Lesson 1

[Cassirin]

You see a notice tacked to the front door of the classroom:

Attention students. The first DADA class will occur Thursday, March 18 at 8:00 EST. Please be prompt and bring all of your supplies with you. Please also bring with you any ideas or topics you would like to discuss this term, as well as a positive attitude.

[Cassirin]

The door to the DADA classroom is open. You enter and see the Professor at the front of the room, feverishly writing on a sheet of parchment.

"Hello, class will begin shortly. Please find a seat and get your supplies ready." She smiled and returned to her notes.

[Miss Radcliffe the Pirate]

Chelsea walks in, eager for the first DADA lesson to begin. She takes a seat near the back and places her bag on the table, getting ready.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

:Christina slowly walks into the classroom taking a seat toward the back of the class: "hello Professor"

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*Nadia anters the class and finds a seat in the front row, not wanting to miss anything.*

"Good afternoon, Professor."

[That_Potter_Chick]

Alana walks into the class and takes a seat near the front, pulling out her quill, ink, and parchment.

[Arkee Maldemer]

Arkee squirmed in her seat. She wasn't too thrilled at the prospect of having to learn how to defend herself. To her, it implied that she would most definately find herself in a situation that required this kind of knowledge, and of course nobody wants to be in that kind of situation.

"Professor, will there be a review session for students who didn't attend last year?" she asked.

[Kellarae]

Rowen walks in and sits down by Chelsea. She starts to get her supplies out of her bag.

[MonkeyBJr]

*walks in and picks a seat near the front* Hello Professor, I can't wait for the lesson to start! *takes out supplies and waits for others to come in*

[Miss Radcliffe the Pirate]

Looks up at Rowen. "Hey! Excited?"

[Dawn Bloom]

Dawn walks in and takes a seat, pulling out her suplies and folder.

[Moony521]

Moony walks in and can't wait for class to start.

"Hello, Proffesor."

She takes a seat near the front and starts to get ready. Smiling non-stop.

[Kellarae]

"A bit," Rowen says, smiling at Chelsea

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*Smiles & Waves at Christina, Chelsea and Dawn. Then Nadia takes her supplies: her wand, her books for basic defense against dark arts, and her own items, like her own Foe Glass, securely pocketed in her robes.*

[TeamDuskurk]

Sky walks in and takes a seat in the middle of the room. She doesn't want to seem overly eager by sitting up front.

[quidditch_chick]

quidditch_chick walks into the classroom ready to start her first class of defense against the dark arts. She sits down by some of the ravenclaws and takes out her wand, quill, paper, etc.

"Hello...."

[Sakura_kura]

"I'M here! I'm not late! Had to run!" Sakura sits down by a window and takes out her stuff.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

:Waves to Nadia: "hey excited about class?"

[Padfoot521]

*Padfoot takes a seat next to Moony*
"Hi Professor, nice to be in class!"

[Sakura_kura]

"Quitage_chick! good, i'm glad i'm not the only raven claw!" Waves

[Moony521]

"Hi, Padfoot" Moony turns to her friend."Are you excited?"

Moony now was happier then ever.

[That_Potter_Chick]

Alana looks around. "I'm a second year, does that make me special?"

[Cassirin]

Professor Rae smiled at the large group of eager students. "Welcome to Defense Against the Dark Arts. I"m not much for protocol, so let's just call it what you all call it anyway. DADA. I hope you are all as eager to learn as I am to teach. I have posted class rules outside my office, and I hope you took the opportunity to review them before showing up today. I'd like to remind you not to chat during class. Now... enough boring talk. Let's get started."

The professor walked around her desk and sat on the front of it, her legs swinging a bit.

"I'm Professor Cassandra Rae. I do have a bit of background in the Dark Arts, which is why Headmistress Loryen asked me to teach you this year. Obviously, I know about the Dark Arts, but what I'd really like to learn during the first class is what YOU know."

"Why do you think we need to learn about defense against the Dark Arts?"

[TrickC]

*walks into the class room and takes an empty chair*

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

"Why would being a second year make you special?"

[Sakura_kura]

"To be prepaired for the future?"

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Because the Dark Arts will always be present, and there will always be times when we need to defend ourselves against it?" answered Arkee uncertainly.

[That_Potter_Chick]

*raises hand* To protect ourselves!

[TrickC]

Originally posted by Cassirin@Mar 18 2004, 07:12 PM

"Why do you think we need to learn about defense against the Dark Arts?"
So we are able to protect ourselves against the Dark foreces.

[MonkeyBJr]

I think we should learn about DADA because if we don't know it, we'd be in trouble if it ever came up sometime when we're out of school all by ourselves.

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*raise hand* To defend ourselves from tha danger from ohter magical creatures, and specially of those considered *dark*

[Sakura_kura]

"I think every one is right, since it's personal opinion" Sakura kura says quitely

[quidditch_chick]

"To no only learn how to defend ourselves but what we need to defend ourselves from."

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 07:15 PM
*raise hand* To defend ourselves from tha danger from ohter magical creatures, and specially of those considered *dark*
"But not all magical creatures are inherently dark, right? They're not all out to get us people."

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 07:15 PM
*raise hand* To defend ourselves from tha danger from ohter magical creatures, and specially of those considered *dark*
"I agree"

[Sakura_kura]

"I agree as well"

[Moony521]

*raise hand*"To know about the danger of the wizarding world and know how to defend ourselves against it"

"I agree"

[Dawn Bloom]

I think we need it because some time or another we will be in peril and will definetly need it.

[Padfoot521]

I think that we need to learn DADA because if the time arrose where you had to defend youself you need to know how and what other tings you may need to defend yourself against. It is better to be safe that sorry.

[TrickC]

i agree with everyone!

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*raie hand again* Also to practice defensive-offensive kind of magic, better known as *anti-hexes*, which some authors consider another word for hexes too... it wouldn't be wrong to consider it that way, after all *anti-hexes* aren't but hexes used for defensive situation, but are hexes all the same, and even the *anti-hex* idea come from an ideology like "the one who started is the real responsible" while those fighting back are doing harm as well... " Nadia wonders.

