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Term 48: January - April 2018 Term Forty-Eight: Flight of the Hawk (Sept 2094 - June 2095)

 
 
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today'scharms lesson takes place on a chilly early November morning, but never fear! Professor Marchand has placed several heating charms on the classroom to keep it nice and toasty. As always, there are refreshments laid out on the table in the back of the room. Today's offerings include mini cheesecakes and hot cocoa.

The professor himself stands in his usual place at the front of the room, ready to greet the arriving students with a warm smile. Upon walking into the classroom, you may notice the setup looks a little different today. The desks are pushed together in groups of four, and at the center of each group of desks is a small maze. And that isn't the only strange thing! There is a cage sitting on Professor Marchand's desk; inside are many brightly-colored toy mice. Why does the professor have toy mice on his desk? Does it have anything to do with the lesson? You'll find out soon!

OOC: Welcome to the first OOC Charms lesson of the term! Class will officially start in ABOUT 24 HOURS (1:30 AM EST [GMT -5] Jan. 22) HAS STARTED!

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Shera looked at the blue mouse in her hands, sighing lightly as she slowly reached over placed it back in the cage. Her eyes glanced over to Harriet and Rylee to see what they were going to be doing or responding. She'd already seen a few of them look like they didn't want to let go of the mice. To be honest, neither did she.

The only reason she did was they said that they were going to be using them later.

What could they cast on their maze or mouse to make it more difficult? "Ummm.... Confundo maybe?"

She didn't like the sound of that though.
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He gave them a moment to redirect their attention and follow his instructions before continuing, "Don't worry if your mouse didn't complete the course. The main goal of the activity was to get it familiar with the maze so it will remember it later on." Yes, class, his emphasis on those particular words was a clue to the subject of the lesson. "Now, let's say we wanted to magically make the maze more challenging for the mouse. What are some spells we could use?"


SPOILER!!: Emmalyn
"Sir, I suppose you could make a few of the walls appear to be solid, when they are actually openings. Kind of like how we got on the the Hogwarts Express at Platform 9 3/4?" It was her best idea, and it wouldn't hurt Rose. The other students were already commenting on things that made her stomach swirl. Obliviate? Confundus? Jelly-legs curse?? Nope, she wouldn't be doing any of those to Rose.


Night liked Emmalyn's idea more than those of some of their classmates, but she had her own to add as well. Was it cruel to the mice? Probably no more than charming the walls, and definitely less than magically confusing the mouse.

"Professor, is there a spell or charm to make the cheesecake less fragrant?" It was a good idea, right?
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Success within the maze. Brilliant. Abra looked toward Jessa and grinned when their little mouse-rat-thing did indeed reach its cheesecake goal. But, well, really... Jessa's ideas were usually smart ones and smart ideas were usually successful ones (in Abra's opinion, at least) so he wasn't really surprised. Mostly just pleased.

Okay. Right. Yes. The maze. How to make it more difficult?

Naturally, before Abra could even properly kickstart his brain (mornings were hard, okay?) a bunch of answers had been given that he would have liked to provide. Part of him believed that he totally would have thought up all of those answers if he hadn't heard everyone else say them first, but a much more honest part - deep, deep down - knew that that likely wasn't the case. Memory charms did occur to him, but he had to question whether or not you could obliviate or confund something that didn't technically have a brain in the first place. That doubt was enough to stop him making any such suggestion.

Someone had mentioned something about trick walls, which got Abra thinking. An answer came to him, but all at once he felt too anxious about saying it out loud, in case it was mega stupid. But he had a trick for getting around that which involved being as non-committal as possible: pose the answer as a question.

"If the maze walls were charmed to be mirrors," he started off tentatively, and sort of quietly, quite forgetting to put his hand up considering he was a little preoccupied with both his thoughts and his anxieties about said thoughts. "Would that make a difference, confuse it maybe? Or do the mouse-rats not rely so much on what they can see?" How much COULD they see? Or smell? Or think? What was it like to exist as something animated only by magic?

...

Abra's head was starting to hurt.
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The success of the mouse was celebrated with a smile and Junia decided she was glad Jessa enjoyed thinking outside the box. It had made their group stand out in a good way and she was more than okay with this, she was.

The answers being given by her classmates were ones she'd considered, too. Truthfully, there were lots of spells that could change the maze, but to figure out how best to challenge the mouse, you'd need to understand the mouse better, yeah? It was Abey's answer, in particular, that made her think of that. "I'd say figure out what sense the mouse relies on most to make it through the maze, and use charms to make that sense harder to use. It'd challenge the mouse and make the maze more difficult to complete. Abe-Abra gave the example of mirrors and sight, and someone else mentioned messing with the cheesecake scent, which would make it harder for the mouse to use its sense of smell."
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Patrick couldn't figure out a different spell than what had already been answered among the classroom. Unfortunately he wasn't super amazing at charms when it came to answering the question. Actually handling a charm that Professor Marchand had demonstrated at the front of the room he was decent at. "Honestly, I have to agree with Hattie, blurry vision makes it really hard to get anywhere." he wasn't sure what else he could suggest.
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Ah…. Juni was just about to let her mouse try the maze again when professor Marchard said that time was up for this part of the activity. Well that was okay though since they were apparently using them again later.

The fourth year got up and put her mouse in the cage. She went back to her seat and listened to question, then the answers of the others. Like everyone had a great ideas. She raised her hand ”What about Colloportus, seal off some areas so that they have to take a different route, and add some secret passages and trap doors.” She didn’t think that there was a spell for either secret passages and trap doors. She wasn’t even sure if that would work at all.
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A spell or charm that would make it more challenging for the mouse? Hmm... Some of her peers were coming up with some cool ideas. Something like the moving staircases. Multiple smells to lure them away. But what about.... "What about an Extension charm? Give the impression that the maze is much smaller but in reality it isn't. " Would that charm even affect the mouse? She was unsure.

