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Mad Eye Touz 07-20-2007 02:26 AM

The Epilogue
 
Was it all you hoped it would be? Too much? Not enough? I know we're all going to have opinions on this, so go ahead and share yours. :)


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Antwone Thomas 07-21-2007 04:22 AM

I enjoyed it, my friend, on the other hand, thought it was too perfect.

TeeNa 07-21-2007 04:36 AM

really candy-sweet, though I think if it was written so much time ago, it had to be something we least expected... my opinion on the double name... it's OK, people :lol: I loved it, and Draco's son's name too, I still didn't get who the spouse was, but it doesn't really matter
was the phrase "All was well" the definite ending Jo was talking about? I mean, it is clear to me that if there's no more scar pain, there's nothing to worry about, so there's no conflict
the point was to prove that Houses can cooperate, that love will defeat everything and that there is much more in some characters than we thought :) so this part was shockingly surprising, but I loved it

Ginpotter 07-21-2007 08:37 AM

Actually I was shocked when I read it...I didn't expect it but in Fanfictions...Albus Severus..COOOOOOOOOOOOOOl

TeeNa 07-21-2007 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doryannea (Post 5404207)
I'm not getting one thing, who the hell is Victorie?

most likely Bill and Fleur's daughter

Rebecca_Potter 07-21-2007 10:17 AM

Then again, it's still a book for children so for the opposite ending to what was in the book to happen, it's abit gruesome I guess. It's kinda cliche but Jo did manage to drive home a point about morality. =) I liked the book! I wished she had added in what happened to the Dursleys though! Who was the person who managed to do magic in late life? Um...does it mean Petunia was a witch too?

Libbi_Granger 07-21-2007 11:01 AM

I thought it was weird. It was like perfect alternate reality. There's no way everything would have been that great. I hated it. THough its really creepy, Almost all the shippings and kids names were almost all in a fanfic I wrote post-HBP. Except the Ted-Victoire thing and Hugo, I called him Richard.

Fallon Chanel 07-21-2007 11:46 AM

I loved it! I loved how it showed Draco was still alive. Being a HUGE Draco fan, that pleased me the most. I thought it was a sweet ending. But it kinda leaves me hanging...

DontCallMeNymphadora 07-21-2007 12:42 PM

I was super-happy that Ted Lupin got a mention, AND A GIRLFRIEND!!!!
I just hope he spends more time with Victoire than Remus did with Tonks *wails even more*

angelofdeath983 07-21-2007 01:34 PM

It was very sweet. I'm sorry but Draco's sons name is Priceless...Scorpious XD! I love it!
But everyone knew that Harry and Ginny's kids...well two of them would be called James and Lily...but Maybe its James Sirius Potter. But ehm Yeah Albus Severus...[Tear]
Soo sad.

Kazters 07-21-2007 02:21 PM

i didnt like it at all and i dont know why.

i felt it was distant to the story i know it was to show that they lived happy and life moved on but still

woul have prefered how things got back to normal after!

was the only thing i didnt like about the book

Padie 07-21-2007 02:27 PM

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most likely Bill and Fleur's daughter
Or George's and someone else's or Charlie's and someone else's or Percy's and someone else's XD Yeah.

Anyway, I loved the epilogue, I really did. Especially the whole scene when James was talking about the snogging thing :lol: And Albus talking to Harry about being put in Slytherin. That was just beautiful. I'm just sad there's no Sirius or Remus in the family XD

Parslemouth555 07-21-2007 03:36 PM

Well, I thought it was veeeeery cliche to have them leave at Kings Cross, but what are ya gonna do. Albus Severus was awesome, finally Harry shows Snape a kind of respect, and Scorpios. You can't not laugh, can you?

angeline_fire 07-21-2007 04:08 PM

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most likely Bill and Fleur's daughter
Yes, its their daughter!

But anyways the epilogue, I dint know would be there, but then I'd read that major spoiler *epilogue part* two days back..... *long story....:(*
but yes it was surprising to see it, and to think of it now I'd never have thought Harry'd have three kids......:lol:

But I loved it when Harry said to lil Albus Severus, about Snape being one of the bravest teachers at Hogwarts.Yes thats got to be the best line for me in the epilogue, or possibly in whole of the DH.

Nahima 07-21-2007 04:20 PM

After all the bathblood we've endured before, the epilogue was the perfect way to finish the story. A 'pink' ending to relax and say goodbye.
But I would have preferred a more detailed account!
I'd love to know more about the reorganization of the magic world after Voldemort and what happened to so many beloved characters.

emma_rlz 07-21-2007 04:35 PM

I think it was a nice ending to the final book: it tied up the few loose ends left at the end of "The Flaw In The Plan" and just tell us how things were to pan out.

I think that it was the perfect ending.

