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Default The Hunger Games (Series) by Suzanne Collins (Sa13+)

This thread, originally created by Mad Eye Touz, was focused on the first book in the trilogy, The Hunger Games.



As The Hunger Games is a hugely popular franchise, we couldn't not have a discussion thread for it!

Have you read the trilogy? Which was your favourite - The Hunger Games, Catching Fire, or Mockingjay? Who were your favourite characters and ships? What moments really HIT you?

Discuss all of that and more below! But, first... *stamps a SPOILER warning on this thread*

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So I read this book in 6 hours last month, completely inhaled the trilogy in a week and now I'm BEREFT!

It's SO good! I want to make everyone I know read it, but I want to read it forever, you know what I mean? lol okay, will stop here cos I don't want to post any spoilers.

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Do not read my spoiler unless you've already read all THREE books. Seriously. I will spoil you.

SPOILER!!: Ern's mini rant
I have this beef with love triangles in books. Kelvin might eat my face or something for making this about interpersonal relationships, but this trending toward triangles is something I've been noticing for years now, and it has finally coalesced into this rant. Regardless of the focus of the story and the outcome of the triangle, if an author spends any amount of time building up the tension between the three characters, then you as the reader have an emotional investment in the resolution of that tension.

So I cannot figure out WHY authors write themselves into a corner with these love triangles, and then cop out right when it matters. It is NOT a satisfying resolution if someone leaves or dies or is not somehow forced to make a decision. If there is no DECIDING, then what was the point of all that tension? I'm not talking about the perceived-triangle-by-the-fanbase, like Harry/Hermione shippers or anyone who thought Bella would ever choose anyone but Edward (yeah, I went there), but a book where you become emotionally invested in the relationships and there is a real question about how it will end.

I have very few complaints about this series (even the ending, although it was sad-making), but I felt a little let down by Gale just LEAVING. You may say that I missed the point, and I will freely acknowledge that I'm caught up in the greater pattern and could be blind to why this was a necessary resolution. So by all means... am I alone in feeling like for all the build up, the resolution of this love triangle left something to be desired?

That being said... I love love LOVE these books, and I love your faces for being adorable fangirls and fanboys about it. Hehe.
It's not so much the relationships themselves that bother me. What bothers me is when people make the ENTIRE series out to be a love story when that's not what it's about AT ALL. And if you ARE going to make it a love story, then why not make it about Katniss's love for Prim? I mean, that's the whole reason she's in the games anyway.

SPOILER!!: spoilery stuff
But I do agree with you, Ern. If you're going to take the time to SET IT UP, then at least see it through. When I found out Gale left, I was just kind of sitting there like, "....oh. okay?" It felt like a really feeble attempt to tie up that loose end, which I didn't appreciate. It's like authors don't realize (which, how that happens is beyond me) JUST HOW MUCH people become attached to fictional characters. It's disrespectful to the reader, IMO.

But anyway, I have no problem with the romance in this series. Sometimes I got a little annoyed with Katniss, but when you don't know, YOU DON'T KNOW. I can get on that train.


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Response to Ern's post. So yeah. Same thing. No reading if you're not done with everything

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I agree, I didn't like how Gale just LEFT, and this is coming from someone who was never ever EVER a Gale fan. Even though I always had a feeling she was going to choose Peeta in the end, and I never focused much on the love triangle bit of the book (I was THAT sure it was going to be Peeta) I wished Gale would have liked, I dunno, at least sent a Christmas card or something. I also didn't like all the blame he got for Prim's death. Yes, he made the bomb that killed her and that was awful. BUT it's not like he specifically pointed out the spot where Prim was standing and ordered them to fire there. It was an accident. So in a way I was kind of dissatisfied that she was like "I hate Gale now because he killed my sister". NO HE DID NOT STOPPPP

So it's not that I was disappointed with the ending of the love triangle--more like the ending of Katniss/Gale's FRIENDSHIP. I have such a hard time believing that after being such close friends for so many years, she just completely cut him out of her life and Gale never bothered to visit or write or anything. Then again, maybe I'd feel differently if I could relate to losing a sister I dunno.
SPOILER!!: mo stuff
I agree with you too, but like Ern, I read into it in that Katniss didn't have a CHOICE about what to do about Gale because he was just gone without a word. I mean I suppose I can see his logic. He realized that Peeta was what Katniss needed and decided to remove himself from the situation, but I can't help that it was so ABRUPT. But people do that in life, so I can see how it's believable.
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Response to Ern, Lissy and Kelvin:

SPOILER!!: tick tock

On The Love Triangle: THANK YOU, ERN! You've put the finger on the VERY thing that was bugging me about the book series, what is it with authors and building up love triangles? I understand that it's what gets teenagers invested, especially if they introduce one romance long before the other and get people to buy into it. But Mockingjay just really annoyed me in that so much of it became an internal struggle between Peeta or Gale.

I honestly shipped Peeta/Katniss, but when Collins brought in the whole "She'll choose whoever she can't survive without." theme, WHY DIDN'T SHE FOLLOW THROUGH? If you're going to make that a deciding factor, then at least have Katniss think about it more than just her initial butthurt feelings.

On Gale's removal from the storyline so that Peeta and Katniss can have a neat little ribbon-wrapped ending:
LAME. The whole thing reeked of JK Rowling's post-DH interviews where she ended up having to reveal a bookload of information. It was a weak ending, a cop-out, even for Collins to just send him off to a glamorous job in District whatever it was.

That friendship was solid, and for all his talk of understanding her, as a reader I always got the impression that Gale wasn't a character who would just back off. He didn't MEAN to kill Prim, heck, we don't even know if he DID!

Honestly, the feeling I'm left with at the end of it all is: If she didn't specifically choose Peeta over Gale, she shouldn't have chosen either. It was a cheap ending.
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LOL I'm no good at things like this. Just responding. But...anyway, spoilertagtime...also big block of text because it is 6:30 AM and the left side of my brain = off.

SPOILER!!: Prep Team
At first I really didn't like them because they were from The Capitol and they were so judgmental of Katniss. However, I quickly grew to just be neutral toward them. For most of The Hunger Games, in fact, I was pretty neutral toward them. However, during Catching Fire, I REALLY started to like them. Like a lot. It was obvious how much they really cared for Katniss. And I think it could have easily come off as them caring about her because Capitol citizens get attached to tributes in the same way we get attached to movie/tv/book characters, but you could tell they really cared about her as a person, not just their tribute. I mean, they couldn't even hold it together pretty much throughout all of Catching Fire because they couldn't stand the fact that Katniss wouldn't be coming back to them. It was also then that I realized that Katniss and Venia have a lot in common. I don't remember exactly why (Ashlie could tell you the context of me drawing the comparison), but she was the only one who could hold it together out of the three. And even then, you could tell she was only just barely handling it. UGH I really wish I could remember the context of me realizing that. Anyway, in Mockingjay, I definitely saw the human side to them. They were locked up like animals simply because they stole bread. I mean, you can't blame them for being born into the life they were, you know? It wasn't their fault, so it really bothered me that they were treated like dirt by everyone else. Sure, it's natural to be angry at the Capitol for allowing their citizens in such frivolity, but they don't know any better. I think Ashlie said they were like pets. They needed to be trained in order to adapt to District 13 life, and I definitely agree. Plus, oh man they loved Katniss to death unconditionally, and that was really heartwarming.

As for Cinna, ALL. MY. CREYS. In a time when Katniss needed some sort of parental figure there most, Cinna was there for her. I have so many feelings about their relationship. I just can't put it into words. If the prep team loved Katniss though, he more-than-loved her. Like I said, no words.
SPOILER!!: Prep Team Thoughts
AWWWWWW Kelvin I SO agree with everything you just said. Ugh. The Prep Team should be renamed the Pet Team because they're all just so... so helpless. They can't be blamed for anything because I really feel like they're so.... so ignorant, even by the end of the series. Kelvin said it all really.

And Cinna. It hurts when he gets mentioned in the later books already after his death. UGH. There should be MORE OF HIM. Always!


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Do not read my spoiler unless you've already read all THREE books. Seriously. I will spoil you.

SPOILER!!: Ern's mini rant
I have this beef with love triangles in books. Kelvin might eat my face or something for making this about interpersonal relationships, but this trending toward triangles is something I've been noticing for years now, and it has finally coalesced into this rant. Regardless of the focus of the story and the outcome of the triangle, if an author spends any amount of time building up the tension between the three characters, then you as the reader have an emotional investment in the resolution of that tension.