"As for spouting water out, maybe embedding a charm like the Aqua Eructo Charm could work? Then again, can you embed a charm in an object?" she wondered as her mind wandered to newer thoughts. Hmmm..
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"TIME IS UP, CLASS!" he called as he stood beside his desk. He picked up a box he had hidden behind his desk, and with a flick of his wand, several small cages floated out of the box and landed on the students' desks. "Please put your mice in these cages for now; we'll be using them again later."

He gave them a moment to redirect their attention and follow his instructions before continuing, "Don't worry if your mouse didn't complete the course. The main goal of the activity was to get it familiar with the maze so it will remember it later on." Yes, class, his emphasis on those particular words was a clue to the subject of the lesson. "Now, let's say we wanted to magically make the maze more challenging for the mouse. What are some spells we could use?"

Oh they had run out of time. Their mouse was at least investigating the cheesecake smears so that theory had somewhat worked. When the cage appeared Bel put their little toy mouse inside it and looked up at the professor.

Familar. Remember. Okay. She looked at the maze doubtfully, considering the question as other people's answers washed over her. Bel looked around at the other members of her group, then at the toy mouse in its cage, and then put her hand up. And then right down again since she was about to suggest a mirroring spell to make a mirror maze, but Abra said basically that. Mirror maze woo. Which are GREAT fun, Bel wanted to add. And you know, why not make the maze experience fun for the mouse too? Maybe the mouse would enjoy mirror mazes like she did? She smiled in Abra's direction and frowned a bit trying to think of something else she could add instead.

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Uhmmmmm......

She looked down in the maze and then shoved her hand up again.

"We could fill the maze with water so that the mouse had to swim?" Would that count as an obstacle? Mice were pretty good swimmers though, weren't they? "And we could put little pontoons in for the mouse to rest on at different intervals... I read somewhere that mice that exercise a lot have more brain neurothingos firing and are better at memory things though so I guess it depends on the mice themselves........ I don't know if that counts for toy mice though."
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Honestly, Ronan couldn't think of anything that his classmates hadn't already thought of. Well, there was one thing. He knew that some people used shock collars to train their dogs (or used to, anyway), but that had always sounded cruel to him. So, nothing. Instead of speaking up, he just kept quiet and listened. Closely. And took notes, just in case this came in handy later, which he had a feeling it might.
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Oh duh. Skylar glanced over at Mr Head Boy as he spoke up and she regarded his words thoughtfully, cupping the fake charmed mouse had he spread the cheesecake bits over the maze.

Skylar was about to set the mouse back in the maze but apparently the familiarizing bit was over and so instead the sixth year returned the mouse to the cage. Not that she was opposed to holding it; it was fake and wouldn't harm her. Anyway, attention back on Marchand a moment as posed a question for them.

Magically make the maze more complicated? Was that magic on the mouse or the maze? Staring at the man thoughtfully a moment, she raised her hand finally. "is it possible to maybe magically charm some obstacles in the maze? Like a mini cat in its path... or water squirting out from one of the walls?"
It wasn’t long after Gaston posed his question that he saw Miss Diggory’s hand go up. He called on her and listened carefully to her answer, nodding in approval. “Indeed it is possible, Miss Diggory,” he said. “Either of those ideas would be effective – I especially like the one about the mini cat!” He smiled a little as he imagined an animated toy cat in the maze.

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Having been preoccupied with his sixth run of the maze, Garreth was slightly startled by the professor's voice booming across the classroom. He really had to be less jumpy. Maybe there was a potion for that. There was a potion for everything. Anyways, it was time for Garreth's little green mouse to take his place in the cage, and just for fun, he gently placed the mouse on the table and created a cheesecake trail leading into the cage, which the mouse dutifully followed. "Good work, buddy." he baby-talked at the critter and closed the latch on his cage.

Ooh! A question from the professor? Spells for giving the mouse a hard time with the maze? Hmm... He raised his hand.

"Well, Professor, if we wanted the mice to struggle with the maze again, we could use Obliviate to simply make them forget the layout, but I suspect from your earlier presentation that that would defeat the purpose of today's lesson." he answered with a laugh. "But we could probably use The Confundus Charm!"
Gaston watched as Mr. Kenway led his mouse into the cage with a trail of cheesecake rather than just picking it up and putting it inside. He couldn’t help but smile as he overheard him talking to the mouse, and his smile grew even wider when he heard the boy’s answer to the question. He’d come very close to guessing the spells they’d be doing! “Sound reasoning, Mr. Kenway,” he said.

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As Lucky nibbled on his cheesecake treat, the professor called time. Jessi was disappointed that they hadn’t had time to go again, but what could she do? When a cage appeared on her desk, she opened the door. ”Sorry Lucky, but I’ve got to put you in here for a little while.”. She picked up the green toy mouse and placed him inside the cage. Then she put she last of his cheesecake inside with him and shut the door.

Turning her attention back to the professor, Jessi listened as he asked a question. She thought about it for a minute and then raised her hand. “Maybe we could use the Daydream Charm. That way, the mice could see things that weren’t actually there. The maze could look different and they would probably get confused.” See, she had been reading. Since Jessi didn’t know how to perform many charms, she figured she at least needed to know about of a lot of them. One step at a time.
Miss Velasquez’s hand was the next one Gaston saw, and her answer earned her a beam from the professor. He hadn’t expected a first year to think of the Daydream Charm! “Yes, that’s exactly what the Daydream Charm would do! Good thinking, Miss Velasquez!” he said.

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Maxton scooped up the pink mouse and set him carefully back down in the cage the Professor had provided at their desk. Apparently, they'd be using the mice later on in the lesson but Max figured it might be a good idea to swap theirs for an alternative. He had been rather slow through that maze.

The Professor asked how they could magically make the maze harder and Maxton was going to suggest the Confundus charm until an older Ravenclaw boy beat him to it.

There was no way he was about to raise his hand and provide an answer unless he was absolutely sure it was right and Maxton was out of ideas.
Gaston’s eyes landed on Mr. Carden. The boy was being quiet for now, but that was okay. Maybe he would have something to say later. He gave him an encouraging smile as he waited for more answers to come in.