Meandering 07-21-2007 05:32 PM

I didn't like the epilogue at all, honestly. Especially for someone who felt like the H/G hadn't been vindicated, I would've loved a scene with Harry and Ginny where I could've been convinced. It still feels like whambam to me. I felt that the epilogue was too sugary sweet and too tied up. I did enjoy the Albus Severus part, I admit (I love Dumbledore and Snape, but really. Albus Severus. Poor kid) but I think a scene where they slowly rebuild their lives, or just doing without the epilogue at all would've been brilliant.

starlightangel 07-21-2007 06:59 PM

I'm completely undecided about this. I really am. It was so short, there is so much else that she could have said, and then what she did to those children...giving them the names of the dead. I find that creepy and unfair on the children, having an over hanging shadow of who they are named after. Sure, it was pure love but the entire epilogue was...too perfect. A disappointment.

padfoot_88 07-21-2007 07:48 PM

The Epilogue was, of course, how we all want to see the quad...happily married with children, finally living in a world free from the ever-present shadow of Voldemort above their heads. It kind of felt like it came from a fan fic though. It was interesting to see what names JKR gave to the children, and how Ron, Hermione, Harry and Ginny interacted with their children. I'm not so sure it really fit with the rest of the book though. Don't get me wrong, I loved it to pieces! However I do agree with it being a little too short and fast. I would have preferred a scene between Harry and Ginny, and Ron and Hermione just after the defeat of Voldemort. Just to show us how they got together after the battle and what their emotions/feelings were about the whole ordeal.
I guess there did have to be a limit...it had to end sometime!
I do so love the book though...

squibby 07-21-2007 07:57 PM

To be honest, Icouldn't bring myself to read the entire Epilogue yet, but stopped after the first 2 pages. It seems surreal and way to cheesy for my liking.

SweetCatastrophe 07-21-2007 08:53 PM

I won't lie, all the new characters and who's children they were, that was entirely too confusing. I did like Albus, though. He was so cute.

And what are the odds that James Potter II is just like James Potter the first, incarnate?

I was glad for an epilogue, though. She could've picked a better setting though. Like Harry and Ginny's wedding, or Ron and Hermione's. That would've been a laugh.

iron ice 07-21-2007 09:17 PM

*wails and sobs like anything*

i'll come afterwards when i have lived the emotions again

hermia123 07-21-2007 09:18 PM

This confused me at first and I had to go back and read it over because I was confused. When, I read it again though I thought it was wonderful. I really did because I thought it was a great way to end the book. I loved Hermione and Ron's kids names the most as I thought they were adorable. I did love their names though especially Albus Severus as that was too cute! This was a great way to end the books for me.

xamyx 07-21-2007 09:57 PM

It was "aite". I loved Albus and the fact that thy gave him Snape's name! He was obviously the most special out of the 3 children. I also loved when Ron said he was extremely famous, that made me laugh! But it was extremely short, J.K could have added more to it. The last sentence? "All was well"? How cheesy could that be? She could have just ended it with the fact that his scar had stopped hurting after 19 years! Also it was a little too perfect, I know JK wrote the epilouge ages ago and it was to always turn out like that but still, talk about a happily ever after in a fairy tale book. You'd think she'd make it more realistic at least...

futuremrsmalfoy 07-21-2007 10:29 PM

I love the fact that Harry's son has a double name i think it shows who Harry really loved in the end. Who he truly believed in. I am so happy that he had three kids it was more that amazing. I think ron and hermione was perfect and that the fact that they name their son hugo is insane. I too did not know who victorie was but fleur and bill's make's sence and then the fact that she was with ted makes even more sence becuase of the whole werewolf thing. I am soo glad that neville works at hogwarts. I think it was his true calling thing. i am also glad that they through a little draco in there. I agree that it was extremley short, i was hopping for a little more on some other characters, Luna, neville, pansy, the death eaters, george, percy, and all of them. But i cried as i read the last sentence.

dancerbookl 07-21-2007 10:38 PM

I liked it. It really wrpaed things up. But I always thought that the last word was gonna be scar

argentinaz_angel 07-21-2007 10:42 PM

I thought it was straight out a FanFic :P I thought the names Albus, James and Lily were ... overdone ... I mean EVERY FF u read that ends up in Ginny&Harry havin kids are named Lily and James ... it was sweet, however, i cant argue that XD it was the perfect ending for a teenage fantasizing girl :lol:

Aschere_Tonks 07-21-2007 11:03 PM

I knew Snape wasn't rotten! Wah :( Although it's weird how Harry's other kids have ordinary, short names but Albus has both Albus and Severus tagging along..
I think the epilogue looks really like it's been written in a tearing hurry.. I would have wanted to see a more complete picture - of George, and the other Weasleys at the very least.
Also, it's only Harry's and Ginny's kids (and Ted Lupin) who're named for someone.. everyone else's got unconnected names - it sounded awkward in there..

All in all, I loved the book but not the epilogue, nor that abrupt jump to 19 years later. Still, it leaves a lot open to the imagination now!

Taking Back Kirstie 07-21-2007 11:45 PM

I too, felt it was a little too much like fanfiction. Of the whole book with all the deaths and blood and foul language, the epilogue was the only part that felt to me like it was written for children.

I suppose i just wasn't expecting such a happy ending? I dunno. Ron and Hermione should have named their son Fred, IMO.

X-Girl 07-22-2007 01:56 AM

ODD.

