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The Deathly Hallows The final year of the Harry Potter series - will good triumph over evil?

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Old 07-30-2007, 09:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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love the book right? im really happy that some of the
charcters turned out good in the ending or was
redeemed, and i hope we share the same thoughts about
it, so cast in your best "redeemed" character and post
in why...
here's my thoughts...

Dudley Dursley - after long and long years of taunting
and jeering Harry, he has come to the realization that
Harry isnt a waste of space and remembering that Harry
save him from the dementors, shook Harry's hands
too..clearly unexpected!

Kreacher - From passing information to Voldemort,
happy to be with Bella and Narcissa, murmuring offensive
words, he was then understood by just being loyal to his
kind masters and therefore to Harry as well, serving
them (with Ron and Hermione) while staying at
Grimmauld Place, he then admired Regulus' bravery for
standing out to Voldemort and ended up rallying
Hogwarts' house-elves to fight Voldemort...

Percy Weasley - from being Ministry's pet and
abandoning truth and his family, he turned out at last
before the battle starts, saying sorry for everthing
and admitted he's ministry-loving, family-disowning,
power-hungry moron...bonus points for shielding Fred's
dead body from further harm...

Severus Snape - where to start? from taunting Harry
from book1, we loathed him as Harry loathed Snape but then
he turn out to be a brave, trustworthy, outstanding
headmaster with 20 convincing memories to boot!! cant
enumerate all of them...

Albus Dumbledore - name was dragged to ground after he
died, the truth and lies, family history, death of
sister, friends with Grindelwald, all in all his past
was revealed, it was unbelievable and admit it you too
have doubted him too in the middle of the book, but
then he was redeemed too at the ending, Harry, assured
Dumbledore was never free from guilt, and Dumbledore
resented everything what happened and still turned out
to be our beloved Dumbledore we always loved...

The Malfoys - hesitant from book6, Draco cant kill
Dumbledore, and still Harry save Draco from burning
rumble, Narcissa being gentle to Harry while
inspecting if he's dead and told Voldemort that he is,
and in the end, turned to the good side...
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Kreacher - From passing information to Voldemort,
happy to be with Bella and Narcissa, murmuring offensive
words, he was then understood by just being loyal to his
kind masters and therefore to Harry as well, serving
them (with Ron and Hermione) while staying at
Grimmauld Place, he then admired Regulus' bravery for
standing out to Voldemort and ended up rallying
Hogwarts' house-elves to fight Voldemort...
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The Malfoys - hesitant from book6, Draco cant kill
Dumbledore, and still Harry save Draco from burning
rumble, Narcissa being gentle to Harry while
inspecting if he's dead and told Voldemort that he is,
and in the end, turned to the good side...
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Severus Snape - where to start? from taunting Harry
from book1, we loathed him as Harry loathed Snape but then
he turn out to be a brave, trustworthy, outstanding
headmaster with 20 convincing memories to boot!! cant
enumerate all of them...
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Dudley Dursley - after long and long years of taunting
and jeering Harry, he has come to the realization that
Harry isnt a waste of space and remembering that Harry
save him from the dementors, shook Harry's hands
too..clearly unexpected!
FAVORITES!!! I couldn't agree more, they were amazing in this book!!

As for percy he was okay...

And i hated dumbledore.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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FAVORITES!!! I couldn't agree more, they were amazing in this book!!

As for percy he was okay...

And i hated dumbledore.
but Dumbledore's great, i mean, everyone of us has his own "dark side" right? its just we readers, i think, found some difficulty accepting that our ever-loving muggle-protector recently died Dumbledore would have that kind of past...

im still not believing, the truth and lies about Dumbledore, until i read it that Dumbledore admit it, but then i understand its a burden for him, and he relented what happened... and i believe its similar to some of us, there are part of our past that we want to forget, we want to get out, or still living with it,

but as with the story, Dumbledore fought it, and he make up for it, and i think that's the one of the parts why Jo made Dumbledore like that, so even from someone who's very reliable and trustworthy and had a terrible past he could still stand up, move on and carry on his life, that's a moral story i guess...


and wouldn't you be glad that Dumbledore was still there at DH? i mean, i cant think for a situation or reason for Dumbledore to show up, since he died... and well there are other situations for him to appear but Jo made more than that, she was able to come up a past life story about Dumbledore, and i think that's great, awesome!
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Severus Snape for sure; I KNEW he was good. My theory proved true. It's just terrible that it took till DEATH for anyone to redeem him. His whole story was pretty darned painful. He sacrificed everything to help people who had long since given up their little faith for him.

