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Old 02-18-2010, 06:11 PM
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Post J.K. Rowling explains Grindelwald & Dumbledore's relationship + Draco's wand transfer

J.K. Rowling elaborated greatly on Gellert Grindelwald's relationship with Albus Dumbledore in the Harry Potter series in an interview, stating that while Dumbledore did have romantic feelings for his former friend, they were never reciprocated. Jo also went on to explain why she chose to have Harry and Draco's wand transfer in the final book (thus making Harry the true owner of the Elder Wand), Deathly Hallows, as uneventful as possible, and how significant that choice was.

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JKR: [re: Grindelwald] I think he was a user and a narcissist and I think someone like that would use it, would use the infatuation. I don't think that he would reciprocate in that way, although he would be as dazzled by Dumbledore as Dumbledore was by him, because he would see in Dumbledore, 'My God, I never knew there was someone as brilliant as me, as talented as me, as powerful as me. Together, we are unstoppable!' So I think he would take anything from Dumbledore to have him on his side.
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I wanted to ask you about that, because Grindelwald resembles - the golden curls, the first person I thought of was Lucifer.
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Mm-hm. So you can call it a fraternal bond, but I think it makes it more tragic for Dumbledore. I also think it makes Dumbledore a little less culpable. I see him as fundamentally a very intellectual, brilliant and precocious person whose emotional life was absolutely subjugated to the life of the mind - by his choice - and then his first foray into the world of emotion is catastrophic and I think that would forevermore stun that part of his life and leave it stultified and he would be, what he becomes. That's what I saw as Dumbledore's past. That's always what I saw was in his past. And he keeps a distance between himself and others through humour, a certain detachment and a frivolity of manner.

But he's also isolated by his brain. He's isolated by the fact he knows so much, guesses so much, guesses correctly. He has to play his cards close to his chest because he doesn't want Voldemort to know what he suspects. Terrible to be Dumbledore, really, by the end he must have thought it would be quite nice to check out and just hope that everything works out well. [Laughter.]
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Because he's set up this massive chess game -
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Mm, this massive chess game. But I said to Arthur, my American editor - we had an interesting conversation during the editing of seven - the moment when Harry takes Draco's wand, Arthur said, God, that's the moment when the ownership of the Elder wand is actually transferred? And I said, that's right. He said, shouldn't that be a bit more dramatic? And I said, no, not at all, the reverse. I said to Arthur, I think it really puts the elaborate, grandiose plans of Dumbledore and Voldemort in their place. That actually the history of the wizarding world hinged on two teenage boys wrestling with each other. They weren't even using magic. It became an ugly little corner tussle for the possession of wands. And I really liked that - that very human moment, as opposed to these two wizards who were twitching strings and manipulating and implanting information and husbanding information and guarding information, you know?

Ultimately it just came down to that, a little scuffle and fistfight in the corner and pulling a wand away.
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So I think he would take anything from Dumbledore to have him on his side.
Oh Grindy you bad boy *Teddy smacks Otty* I meant to say, how conniving of him. That he would even consider trying to "use" Dumbledore. I guess thats the difference between him and Dumbledore, he'd go there and be all evil and use people ... *Teddy reminds Ottery how Dumbledore used people* but Grindy would do it for evil purposes.

I wish Jo would write this book ... a book about Dumbledore's adventures when he was younger, and also the adventures of the Marauders, there's so much stuff that ... I mean so much unmined territory.

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Ultimately it just came down to that, a little scuffle and fistfight in the corner and pulling a wand away.
*Teddy looks at Otty*
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Old 02-18-2010, 10:47 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Jo is great!!!
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:45 PM   #28 (permalink)
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"The moment when Harry takes Draco's wand, Arthur said, God, that's the moment when the ownership of the Elder wand is actually transferred? And I said, that's right. He said, shouldn't that be a bit more dramatic? And I said, no, not at all, the reverse. I said to Arthur, I think it really puts the elaborate, grandiose plans of Dumbledore and Voldemort in their place. That actually the history of the wizarding world hinged on two teenage boys wrestling with each other."

I really liked this, because it is so true. The whole fate of the wizarding world ended up depending on those two boys, which is really quite ironic. JKR has such a fantastic sense of humour. I love the fact the we got an interview from her again.
I agree. That was brilliant and very true.
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I love how the transfer of the Elder Wand is such a small moment! I love it! I get chills every time I re-read that part of the book. You would never know unless you already know. It's so clever on her part to do that.

The same goes for when Draco actually becomes the owner of the wand. He just disarms Dumbledore and that moment is so small in comparison to everything else that's going on that you never think about it. I LOVE JKR!!!!



And the relationship between Grindlewald and Dumbledore is so fascinating. She can write a whole book on that alone.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:01 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Great to have a Rowling interview, as we rarely ever get one! Brilliant.
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Old 02-19-2010, 01:43 AM   #31 (permalink)
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amazing, more of these interviews would be just great
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Tha'ts really interesting.
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Old 02-19-2010, 03:17 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I love how the Elder Wand changing hands is so subtle. It really sneaks up on you (especially if you're ridonculously oblivious to details like me, haha)
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:19 AM   #35 (permalink)
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all you can say to that is
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Great interview
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Brilliant! I am OBSESSED with Dumbledore, so I love having this extra information! Poor Dumbledore. I feel sooo bad for him. I wish he could have found a mate. Grindewald, the meany! Interesting stuff about wand though. I decided that if I was in the wizarding world, I'd study wand lore because its just so fascinating! I love Jo!
He did find a mate, his good friend Harry =).
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utter brilliant as always!! Respect all over!!
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Old 02-19-2010, 12:55 PM   #39 (permalink)
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ok.........i don't really understand it much. but J.K. Rowling is still awesome!
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So brilliant! JKR should be the director!
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This is why I love JKR. She's so clever. My gosh, I just love her!
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Jo has the most brilliant mind, I love the comparison with Lucifer, and also the fact that it came to one fight between Draco and Harry-such a small thing-which led to such a big event taking place! Completely brilliant!
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I love the way JK Rowling made it so Harry managed to modestly get Draco's wand and the Elder Wand. He didn't do it because he hated Draco he was forced to take the wand because he was wandless do to it breaking previously. And at the same time it explained why another wand doesn't work as well if it isn't your own.
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