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As per the announcement made earlier, the second Charms lesson of the term is to take place, not on the room on the third floor, but in an enclosure in the grounds. This enclosure looks small but is, inside, much larger than a regular classroom. The roof is a mild cream-white and, once you step through the archway that serves as a door, you will see darker desks lining all four walls, leaving most of the space inside the room vacant.
The are large French windows set in each wall, letting light pleasantly flood in. The Professor's desk stands at the front of the classroom, and Jared is standing by it, gloved hands tucked into the pockets of deep black robes, as he waits for the students to start trickling in. Despite the weather outside, the insides of the temporary classroom are pleasantly warm, not too hot but certainly not too cold either.
OOC: Helloooo! Sowwee for the delay. You can RP your charries arriving, but the lesson will probably reaaaally start in five to ten hours. ^__^
Emily couldn't believe her ears... he was not letting up. "Oh I see that you've forgotten the medieval times... remember when witches were burnt at the stake for being... witches", she hissed. "They weren't very comprehending, nor accpeting them were they?"
"And before you go onto say, Oh but times have changed- they havn't! not that much anyway! There will always be a large number of muggles that feel uncomfortable with the very idea of us, let alone co-existing with us. Its foolish and irresponsible to think co-existance is ever going to be a good idea."
Emily could have continued her rant for the duration of the lesson but thought it wise that she didn't. "Look it's great that you like muggles and have grown up with them, but the world is not ready for co-existance and that clearly settles my point that muggles are less perceptive and less comprehending."
Emily's head spun. Ok now she really was sick and tired of hearing about muggles. In face Emily was sure she had had this very same discussion in History of Magic... and D.A.D.A ... and Potions... and EVERY other class.
She rubbed her temples gently. She didn't have a high tollerence for repetition.
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Arya really had thought she was gonna be able to sit quietly while the discussion continued, at least til the professor changed the subject. But it was becoming impossible to do. At least another Griffindor had agreed with Sabel. And at least other students in the class were irritated about all this muggle talk.
But this one girl....just wasn't gonna let her go without speaking. With a slightly vexed look in her eyes, she turned them on the older girl that was arguing with Sabel. "Just because the majority of muggles didn't except us hundreds of years ago does NOT mean that they won't accept us now. You can't stereo type an entire group because of some of their past. Sure there will be some that will be uncomfortable with co-excited with us, but the same can be said for wizards." Eyes narrowing slightly, she huffed a small sigh. "Its foolish to think that muggles now are the same that they have been in the past. It's not foolish to think that co-existence isn't possible when some of us already do co-exist with muggles to a certain extent." Like herself.
"I know muggles who are more perceptive and comprehending than some of the wizards I've met. If anything we're more ignorant to their world than they are to ours. After all, we've always known about their existence, and yet most of us still don't know how they live their daily lives." Tearing her eyes away from the girl, she slumped back into her seat, arms crossed over her chest. This was just...tiring. New topic please?
Sabel frowned at this girl. How in the blazes did she get from perception to the Salem Witch trials? And suddenly they were onto co-existing and the Statue. Where in all of Merlin's tangled beard did that come from? Tapping his fingers on the desk, he gave her a sidelong look, halting dead in his tracks when Arya began to speak. For a moment he blinked at her, surprised at the sudden outspokenness she portrayed. In truth, he couldn't help but smile a little at her. She was rather cute when she was all huffy.
And he couldn't agree with her more. He wanted to nod and point his thumb at Arya and simply say 'what she said', but he settled for the nod as he looked back to the other girl. "Forgive me for not being clear. I never said I condoned ignorance or action based on it." Best not to make a further comment on that point. "I merely pointed out that both sides are susceptible to the same amount, in counter to your argument that muggles were more-so. Obviously we have both made transgressions against one another." Plain and simple as that.
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Arya really had thought she was gonna be able to sit quietly while the discussion continued, at least til the professor changed the subject. But it was becoming impossible to do. At least another Griffindor had agreed with Sabel. And at least other students in the class were irritated about all this muggle talk.