[augureycry]

::Riley takes a look at how many students seem so eager to learn defense, then again, it wasn't unfounded was it? She is seated by her fellow Slytherins and sends a smirk to the Gryffindor side of the room.::

[Moony521]

"all of us are right I think"

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

:laughs at rileys actions:

[Sakura_kura]

"Every one sounds so smart in this class...I'm only first year! I need to learn!"

[Padfoot521]

I agree with every one also!

[Cassirin]

Professor Rae raised her hands to silence the class and gave a loud laugh. "Wow... that was overwhelming. Obviously you all have an opinion about why a class such as this is necessary. I heard a lot of variations on the same idea... we don't know what will cross our path, and we need to be prepared. Unfortunately, there IS Dark Magic in the world, and it doesn't just happen to those who are prepared. We at Hogwarts want to send our students out there ready for as much as possible.

Now... and please, I want thoughtful answers. Don't just blurt something out... let's try to form a general definition so we are all on the same page. What are "Dark Arts?" What does that term even mean?"

[Meandering]

Peony raised her hand. "Magick is neither black nor white and it can never be categorized into those two. Dark Arts is magic used to hurt someone. Even a charm like Wingardium Leviosa could be termed as Dark Arts if someone used to to levitate his enemy right off a cliff."

[Sakura_kura]

"To be evil or be driven to do somthing wrongful-like hurting people"

[TeamDuskurk]

The Dark Arts are a form of magic used to harm others.

[That_Potter_Chick]

*raises hand* I'm not sure... I think magic that is used for evil purposes.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Dark Arts is the magic performed for bad things. The Dark stuff. The bad stuff you could say. It isn't used to help, it's used to hurt and use people. Evil stuff." Ashlie said.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

:lazily raises hand: "Magic that goies against wizarding laws....."

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer+Mar 18 2004, 10:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 10:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 07:15 PM
*raise hand* To defend ourselves from tha danger from ohter magical creatures, and specially of those considered *dark*
"But not all magical creatures are inherently dark, right? They're not all out to get us people." [/b][/quote]
Well, actually, I'm wondering it myself. I'm hoping by the end of this class we will be able to tell a dark creature from a common beast...

Don't worry, Sakura Kura, we are only using logic, trust yourself and tell what do you think.

[augureycry]

*raises her hand*

"I think the past speaks enough of why we need to learn it. I mean, Grindewald nor 'The Dark Lord' (makes sarcastic quoting marks in the air with her fingers) were the first Dark Wizards, and I highly doubt they'll be the last. As long as there are people willing to submit to others in this world, there will be people who take it upon themselves to lead."

"A Dark art is any spell used with evil intent."

[Padfoot521]

Dark Arts is a type of magic that is considerd *evil*, it can be used to hurt, cause harm, and even kill others.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

She decided to add a bit to what she just said. "It's kind of like the stuff that's banned. Because it goes against laws and such.

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Dark Arts? In my opinion, Dark Arts are any sort of magic used against another person, in order to harm for one's own purposes. They are sometimes dangerous, and never used for the good of anybody. Any sort of magic that you do that brings someone else down while putting you in power over them is Dark, I think. The Dark Arts magics are conceived with the intent of evil for power."

[Sakura_kura]

"I agree with the Gurl who's not a psycio! That's great---and thanks! It very Logical to use logic! bwahaha!"

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:24 PM
*raises her hand*

"I think the past speaks enough of why we need to learn it. I mean, Grindewald nor 'The Dark Lord' (makes sarcastic quoting marks in the air with her fingers) were the first Dark Wizards, and I highly doubt they'll be the last. As long as there are people willing to submit to others in this world, there will be people who take it upon themselves to lead."

"A Dark art is any spell used with evil intent."
"Nice answer and I completely agree."

[Dawn Bloom]

"Dark arts", are considered to be magic done or used in an evil intention. Magic that is "forbidden", so to speak. Magic that only the "cursed" do.

[ashley1325]

"well isnt it really just learning protenction?" ashley says "well not just protection but being able to understand the spells we use and are taught. Its about knowing when and when not to use certian spells and how to use them. its like being one with the subject?"

[augureycry]

"Well, guys, a tickling charm, wouldn't you say that is a good spell? What if it is used to torture a person? Like tickle them for so long that they go insane?"

[TrickC]

The Dark Arts differ from other forms of magic in the intent of the wizard using it. Most magic is relatively neutral--it can be used for bad or good. Some magic, however, is evil in it's intention through and though.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

"Ya you have a good point with the Tickling charm there. I mean just a simple charm could be used in that way."

[Sakura_kura]

"That's ture, and a tickle charm can also be used for fun! I also heard that scientists would put a dripper above someone's head and the water that would drip down, even though only one drop would make the person go insane, but water's used to keep people alive, so maybe it's just the intention of the person"

[quidditch_chick]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 05:26 PM
"Well, guys, a tickling charm, wouldn't you say that is a good spell? What if it is used to torture a person? Like tickle them for so long that they go insane?"
"Good point...."

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:26 PM
"Well, guys, a tickling charm, wouldn't you say that is a good spell? What if it is used to torture a person? Like tickle them for so long that they go insane?"
Arkee laughed. "I don't think that's a Dark spell. It's not intended for torture, and probably isn't powerful enough to make someone go insane. Good idea, though!"

[TrickC]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:26 PM
"Well, guys, a tickling charm, wouldn't you say that is a good spell? What if it is used to torture a person? Like tickle them for so long that they go insane?"
thats a charm....itz differnt than Dark Arts spells

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

I've a theory as to why some kind of magics are considered Dark. *raising hand* First for they are illigal, people are frightened of whatever magic that can hurt or harm them some way or another. It may consist of ways that are violent, and even in mythology it's said that Dark Magic was the magic demons feeds of...

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

"and yes it does depend on the person who is casting the spell right?"

[That_Potter_Chick]

"I think it has to be meant to hurt people, regardless of who is casting it and what the spell is."

[augureycry]

maybe it's just the intention of the person"

"Thank you! That's exactly what I'm saying, it doesn't matter what the spell does, it's the intent behind it." Riley says enthusiastically.