ODD.

And ODD some more.

'Nuff said.

It was waaaaaay too played out. Not even FF gets that cheesy. Meeeh, not to my liking, at all.

SarahPotter 07-22-2007 03:33 AM

It was a bit too fairy-tale how all the teenage love-doves survived, but hey
Albus and Teddy rock.

marfamarfa 07-22-2007 05:05 AM

I didn't think the epilogue was necessary. In fact, I could have done without it. I still needed something to imagine and wonder about, and now that is gone. In this respect, I am disappointed with JKR. I didn't want, or expect a gushy happy ending, and I feel the epilogue was overkill.

Simple_Spells 07-22-2007 05:09 AM

Eh. Fun to read, but weird. Didn't like him being named Albus. Blech to that. And kept getting the kids messed up. Seemed too perfect, not believable. But I'm so glad there was an epilogue. Just wish it was different.

VynettaCristelli 07-22-2007 05:14 AM

i agree that it was sort of... cliche, but i did enjoy it nonetheless. i do wish that a bit more detail had been added about other characters, as well as the process of reconstructing magical society. and it would have been nice to hear about the dursleys, after harry's and dudley's 'moment' in the beginning of the book. i loved the bit about draco and his oddly-named son! it made me glad to see draco 'give a curt nod', as it was at least a hint of respect. ron's comments to his daughter were halarious! anyway, overall, i deeply enjoyed the book, and i am glad it ended so well. i knew it would.

Simple_Spells 07-22-2007 05:24 AM

Yeah, great point! I kept wanting the Dursleys to resurface, but once it gotton closer to the end I forgot about them until you just mentioned it. I mean, we don't even know if they survived!

I think it was cute... just kind of a tad overkill. But that's OK. I couldn't ask JKR for anything more than she's given us. Except for more ahmazing books to become obsessed with.

Magical_Mione 07-22-2007 05:46 AM

I had previously expressed my feelings for the Epilogue in another thread and since I am currently too lazy to type it again, I shall hence forth demostrate my copy and paste capablities...... :P

Which brings us to the Epilogue..... *stops to make an appointment to the dentist for all the cavities received from reading said Epilogue* I am already biased concerning epilogue's (detests them :whip: ), but, even if I wasn't I still would hate this one. I found it to be completely superfluous and quite annoying. I much prefer imagining where the character's lives end up rather than having it handed to me on a silver platter. Plus, it was much to "sweet" for my taste. I also felt a bit offended that JKR seemed to think that after 7 years or so of investing one's life in her books that we would not be able to figure out how the character's lives might end up. Alas, but again I am refering back to my intent dislike for Epilogues as I am sure that JKR must have felt the need to write the epilogue for her own closure as well as those of some of her fans.

demented_death_eater 07-22-2007 05:57 AM

The Epilogue was cute, but for me it reinforced the way a few chapters in PS/SS were written (Harry reiminiscing on learning he was a wizard). It would have been nice to have more details on the other characters/families - ie. jobs, children, etc.


CatDGame 07-22-2007 06:35 AM

I for one didn't like the epilogue. I feel like it didnt a bit more, I just felt empty with the ending. Although it was nice, I just felt like J.K. could of added something more to put the ending over the top

kimberly_and_harry 07-22-2007 06:39 AM

It was good but i still think harry and hermione should of ended up togather.They also should of told us want happen to luna.I liked draco noticing harry at the train station.But it was a good ending like if she wanted to go back and write she could.

LittleMissChriss 07-22-2007 07:02 AM

I really didn't like the epilogue. It was absolutely not what I expected - I'd imagined it'd to be more list-like and informative. This was just too neaseausly sweet and fanfiction-like. No, the epilogue is definitely my least favourite part in the whole series.

krazypenguin 07-22-2007 07:16 AM

I liked it, but one question:

who in their right mind would name their son Scorpius???

Voldetemps 07-22-2007 11:23 AM

It's a pity that the book has to end like this.
I hated it.

...but if it keeps us for an eight book written in a style like this...than I appreciate it.

Lady Fabulous 07-22-2007 11:40 AM

I liked the Epilogue (why 19 years though?) I think it was too short, there definitely should have been more about other characters. I liked the inclusion of Albus Severus, especially when Harry tells him about who his is named after.

I Really think JKR should have written more though, just a few sentences here and there for some closure. Like what happened to Umbridge and Lucius Malfoy? When Ron (or is it Harry?) says "look who it is" (referring to Draco) I would have liked one of them say something like "his father's up for parole next month and Umbridge the month after" - something as simple as that. I really wanted to know what happened to these evil characters that seem to squirm their way out of things.

So many questions and not enough answers...

Dainsie 07-22-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Fabulous (Post 5406264)
I liked the Epilogue (why 19 years though?)


I believe it was 19 years so that Harry was the same age as his father, 36.

I wish it was a bit longer and more detailed, like what they had done since. Jobs and stuff as well, and more of the characters.