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Harriet had quite enjoyed this lesson. It was quite nice to do things simply and without magic. Though this was a charms so she knew that they would need to use magic at some point. The task was fun, and it had meant that she had gotten to know some younger students too. It was nice to make new friends. Hattie remembered fondly that she had loved knowing the older students when she had been younger, so she hoped that she two girls she'd worked with were happy too. But they were moving on now, and so she paid attention to the class, after putting her mouse back into the cage.

Hmm. She thought about it, trying to think of how they could use magic to make the maze harder. She wanted to think of a good answer him. Eventually she put her hand up into the air. " guess you could use Obscuro, to obscure the mouse's vision as it goes around the maze, thus making it harder
Gaston was sure it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned something to do with sensory deprivation, and he nodded as Miss Paton named Obscuro. “Yes, obstructing the mouse’s vision would be an effective way to hider its progress. Nicely done, Miss Paton!” he said.

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Kye did as instructed and put the mouse away. With a thoughtful expression, Kye thought about the question. Yes, she definitely agreed with confusing the mouse, or a spell to create obstacles.

"We could use a spell to maybe shift the maze around a bit? Ooh, or a disillusion charm on the cheesecake? There would still be the scent, but it would still confuse him." Kye was thinking out loud now... she wished she had more spells coming to mind. She could visualize what she wanted to do, but the spells were tip of the tongue.
Gaston nodded, smiling a bit at Miss Atwater’s ideas… both of them. “Good ideas, Miss Atwater,” he replied. “As you said, the mouse would still be able to smell the cake - and it could still feel around for it too – but a disillusionment charm would confuse the mouse for at least a few moments.”

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Rylee watched very closely as Harriet used almost the same technique she had to get the mouse through the maze again. The scent of the cheesecake really seemed to help the little mouse find it's way and she was going to keep that in mind. She was having a good time working alongside the older girl and her fellow first year Shera.

It was over much to soon however as the lesson moved on. Already having Cheesecake the mouse in hands made it much easier to get her inside the little cage. "Sorry, Cheesecake. I'm sure I'll get to play with you again soon.." she whispered setting the cage at the corner of her desk. Being as quiet as possibly she very quickly moved to her original desk but just to grab her bag before returning to sit by her group once more. Pulling out parchment and her quill she was ready to take down any notes while she thought of an answer to the professors question. "There's the Jelly-Legs curse," she answered softly wrinkling her nose a little. Not that she would use that on the mouse... even if she were able to cast it.
Blink, blink. Now here was an answer Gaston hadn’t been expecting! “Well, yes, I suppose that’s one way to hinder the mouse,” he replied with a small smile, trying to hide his surprise. “Very good, Miss Prichard.” That method was a bit cruel for his liking, but no less a correct answer.

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Miranda had listened carefully to the professor's instructions and did just as they had all been told.. Her mouse got rather good at finding its was way through the maze. It only needed to back track once as it learnt it's way. It has nearly made it through the entire maze when Professor Marchand stopped them and posed a question.

Hmm? What charms could they use to make it more difficult.... There were so many charms that could be used... " We could use an illusion charm, Sir. ", she said after being called upon.
Gaston saw Miss Blaze’s hand and called on her next. Her answer was correct, but he wanted to know a bit more about what she had in mind. “That’s true, Miss Blaze,” he replied, nodding. “Did you have a specific illusion in mind to use?”

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As he approached, Emmalyn tried her best to keep the tears from spilling from her sad brown eyes. Night was right, maybe she would be able to adopt another mouse, but she LOVED this one. Sure, she knew it wasn't truly real, but she didn't care. "Sir, please don't take Rose away." She pleaded, with the saddest look her little eleven year old face could make.

Then he announced they would be taking the mice away, for the time being. She instinctively held little rose close to her body as she saw the cages float up from the box and land on the desks. Not wanting to get in trouble or, Merlin forbid, lose house points, she very reluctantly placed Rose inside the cage. At least she was still on the desk with her.

A few tears fell from her eyes and slowly slid down her cheeks. She didn't even bother wiping them away. She knew she would be saving her ugly cry for later, when Rose was gone.

"Sir, I suppose you could make a few of the walls appear to be solid, when they are actually openings. Kind of like how we got on the the Hogwarts Express at Platform 9 3/4?" It was her best idea, and it wouldn't hurt Rose. The other students were already commenting on things that made her stomach swirl. Obliviate? Confundus? Jelly-legs curse?? Nope, she wouldn't be doing any of those to Rose.
Poor ickle Emmalyn! Gaston could tell she was trying not to cry, and it was breaking his heart! He wanted to give her a big hug until she felt better, but that would be inappropriate. Understanding dawned on his face when she spoke, and he bent so that his eyes were level with hers. “Shh… please don’t cry,” he said gently, his tone more like that of a father comforting a child than a professor giving a command. He aimed his wand at a small box on his desk and summoned a few tissues for the girl. “I’m not going to take Rose away. The spell I used on her wears off after time, and she’ll turn back into a toy. But if you come see me after class, I’ll put a stronger spell on her so she’ll stay this way. How does that sound?”

He wasn’t sure how or even if she would answer his question, but he was very impressed with what she said. “That’s a very creative answer, Miss Walsh,” he said, “and it would work well!”

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She watched the mouse as Ronan spoke and she did like the idea.
"Yes that could at least train him to go that way and look for the food." Though as they went to try it Professor good looking started talking again. She crossed her legs and turned to the front of the room. Mr. Fill my face could put the mouse back since he took it out.

She wasn't fully sure what charm would work that hadn't been talked about yet,
but she looked at the maze and tried to think of something. Running through all the spells in her head. "What about a duplicating charm where you could duplicate the cheesecake and place it in multiple places. I know we have many treats here, but if we didn't."

She kept looking down at the maze though thinking.
Now here was an answer he hadn’t heard yet! Gaston smiled, nodding in reply to Miss Valla. “That’s a good point, Miss Valla,” he said. “Nice job!”

