My opinion is that I was wrong.I thought SLytherin was the worst house in Hogwarts and I never want to read or even RP in Slytheirn.But after being sorted into Slytherin,my opinion chaged.It's not a bad ouse,just sometimes bad people give it a bad name.And after being sorted into Slytherin,my opinon on the Slytheinr house int he book changed,too.

SLYTHERN RULES!!!!

Yes, I thought that would come. You know, when the Gryffindors and Ravenclaws and Hufflepuffs stood up to shield Harry, I thought there would be a couple of Slytherin as well. Only it didn't happen. IT would have been a more powerful message for unity than the last part where Harry tells his son "Then Slytherin House will have gained an excellent student". I thought that right after Mcgonagall said,"The time has come for Slytherin House to choose it's loyalties", some of them would choose Hogwarts over themselves. I guess the main thing against that is the fact that Slytherin's are, above all, self-serving. If Voldemort's winning, then support him. If its Harry, support him. They are always looking out for their best interests, and not for a cause.
The point is, no house is "most magical". They're all equals. Also, Snape was an amazing brave person and I love him. But, his allegiance began for a selfish reason: he didn;t want Lily killed. He was even okay with Harry being killed, so long as Lily lived. That later changed, and Snape became unselfishly brave and that's why DD implied that he could have been in Gryffindor.

Totally agree^^ I never hated Slytherin and proud of being one here. It's always been my fav. But seriously, JK should've given them some character! They are not that bad! In fact, we see Draco hesitates between protecting Harry and Voldemort's -probably death- penalties when the trio was captured. And Snape is a total different case as well. They aren't bad, just they are labelled. I'm sure someone from Slytherin'd fight for Hogwarts. I guess JK wanted some more bad guys&trouble and Slytherin was suitable.

I don't think Rowling was racist at all in letting everybody have their own prejudices. She is simply portraying a part of human nature, which is to categorize and profile everybody around you. Slytherins happen to have a reputation as muggle-haters because a lot of the inhabitants of Slytherin house feel that way. It doesn't mean everybody in the house feels that way, only that those who do seem to voice their opinions much more loudly than those that don't.

No. Slytherin helped in the battle. Rowling said that they came back with Slufhorn and reinforcements. Too bad she didn't write that part,however,it happened.

I always thought Phineas was saying it about Voldemort, because he did play his part (though it was evil.) I think I misunderstood it.

If a Slytherin student would have stayed and fought for Harry and company, then that person probably wouldn't have been sorted into Slytherin in the first place. The sorting hat does a great job of determining character and the resulting house, with only a few exceptions from changes later in life where a person might have excelled in another house (like Snape being brave). Like others have said, Slytherins are defined by their resourcefulness and self-preservation, which makes it unlikely they would stay. Also, think of how Slytherins felt about Harry after all of those quidditch matches, house cups, parseltongue, the Triwizard Tournament, and undesirable number 1, and tell me they would suddenly support him.

Slytherin is not bad I guess they are just afraid to Voldemort, but I do not like the pansy Parkinson, she is the worst, sacrificed harry for his own interest

Definitely not.

You are wrong there. The Slytherins DID come back and help. You should read the interviews taking place after Deathly Hallows.

Yeah, always prejudice about Slytherin. Definitly, they are 'bad' but Draco wasn't. Snape wasn't bad. He turned from right way in his past, but after that he choose the best one. Don't forget that Dumbledore trust him, when nobody want to. And he was right.

Slytherins are no more bad than any of the other houses. Determination is something GOOD. Self-preservation is something good. If you think about it, a Slytherin would be the last person to give up on life. Ambition is good if it is to be used for noble purposes and not to harm people.

I mean, come on, look at Hufflepuff. Hard work is good...but the bad side is that a Hufflepuff might be the kind of person that can be tricked into signing a paper that will make him slave for life. Ravenclaw smartness is good, unless it is to be used to steal banks and the like. Gryfindorr courage is good, unless that courage is the courage of pirates risking their lives to steal your money. Or unless that courage is not tempered with self-preservation.

Slytherin morals are good like the other houses. Most things that are good can be abused, but this does not make the moral bad.

It's just the fact they look out for themselves and value their lives more than others. Gryffindor students would usually try to save others rather than themselves, but sometimes there is a thin line between courage and stupidity. Having traits that Slytherin valued sometimes means you have to be mean in order to live. They will 'use any means to achieve their ends'.

You are talking about the negative side of their moral. I'm not going to repeat again what I said in the post above yours, but remember: ALL the students at Hogwarts are kids. Some are barely 11 years old. It is silly to call a group of kids evil. Silly for a child to say it, but a child is a child. It is scary when an adult says it.

I just pointed out their characteristics that could make people believe they're not good. Also, I never said they were evil, but you can't deny the fact Draco was mean and snobby, even at the age of eleven. Most of the Slytherin students we got to met with time only proved that they belonged there with every mean spirited thing they did. But you can't judge everyone else because of something they didn't do.

Look, I see that you like Slytherin so much, so you don't see it's bad side.
I don't judge it, and I don't think they are bad, again I'm writting one name- Severus Snape. But, in the other hand all kids in Slytherin are arrogant and they think like Looney said 'they look out for themselves and value their lives more than others' and I agree with her. But Slytherin is good 'cause it's part of Hogwarts. But don't forget that most of Deatheaters are from Sltherin.
That's my opinion

Nope, I am like the Slytherin defender at a trial. Not really. Yes, I do like Slytherin, but this does NOT affect me judgement, any more than your dislike for them should affect yours. Yes, Draco was mean. Yes, Snape was mean. Slughorn, on the other hand, was NOT. He took on Voldemort himself and did not try to run away.

