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11-27-2011, 01:05 AM
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| Gnome
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: USA
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Christopher Wireman Sixth Year |
She wasn't wearing the Hrocrux in Order of the Phoenix. And I think she always has been and always will be evil, through and through. Whenever my cousin sees her he always says "Hate that woman!"  Every time he sees her, it never fails!
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11-27-2011, 01:59 AM
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| Lobalug
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Planet earth
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Angela Voeldues First Year |
That's a good one! Wow, um... No. Just, no. That woman is a -censored- all the way to her core.
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12-07-2011, 08:33 PM
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| Imp
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The Shire
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Annabeth Bernadette Kane Fourth Year |
I do not think that Umbridge has any good in her, she has a horrible nice way of telling people off and reminds me of my primary school teacher, although, I don't think that my teacher would be that mean in a detention!
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12-14-2011, 04:59 PM
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| Horklump
Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Diagon Ally
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| I am the heir of slytherin and I hate mudbloods No! shes really an old hag and toad face! because shes so weak and to be a good evil she know to understand the main point |
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03-03-2012, 08:35 PM
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| Dementor
Join Date: Feb 2012
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No. She's a horrid little woman and that's that.
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03-03-2012, 09:04 PM
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| Augurey
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Eorzea
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She's just a horrible woman
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03-04-2012, 05:11 AM
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| Fire Slug
Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY
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I wonder what happened to her after the Battle of Hogwarts. I bet she would try to say that she was bewitched to act that way. I hope she was punished and never allowed in a position of power or authority ever again.
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03-04-2012, 05:20 AM
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| Blast-Ended Skrewt
Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: GMT +4
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Umbridge? And Good? No ways! I can't even imagine her good...
Umbridge & goodness are like two ends of a spectrum for me |
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03-10-2012, 05:18 PM
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| Dementor
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Hogwarts
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I have one 'Umbridge' in my school...Hate that 'little,sweet,innocent' woman!
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04-22-2013, 08:03 PM
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| Gnome
Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: My books
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Kommoto Yammoto First Year |
If only the world could be divided into good people and death eaters. Umbridge wasnt wearing that locket until the seventh year. so she was just naturally that evil, vile , and power hungry, not to mention racist.
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08-12-2014, 04:10 AM
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| Puffskein
Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: any place with food
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Alessandra (Alli) Whitt First Year Ministry RPG Name:
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Thank goodness I'm not the only one who thinks she was evil deep down. I feel like Umbridge was just an angry and evil woman through and through. Really obvious fun fact: Umbridge is really close to the English word Umbrage, which means to offend and or to be rude and offensive
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08-12-2014, 05:24 AM
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| Wrackspurt
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Noooo, she definitely is not a good person. :/ She is power crazed, bigoted, and seems like a sociopath to me. I think the locket might have enhanced her evilness, but definitely wasn't the cause of it.
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01-07-2015, 02:25 PM
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| Streeler
Join Date: Oct 2009
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True, Umbridge is a terrible person. And we have never gotten any proof of her having a good side at all. But that just makes me wonder how she became that way. I mean, maybe she is some kind of sociopath?
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04-05-2020, 04:53 PM
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My opinion of Umbridge has not changed from the very first time I've encountered her character: she really is evil. It really would take something heartbreaking to occur to her in order for her to change for the better. However, IMO, she does not have a heart.
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04-17-2020, 01:36 AM
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| Bundimun
Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Upstate New York
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Alice Boyle Sixth Year |
NNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! If we were allowed to swear on this site, I'd choose a more colorful vocabulary. Regardless, she's a horrible, selfish, greedy little troll. I mean yeah, I hate Voldemort, but I really think I hate Umbridge more!! There is no one in the world, fictional or otherwise, that I hate more!!
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04-30-2020, 04:23 PM
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| Streeler
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Originally Posted by bookiebee NNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! If we were allowed to swear on this site, I'd choose a more colorful vocabulary. Regardless, she's a horrible, selfish, greedy little troll. I mean yeah, I hate Voldemort, but I really think I hate Umbridge more!! There is no one in the world, fictional or otherwise, that I hate more!! Indeed! Voldemort might be the main villain of the series, but I too hate Umbridge more. That is probably because she is a more realistic character than supervillain Voldemort, so she will get under your skin so much easier.