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Scarlett frowned. She didn't like the idea of making mice perform for any reason, and now they had to think about how to make it MORE difficult? All the ideas the class came up with just sounded so...cruel. Making them confused? Jelly legs jinx? BOOOOO. Boo to ALL those ideas. She tried to think of the least obstructive thing she could and then raised her hand.

"Maybe you could charm some of the walls to move? So after a few seconds they moved, making the mice confused?" she suggested. It still was a terrible thing to do to them, but at least it wasn't painful or MEAN, like squirting them with water.
Gaston was slightly concerned as he noticed Miss Reynolds’s frown, but for now, he needed to keep his focus on the question at hand. He gave her a small encouraging smile, nodding approvingly. “Yes! That’s a very creative idea, Miss Reynolds!” he said.

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She couldn’t lie, despite already knowing what the outcome would be, Jessa was still pretty proud of their lab rat and the way things worked out. There was nothing like a successful experiment to wake a girl up. Although, to be fair, a failure would’ve woken her up too with arguably more success. Obsession was a dangerous thing and it was the most potent fuel when it came to her. There was just something about trying and trying and trying until you cracked the code.

Anyway, the man definitely had her more attentive than she’d been when she walked in earlier. Why couldn’t every charms class be another experiment? They could find innovative ways of getting things done or they could study outcomes. Merlin she’d never be late to class then—not that she was now save the odd time or two but you got the idea.

Jessa waited for the cage to arrive at their desk then plopped the little guy back inside, content with the promise they would get to use him again. All that told her was there would be more experiments making this officially one of the best charms classes ever. Right now she was perfectly in her element. They were discussing theories. This was life.

“We could mimic the moving staircases in the castle within the maze, causing the walls to move about as well. Constantly changing, which would then make the paths constantly change. That’d be pretty challenging.”
Miss Cambridge’s answer was long the same lines as Miss Reynolds’s, and it too earned an approving smile from Gaston. “Great idea, Miss Cambridge!” he replied. “A constantly changing layout would be challenging for any creature!” Including humans! He almost laughed to himself as that answer reminded him of his first encounter with the moving staircase.

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Shera looked at the blue mouse in her hands, sighing lightly as she slowly reached over placed it back in the cage. Her eyes glanced over to Harriet and Rylee to see what they were going to be doing or responding. She'd already seen a few of them look like they didn't want to let go of the mice. To be honest, neither did she.

The only reason she did was they said that they were going to be using them later.

What could they cast on their maze or mouse to make it more difficult? "Ummm.... Confundo maybe?"

She didn't like the sound of that though.
Here was another student on the right track! So it seemed Miss Ben-Ari agreed with Mr. Kenway’s answer. “Yes, that’s correct, Miss Ben-Ari,” Gaston replied with a small knowing smile.

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He gave them a moment to redirect their attention and follow his instructions before continuing, "Don't worry if your mouse didn't complete the course. The main goal of the activity was to get it familiar with the maze so it will remember it later on." Yes, class, his emphasis on those particular words was a clue to the subject of the lesson. "Now, let's say we wanted to magically make the maze more challenging for the mouse. What are some spells we could use?"


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"Sir, I suppose you could make a few of the walls appear to be solid, when they are actually openings. Kind of like how we got on the the Hogwarts Express at Platform 9 3/4?" It was her best idea, and it wouldn't hurt Rose. The other students were already commenting on things that made her stomach swirl. Obliviate? Confundus? Jelly-legs curse?? Nope, she wouldn't be doing any of those to Rose.


Night liked Emmalyn's idea more than those of some of their classmates, but she had her own to add as well. Was it cruel to the mice? Probably no more than charming the walls, and definitely less than magically confusing the mouse.

"Professor, is there a spell or charm to make the cheesecake less fragrant?" It was a good idea, right?
Gaston considered Miss Dixon’s answer, which was really more of a question, for a moment. “There is,” he replied with a small smile. “There are a few ways you could go about that. You could use a spell on the cake itself or magically encase it in a barrier that would stop the scent from spreading through the maze. Or if you really wanted to confuse the mouse, you could use a spell to fill the maze with a different scent that would overpower the cake and make it harder to smell. Very good, Miss Dixon!”

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Success within the maze. Brilliant. Abra looked toward Jessa and grinned when their little mouse-rat-thing did indeed reach its cheesecake goal. But, well, really... Jessa's ideas were usually smart ones and smart ideas were usually successful ones (in Abra's opinion, at least) so he wasn't really surprised. Mostly just pleased.

Okay. Right. Yes. The maze. How to make it more difficult?

Naturally, before Abra could even properly kickstart his brain (mornings were hard, okay?) a bunch of answers had been given that he would have liked to provide. Part of him believed that he totally would have thought up all of those answers if he hadn't heard everyone else say them first, but a much more honest part - deep, deep down - knew that that likely wasn't the case. Memory charms did occur to him, but he had to question whether or not you could obliviate or confund something that didn't technically have a brain in the first place. That doubt was enough to stop him making any such suggestion.

Someone had mentioned something about trick walls, which got Abra thinking. An answer came to him, but all at once he felt too anxious about saying it out loud, in case it was mega stupid. But he had a trick for getting around that which involved being as non-committal as possible: pose the answer as a question.

"If the maze walls were charmed to be mirrors," he started off tentatively, and sort of quietly, quite forgetting to put his hand up considering he was a little preoccupied with both his thoughts and his anxieties about said thoughts. "Would that make a difference, confuse it maybe? Or do the mouse-rats not rely so much on what they can see?" How much COULD they see? Or smell? Or think? What was it like to exist as something animated only by magic?

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Abra's head was starting to hurt.
Gaston’s eyes scanned the room for more hands up and landed on Mr. Botros as he spoke up… without raising his hand. He shot him a look as a reminder but didn’t say anything about it. His expression changed to a slight smile as he heard what the boy had in mind. “It could,” he replied, picturing the mirrors described. “It’s entirely possible a mouse could become confused and distracted by seeing its own reflection in the mirrors. Good thinking, Mr. Botros!”