So I cannot figure out WHY authors write themselves into a corner with these love triangles, and then cop out right when it matters. It is NOT a satisfying resolution if someone leaves or dies or is not somehow forced to make a decision. If there is no DECIDING, then what was the point of all that tension? I'm not talking about the perceived-triangle-by-the-fanbase, like Harry/Hermione shippers or anyone who thought Bella would ever choose anyone but Edward (yeah, I went there), but a book where you become emotionally invested in the relationships and there is a real question about how it will end.

I have very few complaints about this series (even the ending, although it was sad-making), but I felt a little let down by Gale just LEAVING. You may say that I missed the point, and I will freely acknowledge that I'm caught up in the greater pattern and could be blind to why this was a necessary resolution. So by all means... am I alone in feeling like for all the build up, the resolution of this love triangle left something to be desired?

That being said... I love love LOVE these books, and I love your faces for being adorable fangirls and fanboys about it. Hehe.
SPOILER!!: Agreeing with Ern
Ookay OMG YES. I already told you this but yeah, I agree 150%. I feel like the ending is just so.... so empty, without enough detail. One minute Katniss is really the girl on fire and then I feel like in five pages, she's popping out babies with Peeta. WHY? WHY invest SO MUCH into the love triangle in the first place? I've seen so many promos and pictures with Gale in them already and yet, he doesn't even become a real player in the books until the second one. So what gives?

I wanted more detail about Prim's death too. I dunno. Her death was a huge disappointment, especially since the whole reason Katniss volunteered was to keep Prim safe, and then in the end, Prim dies. Mary totally pointed this out to me.

Such a good series with such a sucky ending, you know? Siiiiigh.


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I agree, I didn't like how Gale just LEFT, and this is coming from someone who was never ever EVER a Gale fan. Even though I always had a feeling she was going to choose Peeta in the end, and I never focused much on the love triangle bit of the book (I was THAT sure it was going to be Peeta) I wished Gale would have liked, I dunno, at least sent a Christmas card or something. I also didn't like all the blame he got for Prim's death. Yes, he made the bomb that killed her and that was awful. BUT it's not like he specifically pointed out the spot where Prim was standing and ordered them to fire there. It was an accident. So in a way I was kind of dissatisfied that she was like "I hate Gale now because he killed my sister". NO HE DID NOT STOPPPP

So it's not that I was disappointed with the ending of the love triangle--more like the ending of Katniss/Gale's FRIENDSHIP. I have such a hard time believing that after being such close friends for so many years, she just completely cut him out of her life and Gale never bothered to visit or write or anything. Then again, maybe I'd feel differently if I could relate to losing a sister I dunno.
SPOILER!!: Still Team Peeta
Yep. Yep. Don't even have anything else to say about that, because.... we all said it all. BOO on YOU, Gale, for choosing material wealth over an emotional and DECISION-LADEN GOODBYE with Katniss.



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I take it you finished all the head cannon I sent you?

Btw, for those of you who THIRST (see what I did there?) for more, I found this SUPER awesome site that has mini fics written about made up tributes of past games (or real tributes of past games).

Here

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It's not so much the relationships themselves that bother me. What bothers me is when people make the ENTIRE series out to be a love story when that's not what it's about AT ALL. And if you ARE going to make it a love story, then why not make it about Katniss's love for Prim? I mean, that's the whole reason she's in the games anyway.

SPOILER!!: spoilery stuff
But I do agree with you, Ern. If you're going to take the time to SET IT UP, then at least see it through. When I found out Gale left, I was just kind of sitting there like, "....oh. okay?" It felt like a really feeble attempt to tie up that loose end, which I didn't appreciate. It's like authors don't realize (which, how that happens is beyond me) JUST HOW MUCH people become attached to fictional characters. It's disrespectful to the reader, IMO.

But anyway, I have no problem with the romance in this series. Sometimes I got a little annoyed with Katniss, but when you don't know, YOU DON'T KNOW. I can get on that train.




