I actually think that his death was fake but no!!!!!!!! He's gone. I'm crying!!!!!!!!!!

Who's going to be the next one?

Wow. When I read that Dumbledore had died, I had to go back and re-read the section (through my tears) to make sure I wasn’t delusional. I was shocked that this happened! Talk about a plot twist, and a very sad one at that. I guess the most shocking thing (to me), even more so then Dumbledore’s death, was that it was Snape who killed him. I knew when he made that vow there would be trouble, but to be honest with you, I thought he was going to try to kill Harry! I’m sad that Dumbledore trusted Snape, or this all probably wouldn’t have happened.

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“Could Dumbledore have a horcrux?”

I guess anything is possible! But I don’t think he would, that would mean killing someone to get it. And does Dumbledore really seem like the type to do that? I don’t think, judging by the quote Rovie showed us, that he really wanted to life ‘forever’ anyway.

I wonder if Dumbledore was killed because Harry relied on him so much and J.K.Rowling wanted him to start making more choices for himself?

Dumbledore:
I prepared myself for him dieing. Somehow, I knew it was going to happen. I'm extremely sad. Every time Harry gets close to an adult, the adult dies.. And Harry had to watch! Ugh.
*raises glass* To the memory of Albus Dumbledore, greatest wizard of his age!

-Monika

Dumbledore knew he was going to die and he wanted Snape to do it. He said please because he didn't want Snape to lose his resolve. He paralyzed Harry because he knew Harry would interfere. He knew it would be harder to get through to Draco in Harry's presence because of the enmity between them. Snape has had every chance there is to kill Harry or bring Harry to Voldemort and he never has. He lifts the DE's curse off Harry as he is escaping and keeps the Death Eaters from harming him.

There is much more to Snape than meets the eye. Harry is blinded by the way Snape acts toward him and I would be too if I was in Harry's shoes. Snape is not pleasant but that doesn't mean he's evil. He is the perfect spy because he is a good actor and can control his emotions.

Harry himself said that his whole life, adults have been putting themselves between him and danger and it had to end sometime. Dumbledore is the last. Now Harry has to be a man.

It will be very sad without Dumbledore around.

For some reason, the death of Dumbledore didn't affect me that much, so now I feel like I should be way more sensitive after reading everyone else's posts.
I guess I really wasn't that surprised he died...I mean, after a certain point in the book, I was just kind of like, "Okay, so it's either going to be Draco or Dumbledore that dies...I really hope it isn't Draco." Because Draco's my favorite character. It was a little weird with Snape being the one killing him...I mean, I never really believed Dumbledore about Snape redeeming himself and changing, I still figured he was at least a tad bit evil. But anyway, his death didn't surprise me, but Snape being his killer kind of made me stop for a minute and go, "Wait, what just happened?"

For some reason, the death of Dumbledore didn't affect me that much, so now I feel like I should be way more sensitive after reading everyone else's posts.
I guess I really wasn't that surprised he died...I mean, after a certain point in the book, I was just kind of like, "Okay, so it's either going to be Draco or Dumbledore that dies...I really hope it isn't Draco." Because Draco's my favorite character. It was a little weird with Snape being the one killing him...I mean, I never really believed Dumbledore about Snape redeeming himself and changing, I still figured he was at least a tad bit evil. But anyway, his death didn't surprise me, but Snape being his killer kind of made me stop for a minute and go, "Wait, what just happened?"

I am soo depressed. I HATE SNAPE!!! I didn't think he would kill Dumbledore I thought it would all turn around on us and then he would save Dumbledore. But that didn't happen and now it's soo sad. They don't really have a person to look up to that is as powerful as You-Know-Who. All they have to look up to now is the new minister and I don't know what to think about him. This is very sad and nowthey might close Hogwarts forever because of Dumbledore dieing and what happened. Anyways it was very very very sad. I think it was sadder than when sirius died in OOTP.

It had to happen! I new it was Dumbledore but I was so Sad!!

I have to wonder if Snape was fulfilliing both Dumbledore and Narcissa's unbreakable vow! Think about it. If Snape didn't kill Dumbledore then Draco would have been killed. Dumbledore loved his kids! All of them even the mess-up ones! So maybe Dumbledore told Snape that if it comes down to it...either my life or the life of one of the kids then kill me!

All I know for sure is that I cried my eyes out!!!

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i really think that dumbledore was not begging for his life in those last few seconds; he had to of been begging for severus to kill him! i cannot imagine the powerful dumbledore of the first five books begging for his life. his death must of served some greater purpose, such as making it possible for snape to continue to spy on voldemort, and possibly come back in the last book to help harry. i really want harry to come back to hogwarts next term, and not leave as he told ron and hermione. the last book would not be the same without hogwarts.