Ginpotter 07-22-2007 12:25 PM

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I believe it was 19 years so that Harry was the same age as his father, 36.
Did James die when he was 36!!!

phoenix. 07-22-2007 01:44 PM

I loved the epilogue, but I reckon it was too cliche and perfect. I really wasn't expecting something like that from J.K. Although it did tie up things nicely, I reckon it should've been something...well, less cliche.
I did cry when I read the last sentence though. I can't believe that Harry Potter's finally over.

phoenix. 07-22-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginpotter (Post 5406293)
Did James die when he was 36!!!

I believe that James died when he was 21, as in DH it said he was born in 1960 and died in 1981.

Brittany Weasly 07-22-2007 03:28 PM

I was ...was.. I don't know I loved it. But I must admit. I was a little shocked it was like that.

Ginpotter 07-22-2007 03:43 PM

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I believe that James died when he was 21, as in DH it said he was born in 1960 and died in 1981.
So, Why Jo chose after 19 years in particular??

evlpez 07-22-2007 03:55 PM

I felt that the epilogue was perfect. It was JUST what JKR wanted and needed to do.

Firstly, the reason it felt so fan-fiction-y was because that was what FF writers have been speculating all along. Not because it was easy or sappy, but because those of us who shipped that way felt that was the probable outcome (Some of us don't write these things just to see what might come of it but weave our theories into the story). After all, Jo always said, if you understand the characters and understand the Great Stories, you KNOW how this is going to turn out.

Secondly, there can be no speculation about the future of these characters. Harry married Ginny and Ron married Hermione and they all lived happily ever after, the end. No room for future uprisings in those 19 years; of stray Death Eaters exacting their revenge. It's done, and it was GOOD, and she didn't HAVE to kill Harry, even though she easily could have and still made it work out.

Thirdly, Jo is happy with this book (including the epilogue). All through it, it felt comfortable reading it (like favorite slippers), and I never fretted the questions I had as I went along, I was confident that she'd make it all right by the end and she did. That she is satisfied with this is enough for me. I couldn't be happier with this book.

SnoggingLupin13 07-22-2007 04:50 PM

It was kind of sickening, like a cliche fanfic. I'll get over the fact that I hadn't wanted the two couples to live happily ever after, but really, all their kids are BFFs and kissing each and stuff? Plus we didn't find out what would have been more interesting, their jobs and their life directly after Voldemort. Also, "Albus Severus Potter"? Gotta feel sorry for that kid, considering his brother and sister got normal names. Couldn't it be like "Sirius Albus Potter" and "James Severus Potter"? Just sounds more normal...and where did "Rose" and "Hugo" come from?

Hermionespell 07-22-2007 04:57 PM

The epilogue was perfect. I know that it was too short to suit some people, but I feel that making it longer would allow less for the imagination.

Harry and Ginny marry and have three kids: James, Lily, and Albus Severus. I love that he named Albus Severus after two of the most amazing people he ever knew. I love how Albus is a little unsure of himself and how Harry tells him that he wouldn't care if he was in Slytherin or not. James was too cute!
Hermione and Ron get married and have two kids!
Victoire was more than likely Bill's and Fleur's daughter. Just look at the name, really. I'm glad that Ted Lupin made a show too!

It was good, and I'm pleased.

Blackened 07-22-2007 05:24 PM

A bit too different than the rest of the book, if you ask me. I had preferred a more bittersweet ending, all in all. But I didn't hate it or anything.

It definitely entailed the finality necessary for the 7th book, little to none speculation left. And I liked the fact that FINALLY Harry acknowledges Snape and his bravery.

'All was well' was an effective way of ending the book, too. I rather liked it, and yes, the word 'scar' was close to the end, hehe, like JK said xD

BrightestWitch 07-22-2007 05:32 PM

Hmm...It was defo too short in my mind. I think it was too picture perfect as well. Lol! I mean yes life can have its cheesy, Hallmark card moments but those are rare. So unless the Epilogue was a rare, cheesy, Hallmark card moment then I guess its cool. -shrugs-

I don't know I think it could have been better? Maybe it didn't have to go that far into the future. I mean I would have been pleased to just see how they were rebuilding their lives after the whole war thing was over. That I think would have been cool.

It was nice to see everyone settled though. That was nice. Finally we got to see Harry with the family that he has always longed for and always deserved. So I suppose that was cool. Although I'm not too sure about Albus Severus...O-o That was funny to me...sweet but funny. Lol! I would have been sure that Harry would have named one of his kids after Sirius.

However I did love the bit where Ron said that he Confunded the examiner in order to pass his driving test. Lmao! <33 Would defo not want to get in a motor vehicle with him!

HarryHermione 07-22-2007 05:41 PM

What about the Harry-Hermione thing that should have happened? Oh well. They'll still all remain friends. I do wonder who Draco married, what became of Luna, who else teaches at Hogwarts (what staff remain), and just some other details. But overall....GREAT!

HP_Babe 07-22-2007 05:49 PM

I've read that scene so many times in a million cliche fanfics, so I'm still glad that she added it because I was curious what happened to them all but still, a bit corney.

And I couldn't stop laughing at the name Hugo...ahaha.