[Dracnyzz]

"I believe the Dark Arts are a sort of mystery that are not exactly understood...so DADA, while teaching us about defense, can also tell us what the Dark Arts really are," Thyra commented.

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 07:29 PM
I've a theory as to why some kind of magics are considered Dark. *raising hand* First for they are illigal, people are frightened of whatever magic that can hurt or harm them some way or another. It may consist of ways that are violent, and even in mythology it's said that Dark Magic was the magic demons feeds of...
"By that reasoning any charm or spell is a Dark Art spell. You can technically use anything, you just have to be creative in the application of it. Why not just ban magic altogether, I mean it's all dangerous if used improperly."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"It odes depend on the person castinng the spell. If you had a normal student try the Curcatious Curse on someone, they'd probably do nothing. But an evil wizard who has evil intentions? That'd inflict lots of damage."

[Cassirin]

"Excellent points being raised, class... I can tell you are really thinking. Some of you have really hit the nail on the head. Augureycry, five points to Slytherin... because you are absolutely right. There is a very fine line between Dark and acceptable magic, and a lot of what makes a spell dark is intent. Of course, there are some spells that are entirely dark and have no redeeming purposes.

Anyone? Can you name one please?"

[MonkeyBJr]

Avada Kedavra, Crucio, and Imperio

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Avada Kedavra. I'd say nothing justifies it."

[That_Potter_Chick]

"Cruciatus Curse?"

[augureycry]

::Raises her hand in the air::


"The cruciatus curse."

"Proffessor, are we going to be learning any 'dark' spells this year? Not for use of course, but I think the theory behind some of them might help. Besides, we should know what we're going up against, shouldn't we?"

[Meandering]

"Crucio," said Peony. "That is despicable, and was probably cooked up by some half baked sadist.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Ban magic all together? Not everyone uses it to be bad," Ashlie argued.

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by TrickC+Mar 18 2004, 10:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TrickC @ Mar 18 2004, 10:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:26 PM
"Well, guys, a tickling charm, wouldn't you say that is a good spell? What if it is used to torture a person? Like tickle them for so long that they go insane?"
thats a charm....itz differnt than Dark Arts spells [/b][/quote]
But again, charms it's almost every spell! Even the words Charm means manipulating people and items, which isn't quite an altruist thing to do.

Peony told something of the likes too, and I completely agree. The same with morality, It's almost impossible to tell a good from a bad action, an egoistical from an altruist, etc.

The unforgivables: Imperio, Crucio, Aveda Kedabra

[TeamDuskurk]

The Cruciaus Curse

[Sakura_kura]

"crucio?"


(Sorry can't spell well)

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

The Imperious curse (sp?)

[Dawn Bloom]

Obliviate, in my opinion.

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by Hermione_loves_Ron@Mar 18 2004, 07:34 PM
"Ban magic all together? Not everyone uses it to be bad," Ashlie argued.
"Sorry, I was being sarcastic to prove a point. I didn't mean it, really!"

[Dracnyzz]

"The unforgivable curses...like Avada Kedavra...as well as other spells that Voldemort and death eaters use," Thyra said coolly, not fazed by you-know-who's name.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

"Are there really any others BESIDES the unforgiveables?"

[Meandering]

Peony raised her hand again. "I'd like to contest the Avada Kedavra. It is totally painless, and a quick way of killing, before, it was probably used for hunting deer and ensuring them a fast, easy death. But then people started getting ideas."

[quidditch_chick]

"I agree with everyone," quidditch_chick says, "The unforgiveables."

[augureycry]

"I understand that the Killing curse may have been created with evil intent, but what if it were used for good? Hear me out before you begin shouting at me. What if a person were to be hurt in a terrible accident and they were to continue living, but in incredible, deabilitating pain, would you consider it wrong to put them out of their misery?"

[Biochemkris]

BOO!

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by Biochemkris@Mar 18 2004, 07:37 PM
BOO!
"GAH! P-Professor? That wasn't nice!"

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by Dawn Bloom@Mar 18 2004, 07:34 PM
Obliviate, in my opinion.
"Well not in most cases. It can be used for good as well. For instance if muggles saw something they weren't supposed to see"

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer+Mar 18 2004, 08:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 08:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Hermione_loves_Ron@Mar 18 2004, 07:34 PM
"Ban magic all together? Not everyone uses it to be bad," Ashlie argued.
"Sorry, I was being sarcastic to prove a point. I didn't mean it, really!" [/b][/quote]
"I realize that,"Ashlie said. "But the point is, some magic IS dark and evil. But not all magic is going to be BAD."

[Dracnyzz]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 08:37 PM
"I understand that the Killing curse may have been created with evil intent, but what if it were used for good? Hear me out before you begin shouting at me. What if a person were to be hurt in a terrible accident and they were to continue living, but in incredible, deabilitating pain, would you consider it wrong to put them out of their misery?"
"Yes...perhaps, but that is rather a moral issue. Not that I don't agree..." Thyra said.

[coolant661]

Almost all the spells can be used the wrong way, Anthony said. It's not always the spell that's bad...it's how you use it.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 08:37 PM
"I understand that the Killing curse may have been created with evil intent, but what if it were used for good? Hear me out before you begin shouting at me. What if a person were to be hurt in a terrible accident and they were to continue living, but in incredible, deabilitating pain, would you consider it wrong to put them out of their misery?"
"That just relates to a Muggle problem. Should we uthenize people because they're oging to be in pain? I belive us Magic people are fortuante though, for we have Potions to relive pain."

[That_Potter_Chick]

"Professor! I have a question. Are aurors allowed to use the unforgivables?"

[Meandering]

"About the Avada Kedavra being used to end lives? That's called ethunasia, and it's still considered illegal," said Peony.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:37 PM
"I understand that the Killing curse may have been created with evil intent, but what if it were used for good? Hear me out before you begin shouting at me. What if a person were to be hurt in a terrible accident and they were to continue living, but in incredible, deabilitating pain, would you consider it wrong to put them out of their misery?"
"I suppose you have a point. It COULD have been created for such a thing but I think its unlikely. It just is too evil of a curse in my opinion. Plus it is against wizarding law."

