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Default What are your thoughts about the 'Cursed Child' book/plays?

With the release of the Harry Potter and the Cursed Child plays and book now taking place the weekend of July 31st, and with dozens of reviews spoiling massive plot points, it's safe to say that not too many secrets can be kept anymore regarding the eighth story in Harry Potter's saga.

So, after the book is released at midnight on Sunday, July 31, fans around the world will finally see what happens to Harry, Ron, Hermione and their children after the epilogue of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.




This will be a spoiler-full and spoiler-free thread for the story of the Cursed Child. For those who want to talk spoilers, please make sure to keep them under a spoiler cut. To make a spoiler cut here, use the coding (just copy/paste what's in bold):

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And after this point, we feel it's unfair to say that all spoilers and secrets should be kept, since critics had zero problem spoiling everyone about the plays and story days before the opening and book release.

So, without further ado - DISCUSS BOOK EIGHT, HARRY POTTER AND THE CURSED CHILD, IN THE COMMENTS BELOW!

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I was actually surprised with Hermione. But anyways, the book never mentioned about her race so it's okay.
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Enjoyed the book, Well written and i liked the insights into the original charries futures
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I quite enjoyed it. I have seen some mixed feelings about it, but keep in mind it isn't a BOOK. It's a script from a play. It is meant to be seen as a theatrical writing. KEEP THAT IN MIND!
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I enjoyed it, but it didn't quite sit as well with me as the books. It seemed to lack the same kind of depth... having said that, you're right Eriin, it is meant to be a play, so my opinion right now is half-formed really, need to see the play before I'm sure what I think of it all!
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I think people are let down by it being called "the eighth book". Expectations are really high. If everyone will go into it with an open mind and take it for what it is, I think it will much more enjoyable!

With that being said...
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CAN WE DISCUSS THE SNAPE SCENES?! I actually teared up a bit. GAWD! When he was so moved by Albus' name I thought I might die.

But one thing I did NOT like was that Harry said he had never fought alone. I mean... as a kid, yes. But how did this famous Auror and Head of DMLE get to where he is without being able to duel on his own?! That is the only thing that rubbed me wrong, really.

And was I the only one who thought Scorpius aND Albus were going to end up romantically involved?

Aaaaand Hermione as Minister was brilliant!
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I think people are let down by it being called "the eighth book". Expectations are really high. If everyone will go into it with an open mind and take it for what it is, I think it will much more enjoyable!

With that being said...
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CAN WE DISCUSS THE SNAPE SCENES?! I actually teared up a bit. GAWD! When he was so moved by Albus' name I thought I might die.

But one thing I did NOT like was that Harry said he had never fought alone. I mean... as a kid, yes. But how did this famous Auror and Head of DMLE get to where he is without being able to duel on his own?! That is the only thing that rubbed me wrong, really.

And was I the only one who thought Scorpius aND Albus were going to end up romantically involved?

Aaaaand Hermione as Minister was brilliant!
Yeah I agree with that, I wasnt actually expecting it to be in the form of the script, I still enjoyed it but i can see how from the start people would be dissapointed
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I read it on a plane running on 3 hours of sleep and extreme jetlag but... Was it just me or did it just read like a fanfiction piece? Not even a really GOOD fanfiction piece..just an okay one. The characterization fit canon..but it just didn't quite feel...the same as magical..

Wonder if reading it again will help.
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I really enjoyed it. I found it easy to read, and enough was going on that I refused to put it down, because I just wanted to know everything that was going to happen.
I think I'm still not ready to let the Harry world go, and I was just grabbing at the (last) chance to hear more from J. K.
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I didn't like it at all and just wanted to be over with it

The reasons for that were:
  • The complete disregard for JKR's character personalities. THE characters that I've got to know in the real Harry Potter books wouldn't have acted like that at all, in my opinion.
  • The language of the play - it was just so... childish? Yes, it's a play. Yes, it's not a novel. Yes, it's supposed to be simpler, but it's too simple.
  • I don't think the writers even know some of the laws of wizarding world magic. At times, I felt they just randomly said, "hey, this thing should work like that" and ta-da, the magic works differently than how it did in JKR's books.
  • The lack of originality? (I need to explain this with spoilers, so here we go)
  • And some people that I've spoken to said the years don't even match, but I didn't really sit down and calculate, so I don't know this one. Just thought I should write it down.
  • The stuff that don't make sense at all to me will also be under spoilers.

