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r+h4ever1 08-13-2007 07:44 PM

Christopher Hitchens is Hermione's Man
 
British-American author and columnist wrote his own, slightly critical review of the final installment of the Harry Potter series in Sunday's New York Times.

*Warning: These following articles contain language and mature opinions. Read at your own risk.*

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The question is the same if inverted in a Manichean form: how can Voldemort and his wicked forces have such power and yet be unable to destroy a mild-mannered and rather disorganized schoolboy? In a short story this discrepancy might be handled and also swiftly resolved in favor of one outcome or another, but over the course of seven full-length books the mystery, at least for this reader, loses its ability to compel, and in this culminating episode the enterprise actually becomes tedious. Is there really no Death Eater or dementor who is able to grasp the simple advantage of surprise?
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Yes, well, one sees why he is confused. The exchange takes place during an abysmally long period during which the threesome of Harry, Hermione and Ron are flung together, with weeks of time to spend camping invisibly and only a few inexplicable escapes from death to alleviate the narrative. The grand context of Hogwarts School is removed, at least until the closing scenes, and Rowling also keeps forgetting that things are either magical or they are not: Hermione’s family surely can’t be any safer from the Dark Lord by moving to Australia, and Hagrid’s corporeal bulk cannot make any difference to his ability, or otherwise, to mount a broomstick. A boring subtext, about the wisdom or otherwise of actually uttering Voldemort’s name, meanwhile robs the apotropaic device of its force.
He also shares some opinions with writer Stephen King, but while King is J.K. Rowling's man, Hitchens is Hermione's man through and through!

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Hitchens's is the less embarrassing of the two; though it's packed with useless verbiage ("For all this apparently staunch secularism, it is ontology that ultimately slackens the tension that ought to have kept these tales vivid and alive"), it does make some nice points about the lack of religion in the Potterverse as well as some reasonable complaints about Voldemort's "boastful explanations," a writer's tic that annoys a lot of readers. He also reveals that he can't quite conceive of the innate sexiness of Ginny Weasley; Chris Hitchens is a Hermione man!
This article from New York Magazine compares and contrasts the authors' takes on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows!

R&Hr 08-13-2007 07:53 PM

ok...well...um...ya...that was quite comfussing to read!
and i disagree...well...y dad tells me these same things (if they can use magic, then why not do this and that) but whats so great about the
HP series and our amazing JKR is that each person in the magical world has a different level of power, an there are also different kids of spells. some are dangerouse, and some are not! maybe a spell to make hagrid lighter dose not exist! i mean..and all this thing about "school boy" well, this si what the efin story is about! if harry potter would just die when he was one, then there would be no interesting story! and harry isnt just some school boy, he has these love power things...so...yea, all these adults who say mean things about harry...are just...no harry potter friends of mine...but i gotta admit, that ginny/mione thing was pretty cool...hehe.well, i have bin writing WAY to much, so...um...yea

Edit: first to post!WOOT!!

Accio Firebolt 08-13-2007 07:55 PM

hahaha sexiness of ginny weasly!!

second to post?? yay

r+h4ever1 08-13-2007 07:55 PM

I feel slightly obligated to disagree with Mr. Hitchens about the religious symbolism within the Harry Potter books...particularly in Deathly Hallows.

In fact, on Sunday (August 12, 2007), my family and I went to 1:00 PM Mass at our Church. Sunday's Gospel reading was Luke 12: 32-48, and a certain verse popped out at me as I read along...

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Originally Posted by Luke 12:34
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Making sure I was hallucinating, I went home after Mass and looked it up in my copy of Deathly Hallows. This is what I found...
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Originally Posted by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows p.325 American Edition:
Harry stooped down and saw, upon the frozen, lichen-spotted granite, the words KENDRA DUMBLEDORE and, a short way below her dates of birth and death, AND HER DAUGHTER ARIANA. There was also a quotation:

"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

*shrug* Mr. Hitchens (as well as some extreme Christian organizations) may ignore the moral center of Harry Potter, but I won't.

Shannon :hello:

SuperJess! 08-13-2007 07:57 PM

Ok.....Im confused!

bitsyandtank 08-13-2007 07:57 PM

There are some interesting points but I think they may be forgetting that DH is a book. Not real life. It doesn't have to be perfect. A little use of imagination might be required, but all in all, I thought it was great.

Lissy Longbottom 08-13-2007 08:09 PM

Ok...I really don't agree with much of that stuff :(

Katieluff 08-13-2007 08:20 PM

OK, I don't understand :blink: But of what I do get I don't agree with ... I think.

lightstar1154 08-13-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by r+h4ever1 (Post 5518460)
I feel slightly obligated to disagree with Mr. Hitchens about the religious symbolism within the Harry Potter books...particularly in Deathly Hallows.