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05-01-2020, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Furienna Indeed! Voldemort might be the main villain of the series, but I too hate Umbridge more. That is probably because she is a more realistic character than supervillain Voldemort, so she will get under your skin so much easier. Oooooooh, I've been wondering why it is that I have a stronger dislike for Umbridge and I think you get at it v well here. Voldemort is ~fantasy~ and kind of exciting and v dramatic. Umbridge is like another version of one of my fourth grade teachers. Hits too close to home. Not a fan.
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05-01-2020, 11:01 PM
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| Murtlap
Join Date: Apr 2020
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Alexia 'Lexie' Harris First Year |
I think that Umbridge THINKS she's good and right by doing what she does in book five. In her mind, restoring this 'balance' and 'order' to Hogwarts is correct, and she's doing the right thing by doing this. In this case, the 'order' she restored was horrifically unbalanced and horrible. Is she objectively good deep down? I don't think so. Was she good before she got the Horcrux? I think that depends on what moral code she was following at the time. She seems like she would be lawful evil in my opinion.
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05-19-2020, 12:07 AM
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| Bundimun
Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Upstate New York
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Alice Boyle Sixth Year |
Noooooo!!! There's not a good, caring, loving bone in her froggy body. She's selfish and power-hungry and downright evil. There is no fictional character or even person I've met in my real life that I hate more!!! |
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06-02-2020, 05:27 AM
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| Streeler
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Originally Posted by ArianaBlack Oooooooh, I've been wondering why it is that I have a stronger dislike for Umbridge and I think you get at it v well here. Voldemort is ~fantasy~ and kind of exciting and v dramatic. Umbridge is like another version of one of my fourth grade teachers. Hits too close to home. Not a fan. Indeed. It is much easier to come across a sadist teacher (even if Umbridge is worse than even most of those; Snape is more realistic IMO) or a corrupt government official.
That is why Umbridge is creepier than the more fantastic Voldemort, no matter how evil he is. Quote:
Originally Posted by macaroni I think that Umbridge THINKS she's good and right by doing what she does in book five. In her mind, restoring this 'balance' and 'order' to Hogwarts is correct, and she's doing the right thing by doing this. In this case, the 'order' she restored was horrifically unbalanced and horrible. Is she objectively good deep down? I don't think so. Was she good before she got the Horcrux? I think that depends on what moral code she was following at the time. She seems like she would be lawful evil in my opinion. Here are some good points. Umbridge is probably delusional enough to believe that she's doing the right thing. And that is scary.
Last edited by FearlessLeader19; 06-13-2020 at 06:10 PM.
Reason: Double posting.
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06-03-2020, 06:01 AM
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| Murtlap
Join Date: May 2020 Location: Canada
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We've received no hints whatsoever of her having any good tendencies in any of the books. However, there's always a reason for why people act the way they do, and I wonder what her backstory is and what made her the person she is.
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06-03-2020, 01:23 PM
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| Streeler
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Originally Posted by Midnight Marauder We've received no hints whatsoever of her having any good tendencies in any of the books. However, there's always a reason for why people act the way they do, and I wonder what her backstory is and what made her the person she is. What we know is that she was a half-blood, no matter how much she would deny that.
Dolores's mother was a muggle-born and her brother was a squib.
They decided to leave the wizard world after Mr and Mrs Umbridge got a divorce.
After that, Dolores refused to speak to them again and also despised her father for his lack of ambition.
Maybe it was hard for the kids that their parents had a bad marriage until their divorce when Dolores was 15 years old.
However, there seems to be no real explanation for why Dolores became what she became.
I guess a combination of ruthless ambition and being ashamed of her family turned her towards being evil.
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07-02-2020, 11:33 PM
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| Flobberworm
Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Michigan
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I have to agree. She was bigoted and judgmental long before she ever owned that Horcrux. |
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07-03-2020, 11:11 AM
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| Streeler
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Indeed.
She was in fact acting like a racist towards the centaurs, which is why they did what they did to her.
Last edited by Furienna; 10-25-2021 at 01:20 PM.
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05-05-2021, 05:27 PM
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| Bundimun
Join Date: May 2021 Location: Sweden
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JK made Umbridge worse than Voldemort. She is evil because she thinks the end justifies the means. She's prepared to use an unforgivable curse on Harry. She attacks his owl. She does a lot of really evil things - knowingly - because she thinks the end is more important than the methods you use to get there.
She lies. She cheats. She blackmails. She does violence upon children. She is a vile character through and through. She's on my top 3 list of the worst people inside the Potter-verse.
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