I totally agree with this!!! Actually, I have proof of what I am trying to say!!...If you all turn to you HBP Book to page 572... When Harry is forcing the seventh goblet of potion into Dumbledores mouth, Dumbledore tells him, "Don't hurt them, don't hurt them, please, please, it's my fault, hurt me instead..." That isn't just any saying...I mean it happened to be said on the *::Cough cough::* SEVENTH glass, and I do believe Dumbledore is talking about saving Harry and Malfoy...because what else would he be talking about? Before hand, Dumbledore was just saying like, "No, no, no, no, I can't,..." And things like that, I dunno...

Maybe I am going insane, hopeing for an answer to Dumbledores death!!

Has anyone wondered if DD faked his death? He said all those things to Draco about disappearing and making it look like Draco was gone so that he'd be safe. Might DD have set up a similar plot to hide himself? If Snape was in on it, it would put him in a better position to betray Voldemort later.

Looking for ways to redeem Snape and bring back Albus...
Laura

I didn't see it cominggggggggggggggggggggg!!!!! I swear, I could see Ginny but not HIM! And since Rowling said it was going to be one of Harry's fans... lol, guess my brain didn't make the connection^^

But man, what a fantastic way to end it. So controversial, the all-powerful figure who would protect all dissapears. I'm the only one getting chills? It's the ideal way of maturity indeed, when you don't feel anymore that you are protected by invisible, always-there pathernal arms. But what a way to make it. And we learned a lot from Dumbledore than we ever learned of Harry or some other character, next to Draco and Snape as the other main figures. In that sense, this book ruled over and over.

And do you remeber Rowling said there was more than one death *raise eyebrow* Fawkes! Of course, there you had two people close to Harry! *shakes head* This woman Rowling... *goes off muttering*

After going through and reading a lot of the posts in this thread I figured I would probably never finish so I decided to just add my 2 cents.

OMG...I was completely shocked. I had a huge feeling DD was to die. Especially because I remember somebody saying that Dumbledore had to die before Harry battled Voldemort. So I knew it was to be expected. I just didn't know it would hit me so hard. I mean when they got to the cave and that potion I began to get really sad and emotional and thought he was going to die. Even after reaching Hogsmeade I wanted to believe that he'd get help but I still had a strong feeling he wouldn't make it. As soon as DD said "Severus...please" I began to cry soooo much. I don't think I've ever cried so much while reading a book maybe even in my life. And I've never hated Snape so much. I know many think there is more to him but I don't know...(maybe it's because I just finished the book and it's all fresh to me but still).

Aragog didn't really bother me. I really don't like spiders and after he practically almost killed Harry and Ron I wasn't very happy about him. But I felt really bad for Hagrid. I mean Aragog was like his best friend. I was also sad when I though Fang woulddn't have made it out of the cabin, but thankfully he did.

I'm not exactly sure if I feel that Snape is still on our side. I mean when I first read chapter 2 I was furious. I was wondering how could DD trust him but then I felt maybe just maybe he's pretending. After Snape murdered DD however I felt there is no way he could still have been pretending. There was no doubt in my mind that Snape had been a fake all along. Maybe DD was telling him to kill him, maybe Snape really is on our side. I don't know.....only time and book seven will tell.

tania*

That makes a lot of sense, and it's a lot more comforting to me to think that Dumbledore knew it was going to happen and wanted it to, instead of trusting Snape to help him and then being just plain murdered. I guess that if Harry knew so, then he'd at least feel better knowing that DD knew he wasn't being betrayed...

Also, I'm extremely sad that Fawkes died, but at least he's still w/ DD, where he'll always belong. Too bad, tho, coz Fawkes was a powerful ally for Harry in some ways. *shrug*

When I read that part, my heart literally stopped! I just couldn't believe it... but like I said before, I know there are some who believes that DD faked his death and is still alive, well as much as I want that, it's very hard to see any loophole out of having a wand being directly pointed at him and being hit w/ such a curse...

I ralized that my second time through the book. I was rather sad that Fawkes is gone. I didn't know that he could really die.

But like you said, Dumbledore's death was rather meant to be. I've been saying it since it happened. It rather NEEDED to happen.

i suspected that he would be the one to go , i suppose that he had to die to urge harry on to start his journy towards completing the prophesy. though was it not for his death then the next book would not be the ending of the series. though i wish dumbledore wasn't dead i know that there was no stopping him from dieing, its just how the stories gotta go.

may Albus Dumbledore stay alive in the memorys of those most loyal to him

may he rest in piece

I predicted Dumbledore's death, I figured he'd be gone in either the 6th or 7th book. I was sad, of course, and I did cry. I, like many other people, also felt betrayed by Snape. I didn't expect him to serve the final blow (even during chapter two when he was working with Narcissa and Bellatrix).