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The success of the mouse was celebrated with a smile and Junia decided she was glad Jessa enjoyed thinking outside the box. It had made their group stand out in a good way and she was more than okay with this, she was.

The answers being given by her classmates were ones she'd considered, too. Truthfully, there were lots of spells that could change the maze, but to figure out how best to challenge the mouse, you'd need to understand the mouse better, yeah? It was Abey's answer, in particular, that made her think of that. "I'd say figure out what sense the mouse relies on most to make it through the maze, and use charms to make that sense harder to use. It'd challenge the mouse and make the maze more difficult to complete. Abe-Abra gave the example of mirrors and sight, and someone else mentioned messing with the cheesecake scent, which would make it harder for the mouse to use its sense of smell."
Another mention of sensory deprivation! Miss Botros’s answer got her an approving smile from the professor. “Sensible reasoning, Miss Botros!” he said. “Any form of sensory deprivation is a sure way to cause confusion.”

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Patrick couldn't figure out a different spell than what had already been answered among the classroom. Unfortunately he wasn't super amazing at charms when it came to answering the question. Actually handling a charm that Professor Marchand had demonstrated at the front of the room he was decent at. "Honestly, I have to agree with Hattie, blurry vision makes it really hard to get anywhere." he wasn't sure what else he could suggest.
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Ah…. Juni was just about to let her mouse try the maze again when professor Marchard said that time was up for this part of the activity. Well that was okay though since they were apparently using them again later.

The fourth year got up and put her mouse in the cage. She went back to her seat and listened to question, then the answers of the others. Like everyone had a great ideas. She raised her hand ”What about Colloportus, seal off some areas so that they have to take a different route, and add some secret passages and trap doors.” She didn’t think that there was a spell for either secret passages and trap doors. She wasn’t even sure if that would work at all.
Gaston was silent for a moment as he envisioned what Miss Primeaux was talking about. She was on the right track, that was for sure! “Those are great ideas, Miss Primeaux,” he said with a smile, “but in order for Colloportus to work, there must be a tangible door in place to close. Our maze has only bare openings in walls, so we would need to create a magical barrier to seal them off.”

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A spell or charm that would make it more challenging for the mouse? Hmm... Some of her peers were coming up with some cool ideas. Something like the moving staircases. Multiple smells to lure them away. But what about.... "What about an Extension charm? Give the impression that the maze is much smaller but in reality it isn't. " Would that charm even affect the mouse? She was unsure.

"As for spouting water out, maybe embedding a charm like the Aqua Eructo Charm could work? Then again, can you embed a charm in an object?" she wondered as her mind wandered to newer thoughts. Hmmm..
Gaston beamed as Miss Holden spoke up. “Yes, an extension charm could work,” he said. “Good work, Miss Holden.” He thought she was done, but then she mentioned Aqua Eructo. The sudden shift in thought caught him slightly off guard, but he nodded nonetheless. “You can, but embedding a charm is a complicated process. It involves not only the spell you intend to put in the object but others to attach it and to make the effects appear in a specific set of circumstances.”

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Oh they had run out of time. Their mouse was at least investigating the cheesecake smears so that theory had somewhat worked. When the cage appeared Bel put their little toy mouse inside it and looked up at the professor.

Familar. Remember. Okay. She looked at the maze doubtfully, considering the question as other people's answers washed over her. Bel looked around at the other members of her group, then at the toy mouse in its cage, and then put her hand up. And then right down again since she was about to suggest a mirroring spell to make a mirror maze, but Abra said basically that. Mirror maze woo. Which are GREAT fun, Bel wanted to add. And you know, why not make the maze experience fun for the mouse too? Maybe the mouse would enjoy mirror mazes like she did? She smiled in Abra's direction and frowned a bit trying to think of something else she could add instead.

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Uhmmmmm......

She looked down in the maze and then shoved her hand up again.

"We could fill the maze with water so that the mouse had to swim?" Would that count as an obstacle? Mice were pretty good swimmers though, weren't they? "And we could put little pontoons in for the mouse to rest on at different intervals... I read somewhere that mice that exercise a lot have more brain neurothingos firing and are better at memory things though so I guess it depends on the mice themselves........ I don't know if that counts for toy mice though."
Gaston thought he saw Miss Macindoe’s hand in the air earlier, but when he looked again, it wasn’t there. Now he saw it and called on her. He had to admit, making the mice swim was the most outside-the-box idea he’d heard so far! He beamed. “That’s a very original and well-thought out solution, Miss Macindoe!” he said. “Well done!”

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Ooo...the activity was over. That was tough luck.

Honestly, Ronan couldn't think of anything that his classmates hadn't already thought of. Well, there was one thing. He knew that some people used shock collars to train their dogs (or used to, anyway), but that had always sounded cruel to him. So, nothing. Instead of speaking up, he just kept quiet and listened. Closely. And took notes, just in case this came in handy later, which he had a feeling it might.
Here was another quiet one. That was okay; there would be plenty of time for Mr. Carter to speak up later on if he felt like it. Gaston gave the boy an encouraging smile before moving on.


Gaston's bright blue eyes scanned the room for any more hands in the air. Then he saw none, he addressed the class again, "Well done, everyone! All of your answers were great ideas to challenge our little mouse friends, but only Mr. Kenway and Miss Ben-Ari guessed the spell we'll be working on today: the Confundus Charm. This spell can be used on living creatures or on objects with some degree of sentience, like our enchanted toy mice. Or for a more historical example, this spell was used by Death Eater Barty Crouch, Jr. to trick the Goblet of Fire and enter Harry Potter in the 1994-95 Triwizard Tournament."

He waited a moment to give time for that information to sink in before he went on, "The Confundus Charm will not hurt its target; it simply causes temporary confusion. This can be general or specific to a certain event, depending on the caster's intent. While in this state, the target will be more susceptible to suggestion..."