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  • Is the ministry's security so insecure as to be confused just by Polyjuice? Like??? Then it's a miracle the ministry has stayed safe for so long.
  • Why... would... a clever minister... like Hermione, who perfectly knows about time-turners... keep it in her room?????????? Why???????? And why wouldn't she put on an alarm or something for if someone tried to steal it???? And don't even get me started on the whole riddle stuff, which was so SO Philosopher's Stone's obstacles. They were ALREADY using an object that could REVIVE Voldemort, they could have protected it in a different, original way that didn't include two clever Hogwarts students' going through riddles.
  • Still on this matter, it's such an unimaginative cliché that THE VERY FIRST BOOK Scorpius touches happens to be THE VERY FIRST RIDDLE.
  • Albus' FIRST EVER kiss came from his aunt, and he didn't even FEEL weird? I don't know if the actor on stage could project that, but I didn't get that while reading the script.
  • The part with Trolley Lady lacked depth.
  • I'd really really like to know what made them come up with different outcomes of the two times the boys interfered with the past. What made them think Hermione would become a DADA professor if she didn't marry Ron? Why does Harry even DIE in the second scenario anyway? Neville was killed by Cedric because Cedric turned dark etc, but is the good heart of Cedric really that fragile to be broken by a (presumably brief, considering he graduated Hogwarts soon) period of taunting?
  • Still on the second time when Harry dies, I think Snape wouldn't have continued on Dumbledore's army AT ALL. He's always hated Harry (and the trio as a consequence), Harry is the son he couldN'T have with Lily, the son of his arch enemy. He only protected Harry, because he was Lily's son. However, until the moment he learnt Voldemort was after them, he had been perfectly dark and believed their cause. So once Harry was dead, why would he even bother? That was a huge failure in character analysis in my opinion.
  • The five-minutes-rule. Why is it even five minutes????? Why not six, four, or two-twenty seven, but five????? HOW could two boys, whose ATOMS didn't even EXIST during the Triwizard Tournament, travel to that time anyway? Wasn't it time travel's golden rule: "Be there, where you were in the past." They tried to make it like "hey this is new this is a whole different time-turner" but no, the world that JKR created doesn't work like that. At least that's my impression.
  • The time turner allows time-travel for 5 minutes, but the transfiguration spell of 4 very capable wizards doesn't hold on for 30 seconds (the last scene when they transfigure Harry into Voldemort). However, when Hermione had transfigured Ron's face in the seventh book, the spell had stayed on for quite a while (until they passed through Gringott's waterfall).
  • I also didn't like the whole Delphina/Delphi/whatever her name was thing at all. She was just there to create a conflict, but of all the things they could have used to create an "evil"... and she fell down quite easily for a witch that could fly without a broomstick, by the way.


So I'm sorry if my opinions are offensive to the people who liked it, but this is how I feel about it. I fully realise that the author wasn't JKR, and that's precisely why I am criticising it even more harshly. If you are going to write a story BASED on an already perfectly establishED world, you must analyse the characters and that world deeply, so that you get it fully right. If you aren't up for that analysis, then create your own world, or at least don't use the existing characters. ESPECIALLY for a story that has such a huge and devoted fanbase as Harry Potter.

I'm sure it is magnificent on-stage. But as a script book, it disappointed me big time.
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I didn't really enjoy book one. I felt the book pick up when
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The language of the play - it was just so... childish? Yes, it's a play. Yes, it's not a novel. Yes, it's supposed to be simpler, but it's too simple.
I second these. I had issues with the Golden Trio's, Draco's, Snape's and Ginny's dialogues. I mean, for those who read the 7 books and Cursed Child would immediately pick up on the difference.

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1. I don't think that Cedric would be that easily turned to the bad side. (I think this is my biggest issue)
2. The Trolley Lady. Like whut? It was really surprising to see her go all ninja.
3. I loved that Hermione was Minister.
4. I enjoyed the scenes with Hagrid at the Potter House in Godric's Hollow.
5. I hated how Harry made Albus stay in the Gryffindor tower instead of the Slytherin Dungeons and he changed the timetables for the two Houses just to keep Albus & Scorpius apart.