[Dracnyzz]

Originally posted by That_Potter_Chick@Mar 18 2004, 08:40 PM
"Professor! I have a question. Are aurors allowed to use the unforgivables?"
"I don't think so," Thyra replied. "And hi Alana (?)!"

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:37 PM
"I understand that the Killing curse may have been created with evil intent, but what if it were used for good? Hear me out before you begin shouting at me. What if a person were to be hurt in a terrible accident and they were to continue living, but in incredible, deabilitating pain, would you consider it wrong to put them out of their misery?"
"The problem is that you NEED evil intentions in order to perform them. Mercy-killing is different, it's done out of, well, mercy, but certainly not evil."

[augureycry]

BOO!

::Riley looks up, unfazed. She smiles at the professor.::

"Hello Professor, looking forward to classes with you."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by coolant661@Mar 18 2004, 08:39 PM
Almost all the spells can be used the wrong way, Anthony said. It's not always the spell that's bad...it's how you use it.
"Exactly," Ashlie said. "There are the bad spells. But in the end, it comes down to who the witch/wizard is and how they're using the spell. It's the same as a knife. It can be a utensil. But in the wrong hands, it can be a weapon."

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*Jumps from seat --*

"Ahh! P- professor, what in the name --"

*raise trembling hand*

"Beside from the Unforgivables I would say that all magic is potentially harmful; those for disguise want to trick other people, those to manipulate are, well, manipuilating... Every hexes and anti-hexes are middly evil for they serve the purpose to harm, as I already said.

[coolant661]

It may so happens that you might come across to a time when you need to use that spell, Anthony implied. Not every spell is made for bad use, like i said before...It's how you use the spell, not necessarily what spell it is.

[Sakura_kura]

"I also agree that all magic depends on the witch/wizard using it!"

[Dracnyzz]

Originally posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 08:42 PM
*Jumps from seat --*

"Ahh! P- professor, what in the name --"

*raise trembling hand*

"Beside from the Unforgivables I would say that all magic is potentially harmful; those for disguise want to trick other people, those to manipulate are, well, manipuilating... Every hexes and anti-hexes are middly evil for they serve the purpose to harm, as I already said.
"You have a point!" Thyra exclaimed. "I can't believe I didn't think of that before, good job!"

[Meandering]

"I don't see how Crucio could be of any use, except to interrogators, or psychos into bondage."

[Edge]

-=He tried to raise his hand to speak, but he was drowned by the other students who are talking very rapidly, so he decided to just sit down and listen to them talk.=-

[Cassirin]

"You students really do have the nastiest habit of running away with the conversation. I can hardly get a word in edgewise... but I really enjoy your enthusiasm. MonkeyBJr, 5 points to Gryffindor for getting those Unforgivables out so quick."

"Several of you bring up a good point though... there are uses even for the Unforgivables that could be humane and non-Dark. However, the energy and will needed to fuel these spells comes from Dark intentions. While I like the suggestion that the Killing Curse could be used as a humane means to euthanasia, unfortunately, that is not so. Someone with such an intent couldn't even cause a muscle twitch in their patient.

"On the other hand, someone said Obliviate was unforgivable. There are many unfortunate uses of that spell, but it does not need malicious intent to work. Therefore, it is not a Dark spell."

[Arkee Maldemer]

"It's a good thing most spells and charms have a certain ambiguity to them. The same ones that can be used against us can be used by us to defend ourselves. Once again, it's all about who is doing them and why."

[coolant661]

Totally agree, said Anthony smiling.

[augureycry]

"Very well said."

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by Edge@Mar 18 2004, 07:43 PM
-=He tried to raise his hand to speak, but he was drowned by the other students who are talking very rapidly, so he decided to just sit down and listen to them talk.=-
:thinks to herself that sounds good unless she HAS to point out something:

[Sakura_kura]

"We do seem to be getting carried away with the conversation, like you mentioned professior, so is their another question?" Sakura asks

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by Hermione_loves_Ron@Mar 18 2004, 10:41 PM
"Exactly," Ashlie said. "There are the bad spells. But in the end, it comes down to who the witch/wizard is and how they're using the spell. It's the same as a knife. It can be a utensil. But in the wrong hands, it can be a weapon."
"But htat would be unfair! Only because you *think* the person is evil, because it's your *enemy* is enough reason to think him/her evil. But the same you are potentially the *enemy* of hundred of peoples on earth! so, like those who write history; if your side is attacked then the other are the evil ones?"

. Plus it is against wizarding law
But law is created by human being, us, we all, and we clearly see that WE don't have te slightless clue what Dark Magic is, so that's kind of hipcritical...

[dttfminb]

Why are those spells called unforgivables?

[Meandering]

Pepony raised her hand. "I'm sorry Professor, but how do you know that the DArk Curses need a dark force behind them?"

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Professor, I belive that some curses are meant to be evil. But most aren't. MOst of us aren't going to go use something like a tickling charm to drive someone insane. Wouldn't it take an awful long time?" Ashlie asked.

[Sakura_kura]

"because if you use them, your not forgiven, and punished saverly"

[augureycry]

"I think that it all depends on your point of veiw, I'm sure Hitler thought he was doing the right thing at the time..."

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Because nobody has the right to take away someone else's right to live, or at least live in peace."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by dttfminb@Mar 18 2004, 08:46 PM
Why are those spells called unforgivables?
"They do bad things. Unforgivable things. Putting a person into intolderable suffereing pain, killing them off. Being able to control their every action? Those are the worst curses in the Wizarding World. Those are the worst possible ones to use."

[dttfminb]

Oh. Are there other ways to kill someone, but to help them? Like someone else said before to help them be rid of pain?

[Dracnyzz]

Thyra nods and takes notes on what the Professor said.

[coolant661]

Originally posted by dttfminb@Mar 18 2004, 07:46 PM
Why are those spells called unforgivables?
*Raises hand*


I can answer that. First of all if one of those spells, like Crucio, was put on someone close to you...would you forgive them and let it slide, Anthony replied. I wouldn't. So the curses are not forgivable and sometimes are never appropiate.