EVERY house has a bad side. Hufflepuff love work, and so they could be tricked by greedy bosses into signing a paper which makes them slaves for the rest of their lives. Ravenclaw are smart and this is good, but the bad side of it is that a Ravenclaw could use his smartness to rob a bank. A Gryfindorr is brave, which is good, but it can be bad if they are berserkers. Slytherin has self-preservation and determination and, which is good, but it can be bad if they use their determination to bad ends.

See? It is silly to generalize. ALL the houses have bad and good. As Sirius said, it's the parts we choose to show that defines who we are.

So are most Slytherins bad? We can't even say this. We only saw a handful of them throughout the books. In fact, only five out of more than a hundred we get to know. Many of the Death Eaters came from other houses.

Wormtail the coward came from the brave and noble house. Smith was a cruel Hufflepuff. Rita was more than likely a Ravenclaw.(She is far from subtle, although she is determined.)

And they all left at the battle? What would YOU do if one hundred wands were pointed at you and you were ordered to leave? This is not the Slytherin's fault.

(I also point out that in the movies, Minerva commits a horrible war crime by sending children to the dungeon. But this is not about the movie.)


Draco was mean and walking the thin line of evil. Snape was mean. Slughorn, on the other hand, was brave enough to confront Voldemort and he was the key for Harry and Dumbledore to learn the truth. He was exceptionally kind as well.

I actually never said nor showed that I dislike Slytherins, because I don't. I also pointed out that we can't judge the whole Slytherin house based on the actions of a few. The point of everything is that more people who grew up to be evil came out of the Slytherin house. I never said anything that was bad or dishonest.

Ok, you don't understand what I'm talking about.
I know that all houses have thir bad sides, and that's normal. But looney and me, want to say that Slytherin is house which 'produce' the biggest numbre of bad people.
They are always arrogant, and all what I have said already.
Again I adore Snape!! Who was in Slytherin!
Then also 90% og Deatheaters are form S. You was talking about Rita and Smith, they were bad, but they weren't killers!!!!!!!!!! Piter is betrayer of Gryffindor, and I hate him! But nobody form Gryffindor was a killer. Nobody wanted to be famouse and to lower others under them. They don't make division on 'Pureblood' and 'Mudblood'- stupid!
Yeah, Sirius said, it's the parts we choose to show that defines who we are. And that's why Harry wasn't in Slytherin ! That is difference with Slytherins and Gryffindor, for example.
Again I'm repeatin that I don't hate S! It'd be ok, if I enter in Slytherin on 12 April. I love Severus Snape!

I never said you hated Slytherins. In fact, I never said anyone hated them. I told Black that she disliked them, but she has already that that's not true, so I am dropping that issue.




They produce the largest number? Okay, you might actually win in that one. We could count the number of known Death Eaters, and we would see that the majority whom we know their houses are from Slytherin. That doesn't mean that the MAJORITY of Slytherin students are evil. The majority of Death Eaters coming from Hogwarts are probably from Slytherin, but that is different from saying that the majority of the Slytherins are Death Eaters or evil.

I take back the Smith and Rita part. They may have been nasty, but of course they were not evil. Wormtail is a killer, though. He helped Voldemort kill Bertha and Cedric Diggory. Sure, he was only doing it because he was a coward and not because of racist reasons, but he is still just as evil as his racist counterparts.

And Harry most certainly was almost in Slytherin. He would be in Slytherin if Hagrid hadn't told him the lie that all evil wizards are Slytherins. He would not have been afraid if them if Hagrid hadn't spoken, and so he would not have said not Slytherin.

I completely agree with you. That's what I was saying all along.


You're right, Wormtail was a killer. But he killed out of fear, not desire.

I wondered If Harry almost got sorted into Slytherin because he had virtues Salazar appreciated, or was it the part of Voldemort's soul that was in him..

You're right, he did kill out of fear. But did he feal sorry? Anyway, I agree that his brand of evil is different from a typical Death Eater.


Yes, Harry did have part of Voldy's soul. That was part of the reason, it wasn't all of it. Remember what Dumbledore said in COS:

"Put you in Gryffindor," said Dumbledore calmly. "Listen to me, Harry. You happen to have many qualities Salazar Slytherin prized in his hand-picked students. His own rare gift, Parseltongue-resourcefulness-determination-a certain disregard for rules," he added, his mustache quivering again. "Yet the Sorting Hat placed you in Gryffindor. You know why that was. Think."
"It only put me in Gryffindor," said Harry in a defeated voice, "because I asked not to go in Slytherin...."

He was a parselmouth only because he was V's horcrux. That's why I wasn't sure if he had all those other qualities on his own. Maybe they were increased by V, or Harry had them completely thanks to him.

Yeah, he was a P thanks to Voldy. But that was only part of it. Voldy did not give him his other Slytherin qualities, therefore he would still be a Slytherin.

Fantastic speach you two, (withoit me ) hahah I like it, really.

But again, I say that Harry is different than any other Slytherin 'cause he has it's virtues, but he DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE THEM ! That's the point!

What about 'Mudbloods' ?? You didin't say anything about that.