Finally. I LOVE SCORPIUS'S & ALBUS'S FRIENDSHIP!
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I enjoyed the read, but it was totally different then the first 7 books. Reading a script form just isn't the same as reading a book novel form to me. A lot of detail seemed to be lacking in The Cursed Child. All in all I'd give it a 6.5/10.
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I noticed all of the differences that people have mentioned, but I also didn't go into this with any preconceived notions about the SCRIPT. People continue mentioning the books... and the original characters, etc. JK helped write the script, no? Her name is part of the byline, after all. She was well aware of the nuances of the play since she collaborated on it.. Pottermore correspondent even said she helped build the plot and the others were in contact with her throughou.

It is a dramatic writing, so I didn't look at it as a glorified fan fiction or some rule bending thing... again, JK helped plot it and vetted the whole thing bu entrusting the others to go ahead with it. I guess I just am not arguing with her on it and definitely took the whole thing at face value. The disregard for characters was only in the alternate realities. Alternate. Realities. Otherwise, I think the piece captured the charries as well as we could have imagined... considering they're so much older and have grown so much. But know that I am not condoning the alternate reality versions of the charries... they did stink up the place.

I guess I just hold a more easy breezy outlook on it. It was fun as a script. It was never the 8th book. Things were vetted by JK. I accept the script as it is.
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Before I got it I knew it was going to be in script form so that was no surprise to me at all. I enjoyed the read, but it cannot be compared to original 7 books at all. A lot of fans are mad that this book is even being tied with the others which I feel is absurd, but it is just not on the same scale as the others. That being said I did enjoy it a lot.
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I have got it to read but it is English Reading and not my 1st language so it is taking me long time to finish it. So far what I read has been good.
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It was a great read. I enjoyed the story a lot and I know J.K. said there will be no more, but I hope in time there will be.
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To be honest I am not impressed. As a non-canon piece of fanfiction, it was very enjoyable.

However, there were so many contradictions to the original series, not to mention the noticeable difference in writing quality (Even for a play), that I can not take it seriously as canon.

JK putting her stamp of approval on the script is not the same as JK writing the script. She had very little hands on involvement with its creation.

Overall, it was very disappointing.
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I agree with Starshine that much of this book was kind of a disappointment. And I hate to say that because Harry Potter is a perfect series (my fav) and I really, really wanted to love this book just as much. Even after I finished it I tried to mentally argue with myself that it was awesome. In fact I think I even told a few people here on Snitchseeker in visitor messages that yeah, I liked it. Really I was trying to convince myself. So here is my honest review.

The thing I hated more than anything else - brace yourselves, this is terrible:

SPOILER!!: Cursed Child spoilers!!!
Cedric becoming a demented Death Eater and killing Neville in an alternate reality. It completely undermines the "kind, decent boy" (Dumbledore's words) who believed in fair play (telling Harry about the egg, wanting to cancel the Quidditch match in POA even though he won because Harry fell off his broom) and instead reveals that his goodness was only on the surface and all that it took to break it was to Aunt Marge him.

Help me here. I tried wracking my memory and re-reading the books to see if there is any character that has turned evil so easily, even someone unimportant that was just mentioned. I can't find anyone. Voldemort was always evil. Draco Malfoy was always cruel, but even he is shown to have more goodness than Cedric, as he wouldn't kill. Peter Pettigrew is the closest I could come up with, but we don't know about his past and he always was a bit of a coward (laughing at James and Sirius tormenting Snape). Cornelius Fudge was not evil, he was just blinded about reality and a little corrupt - but that was always in his character.

This is not X-Men, where characters quickly shift from good to evil within the spam of a movie. Cedric is the only one. I'll never be able to read Goblet of Fire or watch the movie in the same way, because now this is canon.


Another thing I didn't like:

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Ron giving Harry's son a love potion. This one might seem small, but it really isn't. Love potions were definitely featured prominently in the original series (especially in Half Blood Prince) but Rowling never promoted their use as a good thing. Romilda Vane's attempts to poison Harry were definitely funny, but you never got the feeling that we were supposed to support her in that. She was being shallow and love potions were actually banned by Dumbledore. Perhaps the clearest indictment of love potions is that that was how Tom Riddle was conceived: not through love but through force. We all know how that ended.

Love potions are just as bad as the Imperius Curse, because they take away your free will. If love potions existed in real life and people were using them we all know what that would be called. It's wrong. It could even be evil, depending on how far you go with it. And in the books Rowling recognized. Shame on Ron and shame on Jack Thorne.