Gaston gently lifted the blue mouse he'd used for his earlier demonstration out of the cage. "May I borrow your maze again?" he asked Skylar's group. He placed a small piece of cheesecake in the exact same spot he had earlier and set the mouse in the middle of the maze.

"Once the mouse is Confunded, he should follow my directions away from the cake," he continued, drawing his wand. "To cast, move your wand in a question mark shape and point directly at the target; the incantation is Confundo. Keep in mind that this spell requires careful concantration." He pointed his wand, making the apporpriate movement. "Confundo!" The blue mouse looked around the maze and squeaked quizzically. "Go on, little guy. This way..." Gaston whispered, gently nudging the mouse in the opposite direction of the cake. When it reached the start of the maze, he picked up the piece of cake and gave it to the mouse. "There we go. Eat up..." It nibbled contentedly as he placed it back in the cage.

He turned back to the class. "Take a few moments to practice the wand movements and incantation to yourselves, but don't cast the Confundus Charm on your mouse yet!" he instructed. "While you're practicing, here's something to ponder: What are the differences between the Confundus Charm and a Memory Charm?"

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Her hand was up as soon as he asked the question,
"Well professor the memory charm is to completely erase ones memories of certain events or in huge extremes all their memories, whereas the Cunfundo Charm is just a confusion of the memory that is the in the process of being made. For example, if I would point my wand and at the head boy and use the Cunfundo charm I could confuse him into thinking that his girlfriend was Skylar and have him possibly kiss her but once it's over he'd remember his girlfriend is actually is, whereas the memory charm would be taking the memory of his real girlfriend away." She smiled at the older students before turning back to her table.

She glanced at the boys and then pulled her wand. Maybe she could practice on one of them. A grin crossed her lips before she went back to thinking about movement and practicing them with her wand. For the words she felt she knew them, but whispered them with the movement of the wand just to practice. "Confundo, Confundo"

This seemed easy enough, she was ready to work with her mouse.
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Annoyingly, Garreth found it was quite difficult not to let the professor's acknowledgement of his correct answer get to his head. He wrestled with his swelling feelings of pride, trying to keep them in, and finally succeeded. What a struggle! Anyways, it was time to practice Confundo! Being a seventh-year, and a particularly inquisitive one at that, Garreth had plenty of experience casting Confundo, but it had been a long time since dueling club, and even longer since he'd had any actually good reason to practice that particular charm, so there was no harm in giving it a few practice casts.

Confundo! he thought to himself, tracing the image of a question mark in the air with his wand, and being very careful not to silently cast the charm. Yeah, he still remembered how to do this one.

"Ooh!" he couldn't help but squeak out before shooting his hand up at the professor's question. It was relevant to his earlier answer after all. "While the Confundus charm causes temporary confusion, disorientation and susceptibility to suggestion, it differs from a Memory Charm in that it doesn't actually erase any memories or thought functions. It just makes them difficult to access for a while." he answered confidently. "While the memory charm causes confusion and susceptibility to suggestion as well, they are more like side-effects of having all your memories erased, as opposed to the Confundus charm, where those are the primary effects."
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Note to self research the placement of charms in objects. Hmm... She'd have to work on it.

Confundus charm versus the Memory charm... Well....... She frowned slightly as the memory charm reminded her of her own mother and her memory incident. It was still a sore point for the Lioness. Then Zita mentioned that she could use the Confundus charm on her boyfriend which made Vi only frown more. Vi folded her arms, incredibly displeased by such an example because she didn't know whether or not she should trust whether the girl would do that, considering that she had kissed Derf at the feast.... Yeah if the Snake even tried to make a move on Tenacius or try casting a spell for "practice" and make him believe that Skylar was his girlfriend, then there would be consequences. Oh yes, she could, but don't try it Slytherin unless you'd like this Gryffindor to cast a certain jinx on you. Vi pursed her lips, utterly unamused now.

The Gryffindor Prefect raised her hand. "If you really wanted to replace the head boy's girlfriend, you could even use a false memory charm to achieve the same affect," she said pointedly at the younger year. "It implants a false memory into the victim's mind and you could alter many a things." Wasn't charms a charming subject?

Then she turned her gaze back to her wand, practicing drawing a question mark. She practiced over and over and over. And made sure to keep an eye on young Miss Zita who perhaps was developing eyes for the Head Boy or simply just enjoyed chaos.
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Oh dear, the time's up already but they hadn't finished the mini activity yet. Diandra then put the mouse back to the cage and listened to the Professor's question about how to make this activity become more challenging using a charm? Uhhhh.... Without using a charm, guiding the mouse to the right cheesecake path was challenging already. The badger didn't say anything because it seemed like all of her classmates had spoken up about that so... Moving on.

Confundus charm, right. Using that charm could guide the mouse easier because it would follow their instruction, right? And the difference between memory charm and confundo? That was easy, it's like the difference of orange and apple.... Or not. She was about to put her hand up and answer the question but when Zita Valla spoken up first, Diandra couldn't help but giggled at the example she had brought up. It seemed like that snake girl was totally obsessed with kissing. The Gryffindor female prefect (who was also the Head Boy's girlfriend) wasn't so happy about that. Okay, forget about that it wasn't her business so let's just go back to the lesson. "Confundus charm doesn't erase the memory, whereas memory charm... well, the purpose of that charm is to erase a specific memory and make the victim forget about things." Simply as that, no need to use an example.
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Poor ickle Emmalyn! Gaston could tell she was trying not to cry, and it was breaking his heart! He wanted to give her a big hug until she felt better, but that would be inappropriate. Understanding dawned on his face when she spoke, and he bent so that his eyes were level with hers. “Shh… please don’t cry,” he said gently, his tone more like that of a father comforting a child than a professor giving a command. He aimed his wand at a small box on his desk and summoned a few tissues for the girl. “I’m not going to take Rose away. The spell I used on her wears off after time, and she’ll turn back into a toy. But if you come see me after class, I’ll put a stronger spell on her so she’ll stay this way. How does that sound?”