But this one girl....just wasn't gonna let her go without speaking. With a slightly vexed look in her eyes, she turned them on the older girl that was arguing with Sabel. "Just because the majority of muggles didn't except us hundreds of years ago does NOT mean that they won't accept us now. You can't stereo type an entire group because of some of their past. Sure there will be some that will be uncomfortable with co-excited with us, but the same can be said for wizards." Eyes narrowing slightly, she huffed a small sigh. "Its foolish to think that muggles now are the same that they have been in the past. It's not foolish to think that co-existence isn't possible when some of us already do co-exist with muggles to a certain extent." Like herself.
"I know muggles who are more perceptive and comprehending than some of the wizards I've met. If anything we're more ignorant to their world than they are to ours. After all, we've always known about their existence, and yet most of us still don't know how they live their daily lives." Tearing her eyes away from the girl, she slumped back into her seat, arms crossed over her chest. This was just...tiring. New topic please?
Emily couldn't help but smile at the stange girls sudden outburst. Would it never end? If class discussions continued to head in this direction things were going to get nasty... is this what the ministry wanted? is this what they expected when they decided to alter the curriculum. A Hogwarts war?... she could already imagine the school divided. This was so wrong.
"Look we're each entitled to our own opinions. We all have different experiences with muggles. And just for the record your an idiot if you think you would be accepted for being a witch. Sure you may be accepted by some- I'm not saying they're all the same, but MOST would fear you, most would hate you for what you are, most would hunt you and persecute you for it. Things havn't changed all that much. We're too different to be tollerated and accepted."
Emily turned away from the girl... she really didn't interest her.
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Sabel frowned at this girl. How in the blazes did she get from perception to the Salem Witch trials? And suddenly they were onto co-existing and the Statue. Where in all of Merlin's tangled beard did that come from? Tapping his fingers on the desk, he gave her a sidelong look, halting dead in his tracks when Arya began to speak. For a moment he blinked at her, surprised at the sudden outspokenness she portrayed. In truth, he couldn't help but smile a little at her. She was rather cute when she was all huffy.
And he couldn't agree with her more. He wanted to nod and point his thumb at Arya and simply say 'what she said', but he settled for the nod as he looked back to the other girl. "Forgive me for not being clear. I never said I condoned ignorance or action based on it." Best not to make a further comment on that point. "I merely pointed out that both sides are susceptible to the same amount, in counter to your argument that muggles were more-so. Obviously we have both made transgressions against one another." Plain and simple as that.
"Well thank you for this rivetting conversation", she smiled at Sabel... "Though I still stand by my opinion. Muggles though they may be complex in some way, are narrow minded in others, AS are we... though I still believe we are more capable of comprehending and percieving our worlds."
Eh, it seemed Josh was starting to get rather angry. Not good! Not the fact that he was getting angry at Evan...just in general. She didn't enjoy seeing him upset.
Not to mention he just sat particularly far away from her.
THAT she didn't enjoy either.
Frowning, Evelyn unfolded her arms and opened up her notebook before taking out her quill and ink and writing the date at the top of the page. WHA? They were talking about more muggle stuff?! For once, she agreed with Stutters. The muggles were getting on her nerves.
However, hearing everyone's answer, they all were getting on her nerves too. Except Josh of course.
...
"You mean...you're a muggleborn..." Well, that made him all the much worse for her. However, she could not help the quiet snort that escaped her as her shoulders shook from laughter. "If you were a muggle, you wouldn't be here."
Yet, after that, she felt the need to put a little of her own opinion in on it. None of this 'they have feelings too' stuff that everyone was talking about and how they were all 'the same'. "I think muggles have a lot more...emotional issues than wizards do, which can cloud their thought process and ultimately affect their decisions." Which, wizards didn't. In her opinion.
Well, she hadn't really met a muggle, though all the muggleborns she'd met...she thought they had issues. It made sense her mind.
