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The Half-Blood Prince Harry's 6th year at Hogwarts - who is the Prince?

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Old 07-17-2005, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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WHO/WHAT is R.A.B? Theories anyone?

(sorry for the short intro's, I just wanna start up topics for other people to discuss, while the permissions for this forum aren't working very well).
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it's Regulas A Black. I can't think of anyone else it could be.
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I think it's Regulas A Black. I can't think of anyone else it could be.
Plausable. But how did he find out? I can see this being a huge mistery for book 7. I sat there for a full few minutes trying to think of someone with those initials and couldn't think of anyone at all.

I'll have to reread the series and take note of everyone's names lol (why did it take me so long to do this?) *argh*
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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it could be:

Black - Sirius' brother
Bones - didn't a lot of them get killed?
Borgin or Burkes
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:47 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well... I'll start with the Obvious. Regulus Black

Of course we have no middle name for Regulus. We have no First or middle mane for Borgin Yet. Some have mentioned Burke, but his first name is Caractucus (HBP CE Pg 261 in Ch 13)

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Old 07-17-2005, 02:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'll have to reread the series and take note of everyone's names lol (why did it take me so long to do this?) *argh*
http://www.harrypotterfacts.com/index.htm

Click on Names - they are all there, except HBP additions

the only R * B is Regulus black, as of OOTP. Burke can be ruled out and Binns, Bole and Borgin are the only other options who are both old enough and have no recorded first name.

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Regulas was a Death Eater wasn't he so he could've found out about the Horcruxes. Binns .. that would be quite interesting if it was.
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Old 07-17-2005, 02:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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it could just be someone totally new

we're not gonna find out till the next book...wonder when that'll be out? i think the earliest we'll see it would be Xmas 2006
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Well i think its regulus cos theres a lot mentioned him.....
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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My money's on Regelus Black-

I know I will be dead long before you read this...

I face death in the hope that when you meet your match, you will be mortal once more...

Regelus fits because he turned against the Death Eaters- Sirius believed it was because he'd found out what he'd be made to do, but could it be that Regelus discovered the horcruxes, recognised how evil they were and sought to destroy them?
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sorry, folks we're barking up the wrong tree thinking Regulus Black might still be living. Reason why you ask? The answer is simple really, Kreacher. Kreacher is magically bound to the Black Family and he would have never obeyed Harry, if Regulus was living.
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It probably is a new character because Voldy killed Regulaus. In OotP (US) pg 112 it says:
"He was killed by an Auror?" Harry tentatively.
"Oh no," said Sirius. "No, he was murdered by Voldemort."
So Regulas is dead, and the reason is that he tried to leave, not that he killed one of Voldy's Horcruxes.
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Old 07-17-2005, 03:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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We don't know for sure that Regelus was killed for running off. Nor that the reason he ran off was not the horcrux. ALso, wether he was killed by voldemort is a grey area. SO all we know is that he ran off and got killed within days.

He always seemed to my mind anyway, a rather pathetic character. Certainly not one who could find something it took Dumbledore and his particular magic to find.l He doesn't seem to fit. BUt he's the only one I can think of at the minute. Besides, all we have so far is Sirius' information, and Sirius didn't like his little brother much.
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I think it's Regulas A Black. I can't think of anyone else it could be.
That is my best guess too (see the general discussion thread) but we do not know if Regulus has a middel name...
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ALso, wether he was killed by voldemort is a grey area..

Sirius said that he was killed by Death Eaters on Voldemorts orders.

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Besides, all we have so far is Sirius' information
And how did Sirius get this information? We can't believe to be fully true...
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A very imprtant thing... the note:

To the Dark Lord
I know I will be dead long before you read this

but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret.
I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match,
you will be mortal once more.
R.A.B.
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:11 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Regulus makes sense. Maybe he was working as a double agent...? *shrugs* He could have found out about the Horcruxes and that's why he was killed. But if that's the case then wouldn't Voldemort have killed him himself...?