He wasn’t sure how or even if she would answer his question, but he was very impressed with what she said. “That’s a very creative answer, Miss Walsh,” he said, “and it would work well!”
How does that sound?? It sounded absolutely wonderful! "Oh, yes sir, that would be fantastic. Thank you so much." She wanted to jump up and hug him, but thought better and remained in her seat. The day was turning out much better than she feared. Even better was he liked her idea, no matter if it was the answer he was looking for.

Confundo. She wasn't sure about that one. He did say it wouldn't hurt the mice, so that was good. She still felt uneasy about a spell that was done directly on the mouse though. It would have been better to do something to the maze. Much more comfortable about the charm after watching it preformed on the little blue mouse, Emmalyn picked up her wand.

"Question mark movement, point at target, say Confundo." She murmured aloud. "I can do that." She practiced the motion several times, then put her wand down to practice the incantation. She didn't want to accidentally put the charm on an unsuspecting student near her.

"Sir, it would seem the Confundo charm would be temporary and the Memory charm more permanent? Like, you would take away the ability to remember something forever instead of just making it a bit foggy with confundo." That seemed like a good answer to her. She had no idea what he was talking about with some Barty guy and a goblet with fire.
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He held his animated mouse over the maze while Skylar was working on her mouse, but already he could see that his mouse was detecting the direction of the cheesecake with the way it wiggled and trying to get into the maze itself. Which it did, and was heading towards the right direction until he scooped it up again. Well their technique seems to work well enough...

But indeed they were moving on with the lesson, and it looks to be about the spell made to cause confusion. And he had agreed with people suggesting placing obstructions or making the maze shift around. Then suddenly he became part of the discussion. Wait how did that happen?? He shifted in his seat to look at the Slytherin blonde, and tried to grin and shrug it off, because after all it was just an example right. Zita wasnt actually gonna do that right???

And then the response from ze girlfriend. He had to do a double take. Is Vi actually teaching them how to do it more effectively??? The grin froze in his face, but his blue-green eyes was giving signals to his beloved not-to-give-them-any-more-ideas. He might've instinctively sunk a little lower in his seat, as if that would make some difference trying to make his gangly frame with the poofy head a little bit harder to hit with some errant spell.

Oh and whats the difference between Confundus and a Memory Charm? "One can land you in detention and the other could lead to prison?" he muttered. He didnt know for sure of course, but just putting it out there for anyone getting funny ideas....
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Harriet raised a little eyebrow at Zita's explanation of the difference. Did she really need to bring other students into it? Could she not think of an explanation that might not offend others. Hmm. Maybe not. But she shook her head, and thought about the question herself. She hadn't really thought about it much before. There was no need to really. But she had some ideas that she could say. "I guess by using Confundus you could potentially confused someone enough to make them believe they were wrong? Or that what they had seen didn't really happen, and that they are just confused. I guess it depends on how long it lasts? I mean you can oblivate someone, and it last forever, so that might make it different from Confundus, which could be less permanent?" She wasn't sure, but she said it anyway.

And now to have a little practice. The blonde smiled, saying Confundus a few times. She could already do the charm, so she wasn't too fussed. She did want to try though, because practice was always good. She next spent a few seconds practising the wand movement. That felt okay. Now she awaited what they would do next.
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So they would be confusing the mice....which, she supposed implied that the way he charmed them made them sentient enough to be open to suggestions in the first place. Now she understood why he'd been the one to charm the toy mice. Not everyone had the level of concentration necessary for such levels of animation.

Jessa idly moved her wand about, practising the wand movement without really practising. Being so ahead of the syllabus, it was one she'd already learned but for the sake of not sticking out, the girl was willing to go through the motions.

"You could have as good or greater success leading the rat with a well placed memory charm as confusing him and guiding him yourself, which I think could be said about most things actually." Planting memories or removing them allowed you the opportunity to step back and left little room for confusion--nevermind that that was essentially what the spell was for. Perhaps it was better to say that a memory charm left less margin for error.

Over and over she drew the question mark but she didn't utter a word. It may have looked like she was non-verbally casting at the little guy in the cage but actually, she was just moving her wand. No real attempts had yet been made.
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Gaston considered Miss Dixon’s answer, which was really more of a question, for a moment. “There is,” he replied with a small smile. “There are a few ways you could go about that. You could use a spell on the cake itself or magically encase it in a barrier that would stop the scent from spreading through the maze. Or if you really wanted to confuse the mouse, you could use a spell to fill the maze with a different scent that would overpower the cake and make it harder to smell. Very good, Miss Dixon!”


Gaston's bright blue eyes scanned the room for any more hands in the air. Then he saw none, he addressed the class again, "Well done, everyone! All of your answers were great ideas to challenge our little mouse friends, but only Mr. Kenway and Miss Ben-Ari guessed the spell we'll be working on today: the Confundus Charm. This spell can be used on living creatures or on objects with some degree of sentience, like our enchanted toy mice. Or for a more historical example, this spell was used by Death Eater Barty Crouch, Jr. to trick the Goblet of Fire and enter Harry Potter in the 1994-95 Triwizard Tournament."

He waited a moment to give time for that information to sink in before he went on, "The Confundus Charm will not hurt its target; it simply causes temporary confusion. This can be general or specific to a certain event, depending on the caster's intent. While in this state, the target will be more susceptible to suggestion..."

Gaston gently lifted the blue mouse he'd used for his earlier demonstration out of the cage. "May I borrow your maze again?" he asked Skylar's group. He placed a small piece of cheesecake in the exact same spot he had earlier and set the mouse in the middle of the maze.

"Once the mouse is Confunded, he should follow my directions away from the cake," he continued, drawing his wand. "To cast, move your wand in a question mark shape and point directly at the target; the incantation is Confundo. Keep in mind that this spell requires careful concantration." He pointed his wand, making the apporpriate movement. "Confundo!" The blue mouse looked around the maze and squeaked quizzically. "Go on, little guy. This way..." Gaston whispered, gently nudging the mouse in the opposite direction of the cake. When it reached the start of the maze, he picked up the piece of cake and gave it to the mouse. "There we go. Eat up..." It nibbled contentedly as he placed it back in the cage.

