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Old 04-17-2010, 06:51 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Which Dumbledore do you perfer? Richard Harris, who acted in the first two movies (Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets)? Or Micheal Gambon, who acted from movie the third movie until the end (Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix, Half-Blood Prince, Deathly Hallows: Part 1 and 2)? Why?
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Richard Harris because he totally makes Dumbledore a Dumbledore. The other one (I can't remember his name) makes him seem too giddy.
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I like Richard Harris for the first two movies, but I dont think he would have done a better job than Micheal Gambon for the next four because he seems more like a Dumbledore that is kind like he was in the first two, not like being fierce especially in the 4th, 5th and 6th.
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I like Richard Harris better. He brought out Dumbledore a lot more.
Michael is good but I like Richard better.
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Quite honestly, I haven't a preference. I know so many people are fond of how Harris portrayed him, but the biggest issue for Gambon was trying to fill shoes already filled, you know? It would be the same if, say, Daniel Radcliffe died (knock on wood D=) and they had to recast Harry for the final movie. Beyond the difficult transition for a very visual audience to adjust to a new face, new appearance, etc., of course the acting style would be incredibly different. You cannot expect any two people to act that same. And while Harris was indeed a great loss for the films, I don't feel Gambon has done BADLY as Dumbledore.

Realize that the director is in on how the actor portrays his character. While the director probably gives them some sort of freedom to play the role the way they desire, the director has a vision, a way they want to see this scene and if they don't one hundred percent like the way an actor has played their character, they will do a cut, a re-do, and will do this however necessary until they are satisfied.

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I like Richard Harris for the first two movies, but I dont think he would have done a better job than Micheal Gambon for the next four because he seems more like a Dumbledore that is kind like he was in the first two, not like being fierce especially in the 4th, 5th and 6th.
I really like this statement, and agree with much of it. Harris portrayed a wonderful Dumbledore in the earlier movies, where all was innocent, before an immediate darkness had fallen. Oh, true, Harris probably could have played out a more serious Dumbledore, adjusted to the darker mood, but Gambon HAS done that.

You cannot simply compare the two because, while it's the same role, they are different people. And, unfortunately, we cannot bring Harris back. It is unfair to Gambon to not give him a chance; I'm sure he's doing the best he can, considering the circumstances.
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I personally prefer Michael Gambon. Richard's DD was too much of a loving Merlin to me, even though he could raise his voice quite effectively.

Michael's DD is more "dark", for lack of a better expression. He seems like the older fan's wizard, and Richard's character was geared more toward the younger kid fans.
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I personally prefer Michael Gambon. Richard's DD was too much of a loving Merlin to me, even though he could raise his voice quite effectively.

Michael's DD is more "dark", for lack of a better expression. He seems like the older fan's wizard, and Richard's character was geared more toward the younger kid fans.
All in all, I feel the whole of those first two movies were better geared for children. Admittedly, I realize, the books themselves sort of were - the initial books were very child-friendly, were the build up to the darkness. But because of that, I think people have this mentality that Dumbledore is this jolly Merlin-esque character, where I LIKE the darker side of Dumbledore. We've seen through the books he's not perfect, he's made mistakes, and he's not always happy and easy-going. That's unrealistic.

I just... I never understood WHY people DON'T like Gambon. o_O
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I definitely like Richard more and miss him terribly in the movies. But I do have to agree with Ashliee on Michael Gambon has had very large shoes to fill, because Richard was Dumbledore from the first two movies, he set the image in most of our heads what Dumbledore should be like.

I don't think Michael Gambon is a bad actor, absolutely not or.. a bad Dumbledore. And again, I agree with Ashliee on the fact the movies are getting darker and Dumbledore's no exception to the 'no ones perfect, everyone has flaws' rule of life.

BUT there has been a few things that Michael has done as Dumbledore that really makes me wish Richard was still around to play the role. For example, in GoF, yelling at and shaking Harry came off to me as absolutely ridiculous and not Dumbledore-like. Yes, he was angry as the rest of the Profs were and suspicious, whatever way you'd like to describe the moment - but BOOK Dumbledore did not react that way. *shakes head* That also could have been, and probably was, part of his script though; so really not his fault. *shrugs*

To me, Richard Harris was simply Dumbledore from the start, it looked like an effortless role (when obviously it wasn't.) and he fit naturally into it. Now we have Michael Gambon, and I'm sure he's doing his best; gotta give him some credit. He's not a bad Dumbledore. *nodnod*
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Well, they put in a lot of things that were not in the books in the movies. But like I said before, Richard did a good job in the first two and Michael did a good job in the next four. They both bring something to DD that the other couldnt.
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I think both are nice actors.
I like both of them. richard harris did the good work in first 2 films and michael is also do the good work in HPPoA to HPHBP.
but personally I like richard harris more!!!
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Harris's portrayal was really close to how I imagine Dumbledore to be, and so Gambon was a bit of a dissapointment to start with, even though it is a completely awesome actor. However he really grew into the character, especially in HBP, he did such an amazing job. He was waaay to energetic and bouncy in PoA and GoF... Dumbledore is supposed to have an air of energy to him that doesn't resonate through just physical movement!