" You could call me Muggleborn," Rex told Everlyn." I prefer Muggle" Rex said to Evelyn." I like your interpertaion of the emotional issues" Rex explained to Evelyn.
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"hey, what that, you are teasing those muggleborns, right, like me" Raven reacted.
But, yes, muggle earn money and food in hard ways, unlike wizardkind, we can replenish what we have.
" No, I am not teasing muggleborns" Rex told Raven." I just prefer to call myself a muggle" Rex said to Rowan.
"When muggles play sports, they have to try very hard snd work hard to keep playing them or they lose their spots to a new younger version of them" Rex explained to the professor.
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Right. Jared straightened up. "Alright, everyone. Before the practical portion of the lesson, we're going to have a discussion about the relationship between charms and muggles." Never having enjoyed restrictions, he still had mixed feelings about this but, after a brief pause, he continued. "First off, who is a muggle? I don't just mean the standard definition, though you can give that if you like. What makes a muggle so different from someone practicing magic? Is a muggle really that different?" [/COLOR]
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Legend lifted his head up from on the cool desk. Huh. All good question's professor Dude, he'd give you that. "Well Muggle's and us...are basically the same. We are all human. Muggle's just can't preform magic." That was a sad thought. "A Muggle can be a mom, dad, student, teacher. They can be shop owners and work in offices. They difference- you know magic, is so small. Yet of course it does make a big impact." Cause like...they could make things explode with their wands. And Muggle's couldn't.
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Charley moved from her seat. She liked participating, but there was too much else going on where she was. Maybe she could find another seat. She hadn't seen her friends; they were bound to be here somewhere.
"I don't think they're all that different. I mean, they don't have magic, sure, but it's not as if they don't find ways to deal with many problems just because of that. They have transportation, vaccinations, things like that, and they often aren't as effective as ours but they still have them. They use what they have."
"Hey Belle! Hey Jaina!" Charley exclaimed softly. She'd been trying to find a different place to sit; at the back of the classroom she wasn't really able to participate in the beginning of the class and was having trouble hearing Professor Descoteaux.
"Hey Charley!" Belle exclaimed as she saw her. She gave her a hug , "Come sit here, you can the professor better than where you were sitting." she smiled.
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Nika wandered in and looked around, why are we having class here? Hmmm... As she made her way inside she looked at the front of the classroom where the professor was standing next to his desk. She felt very embarrassed for not having introduced herself to the professor before her first class. Nika walked right up to him this time deciding that it's better late than never."Hello Professor. I'm Nika Adler. I didn't have a chance to introduce myself to you last time," the short little girl spoke with a soft high-pitched voice.
Belle noticed Nika, and she waved to her from her seat. "Hi Nika!" Annabelle said.
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"Hey Charley!" Belle exclaimed as she saw her. She gave her a hug , "Come sit here, you can the professor better than where you were sitting." she smiled.
--- Belle noticed Nika, and she waved to her from her seat. "Hi Nika!" Annabelle said.
"Thank you!" Charley reaffirmed as she and Belle hugged. She sat down, took her materials out of her large blue satchel and gently dropped the bag at her feet.
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"Why." Jimmy ventured, "Is everyone getting so worked up?" He raised his hand. "A muggle is human." That was all he was giving as an answer. Everyone knew that muggles couldn't do magic. At all. And that they weren't allowed to know about magic and all that.
Why people were getting all aggro was beyond him. He folded his arms and looked around disinterestedly.
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Removing his things from his bag, setting them up all neatly on his desk, Patroclus listened in as the lesson got under way, "My definition of a muggle is one who is without magic, nor do they know anything about the exsistence of magic. I know many would say even a muggle who knew about magic is a muggle, but to me they are like a new brand of muggle, like......the 'in-the-know Muggles'.....does that make sense?" It was hard to figure out whether his words were leaving his mouth in the correct way, for they were sounding rather jumbled to his own ears.