I'm not convinced, however, that Snape's intentions were fully evil. Dumbledore has always been kind to Snape, and I'm sure Snape has always appreciated Dumbledore's kindness. I agree with those who say that Snape might have done it because Dumbledore didn't want Draco to die, or there was some sort of understanding before anything happened. Perhaps... that if it were a choice between Dumbledore or a Hogwarts student dying, and Snape had to make the choice to save one, he'd have to sacrifice Dumbledore or something (remember when Dumbledore and Harry were outside the cave and Dumbledore said "even if I die you have to save yourself" or something? Maybe he said something like that to Snape, too). It just doesn't make sense that Snape killed Dumbledore maliciously. There had to be a reason, and I'm inclined to believe it wasn't a bad one.

So, I'm not a Snape fangirl or anything, but I'm still not convinced that he's evil. I hope my suspicions will be confirmed in the final book (which I hope to be a HUGE book - there's still so many gaps in the story!) If it does turn out that Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him, though, I hope Harry finds that out before he attempts to kill Snape himself, because we all know that Harry will probably never forgive Snape.

And ouch, to those who are saying you hate J.K. Rowling. It's her characters and her story, after all, she can do what she pleases to them (that's not meant to sound malicious, by the way). And it's not like she does it at leisure -- she actually DID cry when she killed off Sirius. I know the rest of us are sad and disappointed, but only if we feel something can we imagine what the characters who survived in the book are going through.

Well, just my opinions.

Dumbledore's death was a shock, obviously, but also an obvious thing. He's sort of Harry's net, and he had to go for Harry to face Voldemort on his own. But I was expecting more death's than just Dumbledore's. I think I cried in the last few chapters... *sigh*

oh gawd i burst out crying! i mean we gto to no adn love dumbledores character so well.. and then to die so quickly wen that evil traitoress snape killed him.. i was horrified!! but i guess wen i finished i could see why she did kill him off... it makes him more determined to set out after voldemort and his death eaters.. since eveeryone he has been close to has eneded up dying in the battle....
so even though i cans ee why she killed him off.. im not a happy chappy.. i loved dumble dore and he died so suddenly... boo hoo

ive been thinking about something. theres that portrait of dumbledore hanging in the headmasters office and i was thinking that maybe that his portrait could talk to themlike the previous headmasters talk to them. and tell harry things that he thinks he needs to know about voldemort.
just a theory. do you think dumbledore had horcruxes

That's what I was thinking. Harry would have to return to Hogwarts at some point. The portrait of Dumbledore will still be there. Still there to tell Harry things...

No. You had to murder people to get them.

oh yah but he could have killed a DE couldnt he have?

i knew he would die but i am so sad!!!

I'm sure he has, but no. Firstly, you'd have to want to. Secondly, you end up with a very odd life. Or at least that's what I gathered. And thirdly, and this is only imo, but I think you'd have to committ cold blooded murders.

Besides, as Harry said, once Dumbledore was dead, the spell on Harry stopped taking hold. Dumbledore's dead with nothing to resurect him.

First off, I doubt Dumbledore has a horcrux. Every description given of them listed them as "The most evil of evils" because you had to murder to split your soul. I doubt Dumbledore will return through a horcrux.

However, let's not forget that Dumbledore was Dumbledore, either. Fawkes is gone.. Or is he? He's a Phoenix. Always reborn from the ashes after death. So who's to say that their link won't offer an opportunity for Dumbledore to return without a Horcrux? He's the only wizard known to have bonded with a Phoenix instead of an owl, so there's no way to say for sure.

Second, I'm witholding judgment on Snape. Why? Because Dumbledore *did* trust him. What it really boils down to is, do you trust Dumbledore? I do. He had a very strong reason why he trusted Snape. While Dumbledore made mistakes before, this would have to be a very large, sloppy mistake in the life of a wizard who made few at all. Personally, if there was a way for Dumbledore to return, say through Fawkes as I mentioned above, and Snape knew about it, this was a perfect way to retain Snape's cover and still have things work out.

I just personally don't believe Dumbledore could be so blind as to have Snape actually be a real traitor under his nose.

Don't get me wrong. I don't like Snape. At all. But this is more an issue of trust than liking someone.

well sharv I have to agree with you. After all, Dumbeldore was *cries as i write about him in past tense* one of the most powerful wizards alive & there is no way he was just an idiotic fool who trusted snape without a very good cause. dumbeldore & snape are very good at occulmancy (sp) & they couldn't afford to tell anyone there plan incase voldermort read their minds. it wasn't the fact that dumbeldore didn't want to tell, it's just that snape was safer with just him & dumbledore knowing.

FYI, i still hate snape for doing what he did.