[dttfminb]

Does anyone know who created the unforgivable curses?

[Sakura_kura]

"I'm agreeing with augureycry about her point about Hitler"

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"Well, I can understand why their unforgivables." Katie said matter-of-factly.
"The eath eaters who use them most of the time KNOW their doing wrong and continue to do it."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 08:47 PM
"I think that it all depends on your point of veiw, I'm sure Hitler thought he was doing the right thing at the time..."
"Do you though? Hitler needed someone to blame. There are people out there whom can inflict damage on a person without feeling guilty."

[augureycry]

"Do you though? Hitler needed someone to blame. There are people out there whom can inflict damage on a person without feeling guilty."

"Oh, I know that, they're called sociopaths."

"Ya well he turned out to be insane or something didn't he?" lol

"Yeah, it was actually scientifically proven by muggles. But that's what I mean, if he was insane, he either didn't know that he was doing something wrong, thought he was doing something good, or did it just because. The point is he didn't think about the reprecussions to his actions. Lets think about someone else shall we? Voldemort, he knew that what he was doing was wrong, but he felt that his reasoning justified it. He truly thought that muggles were horrible, undeserving creatures that didn't deserve to live. To him they were a disgrace to wizardry or something. It's almost as if he took their existence as a personal affront."


A dark creature: The lethifold.

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 07:47 PM
"I think that it all depends on your point of veiw, I'm sure Hitler thought he was doing the right thing at the time..."
"Ya well he turned out to be insane or something didn't he?" lol

[Sakura_kura]

"i'm not sure who made them, but it had to be a long lonnnnnnng time ago, i'm going to say hundreds of years ago"

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

*Nadia sizes the oppotunity and raise hand* I have always been curious, professor, about Red Caps, to know if we are studing them. They don’t figure as a magic creature in Newts Scamander’s book, nor do I think they would be considered inside the ‘Beings Division’, nor boggarts nor dementors are, and that’s exactly the *things* to fight against in DADA coincidentally. Are they spirits, or apparitions maybe? And what about the Lethifold, because it *is* a fantastic best, yet a simple Patronus Charm can push it away, as if being weightless.

Grindylows, Kappas, Kelpie, Lethifold are *demons* but ARE considered beast though...

[Dracnyzz]

"Well, in fact, no one knows who created any of the spells, right?" Thyra asks, looking up from her parchment. She begins to look through a book for the answer.

[Cassirin]

"I want to apologize for Professor Airlia's earlier interruption. She is feeling a little disgruntled that so many students are afraid of her, and is acting out. I hope you'll all feel comfortable enough to attend her class tomorrow.

"Now, back to the lesson... forgive me. I'm glad that so many of you keep bringing up how variable Dark Magic can be. Let's keep in mind, however, that the spells that are considered dark are called curses. They are cast with the clear intention to do harm. This is what makes them dark. I liked the analogy of the knife from before.

Let's switch gears for a moment and talk about another aspect of the Dark Arts... dark creatures. Who can name a dark creature for me?"

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"They say there's a gene that can make a person a murderer. They know it's wrong, and yet they still choose to follow that instinct," Ashlie said.

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"Even thouggh he thought he was doing right, he was wrong."

"Plus he was insain." lol

[Meandering]

"Manticore!" said Peony. "Red Caps. Dementors. Lethifold."

[Dracnyzz]

"A Dementor," Thyra said.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Cassirin@Mar 18 2004, 08:50 PM
"I want to apologize for Professor Airlia's earlier interruption. She is feeling a little disgruntled that so many students are afraid of her, and is acting out. I hope you'll all feel comfortable enough to attend her class tomorrow.

"Now, back to the lesson... forgive me. I'm glad that so many of you keep bringing up how variable Dark Magic can be. Let's keep in mind, however, that the spells that are considered dark are called curses. They are cast with the clear intention to do harm. This is what makes them dark. I liked the analogy of the knife from before.

Let's switch gears for a moment and talk about another aspect of the Dark Arts... dark creatures. Who can name a dark creature for me?"
Ashlie beamed at mention of her knife analagy. Then she thought of a Dark creature. "A boggart?" she asked.

[MonkeyBJr]

Lethifold

[Sakura_kura]

"Boggart!"


"So Sorry Hermonie_Loves_Ron! It's one of the only ones I know, sorry i repeated you! SO i'll say Thestral!? It's the horse you can only see if you've seen someone die, i hope no one took m,y answer, is that right Proffesor? I'm not very good at remembering!"

[dttfminb]

Dementor?

[~Slytherin_Heir~]

"Manticore"

[quidditch_chick]

"A Basilisk"

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"REd Caps"

[MusicGirl87]

"Is a firecrab considered a dark creature?" MI asked, after raising her hand.

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Basilisk."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Couldn't a boggart?" she asked. "I mean, they turn into your worst fear to terrorize you."

[coolant661]

Basislisk, Anthony said. I think.

[dttfminb]

Would a dementor be considered dark even though it is used for good intentions? (though taking someones soul good or bad is wrong)

[Arkee Maldemer]

"How about a Sphinx? Not the friendliest creatures, by any means."

[coolant661]

Is it possible an elf could be dark? Anthony asked.

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"What are those things called that lure muggles off cliffs on foggy nights with their lights?? Grrrr!!!" lol

[Kellarae]

"What about a chimaera?" Rowen asks

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by dttfminb@Mar 18 2004, 08:53 PM
Would a dementor be considered dark even though it is used for good intentions? (though taking someones soul good or bad is wrong)
"Well, i don't know. Perhaps there are no Dark Creatures then,"s he said. "I mean, if taking souls isn't considered exactly bad and the Ministry uses them...." She shrugged. "But maybe there are no dark creatures then."

[Dracnyzz]

"And how about Voldemort's snake, Nagini?"

[Sakura_kura]

"Dragons?"