"Is the knowledge of our existence really a factor, though?" Jared asked. Like Patroclus had pretty much said, if a muggle stumbled into Hogwarts, he or she'd still be a muggle. "Doesn't that also make one think that the Statue might not be the thing that really separates us?"
They didn't need to abolish the statue to help muggles. If he had to do his classes this way, he'd give the students something to think about.
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Okay, so Helena decided to finally open her mouth, once the silence was broken. She raised her hand. "Muggles are the non magical people, uncapable of performing magic." Sooo she pretty much read everything she wrote down. Buuuut she didn't say the part in which she considered their lives boring without magic. It wasn't... suitable for the question. Or was it?
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Kurumi looked down at her parchment. Patroclus had pretty much covered what she had wrote, along with coming up with a rather interesting concept. "Perhaps they are Neo Muggles?" Kurumi wondered aloud. "I always found it interesting that we use the term Muggleborn to describe those witches and wizards born from nonmagical bloodlines...but then aren't we technically putting them in an extended category of Muggle?" Kurumi tickled her nose for a moment with her quill. "I mean, we often say that a Muggle is someone who is incapable of magic...but clearly this is not always the case."
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When he started the lesson Selina rose her hand, "A muggle is a human being who dies not possess magical abilities. They lead a similar life style to Wizards but lack the ability to manipulate wandlore. In my personal opinion they are not that different. In a magical home if someone is a Squib they live a normal life style. It is just different."
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And he had just gone and ranted on two of his fellow classmates. Wincing a little, he cast his eyes down for a moment before looking back up at both of them. If anything, he was very appreciative that there was the acknowledgement of humanity in muggles. Some people didn't see it that way. "Muggles are people." Definite agreement there. "Who have to make their way in the world without the use of magic."
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Lexi raised her hand a bit and said, "Muggles aren't much different than we are... the ONLY difference is that we are born with the ability to perform magic and Muggles are not." Pretty straight forward, really.
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He raised his hand. "Professor, a muggle is simply a person who cannot practice magic. Usually they have no idea that the magical world even exists, unless they marry a witch or wizard or have a child who has magical abilities," he explained.
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"So the Muggles would be people like us, only more creative and... inability to perform magic like us. I'm talking in general, of course." He didn't need anyone standing up and saying 'Oh but I'm more creative than anyone!'
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"Well Professor, muggles are certainly no different from wizards.We are all the same, only they can't preform magic. But magic isn't a necessity. Muggles get by without it just fine. I'm a muggleborn and I really don't feel any different knowing that I have powers. What I'm trying to say is that we are not that different from them. I mean look at me, I was raised a muggle and I'm not any different."
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Belle answered the question. "Professor a muggle and a wizard are basically the same on the outisde but the difference is whether they can preform magic or not." she shrugged and turned to Jania. "And i know some wizards who dress out of place sometimes which is kind of funny." she giggled.
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Legend lifted his head up from on the cool desk. Huh. All good question's professor Dude, he'd give you that. "Well Muggle's and us...are basically the same. We are all human. Muggle's just can't preform magic." That was a sad thought. "A Muggle can be a mom, dad, student, teacher. They can be shop owners and work in offices. They difference- you know magic, is so small. Yet of course it does make a big impact." Cause like...they could make things explode with their wands. And Muggle's couldn't.
"Squibs are incapable of magic, too," Jared pointed out. "That means there's something, other than the inability to practice magic, that sets us apart from muggles. Can you think what?"
Kurumi would have the answers to some of her questions, if she could.
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"Professor, aside from stating the obvious- that muggles lack magical abilities, magical blood... they are also- I believe limited in their ability to think openly and freely. Or at least more limited than we are."
Emily paused to take a breath, "I mean they are not exposed to magic and so cannot comprehend it when they do see it. Aside from that of course they're not all that different at all. I suppose it's the way that we live that makes us so different. But at the end of they day, they have feelings, emotions much like us, they learn and they work much like us, they have similar family dynamics- though without the magic."
