss O'Reilly. Those that have events like wars and battles are bound to view other similar events in the same light, when those that have no history in it view it in a different light."

"Yes, our history does that for us. It is said that those that don't know history are bound to repeat it. But then again, history does teach us the mistakes we are going to make again."

"Those are good examples as well. Brother against brother. That was a rather important turning point in the history of America was it not?" Blinking a bit, she raised an brow at the Gryffindor. Was he asking her, the professor to tell him about why such a battle was fought? Wasn't she the professor here. Shaking her head, she looked back to the boy and nodded. "Many would say the Civil War was fought over rights of one side over the other, but we are not here to speak of that history. Perhaps another lesson."
"Yes, Miss Flores-Shepard. That is a good example as well. Do keep that battle in mind, for we will come back to that in another lesson."

"And again we have another great example of how regional history can affect peoples views."

"Yes, Miss Carter. I do believe we will get back to the battle you are thinking of shortly. Yes, there are many muggle battles we could think of, but do keep them in mind as well for other lesson."

"Excellent examples, Mister Hudson! Those three events would surely influence how a region would view similar events."

Yes, great discussions in this class. Sylvie was rather please with it. Glancing back to the map behind her, she pointed her wand at the bulk of the blue point.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t.../EuropeMap.jpg


"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

"Well, All i remember is there had been a lot of casualyies during the battle" Rex told the professor. " A lot of good people lost their lives" Rex said to the professor. " Good thing, Harry, hermoine and Ron were there or there would have been a lot more casualties" Rex explained to the professor.

WillowSeawinds 09-09-2010 10:05 PM

Rowan was at a complete loss. Her parents died when she was too young to learn much about magic and she had lived with muggles ever since. What was the Ministry of Magic?

potiongirl10 09-09-2010 10:17 PM

Amy knew about the battle at the ministry of magic but not very much she just listened to the others and scribbled down more notes

Steelsheen 09-09-2010 10:56 PM

*desparately catching up* >_<
 
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Looking toward the source of the sound, Sylvie offered a smile and nodded. "Good morning, that sounded a bit painful. Are you okay?" she asked. Bruises were never a fun thing.

Salander turns back to the Professor and returns her concern with a silly grin he was unaware has formed on his face "I'm okay." he responded dreamily, totally forgetting the throbbing pain on his knee.

He took the parchment and marker when instructed then paused. It may be such a simple thing for most people, but Salander always find it an embarrassing exercise to write his name. Mostly because it was ridiculously long. Learning how to write it for the first time in pre-school wasnt fun nuh-uh.

He decided to keep it simple, both for the Professor's sake and his own.

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S. Salander
Slytherin-- 4th year
California, USA
SPOILER!!: California Represent! ;)

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Originally Posted by DH Vixen (Post 9764040)

"Good morning students, as you may already know I am Professor Welton and I will be your History Of Magic professor this term. I was once a student here at Hogwarts and I know of much fun this class can be, but that amount of fun also depends on you," she announced as she pulled her wand out and tapped the map. Zooming in on the Northern Hemisphere, tiny little points appeared across the map.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t...etownmap-1.jpg

Turning back to the class, she smiled. "Now, can anyone tell me what the map shows us?"


"Yes, that is what the map shows us. A slight cross-section of where we are all from. Thank you to everyone that did volunteer such information." She did really enjoy those that were so willing to give information like so. "Now, why would the location of your origin be important to history?"



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Yes, great discussions in this class. Sylvie was rather please with it. Glancing back to the map behind her, she pointed her wand at the bulk of the blue point.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t.../EuropeMap.jpg


"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"

"That was a kickass battle. Its when the little guys went up against the big guys." Yeah he liked them Harry Potter stories. "I mean yeah sure in hindsight Potter and some of Dumbledore's Army were real foolish for going it alone, on largely unverified intel, but I gotta hand it to them that they didnt back down even if they knew they were way in over their heads."

TeafortheSoul 09-09-2010 11:01 PM

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James Wilkes
5th year
Ravenclaw
Wiltshire
Jimmy was studiously appearing to not be paying attention. It was hard work. He actually was listening quite closely. He decided to distract himself with pretty girls.

Eh. Tuney was the closest. He winked at her and gave her his best lopsided grin.

XxWitchy_GothicaXx 09-09-2010 11:06 PM

Vilhelmiina created her nametag for the professor.

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Vilhelmiina Sirius Black
Hufflepuff
Second Year
England/Finland

Mad Eye Touz 09-09-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tegz (Post 9766337)
Jimmy was studiously appearing to not be paying attention. It was hard work. He actually was listening quite closely. He decided to distract himself with pretty girls.

Eh. Tuney was the closest. He winked at her and gave her his best lopsided grin.



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Neptune couldn't NOT grin back. Not at first, at least. But she finally got it wiped off enough to give Mr. Wilkes the scolding finger. WAGGLEWAGGLE. "You should answer the question," she whispered. "Ravenclaws answer questions." Did he know?

TeafortheSoul 09-09-2010 11:11 PM

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Neptune couldn't NOT grin back. Not at first, at least. But she finally got it wiped off enough to give Mr. Wilkes the scolding finger. WAGGLEWAGGLE. "You should answer the question," she whispered. "Ravenclaws answer questions." Did he know?

"You shouldn't distract me in class, Neptune Bott." Jimmy pointed out.

Pfffft. Ravenclaws.