In fact, on Sunday (August 12, 2007), my family and I went to 1:00 PM Mass at our Church. Sunday's Gospel reading was Luke 12: 32-48, and a certain verse popped out at me as I read along...



Making sure I was hallucinating, I went home after Mass and looked it up in my copy of Deathly Hallows. This is what I found...

*shrug* Mr. Hitchens (as well as some extreme Christian organizations) may ignore the moral center of Harry Potter, but I won't.

Shannon :hello:

You are exactly right, and I was so excited to hear that quote at mass this week! :) Yeah... there are always going to be people who will argue on and on about there being no symbolism or moral nature of the books... maybe they ought to reread ;)

futuremrsmalfoy 08-13-2007 08:41 PM

im confused...

Zoe 08-13-2007 08:51 PM

Okay. ... That's a bit confusing! :yes: Well, with what all I understood, I agree.

slythringurl04 08-13-2007 09:21 PM

haha..lol

Rose_Dawson 08-13-2007 09:39 PM

That was quite confusing. And I though I had a wide ranged vocabulary...

MizFit_of_Society 08-13-2007 10:01 PM

lol. I don't really get it.

griffin_girl 08-13-2007 10:03 PM

That was kinda weird yet insightful...

EmmaRiddle 08-13-2007 10:07 PM

A review is meant to be critical :lol: otherwise what's the point? A text is meant to make you think - books are there to be analysed - they have a meaning beyond just entertainment. It seems Mr. Hitchens has not heard the phrase "suspend your disbelief". We know HP is a bit illogical - what maniac, other than Voldemort, waits until May-June every year to attack a school kid? :lol: And as for me? I'm Luna's woman! :lol:

prettyinpink 08-13-2007 10:32 PM

Umm..ok!

r+h4ever1 08-13-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lightstar1154 (Post 5518649)
You are exactly right, and I was so excited to hear that quote at mass this week! :) Yeah... there are always going to be people who will argue on and on about there being no symbolism or moral nature of the books... maybe they ought to reread ;)

..or read it at all! ;) I didn't know you were Catholic too! Yay! Anyhoo...Obviously, and most importantly, the books are entertaining and have classic characters with whom you can fall in love. But, I think they are very enjoyable for the older readers because they give you something to think about. They have depth, something you can really sink your teeth into. They start conversations. They spark creativity in fans...fanfiction anyone? And they have great messages, and I think that is going to only help them become bestsellers even twenty years from now!

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Originally Posted by EmmaRiddle (Post 5518217)
A review is meant to be critical :lol: otherwise what's the point? A text is meant to make you think - books are there to be analysed - they have a meaning beyond just entertainment. It seems Mr. Hitchens has not heard the phrase "suspend your disbelief". We know HP is a bit illogical - what maniac, other than Voldemort, waits until May-June every year to attack a school kid? :lol: And as for me? I'm Luna's woman! :lol:

:lol: All very true, Emma. I think he is trying too hard to be critical, if that makes sense. Like you said, he needs to be able to read rather than critique every little thing. It is, as I said above, mostly written for entertainment...

Shannon :hello:

Mari of the Ocean 08-13-2007 11:30 PM

ok.... i'm really confused

HermioneLuna 08-13-2007 11:35 PM

All this critics are CONFUSING:hairpull: :hairpull: !!!!:harry3: Poor Harry :(

Double_Trouble 08-14-2007 12:37 AM

Thats neat...

laudienne 08-14-2007 12:42 AM

:lol: Well, I don't think many people share his opinions!! Quite a few of them seem to be assumptions about the wizarding world, which is why I think they're hard to agree with - he takes JKR's writing and he seems to question the world itself. But I learned long ago, along with everyone else, that it really isn't our place to question why magic works certain ways - JKR knows how and why, she wrote it, and that's the way it is. Let him write his own world and he can make it as he wishes, without all the imperfections he sees in Harry's. I, personally, don't mind it. ;)

Hermy99 08-14-2007 01:16 AM

OK That was a bit confusing:blink: but I do not 100% agree with him:no:.

~Maria

Fallon Chanel 08-14-2007 01:54 AM

wow lol

mione_girlgwp 08-14-2007 02:17 AM

=-O I don't agree with him at all. I'm at a loss because this man seems, to me, to be completly narrow minded.

And just as a side note...I go to church every weekend..but I didn't know where those quotes came from...he just needed something to pick on! *grumbles*


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