"But a witch or wizard never before exposed to the muggle lifestyle couldn't understand much about their devices and inventions," Jared said. "Not having magic and still living a smooth life, that requires enormous creativity. Could that mean we are the limited ones?"
"Exactly." He gave her a faint smile. Feelings. Emotions. In the end, just humans. All of them.
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" Professor ... " He began a bit tentatively, he didnt want to sound to .. err Slytherin about this " Obviously as human beings us and muggles are the same , but ... there alot ... Simpler than us " Zander half winced at his own words " i mean to say there must have been a reason for us been present with the gift of magic. I'm of the opinion that muggles wouldn't be able to use the gift effectively " He took a breath " But like i said as human beings were the same .. look the same .. have the same emotions .. "
"I've had the impression that their devices are pretty complicated," Jared said, scratching his chin thoughtfully. "They probably think we're the simpler ones."
Muggles couldn't have used the gift of magic effectively? "I'm afraid that's a hypothesis that can't be tested," he smiled. "But couldn't muggles think the same of us? That magic runs in our blood, because we couldn't have coped with a life without it?"
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She was sick of teachers saying they and muggles were not that different. "A muggle practicing magic carn't actually do magic. Not like us anyway."
Well they coudn't. "Muggle magicians were all mirrors and smoke. And if they did magic like us they would be a wizard, so yeah, they are different."
"That's quite right, Emily."
Muggles could try to do magic. But actually do it? Nope.
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Simon smiled as he raised his hand, he knew this question, it was one of the first question this term that he actually knew. "A muggle is a person who doesn't have the ability to use magic, they also fight with there fists instead of there wands." Simon smiled. "They have no idea that Wizards exist unless they are one of the lucky one's that get into Hogwards of any wizard school."
"If they get into a school like ours, they aren't muggles," Jared corrected. "They're muggle-born."
Not that the blood status mattered.
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"Um... I think a muggle is a non magical human being, usually with no knowledge of wizardry. Obviously they're the same as us, but they do not have a magical ability."
She smiled hopefully, praying she was right.
"Right you are, Willow."
Non-magical human. That summed it up, pretty nicely.
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Okayyyy... discussion time. And its about Muggles. No surprise there really. He titled his head for a moment before raising his hand in reply "Muggles are people who wished they were Wizards." Seriously "I mean just look at their fiction output-- its always got something to do with some kind of angels or demons or fairies or superheroes or whatever fantastical character that does awesome things in these awesome places, heck they've even published their own ideas about witches, wizards or warlocks. They totally want to be us. But they're not." Too bad really.
Jared grinned. "Have you looked at their non-fiction output? It'd make you believe they all want to be physicists and doctors and actors and a dozen other muggle things."
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She then raised her hand, "Muggles are people who do not have the ability to perform magic and who have no blood or relation to those with magic. Physically and mentally they are no different than us, they just live and see the world differently because they do not have the powers that we have. They cannot do all the things that we can with magic and so must compensate in other ways."
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"Muggles are people that cannot preform magic. They also don't have any recent ancestors that were witches and wizards. This differs from squibs, who cannot do magic, but come from a wizarding line."
"Perfectly right," Jared said. The most complete definitions so far.
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"Muggles. Are. Getting. On. My. Last. Nerve."
The book came down with every word onto his already tender forehead (headdesk, anyone?), and when he looked up again he looked slightly disappointed. "Apart from the whole magic thing, the main thing difference between muggles and wizards right now to ME is that when we discuss wizards and magic, I don't want to run head first into the flailing branches of the Whomping Willow."
"Muggles?" Jared asked pleasantly. Muggles or muggle talk? He'd like to know that.
Yes. Really.
"And muggles do?" Want to run headfirst into the flailing branches of the Whomping Willow? Jared doubted that.