soo i think they were both brilliant. how conclusive of me. -.-
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I liked richard better because I think he portrayed the deeper side of Dumbledore, and I just think he played him better. He's just a better Dumbledore. But michael has done a good job as well. Kudos to both for taking on such an important role!
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Quite honestly, I haven't a preference. I know so many people are fond of how Harris portrayed him, but the biggest issue for Gambon was trying to fill shoes already filled, you know? It would be the same if, say, Daniel Radcliffe died (knock on wood D=) and they had to recast Harry for the final movie. Beyond the difficult transition for a very visual audience to adjust to a new face, new appearance, etc., of course the acting style would be incredibly different. You cannot expect any two people to act that same. And while Harris was indeed a great loss for the films, I don't feel Gambon has done BADLY as Dumbledore.

Realize that the director is in on how the actor portrays his character. While the director probably gives them some sort of freedom to play the role the way they desire, the director has a vision, a way they want to see this scene and if they don't one hundred percent like the way an actor has played their character, they will do a cut, a re-do, and will do this however necessary until they are satisfied.

I really like this statement, and agree with much of it. Harris portrayed a wonderful Dumbledore in the earlier movies, where all was innocent, before an immediate darkness had fallen. Oh, true, Harris probably could have played out a more serious Dumbledore, adjusted to the darker mood, but Gambon HAS done that.

You cannot simply compare the two because, while it's the same role, they are different people. And, unfortunately, we cannot bring Harris back. It is unfair to Gambon to not give him a chance; I'm sure he's doing the best he can, considering the circumstances.
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Harris's portrayal was really close to how I imagine Dumbledore to be, and so Gambon was a bit of a dissapointment to start with, even though it is a completely awesome actor. However he really grew into the character, especially in HBP, he did such an amazing job. He was waaay to energetic and bouncy in PoA and GoF... Dumbledore is supposed to have an air of energy to him that doesn't resonate through just physical movement!

soo i think they were both brilliant. how conclusive of me. -.-
~I quite had the same words to say; and they really were both good. Both had different qualities. Richard Harris did well as a calm Dumbledore, and just as Hermione_loves_Ron said, he did--as the first two films were sort of a "starting phase" towards Harry's adventure--you know, probably kiddy-like to some viewers. But I guess it just fit. For the 3rd film (& books) and onwards, I think it's acceptable to say that Michael Gambon did a great job portraying Dumbledore. I pretty much liked the intensity he has done to Dumbledore's character.
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Personally, I think dumbledore is the worst character ever made in any series. However the better actor in the movies is probably Michael Gambon. Just because Richard Harris was too frail and slow in his movies. Michael atleast brought the character some dignity. Even though the fact that his beard is tied makes me hate the character even more than I already do.

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I personally liked Richard Harris better. I think he just acted and looked more like how I had pictured Dumbledore to be while I was reading the books. However I do think that Michael Gambon ended up doing a nice job in the 6th movie.
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When I first think about it, I have to say i'd go with Richard. To me, he just seems to be more of the Dumbledore that I pictured while reading the books. But as the books progress Dumbledore does become less grandfatherly and more of a person with a certain fierceness or a troubled background, and Michael does a very good job of portaying that.
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I liked both in the end but I have more affection for Richard's Dumbledore.
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As much as I grew to love Gambon in the role, Harris just WAS Dumbledore for me. He just seemed the way I imagined DD from the books. They never really got the look right for Gambon and it irritated me to no end that he didn't wear "half-moon spectacles" like were mentioned in the book a hundred times.
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Richard Harris. He's great and a giant in acting. He was so old, wise and has his own magic that added it to the character. He is Dumbledore.
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Personally, comparing their acting skills is a no-no but If I will choose, I will pick Richard Harris,,,, He is the perfect portrayal of Dumbledore based from what I have imagined....sad he need to leave the muggle world that early.....
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I personally prefer Michael Gambon. Richard's DD was too much of a loving Merlin to me, even though he could raise his voice quite effectively.

Michael's DD is more "dark", for lack of a better expression. He seems like the older fan's wizard, and Richard's character was geared more toward the younger kid fans.
I cant agree more! Michael Gambon brings the edge and mystery that Dumbledore has in the books.
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Michael Gambon. I can't see how Voldemort would be afraid of the Richard Harris DD, he's just so... old and loving. I could imagine how he would just collapse in a battle or something.
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Richard Harris is laaaame. When you watch the movies 3-6 it's more like "YAY Dumbledore's about to speak!" while in the two first ones it's more like whatever...
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RICHARD HARRIS! It is always a slight disappointment when an actor has to be replaced. It changes the image, and persona of the character. Even though a character to be the same if one person was acting to another, it just doesn't work out that way. This is why we have casting people. But i do believe we found the best replacement for Richard Harris. (RIP)
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I like them both but will say that I think towards the last few movies the way Gambon portrays Dumbledore is the better of the two.
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