SPOILER!!: mo stuff
I agree with you too, but like Ern, I read into it in that Katniss didn't have a CHOICE about what to do about Gale because he was just gone without a word. I mean I suppose I can see his logic. He realized that Peeta was what Katniss needed and decided to remove himself from the situation, but I can't help that it was so ABRUPT. But people do that in life, so I can see how it's believable.
SPOILER!!: I'm going to read those fics as soon as I get a chance
I still don't find it believable, his leaving, but WHATEVS DUDE. I'm just glad Peeta didn't stay hijacked forever, because that part had me talking out loud to myself and practically crying when he kept trying to choke her. IT WAS SO WEIRD. Peeta was like the Cedric Diggory of the series before the Capitol made him all Draco Malfoy like.

But at least they did end up together, so. YAY.


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Response to Ern, Lissy and Kelvin:

SPOILER!!: tick tock

On The Love Triangle: THANK YOU, ERN! You've put the finger on the VERY thing that was bugging me about the book series, what is it with authors and building up love triangles? I understand that it's what gets teenagers invested, especially if they introduce one romance long before the other and get people to buy into it. But Mockingjay just really annoyed me in that so much of it became an internal struggle between Peeta or Gale.

I honestly shipped Peeta/Katniss, but when Collins brought in the whole "She'll choose whoever she can't survive without." theme, WHY DIDN'T SHE FOLLOW THROUGH? If you're going to make that a deciding factor, then at least have Katniss think about it more than just her initial butthurt feelings.

On Gale's removal from the storyline so that Peeta and Katniss can have a neat little ribbon-wrapped ending:
LAME. The whole thing reeked of JK Rowling's post-DH interviews where she ended up having to reveal a bookload of information. It was a weak ending, a cop-out, even for Collins to just send him off to a glamorous job in District whatever it was.

That friendship was solid, and for all his talk of understanding her, as a reader I always got the impression that Gale wasn't a character who would just back off. He didn't MEAN to kill Prim, heck, we don't even know if he DID!

Honestly, the feeling I'm left with at the end of it all is: If she didn't specifically choose Peeta over Gale, she shouldn't have chosen either. It was a cheap ending.
SPOILER!!: NABS YES OMG YES
YES. Cheap ending it WAS and it DID remind me of JKR and her random epilogue THING. LAME. Needs more details. SO. Even though I loved this series, my top 3 disappointments are:

1. the non-ending with Gale
2. Prim's death
3. Finnick's death

No one mentioned him, and I really really liked the guy, and I was really hoping that at the end of the series, all the victor's would return to Victor's Row (or whatever it's called) and live in their houses and be neighbors and friends and all would end happily. I feel like taking him away was like taking away Fred Weasley, another one of my faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavorite characters ever.

And now Annie has to raise poor Finnick's baby on her own. SAD. TOO MUCH SAD.

Also, did anyone see Katniss having kids coming? I didn't.


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Who's heard the recent news about Suzanne Collins' prequel to The Hunger Games? It's scheduled to be released May 19, 2020.

Are you excited? I certainly am!!!

According to the websites that I've read, it will be set 64 years before The Hunger Games trilogy began.

'"With this book, I wanted to explore the state of nature, who we are, and what we perceive is required for our survival," she said. "The reconstruction period 10 years after the war, commonly referred to as the Dark Days — as the country of Panem struggles back to its feet — provides fertile ground for characters to grapple with these questions and thereby define their views of humanity."' (Source: U.S. News)
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I'm not sure how I feel about a prequel. HG has a lot to say about our society and where we can end up, and it feels like we don't need a prequel to lay it out for us. Plus HG is really character driven and what is air without Katniss?
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Lmao I just came on here to post basically what you just said, Raven.

I don't know if I'm going to read it. I'm also not a huge fan of writing a book about "excusing" Snow's behavior so idk. Idk. I think I might wait a little and see what other people think. But right now, I don't think I'm going to read it.
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I definitely want to read it - but I think I want to reread the actual Triology first.... I haven't read them in well over eight (??) years and I want to remember Snow as we know him.. before I read it. Does that make sense?

I also want to try and wait for a paperback copy of the book as my original books aren't hardcovers and I don't want it to look odd. XD
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I've read it ... and loved it ... not that anyone can actually think the Hunger Games is a good idea, but it's gives you a different preservative on them anyway!! It was great!
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