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"ONLY FOU--?!" His hand flew to his mouth to close it up before he could finish his sentence; though his face clearly told the rest: He just stole my badge, but you deduct only FOUR?! What was that, a gift? Not only had the boy stolen from him, but he had also disrected a fellow student, disturbed the class, and talked inappropriately! But what, he got only FOUR and NO detention! Might as well give those points instead of deducting it. It would at least be cooler, see, I encourage a bit of trouble. Biting both of his lips and cheeks, he gulped hard. He had to keep silent. And leave Josh to Marie.
Jared raised an eyebrow.
"Yes?"
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He supposed that was enough, therefore he turned back to Evan yet did not bother to take a single closer step towards him this time, only glaring at him with his dark brown gaze. He dared to speak to him? ''Oh, shut up. You have no capability of comprehending to figure out what i care or do not care about'' Idiot! It was really unbelivable how he and his kind managed to look innocent everywhere and Josh was always the one to be punished. There was hardly any justice in this school, as he experienced, but he was not going to whine about it like a baby. He was going to fight against it so, yes, he did not mind if they were the ones who got the victory this time. ''Take it, Cartwright, and i advise you to use it wisely this time'' and with those words the Gryffindor boy threw the badge at the Slytherin's face not caring about if it hit would his head.
Jared's eyes narrowed. How old were these students, again? Twelve? He could deduct more points, but he doubted that would have an effect on the Gryffindor. Detention?
Jared gave it a moment's thought.
"I want a essay about why it's not a good idea to bring fights into the classroom on my desk first thing tomorrow morning, Joshua."
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''Professor!'' so he stood up. ''I cannot say that there's any relation between Muggles and Charms but i feel the urge to say that i have found what some of our friends stated about Muggles very annoying. Apparently they know nothing about them. I do agree with Sabel but there are a few things that i want to add.'' eyeing the whole class again he went on ''First of all Muggles are not idiots just because they cannot perform magic. I can tell that most of them are more capable than wizards considering the way they deal with their lives. And the statement that Muggles cannot comprehend magic is not true. My father is a Muggle and he is quite aware of my and my mother's, who is a pureblood witch, abilities'' He glared at the Ravenclaw girl who argued with Sabel. ''And the ones born without the ability of performing magic is not only Muggles. There are also Squibs''
"You're quite right on all accounts," Jared said quietly. The class seemed to be turning into a muggles-are-fools vs. muggles-are-not discussion. Great. Just great.
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Mafalda smiled. She was sure she knew this one. She said loudy "There are two main differences. One: We have magic,they don't. Two: They are ignorant of our existence but we are not ignorant of theirs.."
"Squibs can't perform magic either, Mafalda," Jared reminded her. "And there are muggles that know of our existence, though -" He nodded - "I agree that most of them are ignorant of it."
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While the chaos continued, some students freaking out and others quietly jotting down notes, Amadeus cleared his throat, sat up straight, and raised his hand. "Professor, I do believe that aside from the general definition of the term 'muggle,' they are quite different. Because of our use of magic and the muggle world's lack of magic, our ways are quite different. Because of our magical abilities, we have created a distinct society away from non-magical peoples. Some elements of our cultures tend to collide, such as wizards wearing muggle fashions and muggles making 'movies,'" He made quotation marks with his fingers, "about what they believe wizards and witches to be, but other than that, we couldn't be more different." He finished his well-thought out speech, quite proud of his answer. Amadeus could have scoffed at some of the other simples answers: Muggles can't perform magic. He had to resist rolling his eyes.
Couldn't be more different? Jared gave the Ravenclaw a nod, mildly thoughtful. Time to move away from this topic. He had hoped it wouldn't spiral into this.
But, of course, it had. How could it not?
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She raised her hand, "Sir, since I'm a halfie, my mom has just always said that when my dad was in heaven that he got lost on the way to the magic line and that now he's down here without any magic." she said with a little giggle....it was always a good story when she was younger at least.
Ah. Jared grinned.
"Interesting." And it was.