To be fair, there were some things I really loved about the Cursed Child:

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1. Albus Potter is in Slytherin! Scorpius is a good kid and he's in Slytherin too. This was what I was really, really hoping for - and the script came through. In the books all the Slytherins we see are either mean (Snape) or evil, with the exception of Horace Sluhorn, who's not even a student. But there couldn't be 200 evil children at Hogwarts. That wouldn't be fair. I never liked the part in the movie of Deathly Hallows part 2 (this didn't happen in the book) where Minera sends the Slytherins to the dungeons. So Cursed Child definitely needed some good Slytherins, some proof that you can be a kind and decent person no matter what house you're in. Credit id due both to Rowling and Jack Thorne for this, although I'm not sure whose idea it was. I was so happy when I read this that I thought I was going to love the whole thing. Oh well.

2. Small thing, but I also loved Moaning Myrtle's cameo. There were a lot of cameos but hers was my favorite. When I was a little kid she was my favorite character and I still love the Moaning Cutie. (Luna is my all-time favorite)

3. Delphi was a cool villain and it's good that they didn't kill her. At first I was split on her, but I like how it turned out.


Whew! So there it is. Not trying to offend anyone, if you loved it that's great for you. I would love to debate with you on the points of this post because you're awesome and I respect your opinions. There were things I liked but I couldn't ignore the negative things. There is not even one negative thing I have to say about the original books, so that's what makes Cursed Child stand apart. Warner Brothers is thinking about making Cursed Child a trilogy, starting in 2020 - needless to say, I think that's a bad idea.

A little off topic, but I know Fantastical Beasts and Where To Find Them (which is the first of at least five movies! Woot!) will be awesome. That's the one we're looking forward to now and I know it will be different. I can't wait!
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I have to say that I wasn't totally impressed by the whole thing, but I also didn't feel it was a total disappointment as well.

I know back around March JK Rowling said there would be no movie based on The Cursed Child, but now I am starting to here rumors floating around again that there may be a possibility that this could occur. Has anyone else heard any rumors like this?
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I have to say that I wasn't totally impressed by the whole thing, but I also didn't feel it was a total disappointment as well.

I know back around March JK Rowling said there would be no movie based on The Cursed Child, but now I am starting to here rumors floating around again that there may be a possibility that this could occur. Has anyone else heard any rumors like this?
Yeah, Snitchseeker and other sites have reported rumors that Warner Brother's wants to make Cursed Child into a trilogy. I hope it's just a rumor.
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I loved Cursed Child really well. It had some major flaws, but it was still enjoyable. It does not stack up to the Original series. I loved Scorpius Malfoy. He has got to be my favorite character in the book.
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Having seen it in theatre, I can't deny that Cursed Child had some pretty big flaws... namely the plot holes, which were numerous and glaring, but even if you overlook these it seemed to be for a younger audience than the later books in many ways; the cliche of the villain definitely detracted from it in some ways, amongst other factors.

However, I think that these flaws really pale a lot when the show's seen onstage. The special effects were absolutely out of this world and put any other production I've seen to shame. It's true that the story was relatively weak but I think the characters were wonderful, especially Albus and Scorpius, I could watch them all day- and Harry and co. didn't seem terribly out of character to me; it was only to be expected that they would change somewhat as they got older. Overall I think it was a wonderful addition to the wizarding world- my main qualms were actually with the Hogwarts professors, especially McGonagall and Snape, who I felt were really weakly portrayed compared to the books and films (though maybe that's due in part to the irreplaceable actors in the films...) and yeah, the whole villain thing, which felt like it was only there because they felt a need for some figurehead of evil and couldn't be bothered to think of a whole new way to do it.
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I just want to say that I really enjoyed it. I the criticisms about it are totally valid, not everything about it sits right with me, but all the same I found it very exciting to read.

SPOILER!!: Cursed Child spoilers!!!

- I'm a sucker for that time travel stuff
- Scorpio and Albus's relationship was really cool and different
- The Harry/Draco parts were interesting
- Ron and Hermione <3

BUT

- I did find Harry confusing at times
- It didn't seem very Cedric to go dark
- and things were not well thought out like the books

It's not the same Harry Potter, not perfect, but still interesting to me.
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Enjoyed both *.*
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