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!@Mar 18 2004, 10:50 PM
*Nadia sizes the oppotunity and raise hand* I have always been curious, professor, about Red Caps, to know if we are studing them. They don’t figure as a magic creature in Newts Scamander’s book, nor do I think they would be considered inside the ‘Beings Division’, nor boggarts nor dementors are, and that’s exactly the *things* to fight against in DADA coincidentally. Are they spirits, or apparitions maybe? And what about the Lethifold, because it *is* a fantastic best, yet a simple Patronus Charm can push it away, as if being weightless.

Grindylows, Kappas, Kelpie, Lethifold are *demons* but ARE considered beast though...
I just did :huh:

[Arkee Maldemer]

"Ooh! Ooh! Banshees! Banshees are dangerous!"

[Meandering]

"Jack O lanterns?" said Peony. "I can't remember their real names...will O wisps?"

[coolant661]

Ghosts? Anthony asked.

[Sђỡỡting٭Sŧα]

"Dementors are considered dark... also a basilisk is....."she said hesitantly

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Dracnyzz@Mar 18 2004, 08:54 PM
"And how about Voldemort's snake, Nagini?"
"No, she was trained to be that way. It's like a pitt bull. They're good dogs, but they can be trained to be bad. Rotwilers (sp) too."

[Kellarae]

"hinkypunks"

[Sakura_kura]

"How about Manticore?"

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

*scribbles down all the creatures being names*

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by coolant661@Mar 18 2004, 08:55 PM
Ghosts? Anthony asked.
"Ghosts are dead people," Ashlie pointed out.

[Meandering]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer@Mar 18 2004, 07:55 PM
"Ooh! Ooh! Banshees! Banshees are dangerous!"
"No their not," said Peony. "They only come out to announce the death of a family memeber. They do not cause the death."

[augureycry]

"Banshees aren't dangerous- it's their cry you want to watch out for. It means a member of your family will die."

[Dracnyzz]

"And giants can be, for they often move over to the dark side."

[dttfminb]

For the ministry of magic, using a dementor seems kid of. harsh ya know? I mean these people are like the president of today they're supposed to be role models. Taking peopl's souls whether good or bad seems unacceptable to me.

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

In My last post I covered fairly good all dark creatures I believe, but I think there’s a difference between Dark Creature and only a vicious one, like the harpies; I don’t think they are dark at all

[coolant661]

Could spiders be dark? Or Devil Snares? Anthony asked enthusiastically.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Dracnyzz@Mar 18 2004, 08:58 PM
"And giants can be, for they often move over to the dark side."
"But you just contradicted yourself. "fi they go to the dark side." First they'd have to choose that. So that's not techinally being a dakr cretaure."

[Arkee Maldemer]

"What about vampires? You can't tell me blood-suckers aren't susceptible to darkness."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by coolant661@Mar 18 2004, 09:00 PM
Could spiders be dark? Or Devil Snares? Anthony asked enthusiastically.
"Spiders are just regular creatures. The Devils snare is a plant," Ashlie pointed out.

[augureycry]

"Quite frankly, spiders in general are evil in my opinion."

[Sakura_kura]

"I don't want to be rude Proffessior, but when is this class over?"

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"Ya, were basically naming off creatures we would never want to see.... like a banshee." Katie said, feeling sure of herself.
"they arent all dark, but they all are bad."

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer@Mar 18 2004, 09:01 PM
"What about vampires? You can't tell me blood-suckers aren't susceptible to darkness."
"They're people still, aren't they?" Ashlie asked.

[augureycry]

"Banshees aren't evil. It's their cry you've got to watch out for. It means a loved one is about to die."

[coolant661]

Yea so isn't Devil Snare plants human flesh eaters which make them automattically bad? Anthony inquired.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Yes, but I still think a boggart is considered Dark. Not evil, but Dark."

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"But are their any true dark creatures, Professor?

[Cassirin]

"Wonderful suggestions... I"m giving 5 points each to..." she checks her list. "Meandering, Ashlie, quidditch_chick, Nadia, and Arkee. For a total of 15 points to Ravenclaw, 5 to Slytherin, and 5 to Hufflepuff.

"For the most part, the creatures that are considered to be dark aren't just those that are considered to be dangerous. A dragon may be VERY deadly, but it isn't dark. It is deadly because that is its nature and its way of survival. It doesn't maim and kill out of evil intent. A Red Cap on the other hand, will lure an innocent bystander to his or her death not to survive, but out of malice. Do you see the distinction?

"The commonly held list of dark creatures is as follows. I suggest you write it down.
Grindylows
Kappas
Red Caps
Vampires
Werewolves
Boggarts
Dementors
Banshees
Hinkypunks
Pogrebin

[dttfminb]

Profssor? are you there? lol :hello:

[augureycry]

"I think the question to the Devil's Snare is 'can a plant have an evil intention?' After all, eating fleash, human or not, is how it survives. Same goes for vampires, if they don't drink blood they'll die."

[Sakura_kura]

"Wow proffesior, your so smart!"

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Ashlie beams. She had suddenly found her interest in the DADA. "Yes the plant can," Ashlie said. "I'm sure of it. But i dont think it has a choice."

[Sђỡỡting٭Sŧα]

She quickly picks up her quill and begins writting the dark creatures down.

[dttfminb]

That was fun! *exclaimed excitedly* Can we have another question?

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Ashlie copies down the list quickly, making sure it was accurate.

[mysticjade5]

*takes down list of creatures*

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"Pogrebins! I knew that!" Katie says to herself under her breath.

[Dracnyzz]

"...........right, werewolves." Thyra copies it down, not looking very pleased.

[Meandering]

Originally posted by Skiving Snackboxes@Mar 18 2004, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 09:01 PM)
"What about vampires? You can't tell me blood-suckers aren't susceptible to darkness."*


"They're people still, aren't they?" Ashlie asked.

"Actually I think the Ministry classifies them as non-humans, just like werewolves." said Skiving.
"And that's wrong," said Peony violently. "They're still humans. They can't help it if they've got some sort of defect in their character that makes them drink blood or morph under moonlight. It's wrong to call them Non-humans just because of that. Human is when you have feelings, intelligent feelings, not just fear, but depression, and worry. It's so stupid to classify them as Non-humans! Why doesn't the ministry just destroy them all, and that's that? Why is it just because a centaur has four legs he is classified a Non-Human? If they have human intelligence, then they're human."

