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*Zoe* · 09-11-2017, 05:24 AM

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This comment however is something that I couldn't just leave like this. Like I said in the beginning i can only assume that you've thought about your wording beforehand and therefore have CHOSEN to put the word "legitimate" in there. This is not your place. This implies that their are reasons why people haven't been rping on site that are not legitimate. Again, this is not your place to judge. These reasons may range from real life obligations (like Carla has mentioned) to simply...not feeling like rping. This is still a valid reason. And the fact that you felt the need to add "legitimate" means that you've thought of reasons that you deem are not "legitimate". AGAIN, this is not your place.

I understand that it might be frustrating for staffers (both in school and elsewhere around the site) if they put a lot of effort into something and then to have activity be low/non-existent. I understand this 100%. Which is why I also understand if those in charge of these activities might decide that it's not worth the effort anymore (such as Dueling etc.). This might be sad and disappointing for those who were STILL playing/enjoyed being active but I completely understand and it's the staffer's choice to organize something or stop organizing it. I also appreciate the work staffers put into plots/lessons/other activities/etc. I do. But making people feel bad for not posting is NOT the way to go. There are multiple reasons why people aren't as active on site as they used to be. And it's nobody's place to judge why someone else is not playing on site.

So please, refrain from differentiating between "legitimate" and not legitimate reasons why someone isn't rping on site. That is up to each and everyone of us to decide and while those reasons might be frustrating for other people they are still legitimate. This shouldn't be an obligation. This should be fun. And right now, with implications (and I would almost call it guilt-tripping occasionally) such as this, it is simply not.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I totally understand what you are saying and value your contribution to this discussion. And, because of what was said, I would like to clarify and clear a few things up.

In no way was I implying that I had made a choice about what was or was not a valid reason for not posting or participating -- I have not done so, nor will I. Using "legitimate" probably wasn't the best choice of wordage, but the implications made about me because of that usage are not accurate. From my perspective, if you have a reason for not posting/participating/whatever, no matter what it is, it is legitimate to me. So, please do not assume I've made a decision about what is/isn't legitimate when I most certainly have not. I am not here to judge the reasons why people post/don't post on SS. It also is not my goal to make people feel bad about not posting or guilt-trip anyone. Everyone has a reason for not posting today, tomorrow, a month from now, etc., whether it comes down to a RL matter, IC explanation, etc.

I am, though, trying to relay the message that some things do end up being cut (such as Duelling Club, since you highlighted that one -- if anyone is curious as to why that is on hold at the moment, simply look at how interest was when it was started terms ago and last term) because of a lack of posts and/or interest -- this is a RP experience that, at the end of the day, does rely on that while also balancing it out with the element of fun. We simply cannot keep on running all of the extra things if interest in it is not there. Believe me: the staff greatly enjoys going above and beyond and working with what we get. However, when the turnout we hope for isn't there, it sometimes can make certain things difficult to run and leaves us sometimes wondering if the work we put into it was even worth the effort and time. Call it guilt-tripping if you want, but that is the reality for us on our end. It is valid for us to make cuts/put things on a temporary hold. It allows us to reflect on what isn't working as desired/think of ways to trouble-shoot/improve while we put time and effort toward something else (our plots, lessons, and general interactions). As I said, the things that have been/end up being cut doesn't mean it will be gone forever; we're just waiting interest in certain extras to return again and/or are discussing/finding solutions before we give what was cut another try.

09-11-2017, 05:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Zoe **DMAC & DMLE** Runespoor Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wonderland Posts: 61,320 Hogwarts RPG Name: Logan Paton Gryffindor Seventh Year Hogwarts RPG Name: Gillyweed Beery Slytherin Third Year Ministry RPG Name: Tallulah Gamp Accidents & Catastrophes Ministry RPG Name: Franklin Paton Law Enforcement x8 x8	Bathes in Maple Syrup \| Dancing Lobster \| Mrs. Charlie Weasley \| Seneca's Beard \| That's So Fetch Quote: This comment however is something that I couldn't just leave like this. Like I said in the beginning i can only assume that you've thought about your wording beforehand and therefore have CHOSEN to put the word "legitimate" in there. This is not your place. This implies that their are reasons why people haven't been rping on site that are not legitimate. Again, this is not your place to judge. These reasons may range from real life obligations (like Carla has mentioned) to simply...not feeling like rping. This is still a valid reason. And the fact that you felt the need to add "legitimate" means that you've thought of reasons that you deem are not "legitimate". AGAIN, this is not your place. I understand that it might be frustrating for staffers (both in school and elsewhere around the site) if they put a lot of effort into something and then to have activity be low/non-existent. I understand this 100%. Which is why I also understand if those in charge of these activities might decide that it's not worth the effort anymore (such as Dueling etc.). This might be sad and disappointing for those who were STILL playing/enjoyed being active but I completely understand and it's the staffer's choice to organize something or stop organizing it. I also appreciate the work staffers put into plots/lessons/other activities/etc. I do. But making people feel bad for not posting is NOT the way to go. There are multiple reasons why people aren't as active on site as they used to be. And it's nobody's place to judge why someone else is not playing on site. So please, refrain from differentiating between "legitimate" and not legitimate reasons why someone isn't rping on site. That is up to each and everyone of us to decide and while those reasons might be frustrating for other people they are still legitimate. This shouldn't be an obligation. This should be fun. And right now, with implications (and I would almost call it guilt-tripping occasionally) such as this, it is simply not. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I totally understand what you are saying and value your contribution to this discussion. And, because of what was said, I would like to clarify and clear a few things up. In no way was I implying that I had made a choice about what was or was not a valid reason for not posting or participating -- I have not done so, nor will I. Using "legitimate" probably wasn't the best choice of wordage, but the implications made about me because of that usage are not accurate. From my perspective, if you have a reason for not posting/participating/whatever, no matter what it is, it is legitimate to me. So, please do not assume I've made a decision about what is/isn't legitimate when I most certainly have not. I am not here to judge the reasons why people post/don't post on SS. It also is not my goal to make people feel bad about not posting or guilt-trip anyone. Everyone has a reason for not posting today, tomorrow, a month from now, etc., whether it comes down to a RL matter, IC explanation, etc. I am, though, trying to relay the message that some things do end up being cut (such as Duelling Club, since you highlighted that one -- if anyone is curious as to why that is on hold at the moment, simply look at how interest was when it was started terms ago and last term) because of a lack of posts and/or interest -- this is a RP experience that, at the end of the day, does rely on that while also balancing it out with the element of fun. We simply cannot keep on running all of the extra things if interest in it is not there. Believe me: the staff greatly enjoys going above and beyond and working with what we get. However, when the turnout we hope for isn't there, it sometimes can make certain things difficult to run and leaves us sometimes wondering if the work we put into it was even worth the effort and time. Call it guilt-tripping if you want, but that is the reality for us on our end. It is valid for us to make cuts/put things on a temporary hold. It allows us to reflect on what isn't working as desired/think of ways to trouble-shoot/improve while we put time and effort toward something else (our plots, lessons, and general interactions). As I said, the things that have been/end up being cut doesn't mean it will be gone forever; we're just waiting interest in certain extras to return again and/or are discussing/finding solutions before we give what was cut another try. __________________ Last edited by Zoe; 09-11-2017 at 05:34 AM.