But I did like it alright, kind of wish it was like more sad almost, not to happy and yay-everything- is -alright -now -lets- have- a- party.

roonilwazlib 07-22-2007 06:32 PM

It was wierd noticing all the names of the kids and that that had been mentioned in so many fanfics before. Kinda wierd, but I got over that quickly.

At the time I was reading it, I was liking it and psyched when I found out about Neville. I loved loved loved the part with Harry talking to Albus Severus about possibly being in Slytherin. Gotta say, it was cute.

Overall, I'm upset. Only 6 characters (that were living during all other books) were mentioned. So many were left out and I want to know so badly what happened to them. Is McGonagall still alive and headmistress? Who else do we know is teaching at Hogwarts? Luna? Weasley's? Dursley's? There are so many characters I want to know what happened in their lives that I still don't know. Okay, tell me, does anyone know if this is completely false or possible: JK will write a little book to tell how everyone else's lives ended up. Not a book with a plot or anything, but just saying what happened to each character.

Pandalicious 07-22-2007 10:24 PM

Overall? The Epilogue was pretty good. It was JK's way of saying, "This is the last book." Since she was giving fans a loose outline of what happened afterwards.

Of course there were the itty bitty things that bothered me - too short in my opinion [that also might be because I didn't want it to end :xd: =/] but also I would have liked more information on the characters and their families and so on but then again I think JK left that part open so fans could keep discussions going and although everything important was answered some of that stuff is still open - like the trio's jobs and such.

I really did love how Harry named one of his son's after Snape. It was just the best bit of the whole Epilogue in my opinion. It just showed how much respect Harry had held for his old-Potions professor in the end.

Overall it was a great way to end the book :yes:

Tom Marvolo Riddle 07-22-2007 10:34 PM

I though it was alright, I really thought Harry would get the D.A.D.A. job at Hogworts and mabey even become Headmaster someday.

Cursed Puppet Head 07-22-2007 10:44 PM

I hate to insult Jo and the fact that this epilogue was finished years and years ago, but I wasn't crazy about it, personally. It was kind of cheesy. The bit about Albus Severus was sweet (although I just liked that Harry came to terms with Snape, d'awwww...), but otherwise it was just like, "... whoo, never saw that coming D:"

And... the last line. Redundant! They all got married and had babies, of course all was well! It just seemed unnecessary.

Plus, the fact that everybody named their kids after previously existing characters got to be a bit overbearing and confusing, did anyone else feel that?

OdiSSe 07-22-2007 10:50 PM

I wouldn't say it was fully an epiloque since we could only figure out that Ron-Hermione and Ginny-Harry got married, and they got children. What about the others?
I personally would have preferred an epilogue, which is not 19 years later but a couple of years maybe, picking up from a wedding either of Rhr or HG, and informing about the rest one by one.

druidflower 07-22-2007 11:04 PM

I would have prefered the epilogue done in the way Dickens finished off A Christmas Carol A simple narrative explaining where everyone went with their lives. This read a bit like Fanfiction to me. But you know what? It's not the way I would have ended it, but after all the insanity Harry and co. have been though, ridiculous Fanfictionesque sweetness in their future almost makes for an appropriate counter-balance.

Dan crazy 07-22-2007 11:48 PM

OMG! I simply adored the epilogue! I was thrilled to see Ron and Hermione got married and Harry and Ginny and they all had kids! I personally would have liked to see one of Harry's sons named Sirius. I love how there's James and Lily though. Sadly, I think Hugo is a funny name. Along with Draco's son's name, Scorpius or however it's spelled. I was curious to know who Victoire is though. :hmm: I agree with Hermionespell, it could be Fleur and Bill's daughter since she is cousins with James, who is a Potter, who is related to the Weasleys, making Bill and Fleur's child, his cousin.

asy 07-23-2007 01:04 AM

I'd be fairly certain Victoire is Bill and Fleur's daughter, the French name sorta gives that away.

I think it's 19 years because that's when Albus Severus is getting on the train to Hogwarts, along with Rose. I guess it's a nice tie up.

I think the Ep was far too short. Mind you I wouldn't have complained if it was another 700 pages... :p

I really wanted to know what happened to McGonagall, the other teachers who stayed, The Malfoys, What happened to the Dementors? Did they go back to Azkaban? How's Az guarded now (if not). Which of the Death Eaters lived, and what happened to them. What are the rest of the Weasleys doing now? How did George manage after losing half of himself (Fred), there was NO mention of George finding out about Fred's death in the book!!!

Oh, and, most of all, what do the four do for a living?! The book alludes to Hermione becoming a healer, but what about the others?

Well written, but left too many loose ends for my liking. Very frustrating.

asy :D

Godric Potter 07-23-2007 01:15 AM

I disliked the Epilogue and I feel that Rowling lied about it. She said we would find out everything about all the characters who lived. Instead we got a little cheesy bit on Harry's kids.