[Sakura_kura]

"Coping list!" ANd then Sakura kura copies the list (lol)

[augureycry]

::raises hand::

"Professor, Should werewolves really be considered in that listing? I mean, they're just regular human being 96 percent of the time. And when they are in transformation they can't control themselves unless they are under the influence of the Wolfsbane potion, and that isn't widely available."

[Meandering]

Peony copied the list down, making sure she didn't smear the ink.

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by Meandering+Mar 18 2004, 08:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Meandering @ Mar 18 2004, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Skiving Snackboxes@Mar 18 2004, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 09:01 PM)
"What about vampires? You can't tell me blood-suckers aren't susceptible to darkness."*


"They're people still, aren't they?" Ashlie asked.

"Actually I think the Ministry classifies them as non-humans, just like werewolves." said Skiving.
"And that's wrong," said Peony violently. "They're still humans. They can't help it if they've got some sort of defect in their character that makes them drink blood or morph under moonlight. It's wrong to call them Non-humans just because of that. Human is when you have feelings, intelligent feelings, not just fear, but depression, and worry. It's so stupid to classify them as Non-humans! Why doesn't the ministry just destroy them all, and that's that? Why is it just because a centaur has four legs he is classified a Non-Human? If they have human intelligence, then they're human." [/b][/quote]
"Centaurs are non-human, I'm sure of that one. Besides, they'd shoot you full of arrows if you tried to call them human."

[Sakura_kura]

" I agree with Meandering, that was very very well put! I'm glad you know what you're talking about!"

[soocccccccccer]

starts copying down the list, then starts talking with the fellow gryffidors.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Meandering@Mar 18 2004, 09:08 PM

"And that's wrong," said Peony violently. "They're still humans. They can't help it if they've got some sort of defect in their character that makes them drink blood or morph under moonlight. It's wrong to call them Non-humans just because of that. Human is when you have feelings, intelligent feelings, not just fear, but depression, and worry. It's so stupid to classify them as Non-humans! Why doesn't the ministry just destroy them all, and that's that? Why is it just because a centaur has four legs he is classified a Non-Human? If they have human intelligence, then they're human."
"I agree, peony. But, we're not in the Ministry yet, are we? They think that a non-human is anything unlike us. Humans." She shrugged irritably.

[dttfminb]

Why isn't lethifolds on the list? Aren't they dark?

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

*laughs*

"Good point Arkee Maldemer!"

[Meandering]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer+Mar 18 2004, 08:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 08:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Meandering@Mar 18 2004, 08:08 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Skiving Snackboxes@Mar 18 2004, 08:04 PM
QUOTE (Arkee Maldemer @ Mar 18 2004, 09:01 PM)
"What about vampires? You can't tell me blood-suckers aren't susceptible to darkness."*


"They're people still, aren't they?" Ashlie asked.

"Actually I think the Ministry classifies them as non-humans, just like werewolves." said Skiving.
"And that's wrong," said Peony violently. "They're still humans. They can't help it if they've got some sort of defect in their character that makes them drink blood or morph under moonlight. It's wrong to call them Non-humans just because of that. Human is when you have feelings, intelligent feelings, not just fear, but depression, and worry. It's so stupid to classify them as Non-humans! Why doesn't the ministry just destroy them all, and that's that? Why is it just because a centaur has four legs he is classified a Non-Human? If they have human intelligence, then they're human."
"Centaurs are non-human, I'm sure of that one. Besides, they'd shoot you full of arrows if you tried to call them human." [/b][/quote]
"Precisely, they'd shoot you full of arrows if you called then human! They have such a low opinion of us," said Peony. "It's nothing to be proud of, we should be ashamed!"

[quidditch_chick]

*copies down notes while listening to everyone*

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by Cassirin@Mar 18 2004, 11:05 PM
"The commonly held list of dark creatures is as follows. I suggest you write it down.
Grindylows
Kappas
Red Caps
Vampires
Werewolves
Boggarts
Dementors
Banshees
Hinkypunks
Pogrebin
Banshees?? But they are supposed to be the messagers to tell the families when one of their members is about to die, it shoudn't be a dark beast? And werewolves? They are vicious towards humans but... sorry, I don't understand...

And the Kelpie and Lethifold??? They surely Has to have a dark definition!

[augureycry]

"I agree with Arkee, only those creatures with human intelligence that wish to be called humans should be considered human. I mean, to a centaur the human race is beneath them, it would be a mortal insult."

[Arkee Maldemer]

"This is what I think. 'Non-human' doesn't mean devoid of feelings, incapable of love, evil, or sub-intelligent. It just means not **** Sapiens. Which Centaurs are not, but Werewolves are (most of the time). I put no connotations to the word 'human' other than the species."

[MonkeyBJr]

Originally posted by dttfminb@Mar 18 2004, 09:10 PM
Why isn't lethifolds on the list? Aren't they dark?
Yeah, what's wrong with lethifolds? Don't they kill you? I thought they had a 5 star rating in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Dark doesn't necessarily mean bad or evil."

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"Its not our fault, centure are one minded, strat talking about anything they do not agree with they'll blow up on you, well, most of them anyways."

[augureycry]

"Yeah, and lethifolds are repelled by good feelings, patronuses, wouldn't that make them dark? "

[Sakura_kura]

"Maybe it's not so much as to weither or not they should be classified as Human or not, maybe it's just they should be considered 'smart' or 'intelegient' because they're obviously not actually humans, but hold human inteligence, i hope that makes sense..." Sakura says

[dttfminb]

Can we have another question please? This is fun

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Sakura_kura@Mar 18 2004, 09:14 PM
"Maybe it's not so much as to weither or not they should be classified as Human or not, maybe it's just they should be considered 'smart' or 'intelegient' because they're obviously not actually humans, but hold human inteligence, i hope that makes sense..." Sakura says
Well, werewolves have human intelligence have they not? So are they humnas or non humans then?" Ashlie pointed out.