It could also be some one in the Bones family. That was a big family and LOTS of them were killed. It would makes sense for one of them to want to get rid of Voldemort.
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I was having an AIM conversation with my friend who'd just finished the book, and we were talking about R.A.B. I went over to the HP-Lexicon and I came up with the theory of Regulus thinking I was being oh-so-clever... but I guess I'm just a bit late.

Anyway, until we learn his middle name it's pure speculation... but I'm putting my money on Regulus. Otherwise, what was the point of spending so much time on Sirius' family tree - it had no importance in Book 6. He could have done it before his death, and it might even have been the reason why he was killed. On the Lexicon there is only one other character that has been introduced with RB as initials, and it's someone minor. I just feel that the last book would be too late to introduce a new character.
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I have to agree with everyone here that Regulus Black was one of the first I came up with, as well as Amelia Bones (perhaps she uses her middle name as her first?). However, I can not think of anyone we have been introduced to as of yet in the books who we know to be strongly opposed to Voldemort with those innitials
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I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match,

you will be mortal once more.


I am almost POSITIVE that it's Regulus, but what I don't understand, is that Hermione mentioned twards the end of the book that it had to be a death eater (which would make regulus an obviouse choice) so why would a death eater distroy it? thus making him less immortal, but say at the end, i hope you will be mortal once more.

OOOH wait, does that mean that regulus or whomever wrote it meant voldemort was immortal, and by distroying it, he wanted him to become mortal, thus able to die?
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Well, for me, Regulus is the obvious choice. We know he was killed by Voldemort after trying to leave the Death Eaters. He probably found out about the Horcruxes before he left, and he tried to do everything to destroy them once he found out really how dangerous Voldemort really was. Obviosly, Voldemort wasn't too pleased..
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Well like everyone else the first person that came to my head was indead Regulus Black but now Im not really that sure. Someone pointed out the kreacher thing and I suppose that could be evidence that Regulus is dead. But everyone thinks he is dead, so Kreacher must also believe he is dead. I mean does a house elf know if their master is dead or not. Also Lupin happened to bring him up again at christmas, saying that it took the death eaters days to track him down. However if it took them days, it seems possible that he wanted himself to be easily captured, perhaps that was not the real him that was killed. Perhaps a decoy. Who knows. So I think Regulus Black could be a possiblity.
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When I read the initials R.A.B in the book I immediantly thought Regulus Black.

Going on the theory that most people think, that people live up to their names, Regulus did indeed play for the good side.

Regulus was a Roman General during the Punic War who played for the good side, was captured by the bad side, forced into the bad sides work and to work as a bad general. After he gained trust the he really was bad the Bad commander sent Regulus off to Rome again to negotiate the peace deals, but instead of negotiate he warned the good side of what the bad side was up to, in return he was killed.

So in theory;
Regulus Black was a good player, despite the Blacks long line of Dark Arts, he like his brother, enrolled on the good side. How ever Regulus was always thrown back and forth between good an evil. Such as his house placement. He was put in Slytherin, although Regulus means Heart of the Lion . After Hogwarts Regulus might of enrolled in the Order and sent to be a Spy by Voldermort. Voldermort in return told him to go to Lily and James house to negotiate the handing over of Harry. Instead Regulus could of warned Lily and James what he was up to and then was killed.

Besides, why couldnt RAB be Regulus? Dead people can play important roles as well.

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I think that its regulus because it all fits. They refered to Voldemort as the dark lord and only his death eaters do that so whoever RAB is, they were most likley a death eater. It also says that they would be dead long before voldemort found the horcrux. So I'm guessing he destroyed the horcrux and then backed out of whatever else voldemort wanted him to do getting him killed. I don't think he was killed because Voldemort found the horcrux because then i doubt the note would still be there so he must have done something else to get voldemort to kill him.

Another thing is whoever RAB is adressed the letter to voldemort, so that means they thought Voldemort would find it sometime after the person was dead.
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every fan site has it as being Sirius's brother but i aint sure... imean he is dead and as far as we are a ware it isnt RAB just RB..

It coudl be to people like R and B
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