Samia 07-23-2007 01:48 AM

I hated the Epilouge..It was wayy cheessy!! It was really likeFanFic..!!I was expecting more..!!

stmungo 07-23-2007 02:13 AM

Far too much like bad fanfiction.

lightstar1154 07-23-2007 02:25 AM

Too sweet... too happy. I personally think the epilogue shouldn't have been included. I thought it was just weird reading all the names of the characters that had died as kids of the main characters. It's too big of a jump for me, as much as it said "19 years later..." to go from Ron/Hermione sharing a kiss over house elf liberation to having two kids.

All said, I did enjoy reading it, and a thought it was funny, and important, especially Harry's line about Snape. Still... it left a lot to be desired.

carola9146 07-23-2007 02:42 AM

I really didn't think it was need. I think the book would have been prefect if it ended with the last chapter and Harry's line, "I've had enough trouble for a lifetime".

The funny thing is I saw the scan of the Epilouge the week before the book came out and I thought this can't be the real one because Harry's kids names are just too hokey.

I would have enjoyed it better if we found out what happened to more of the characters - maybe if it was at Harry's birthday party or something.

ronnetta 07-23-2007 03:31 AM

I thought the epilogue was a bit cheesy, yeah I know it's a kids book and people like happy endings and all that but I really didn't need to know what happens with everyone 19 years later.

And I agree that it should have just stopped at when Harry said "I've had enough trouble for a lifetime"

Mistress Vondella 07-23-2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazters (Post 5404522)
i didnt like it at all and i dont know why.

i felt it was distant to the story i know it was to show that they lived happy and life moved on but still

woul have prefered how things got back to normal after!

was the only thing i didnt like about the book


Agree. Fully. The Epilogue as is is nice enough, and kind of interesting, but summing up how things returned to normal would have seemed better to me. Maybe 2 parts of the Epilogue, one part summerizing the return to normalcy, and the other jumping ahead.

I don't know. Seemed too....clean and light for how dark the books have gotten. But....maybe that was just Jo trying to tie it up by kind of going back to the "Happy Time" but....it just wasn't what I had expected at all.

Seemed to just want to give an ending a happy note, but left us with a lot of questions and curiosity about everyone else.

What happened with the Dursleys? Specifically Dudley, who had come around to Harry at the end....er...beginning.

XxHPaddict17xX 07-23-2007 06:10 AM

I really like the epilogue and how Harry and Ginny honored certain people by naming their children after them, but I do wished that there was more mentioned about the other characters...

lyra_eve 07-23-2007 06:42 AM

I think it was wonderful. The epilogue was meant for us and for jk. she needed some closure as well as we did, and this is how she chose to do it. this is what she wanted to show us. I can't believe that some of you are criticizing her....

*caalm, calm*

sorry, but I love the books. all of them. they are perfect.

FadeToBlack__ 07-23-2007 07:35 AM

Honestly, I didn't like the epilogue at all. It was too "picture perfect". There was no surprise in it, at all. The way that Harry named his kids after those certain people was a little ironic really. Also the way that they were all married off, sort of annoyed me. It's sort of hard to explain in words.

Lady Fabulous 07-23-2007 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dainsie (Post 5406271)
I believe it was 19 years so that Harry was the same age as his father, 36.

Yes Harry would be 36 now, but when was James 36? He was 21 when he died, and would have been 31 when Harry started in his first year at Hogwarts. So James would have been 36 when Harry finished his last year at Hogwarts (6th year as he did not do the final 7th year) Could that be the connection???

Any other ideas why 19 years later???

c00kie 07-23-2007 10:06 AM

'make sure you bet him in every test, Rosie. Thank God you inherited your mother's brain.' That was real cute. ;)

i think having an epilogue was better than nothing. Even though it was a little too perfect.

daniel_radcliffe_fan_4eva 07-23-2007 11:24 AM

I know the epilogue seemed over perfect and cheesy but ater all of the tragedies that have occured not only in DH but throughout the entire series, i think that harry, and the rest of the wizarding world for that matter, deserve peace and harmony and as cheesy as it may be- a happy ending.

I have to admit that i couldn't be happier with the outcome. i know there were losses but the series ends on such a euphoric note. It was rounded out perfectly and i loved the idea that after all they had been through, Harry and his friends were finally able to be happy and enjoy the world to which they belonged.

i do wish however, that there could have been some mention to the order of the reast of the wizarding world and how it repaired itself after voldemorts demise. Also, i'm curious to who now governs hogwarts, what happened to the rest of the characters, such as the weasleys and hagrid, who is the new minister for magic and what harry, ron, hermione and ginny do as a perfession. i would also like to find out what happened to the dealth eaters although i'm sure they are safely back in azkaban. ;)

Kazters 07-23-2007 11:28 AM

i really didnt like it at all! i was disapointed wioth it because the rest of the book was so fab!

sweetbaby 07-23-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebecca_Potter (Post 5404255)
Then again, it's still a book for children so for the opposite ending to what was in the book to happen, it's abit gruesome I guess. It's kinda cliche but Jo did manage to drive home a point about morality. =) I liked the book! I wished she had added in what happened to the Dursleys though! Who was the person who managed to do magic in late life? Um...does it mean Petunia was a witch too?