I was also proud of Percy. That bit... gosh. I squealed and cried. And then... so soon after, Fred died =[ It was terrible.

Kreacher, too, gets major kudos from me. =D

I don't believe Dumbledore ever needed to be redeemed; you merely had to have faith in him and realize that everyone has mistakes. Even the great Albus Dumbledore.
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I don't believe Dumbledore ever needed to be redeemed; you merely had to have faith in him and realize that everyone has mistakes. Even the great Albus Dumbledore.
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yeah, i thought about that while making the thread, i thought too that Dumbledore couldnt be considered redeemed because he didnt really totally turned bad, i just like to point out that he's Albus Dumbledore, he's not just any other wizard celebrity, and strikingly nasty rumours with heavy evidences about him especially if it antagonists him through his shown principles shook my faith in him, and i believe some of you too guys....

may be its true, yes the rumors, made an insult to his currently clean image he have even after dying but it made an impact on the DH plot, that's why i included him....


talking about nasty rumors right now and relating to our own reality when it comes to rumors, truth and lies, i was wondering why Jo only included the whole blow about Dumbledore on DH, i mean why now? would it be better if she also slip Dumbledore's past in the previous books? well, Grindelwald, and his brother was mentioned and other stuff too....

Its like, because for me it was Jo's style in writing to slip some information about a character whether good or bad in previous books..like for example about Dumbledore she could also open up some of his past while Rita Skeeter tried to destablize him in GoF, or while the MoM also tried to bring him down in OotP...something like that? so we could wonder about that too while anticipatin' for DH to come out....just a thought...
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There's no doubt in my mind that was Snape. He always represented the great question in the whole series. What we needed was a justification for his acts and we finally had it. He was always good.

As for Kreacher, I thought that he changed too quickly and he was up to something. It turns out that he wasn't... good for him!

Dudley, well... he showed some decency, still a long way for redemption.

And Dumbledore... well, something about him had to come up. No one is 100% good, as some have pointed out. Dumbledore himself said that he has made mistakes and besides, he was devasted at his sister's funeral, to the point of not even defending himself when Aberforth hit him in the nose... and probably not even caring to mend it afterwards, being a great wizard, I am sure he could have fixed it perfectly. It was like he needed to leave some physical mark in himself to constantly remember him of his mistake... it was his own punishment to his behaviour. And, probably, his continuous belief in second chances was because he once needed one so badly.
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SNAPE!! ZOMG! I knew he would turn out good! And his story at the end that tells us everything about why he is good just was amazing! Definetly my favourite redeemed character. One of the bravest person Harry Potter ever knew. *tear*


Narcissa Malfoy :: *hugs her* What she did in the forest was so brave and sweet. I knew she was being kinda selfish only thinking about her family but she saved Harry all the same. That caught my heart when I read that.


KREACHER! Bless him! <3 New respect for him. Is he dead now? I don't remember. I think I read something about him in the battle at Hogwarts but I'm not certain. I'll make a thread. Anyway ... he was so good and helpful to Harry. So cute of him. Loooove him.


Percy. Super snob to super hero. lol. Not my favourite comeback but definetly one that was cute. He was awesome and so brave. Go Percy!
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KREACHER! Bless him! <3 New respect for him. Is he dead now? I don't remember. I think I read something about him in the battle at Hogwarts but I'm not certain. I'll make a thread. Anyway ... he was so good and helpful to Harry. So cute of him. Loooove him.


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yep, Kreacher was in the Battle of Hogwarts, he rallied other House-elves to fight the Dark side, shouting Regulus' name.... i though he was dead, bcoz he wasnt mentioned after the trio cant go back to Grimmauld Place,also it wasnt mentioned that he returned to Hogwarts...so i was suprised to read him doin his part in the battle...

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I'd deffinately have to say it's between Kreacher and Snape. I mean the absolute worst was thought of them for so long and in the end they both came through in so many ways and in some of the most important for Harry and his friends.They both got treated badly but still chose to continue with good intentions at heart no matter what. I loved the way she finished up for them both, it was just sad.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Definitely Snape. From being a character I despised since book 1, he's now one of my favorite characters. I'm rereading all the books again while keeping in mind that Snape is pretending to hate Harry while at the same time trying to keep him safe.

