What?

IT'S A BOOK! And Harry's not perfect. *gah!*

Shannon

Yes, because the good guys triumph over the enemy using kindness and fluffy bunnies. What was he supposed to do? Ask for a hug?

Just as so many so called Civil Rights Defendants, she only sees one side of the story.

It's not like Harry's never used the Cruciatus curse before. He did it once in Order of the Phoenix too. If this person was such a big Harry Potter fan before she read that part, how come she didn't feel that way before?

yea...and my dad thinks that Voldy is hittler and all the mudbloods are jews...

Yep. That's exactly it. He was to throw feathers and fluff at the Death Eaters, and the Order of the Phoenix was originally supposed to run around hugging and kissing all the baddies. But that just went wrong...

Thats insane....the whole thing is.

Obviously, he would've been better just asking politely if the Death Eaters and Voldemort wouldn't mind leaving them alone.

What?
that is...
ugh my dad says the same stuff but my answers always the same...
it's just a book !!
oh jeese

They'll just have to get over it then. It's a little late to change the books.

I kind of agree, actually. Through the whole series, Harry never used an Unforgiveable Curse, yet he managed anyway. He even defeated and killed Voldemort without using an Unforgiveable Curse. So why then? You'd think, after all these years, that his conscience would be strong enough to repulse the idea?

By using the cruciatus curse, Harry is doing exactly what he is fighting against.

And although he did use it in OotP, it didn't work, because he didn't mean it, he didn't want it. So really, that one doesn't count.

Of course, I'm not completely outraged about this... I know it's just a book, but then again, is it really, to everyone of us, who spend hours on SS, only just a book?

Edit: I changed my mind, it's not just a book, it's a worldwide phenomenon. Now Chicken Soup for the Soul, or Computers for Dummies, those are just books. People, you visit SS everyday, how could you call it just a book? Something tells me fans wouldn't say Harry Potter were just a book, if this were a debate on whether Ginny really likes Harry.

Its just a book love! i think she may need to get out more!

I think this is totally silly! As loads have said, a book. That's all it is.

Harry's not perfect! Come on! Some people take this thing way too seriously.

Well, this is interesting. I wonder how many of the Harry Potter characters are considered war criminals? Remember, a war criminal can be on any side of a war. US Soldiers who commit crimes in countries where they are serving (attacking a civilian, etc) are war criminals.

Lets go by the definition of war crimes ( War crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and see how many other characters fit the list.

I like Harry, and I think nobody is perfect, and there are good men in Iraq and all around the world who are soldiers who commit war crimes. I think we need to sit back and see what the bigger picture is in the statement that this lady made. What does this mean for our world?

what a weirdo...that specific action Harry took just shows us how people sometimes have to do certain wrong stuff for the greater good...

I hate it when people want awesome characters like Harry appear as some sort of superman....unbeatable and always right....

I see her point as well. Just because one is angry doesn't mean one can use explicit torture as a weapon in war or otherwise. No, Harry isn't perfect, but the laws that govern our society demand that people who use torture are held accountable. Torture using the Cruciatus isn't self defense. It's not even 'reasonable force'.

Given what he was fighting for, it should never have been an option for him.

And yes it's just a book, and yet we're STILL here discussing it. haha!! May as well say, "It's just a book; why bother wasting time on a HP site discussing it?"

Exactly, what was Harry supposed to do throw his wand at them?

I thought harry was really out of character when he did that. He was sinking to the death eaters' level. he should have just stunned him. torture is wrong.

The brilliance behind Harry's character is that he is flawed.

I see the point, but I disagree. A war is a war. And in war, both sides have to fight back. No one is going to sit back and let the other side take over.

When people torture, even in war, they go to trial and if found to be guilty of the act, they go to prison for it.

Harry IS flawed, yes. I don't expect him to be perfect. But look at the very nature of the Cruciatus. He had to mean it, to enjoy causing such pain in another being. He could've stunned Carrow. He could've bound him and cast some itch curse on him, but Harry chose an unforgivable; the worst and most torturous curse there is.

Besides this, some of us are failing to realize that this article isn't even as much about Harry as it is about our society. Most of us live in countries who have troops at war, and we're sitting here at home saying it's all right to torture someone even if it's unneccessary, since none of us are perfect and we're fighting the bad guy anyway. THAT is messed up.

AHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA.

Harry's a war criminal. That wins. xD

If Harry should is a war criminal for using an Unforgiveable, then so is McGonagall. She used Imperio right after Harry used Cruciatus.

And as for the "morality" of it, JKR herself said that Harry isn't perfect and you shouldn't expect him to be so.