Yeah i agree..what did happen to the dursleys..Hmm... :hmm:

It was an ending that surely ended the series

But it just didnt seem enough..A bit Mediocre..but i guess thats how it was suppose to be...Average, to show how everything went back to normal

itsjustjesse 07-23-2007 06:59 PM

I personaly feel that in general Epilogues are a sign for the end, this one had a look of not closure but openness to me and made you see that it had worked and that it was to no avail and Voldemort was still dead.

annettegreen505 07-23-2007 09:45 PM

I just have one question..... Who is the new Hogwarts Headmaster?:r/hr:

Taking Back Kirstie 07-23-2007 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by annettegreen505 (Post 5411446)
I just have one question..... Who is the new Hogwarts Headmaster?:r/hr:

I believe McGonagall would have been Headmistress immediately after Voldemort was defeated... as for nineteen years later? who knows.

griffin_girl 07-23-2007 10:02 PM

Well, yeah it was not enough! I wanted to know how everybody was, y'know? Did all the weasley's marry? who was Draco's wife? what about Luna? who is the headmaster/mistress at Hogwarts?

but I really liked the Epilogue! I think little Lily is cute! and Ron telling the kiddies that they would get disinherited if they weren't in gryff!!!:lmao: "Thank God you got your mother's brains!" LoL!!!!

cocaworm 07-23-2007 10:54 PM

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I too, felt it was a little too much like fanfiction. Of the whole book with all the deaths and blood and foul language, the epilogue was the only part that felt to me like it was written for children.

I suppose i just wasn't expecting such a happy ending? I dunno. Ron and Hermione should have named their son Fred, IMO.
I SO AGREE!!! Way to childish for such a full to the rim adult book.

Plus, someone should have named one of their kids Fred. It's just not right for Harry to name the kids after his parents and people he loved for A fallen Weasley to not have been in their. UGH!

shelleyslater 07-23-2007 11:39 PM

It was horrible.

Maybe it's my own fault for speculating too much, for building it up, for coming to my own conclusions.........but it was weak, it was disappointing and it was too sugary.

I'm going to be a diva now but I feel really let down, nothing has ended for me, I honestly believe that JK couldn't let Harry go, so she held on and........well..........I'm not happy..........

Nightingale 07-23-2007 11:47 PM

I thought it was alright but it just left me longing for more! I truly wanted to know what happened to every single character.... But I'm not sure JKR would have enjoyed that.

mountaindewsgreen 07-23-2007 11:54 PM

I still can't believe Harry and Ginny named one of their kids Albus Severus...that part was a little too cliche for me. If you think about it, this kid is living in the 21 century with a name like Albus.

Not only that, that's what JK did through out the whole book. Everyone was named after a relative or close friend...I guess she did that to make it easier to come up with names.


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I know the epilogue seemed over perfect and cheesy but ater all of the tragedies that have occured not only in DH but throughout the entire series, i think that harry, and the rest of the wizarding world for that matter, deserve peace and harmony and as cheesy as it may be- a happy ending.
True, very true...but not everyone had a happy ending. Sirius spent 12 years of his life in Azkaban and he spent the last two years of his life in hiding. Remus and Tonks died and left a very young son behind. So not everyone had a perfectly happy ending. Fred's life was cut short and he didn't marry or anything...

EmmaRiddle 07-23-2007 11:55 PM

Personally I think the epilogue spoilt what was a good ending. It seemed like it hadn't been polished in the 17 years since Jo had first written it. What it told us was nothing we couldn't have assumed - and there were glaring omissions, such as Luna and the careers of the kids. This may have been purposefully done, to let fans decide, but then that destroys the point of having an epilogue in the first place. The worst thing about it though has to be the over-use of dedicatory names. I really loved Deathly Hallows, but I personally could've done without this chapter.

Ginpotter 07-24-2007 11:36 AM

In which year was this epilogue?? I mean when Harry has 36 so it will be in 2016..

Princesspotter1234 07-24-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SweetCatastrophe (Post 5405361)
. I did like Albus, though. He was so cute.

And what are the odds that James Potter II is just like James Potter the first, incarnate?

Lol.Absolutely!!

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Originally Posted by futuremrsmalfoy (Post 5405444)
I am soo glad that neville works at hogwarts. I think it was his true calling thing. i am also glad that they through a little draco in there. I agree that it was extremley short, i was hopping for a little more on some other characters, Luna, neville, pansy, the death eaters, george, percy, and all of them. But i cried as i read the last sentence.

Yeah,I too was hoping for more on George,(specially) n the rest of them.What happened to george??

Dont be so sad.It isn't over.It'll never be over.So long as we choose not to end it!
I too think that Victorie is Bill n fleur's son!I love it that Hary's finally happy.Hey!He deserves it!
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Originally Posted by Ginpotter
In which year was this epilogue?? I mean when Harry has 36 so it will be in 2016..

Yeah,Since Harry was born in 1980,it would be 2016.That's 9 years ahead of our time!!

EmmaRiddle 07-24-2007 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ginpotter (Post 5414595)
In which year was this epilogue?? I mean when Harry has 36 so it will be in 2016..