And yeah, Kreacher too i loved Kreacher in DH!
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Snape hands down!!! I always thought that Snape was good and really working for the Order and that he loved Lily. But to see that he gave his memories to Harry so he could know the truth and that ne never waviered in his love for Lily? That was just so heart-breaking. To know that everyone, in the Order and the DE, doubted him and did not respect him. And still he never waviered.

I cried like a baby. From when Snape died in the chapter before and told Harry

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"Take...it...take...it..."
And when Snape said ,
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I had to stop reading to get a box of tissues. What really got me was when Snape tells Dumbledore he is not a coward and Dumbledore replies -

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Then when Dumbeldore tells Snape after seeing his patronus,

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"Always," said Snape.
I really balled my eyes out! Just think that is why Lily's eyes have been important this entire story. Snape is JKR's BEST written character hands down!!! Brillant!

Now, Krecher is runner-up for me. I would hve never thought in a million years he would turn nice and helpful towards the trio. I think he has one of the best lines in the story too! Which made me cry for a different reason - I was laughing so hard!!

when Kreacher beemed Mundungus and said
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Then when Dumbeldore tells Snape after seeing his patronus,


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"Always," said Snape.


OMG!, i cried too... its really heart breaking, really, after all this time, for me its very hard to detect the real Severus if you're going to look at his character from the first 6 books and with these memories filling those gaps in time in order to redeem him was totally hair raising experience for, like i cant believe it and im very very sad as well while reading....

looove Snape!
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There's no comparison.
Snape is The best redeemed character.
I mean, Kreacher is a good one for the title too, but the Magnitude of Snape's revealation is just plain overpowering.
Percy was cute,and yeah, that part was great!
And Kreacher's transformation was awesome too.
But Snape was like super-terrific.
I really don't think Albus Dumbledore needed to be redeemed. I mean, what JKR did, bringing in his murky past, was to de-idealise him. AD is not the very model of greatness, but well, there are a few skeletons in everyone's cupboard.
And, I gave that AD part the moment I read"Rita Skeeter"
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It has to be Snape! He was so very complex and real, torn between his love for Lily and his hatred for James,and love won out! His redemption in the Prince's Tale was wonderful. I just wish he would've gotten a portrait in the headmaster's office, that would have made it complete
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Definately Snape. It just made his death so much more tragic.
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I agree with Alesia. Finding out that Snape was a great man made his meaningless death so much worse.

I always trusted Snape. By the end of the 6th book I had pretty much guessed what the 7th book told us, but to have it affirmed like that was amazing and heartbreaking. Finally, the truth is known!

I really loved Percy's bit too. I was waiting for him to come back. I loved how Fred, who was the person who probably spoke the worst of Percy during his absence, was the person who sort of welcomed him back into the fold. Then Fred had to go die and I had to go bury my head in a towel and cry.
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I agree with all of this. I would add one thing though.

Draco needs a little shout out too. If he had never disarmed Dumbledore Voldemort would have been the rightful owner of the elder wand. Harry would not have beaten Voldemort in the final battle.

Draco is the reason harry did not die in Malfoy Manor. And let's not forget it was Draco's wand that Harry used in the final battle.
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My favorite redeemed character is Snape, followed closely by Draco and Kreacher. They were absolutely brilliantly written, and their redemption is very poignant and wonderful.
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Draco, Snape and Dudley.
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I loved Dudley's redemption the most, since we don't see much of his ability to feel anything beyond a need to punch someone weaker than him earlier on in the series.

I also liked Regulus Black's redemption a lot, because I loved it that a pure-blood Death Eater could, of his own steam, think about and realize that his stance was wrong and then do something really brave. I guess it wasn't entirely unprovoked, it was because of Kreacher.

And of course, Snape is an all-time favourite on this list. I just wish Snape had been a better teacher (as in, he had refrained from picking on Neville), it would have made a world of a difference.

I always thought Hermione was right about Kreacher. Yay for our resident know-it-all...

Hmmm, I didn't think Dumbledore needed redeeming, I agree with someone else here who said he was just de-idealized.
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