[Arkee Maldemer]

"I think, for the most part, we are the ones who would make an evil creature out of one that is sometimes irreconcilibly different. It's our job to be diplomatic and allow the differences while understanding and accepting them. There's nothing more to do but that."

[She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Psycho!]

Originally posted by augureycry@Mar 18 2004, 11:14 PM
"Yeah, and lethifolds are repelled by good feelings, patronuses, wouldn't that make them dark? "
Yes! Thank you! that was what I tried to say!

Hermione_loves_ROn; if dark isn't the same as evil, what's then?

[Wayfarer]

"According to JK Rowling werewolves and centunar are half humans. That old Umbridge lady tried to make all half human register. It's in the history Order of the Phoenix."

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"exactly.."

*Katie finishes taking notes and waits for a new topic quietly.*

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by Arkee Maldemer@Mar 18 2004, 09:16 PM
"I think, for the most part, we are the ones who would make an evil creature out of one that is sometimes irreconcilibly different. It's our job to be diplomatic and allow the differences while understanding and accepting them. There's nothing more to do but that."
"Such as with my previous pitt bull analagy."

[Miss Radcliffe the Pirate]

Continues taking notes.

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

dark is worse than evil.

[Sakura_kura]

"Well I was reffering to Centars. But I think Werewolfs should be considered human, because they don't want to be werewolves, obviously. And they are actual humans most of the time. They just have a 'defect' like if someone lost there arm they'd have a 'defect' but they'd still be human"

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

Originally posted by FnG_rawkMYxworld@Mar 18 2004, 09:18 PM
dark is worse than evil.
"Says who? Dark just contains the potential to do bad. Evil is someone who does bad things without guilt, mercilessly.

[Arkee Maldemer]

Originally posted by Hermione_loves_Ron+Mar 18 2004, 08:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hermione_loves_Ron @ Mar 18 2004, 08:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Arkee Maldemer@Mar 18 2004, 09:16 PM
"I think, for the most part, we are the ones who would make an evil creature out of one that is sometimes irreconcilibly different. It's our job to be diplomatic and allow the differences while understanding and accepting them. There's nothing more to do but that."
"Such as with my previous pitt bull analagy." [/b][/quote]
"Well, no, I meant that misunderstanding is the evil we commit to these creatures, we don't actually force them into being what we want them to be."

[augureycry]

"I think, for the most part, we are the ones who would make an evil creature

"Yeah, I mean, as humans we often consider ourselves above other species. I mean, we will actually tell you that we are the smartest beings on the planet. We automatically consider that our beliefs about a creature should go unquestioned, that if it attacks us it is dark, when most of the time that cresture is merely doing what it considers instinct."

[Sakura_kura]

"Thats true I agree with "Hermonie_Loves_Ron"

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

"But the fact still remains that a good part of their life is spent as an animal." Katie says.
"I'm not calling them dark or evil, Im just saying that they shouldnt be classified as pure human."

[TrickC]

Originally posted by Biochemkris@Mar 18 2004, 07:37 PM
BOO!
huh? what are you doing here professor?

[Cassirin]

"Please... let's not get off topic. I'm hearing lots of good questions, and I wish that our class wasn't moving so quickly that I am not able to get to them before we veer off onto another interesting tangent. I think you're beginning to get the picture about what I meant when I said there is a very fine line between Dark and acceptable.

"As for the issue of vampires and werewolves, no, I do NOT think that they are dark all the time. But there is a dark magic that works within them at certain times. A werewolf would be the first to tell you that there is an intent to harm and spread the "disease" that comes out on the full moon. They are not intrinsically Dark, but the magic is there. The Ministry chooses to classify them as Dark... who am I to argue?" The professor shrugged good naturedly.

"I realize also that there are creatures not on the list that you believe should be there. This really is a better question to be bringing to Professor Hendrik in your Care of Magical Creatures class... what is it in their survival needs that might cause them to act in a way that brings harm to Muggles and wizards?

"Now... I'd like to give you your homework assignment. If you have any questions that went unanswered, I will be around for a while after class, and I would love to discuss with you. We had a very short class today, but I feel that we covered what was needed. Things should slow down a bit for our next classes.

"By next class, I want you to owl me (email me ONLY, no PMs) with a paragraph about what you know already about the Dark Arts. A paragraph should have between 8 to 12 sentences. I would also like any topics or concepts you would like covered in one of our classes.

"Class dismissed."

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

lol!

[dttfminb]

I think it would be interesting to have a conversation with a centaur, until it starts to dislike me.

[quidditch_chick]

"Professor? Isn't there a creature called Nundu? Isn't it rather dark and/or evil? Or is it one of those that may seem evil, but its not?"

[Sakura_kura]

"Well now that i hear all these opinions, I'm starting to think of somthing else. Maybe each individual should choose how they want to be clasiffied, I mean it's their body, and there problem, so shouldn't it be their moral choice?"

[TrickC]

since class is over i jsut want to say i love your avatar professor!

[FnG_rawkMYxworld]

(have you posted you email yet professor?)

[Wayfarer]

A werewolf is suffering from an illness that isn't Dark. Werewolves, I think are included in the study of DADA mainly because other wizards don't want to become one. It's an infection, in some way just like a cold but of that can't cured at this moment. The Wolfbane potion has gone a long way into improving the lives of werewolves.

[Hermione_loves_Ron]

"Everything has the potential to be evil," Ashlie said to them all. "You can force anything to be evil, it all depends on how you use it. Spells. Creatures. People. We all can be good or evil. But we with intelligence must also choose."

[Miss Radcliffe the Pirate]

Gets up, having learned alot this lesson. "Thank you professor, see you next class." Chelsea walks out the door and leaves.

[dttfminb]

I think one of the problems we have with centaurs is that we, humans, are sometimes to full of ourselves to be told we are wrong by a creature not of our species. Some people take it as an insult; so then they dislike the centaurs and might say something rude to them.

[Sakura_kura]

Proffessor, is it true we will get points for handing in homework? and do you know when the next class will be? is it weekly? because i can't get here every night so if i could know a while a head...."