He'd not answer the question just because of that.

longanna99 09-09-2010 11:51 PM

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Anna Love
Gryfindor
First Year
Ireland/Scotland/England

Anna sat there with her name tag on with a fresh sheet of parchment and a quill in hand. She was ready. Her father had told her about this/ Her hand shot confidently into the air. "The Battle of the Department of Mysteries had a big impact on the wizarding world and opened people's eyes about Voldemort."

Anais 09-10-2010 12:02 AM

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Yes, great discussions in this class. Sylvie was rather please with it. Glancing back to the map behind her, she pointed her wand at the bulk of the blue point.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t.../EuropeMap.jpg


"Now, given that a majority of us are from the same region, we are all taught the same history. But as individuals, we are bound to understand them differently. For starters, let's talk about the Battle of the Department of Mysteries. Any thoughts?"


Sapphinelle sharply raised her hand in the air.
"I think that it was an unfair loss of Sirius Black, but Professor Dumbledore fought a very good battle through the end. It was a grave battle." she said with a sad tone, putting her hand down. She loved History of Magic, but she really hated hearing about the losses.

Hermione J. Granger 09-10-2010 12:56 AM

Hermione was writing down notes as fast as her quill could go. The Department of Mysteries Battle certainly did sound familiar. Maybe she read about it in a book once she thought.

BearyMay 09-10-2010 01:29 AM

Dianna raced her hand.
"Oh! There was a battle between Voldemort and Albus Dumbledore that happened right at the ministry's Atrium! Also Harry Potter,Hermione Granger,Ronald Weasley,Ginny Weasley,Neville Longbottom and Luna Lovegood battled against some death eaters. Although if I am not mistaken, Harry's godfather, Sirius Black perished there.." Dianna said.

hannah_bry27 09-10-2010 01:42 AM

Putting the finishing touches on her nametag, Autumn looked up again. She wasn't sure about any of this battle stuff, but hey, she was here to learn about it, right? She jotted down a few notes based on what her classmates were saying. Hopefully some of them knew what they were talking about, or her notes would be very sad indeed... She had heard about the Department of Mysteries battle before... She didn't know very much about it, but her parents had told her the stories about Harry Potter and his friends when she was young, and she remembered it having something to do with him.

PattyH. 09-10-2010 01:48 AM

"The Battle of the Department of Mysteries, was a turning point in the second coming of Voldemort." Patroclus grinned at the fantastic new professor- he would have to go and see if she knew his father later -back to the lesson.

"If it had not been for the determined effort of Harry Potter and his friends, the wizarding world would have remained ingorant of Voldemort's return for quite sometime. The child exhibted outsatnding courage, but also a lack of preparation. Potter's heor complex almost allowed his friends to die, and in fact resulted in the death of his God Father. In saying that, I would have done exactly the same as he did, but the power of hindsight, and all that jazz."

Patroclus grinned, he liked this lesson.

Anais 09-10-2010 01:56 AM

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"The Battle of the Department of Mysteries, was a turning point in the second coming of Voldemort." Patroclus grinned at the fantastic new professor- he would have to go and see if she knew his father later -back to the lesson.

"If it had not been for the determined effort of Harry Potter and his friends, the wizarding world would have remained ingorant of Voldemort's return for quite sometime. The child exhibted outsatnding courage, but also a lack of preparation. Potter's heor complex almost allowed his friends to die, and in fact resulted in the death of his God Father. In saying that, I would have done exactly the same as he did, but the power of hindsight, and all that jazz."

Patroclus grinned, he liked this lesson.
"I agree with...Patroclus?" Sapphinelle asked quizzically in her french accent while pointing at his name tag. She gave a small laugh and turned back to the Professor.
"He makes a very valid point. It would have been better with preparation, but you can't really prepare for situations like that. It was very skilled of him." she said with a small nod. Yayy, a class with fellow smarties. hehe.

Walrus 09-10-2010 02:11 AM

Jacob stared at the marker... NamePlate! Wait... did that mean where he lived now or was born... cause he didn't know where he was born... Crazy right, he just lived all over.

SPOILER!!: nameplate

Jacob Blunt
Fourth Year
Ravenclaw
Scarborough, North Yorkshire


Jacob now stared at the map. Ha! He isn't Crazy... there actually is a map. So there, the crazy doctor doesn't have to see him. But maybe he might introduce JD to the crazy doctor... cause you know, he was seeing invisible bugs. At least JD wasn't seeing his Monkey... Unless He was! Jacob would have to talk to the boy about that.

What? There was a battle in the Department of Mysteries... isn't that the really mysterious, noone knows place in the ministry. No Wait thats the Maintainence office. But Mysteries had all that security... how would there be a battle in there? Jacob was so lost.

brelovesweasleys 09-10-2010 02:33 AM

Needs to seriously catch up.
 
Salander huh? Interesting name. However before Rae could say her own name, class had already begun. Throughout the lesson she was listening but she had no idea what was really going on. She never learns unless it's lessons like how Lainey teaches them, but even then she wouldn't learn too much. She sat an doodled on what was supposed to be her name tag

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Rae Lilyan Skye
Slytherin
5th year.

She left it at that. If anyone anyone wanted to know more, they could just ask. She slid her name tag to Salander to show him her name since she hadn't gotten the chance to earlier. Thank goodness for her new name though, she couldn't stand another year with everyone calling her Alicia.

Lesson? Oh yeah.. Listening, listening, listening.


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