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"Muggles are people, same as we are, but in so many ways, they're very different, too. They see magic as something unknown, unfamiliar, and sometimes even evil."Right. Like that burning at the stake conversation they'd had in another of their classes."They see magic as learning tricks rather than a way of life, like we do. I guess they've just been closed off to our way of living for so long that the things we do each and every day seem impossible to them."
"Nicely said, Sierra."
She had remained neutral despite going into some detail. Which was a relief.
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"I don't think they're all that different. I mean, they don't have magic, sure, but it's not as if they don't find ways to deal with many problems just because of that. They have transportation, vaccinations, things like that, and they often aren't as effective as ours but they still have them. They use what they have."
They use what they have?
"Like we do," Jared grinned.
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"Everyone, I am real Mugggle" Rex told the class and professor. " I trandferred to HoGwarts from SweetWater, Texas because of my grades" Rex said to the class.
" I believe the difference between a muggle and wizards/witches is muggles have to try very hard in classes and must work herd in ordinary jobs to get money" Rex explained to everyone.
And I'm Lord Voldemort."Muggle-born," Jared corrected mildly.
And?
"But students here study quite a bit for OWLs and NEWTs, if I'm not mistaken?" Jared asked. "And a tough job is a tough job, despite magic. It takes a lot to become, say, an auror or an Unspeakable. What do you think?"
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Yet, after that, she felt the need to put a little of her own opinion in on it. None of this 'they have feelings too' stuff that everyone was talking about and how they were all 'the same'. "I think muggles have a lot more...emotional issues than wizards do, which can cloud their thought process and ultimately affect their decisions." Which, wizards didn't. In her opinion.
Emotional issues? Now that was a new point. "And how is that?" Jared asked, not unpleasantly.
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Jackie thought about that question throughly. Then she raised her hand. "The real difference between muggles and us is that we have magic. But, really how did we aquire this magic but muggles didn't? Muggles use their imagination for MAGIC, but we really have it. They think of how magic would be good, but they don't know it. How did magic get started? Did everybody have it and then people just became squibs starting the whole MUGGLE? Professor..." she said looking at the professor hoping he would explain.
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"Think of it as you would of a skill. Some people can carry a tune, some people can't." Simple? Simple.
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Sitting there next to Evan she rolled her eyes when the professor asked his question about muggles. With all the damn talk of muggles this term they might as well just let them into the school. It was getting ridiculous. "WHY do we have to discuss muggles in every single class? I personally am getting tired of hearing about them." Seriously, this was a school of witchcraft and wizardry, not a school of muggles.
Did he look like he was jumping for joy, having to discuss all of this? "No one person sets the curricula," Jared said, tones neutral.
And the door was unlocked. She was free to leave.
Moving on.
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But, yes, muggle earn money and food in hard ways, unlike wizardkind, we can replenish what we have.
"One can only replenish so much," Jared mused. "Food and money can't be conjured even here."
That didn't make wizards less lazy - in general - than muggles, though. Or was that prejudice on his part?
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"Look it's great that you like muggles and have grown up with them, but the world is not ready for co-existance and that clearly settles my point that muggles are less perceptive and less comprehending."
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"I think that's more of an acquired mindset than an inability to comprehend," Jared said thoughtfully. "You shut off a world to people for so long, they come to believe it doesn't and can't exist. Then you let them see it. They're not going to take kindly to it. Like we wouldn't if we, say, suddenly found out that animals can talk and use magic. Being wary of something that one sees as unnatural is part of a human's instinct and the inbuilt need for self-preservation."
Did that mean the Statue should be abolished? Definitely not. That'd be utter folly. "I believe the difficulty of co-existence has more to do with our current mindsets, than with an inability - on either part - to understand."
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"When muggles play sports, they have to try very hard snd work hard to keep playing them or they lose their spots to a new younger version of them" Rex explained to the professor.
"And doesn't the same go for Quidditch?" Jared asked, interested. "Players become too old or unfit, and are replaced."