He turned back to the class. "Take a few moments to practice the wand movements and incantation to yourselves, but don't cast the Confundus Charm on your mouse yet!" he instructed. "While you're practicing, here's something to ponder: What are the differences between the Confundus Charm and a Memory Charm?"


Night grinned at the professor's praise. Well, she was on the right track. And that was really interesting about confunding non-living objects as well as living ones. She hadn't known that about the triwizard tournament, but it made a lot of sense.

Oh, had there been a question as well? Ah, yes. The difference between confundo and obliviate. "Well, the Confundus charm is temporary, while the memory charm is supposed to be permanent, right?" That was part of it, wasn't it? She thought back to what she knew about the days of Harry Potter. "And if the memory charm is really strong, can't it basically destroy a person's sense of self? Like, they'll forget everything they ever knew? But the charm we'll be using today just confuses the object or person who it's aimed at, right?"

Breathe, Night. Breathe. Give other students a chance to talk. She began to practice the spell.

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..... Natalie rolled her eyes at Zita's response. She would do that too, wouldn't she?

She knew what the difference between the confundus charm and the memory charm was, and it seemed that everyone else knew too, so she just listened and got out her want to practice. She drew a question mark shape several times and muttered the incantation quietly to herself.

"Confundus... Confundus." She was excited to learn this one. She thought it may come in handy someday. For what, she didn't know, but it SEEMED like a good one.
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Constant vigilance. It was people like Zita that was why it was a thing. Ronan gave the girl a calculating look, trying to measure whether she actually had the guts to do something like that. If she did, it could quickly become a problem. Hmm. Maybe someone should alert the Headmistress? Though, at seeing the judgemental look on Harriet's face, he simply smirked. Anything that made the snowflake princess uncomfortable was fine with him. Though, could it maybe not come at the expense of his fellow Gryffindors?

"Obliviate is usually considered more severe than Confundo, which I generally agree with. However, Confundo can be right up there if used for the wrong reason. Like, if you just use it to confuse an opponent so you can get away, you're good. But, if you're using it for more nefarious reasons, such as sneaking a kiss from someone who may or may not be willing, then it could get you in a lot of trouble." Yes, consider it a notice. Though, he was still smirking.....

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Maxton practiced his wand movements while the other kids in class answered the Professor's question. He moved his wand in the shape of a question mark and then pointed it at an invisible, imaginary target on the desk. Seemed pretty simple so far.

"Confundo," he muttered quietly under his breath. "Con-FUN-doh."

He hoped he was getting the pronunciation right.
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Zae thought this gryffindor prefect might be onto something. She saw the lion placing cake crumbs along a trail for the mouse and it seemed to be working. Zae had hope for her mouse because its nose was sniffing the smell of the cake and just about when it was gonna start on the trail the teacher called times up! Zae snapped her fingers and they were soo close. She shrugged innocently at the gryffindor prefect and heard the professors question. To make the maze more challenging what spells would he use. She heard some spells being tossed around the classroom and she agreed with the spell of Daydream charm and disillusion charm and felt she didn't need to repeat it.

What are the differences between the Confundus Charm and a Memory Charm the teacher asks. Zarina didn't really have any idea. Zae had an idea, "Well I guess the confundus charm is temporary where the Memory charm is permanent till someone casts the counter charm?" Now onto practicing the charm. Zae began to practice, "Confundo....confundo...confundo.." Now she moved her wand in a question mark shape and point directly at her imaginary target.

She did a few times till she felt comfortable and was ready to move on.
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Zoryn missed the group work already. It was too good to be true. How come they couldn't continue to do that for the rest of the lesson??? This theoretical stuff was just not cutting it, y'now?

The Gryffindor practiced the wand movement despite this, not really making an effort to try the spell yet. There wasn't any point when she probably wouldn't get it to work anyway. Magic was hard. She liked it when they got to do stuff in groups cause then people like Jessa, who were actually good at magic, could do the grunt work.

As for the question, everyone had sort of already answered what Zoryn could've said too. But since everyone was pretty much saying the same thing.. the Gryffindor offered something else, "The incantations probably, that was a difference. Honestly, it was probably the biggest difference.

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Even though her suggestion hadn't been correct, honestly Skylar wasn't surprised about Confundus Charm being the correct charm they would be working on today. Listening to Professor Marchand continue the discussion on about it with the incantation and wand movement, she nodded as he borrowed her group's maze again.

Taking a few diligent notes about the demonstration, she glanced up at the question and at Zita's response in particular. UM. That was just an example, right? Regardless, Skylar found her blue-gray orbs glancing between Tenacius and Zita and Vi. Also wouldn't she have to be confounded as well? But yea not that she would have objected to the whole kissing Tenacius thing, and she was sure Vi would have been understanding since it was out the Confundus Charm, but SHE herself was all meh about it too. She did the whole snog-the-guy-your-friend liked thing, even it meant nothing. And she was over it. Also she was kind of exclusively snogging only one guy as of recently too. But it was just an example.

And an example that caused Skylar to be completely distracted and unfocused on comparison between that and the memory charm. Yes, what that first year Emmalyn said and her amazing chaser, Zarina said. Memory charm was more permanent. Also, for some reason this didn't seem to sit right with her in that Zarina also mentioned that memory charms can be reversed whereas they were also permanent!? Wasn't that contradictory?!

Which was then that Skylar raised her hand... "If memory charms can be reversed, they wouldn't necessarily be permanent, but i think maybe their effects are longer lasting than a Confundus Charm. And yet a Confundus Charm is multi-layered too and there's even theories about it being similar to the Imperius Curse in that both can be used to control humans and non-humans. The control is actually an important difference because its used for manipulation of something to do the caster's bidding, with malintent or not, whereas memory charm alters the memory as if something didn't exist."
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