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Hermionespell 09-08-2008 09:32 PM

I'm glad that the ruling was in favor of JKR.

Ms_Nessa24 09-08-2008 11:32 PM

Its Good To Know we Have the Judicial System On Our Side! I Completely and 100% Agree tot his verdict!

French_December 09-09-2008 12:10 AM

Way to go, Jo! :band:

ladycplum 09-09-2008 12:23 AM

Kind of sux that the website is down too tho.

Lily Evans 09-09-2008 01:15 AM

There was no other way....

....great news....hahaha sorry that you waste your money!! ;)

Zoe 09-09-2008 01:41 AM

That's why you should never mess with Jo's work. She will win seeming it is all hers.

EmmaRiddle 09-09-2008 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FoxFire (Post 7177012)
WHOO! suck on it

..."Halted" is kind of a temporary-sounding word. Does it mean "never ever" in this instance?

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Anyone with information as to what it can mean?
They can appeal the decision.

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There are already authors out there who won't let people use their work for FF... so while I understand where Rowling is coming from, I'm curious about how other authors might use this standard to limit fair use of their work. Especially in sites like SS.
That should be a non-issue, because it's non-profit. Most good-natured writers realise that.

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Kind of sux that the website is down too tho.
That's down to the maintainers. The lawsuit didn't involve the website.

RedheadQueen 09-09-2008 02:41 AM

:woot: Congrats Jo and WB!! :woot: We knew it would/should go this way anywho!

inthelatemaydecember 09-09-2008 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle (Post 7178950)
That should be a non-issue, because it's non-profit. Most good-natured writers realise that.

I'm so grateful with JKR for being one of those authors who is able to be positive towards fanfiction. That she considers it evidence of how much people love her world, and how much her creativity inspires that of others, is just amazing. That's the way it should be, IMO. I know I have nothing but respect for the writers who's creations I fic for.

half_blood_prince 09-09-2008 05:30 AM

thats good, because i don't believe that they should have did it in the first place.

expectopatronum 99 09-09-2008 08:50 AM

Great result for JKR & WB - it's amazing that SVA (despite trying to keep himself at arms length through RDR) thought he could get away with it!

JKR & WB are incredibly tolerant of not for profit FF and other work based or influenced by HP, which is one of the many reasons the HP fandom exists. All we have to do is be considerate and respect JKR's & WB's rights or we could loose a lot of the freedoms we now enjoy.

Serena 09-09-2008 11:59 AM

Finally :D Well there couldn't be other possible outcome
Good for Jo

WobblingMolly 09-09-2008 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassirin (Post 7177305)
There were a lot of larger copyright issues at work and we'll have to see how things play out. There are already authors out there who won't let people use their work for FF... so while I understand where Rowling is coming from, I'm curious about how other authors might use this standard to limit fair use of their work. Especially in sites like SS.

Well, the ruling was pretty simple. It came down to whether or not the Lexicon was considered fair use, or more specifically, transformative. The judge ruled it was not transformative. Why? It wasn't because he rearranged Jo's work in an A-Z order. That problem was he used direct quotations from the books for his character, spells, and creature descriptions. He stole Jo's "descriptive" and "creative language" for a huge portion of his book. The guide would also hurt the sale of Jo's companion books, because they had nearly been copied "wholesale."

So this ruling does not set any new standards for reference works and companion guides for fiction or non-fiction. As long as an author uses their own words to describe their entries, that it should be transformative.

As for the websites, the lexicon website was never mentioned in the ruling. It had no effect on the decision, so implied license was never part of the judge's decision. This is good news for fansites. However, to be honest, fansites are deriviative works, so technically we could have been shut down years ago. However, WB already went through all of that and realized it was a dangerous route to take PR wise. I think they will pick their battles. As for other authors and copyright holders, they still can shut down sites if they want to. They've always had that right.

Ginevra_P 09-09-2008 02:13 PM

Jo did the right thing.


I hope they don't plan on doing any "revised edition" as they are saying, because no Potter fan would want that. I would rather have Jo's Encyclopedia.

FoxFire 09-09-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle (Post 7178950)
They can appeal the decision.

Ohhh. Watch them try, too <_< Since this whole thing began, they've copyrighted the text on the Lex, so you can't copy anything. This would be valid for the essays, but everything on the site? Not so much.

EmmaRiddle 09-09-2008 02:47 PM

^ Or they could produce a revised edition with less paraphrasing of the books.

bitsyandtank 09-09-2008 02:50 PM

I think it's a good decision.

Mari of the Ocean 09-10-2008 01:18 AM

it's good everything went smoothly

phoenix_tears 09-12-2008 08:33 AM

Nice ~!

Freak_4_Harry_Potter 09-21-2008 06:17 PM

Thats good! Id prefer one from Jo anyway.


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