Well, Harry would have been 18 in the summer after the war, so that would make him 37 in the epilogue (as it's set in September 2017).

gailann93 07-24-2007 12:47 PM

I loved everything that happened BUT the epilogue...i don't know why, but i really think that the epilogue was really extracted from a fan fiction i've read somewhere in the internet...it was too perfect...short and fast...i was imagining her giving the endings of all the characters....especially Luna....although Teddy and Albus were cute...hehe...i was crying to death at chapter 36...and when i read the epilogue...i was rather disappointed that i was excited about it before...really... The last book is my fave though...even if the ending was... i dont wanna say it... nuff said...hehe... ;)

nathanieljb 07-24-2007 12:53 PM

The epilogue was too shorrt in my honest opionon and was probably the most dissapointing chapter of the entire book.

Its great how JK showed that finally after so many hard times and so many losses that Harry finally something good was to come out and finally he was to experience what it was like to have a family. It explained Ron and Hermione very well producing those silly comments we often hear from Ron with Hermione correcting him.

To me this should have been spread over a couple of chapters (20 year span)maybe explaining about the Rebuilding of Hogwats and the Ministry of Magic going through each of the key people in book and closing with Albus going on the train. The last paragraph in the book is exactly how the book should have ended and I commend JK Rowling for that.

I however still would love to know what happened with

Harry, Hermione, Ron and Ginny... Did Harry finally become a Aura like he always wanted? What did Hermione, Ron and Ginny end up becomming occupation wise?

The Dursley's, did harry make contact with them ever again? Petunia/Dudley seem to finally understand that Harry was not a freak.

What happened with George, the life long ambition of the twins was to open a Joke Shop.... Did George / Lee continue this business?

Kingsley Shacklebolt while he was announced Temporary Minister for Magic... is he now the Minister and if not, who is?

Bill and Fluer Weasley did they have kids, if so is that Victorie that Ted is dating?

Did Ted take on the traights that Lupin had or maybe did he have a strong taste for raw meat?

Luna Lovegood.... what happened to her, I am totally perplexed as to why she was not mentioned at all?

Professor Mogonagal, did she end up assuming the Headmaster of Hogwarts again?

Hagrid, did he and the giantess end up getting together... we only hear that he is having tea with albus a week after the first day back.

So many characters either got the tinyest or not mentioned at all... I hope that JK has plans for another book that will explain the wizarding world. I don't wish to see another Harry Potter and the.... as I think the adventures of Harry Potter has been explained.

cocaworm 07-24-2007 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanieljb (Post 5414706)
So many characters either got the tinyest or not mentioned at all... I hope that JK has plans for another book that will explain the wizarding world. I don't wish to see another Harry Potter and the.... as I think the adventures of Harry Potter has been explained.

Yeah Harry Potter and the Happily Ever After... ROTFL. Please NO! But I do feel the general public hasn't liked it. They want nothing or more. So I'm sure she'll have to write something else. She left it too open, to not write more.

Pookah 07-24-2007 04:46 PM

Totally agree with nathanieljb....

Whatever happened to my beloved Luna!?

Sweet.Nightmare 07-25-2007 02:35 AM

I'm kind of caught between loving it and not loving it. I adored Hermione and Ron's two children and Harry and Ginny's seemed nice but the whole being-named-after-the-dead think kind of creeped me out. It was a very kind thing to do, don't get me wrong, but I feel bad for Albus, James, and Lily. Buuut I laughed when James starting going crazy over Teddy and Victoire (I think she's Fleur and Bill's daughter, but I'm not sure). I expected it to be longer. It was nice but too perfect- I'm in the middle.

Golden Monkey 07-25-2007 03:04 AM

I loved the epliogue; it was a nice way to end the series...and I can imagine all the fics that will come pouring out soon over it. And namiing Albus after Snape and DD was wonderful I teared up at that name. It sounds weird though Albus Severus Potter? But mystical in a strange way too.

It also showed that the world had changed in the last 19 years, we caught a small whiff of it, and I can imagine a small friendship from Harry and Draco, after all Harry saved Dracos life plenty of times.

amy_b 07-25-2007 04:25 AM

I am sorry but I didn't like it very much I found it to be the must disappointing . I mean I am glad that Harry & Ginny - Ron & Hermione got together and had children. Yet what about everyone else? What happen to Luna, the rest of the Weasley’s, the Dudley’s, and so on. Where is Harry and Ron working?

There was so many questions that was not answered. So instead of making it seem all tied up it just left the gap bigger.

Simple Muggle 07-25-2007 05:03 AM

All was well.
I liked it. For me it has had explain just how peaceful the Wizarding World is or has been.

I love when Ron said that he's extrememly famous.. It made me laugh.

Albus Severus. I know. It's great of Haryy to name his son after Snape.

Epilogue. It was too short for me even though I loved th ending. I wished JK could've added more, updated us more to what has happened to the erst of the characters. but still.. Im contented.

Lady Fabulous 07-25-2007 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Taking Back Kirstie (Post 5405506)
Ron and Hermione should have named their son Fred

I think (although it's not mentioned along with 100's of others things) that George would have named his son after Fred.


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