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"Hey Charley!" Belle exclaimed as she saw her. She gave her a hug , "Come sit here, you can the professor better than where you were sitting." she smiled.
Students. Hugging. In the classroom.
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Right. Moving on.
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"Why." Jimmy ventured, "Is everyone getting so worked up?" He raised his hand. "A muggle is human." That was all he was giving as an answer. Everyone knew that muggles couldn't do magic. At all. And that they weren't allowed to know about magic and all that.
Jared would have liked to ask that himself, you know.
"Yes." He paused. Human. "Right enough."
Except that that wasn't much of a definition, and the Ravenclaw probably knew that already.
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And he couldn't agree with her more. He wanted to nod and point his thumb at Arya and simply say 'what she said', but he settled for the nod as he looked back to the other girl. "Forgive me for not being clear. I never said I condoned ignorance or action based on it." Best not to make a further comment on that point. "I merely pointed out that both sides are susceptible to the same amount, in counter to your argument that muggles were more-so. Obviously we have both made transgressions against one another." Plain and simple as that.
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"Well thank you for this rivetting conversation", she smiled at Sabel... "Though I still stand by my opinion. Muggles though they may be complex in some way, are narrow minded in others, AS are we... though I still believe we are more capable of comprehending and percieving our worlds."
Okay. "Right," Jared said. "We're moving on." No need to get worked up about the whole issue, right?
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Hmmm there were plenty of things that wizards did easier than muggles but which one to pick? Mia put her hand in the air. "There's the summoning charm Professor. We can make things come to us with just a flick of our wands whereas muggles actually have to get up and retrieve the object they require."
Of course that might be easier for wizards but it tended to make them lazy too.
"There is reparo which instantly fixes anything that was broken. A muggle has to learn how to fix different things that we have a spell for that depending on the skillof the wizard could fi most anything.", Chloe responded with her hand raised high.
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hmm. Finlay knew an answer to this. It was quite simple actually, because well wizards were totally more epic than muggles in the aspect of being able to manage to do things a bit quicker. "Aguamenti would be one I think." Well he did hope it was true. "Because that charm conjures water from our wands, where as a muggle would need to go and find a tap to get water, which I think would take longer....as they may have to walk for a long time to find a tap?" Or maybe not. But he was sure it would be slower than using that charm.
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Eyeing the professor for a moment when he seemed to be questioning his only natural reaction to the hilarity of the amount of points deducted, Evan looked away to refrain from continue the... scene. And he actually did nothing other than taking some notes when the professor required Josh to write an essay about the subject. Hmpf. Like it would put him off picking up more fights. But obviously, the prefect wasn't the professor here... apparently, the man knew much better than him. Or, he hoped that was the case.
A charm to speed things up? "There's transfiguration," he pointed out softly. It wasn't necessarily a charm, but still... an efficient spell, no? Muggles had to find that specific object, while the wizards could simply transfigure something close and use it for the time being. It tended to make the wizards much lazier though...
"Or... we can charm something to go on itself, rather than staying by it and doing all by ourselves more slowly."
Kyle Manning had been quiet for the entire class listening to the discussion finally thought she knew something that witches and wizards had easier than muggles and non-magical creatures. She quickly, spoke up "Professor Descoteaux," she smiled softly, "I would have to say that the Undetectable Extension Charm, to me, is something that helps wizards and witches and other magical folk immensely." She smiled, twirling her hair as she spoke.
"I mean, without the undetectable extension charm many a magical homes would be immensely too small for all of the family members that live in it - for example, my own family home is quite small when you look at it from an outside perspective." Pausing for a moment as she thought, "But, the thing is the house does fit seperate bedrooms for myself, my brother Ed, my sister little Charlotte, and my parents room as well as three guest rooms. And the house from the outside looks just big enough to fit a bedroom for myself and my sister Charlie and two other bedrooms one for my parents and one for Ed." She smiled, thinking of her childhood home it was vast and expansive on the inside and small and quaint on the out.
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Raven raised a hand and say "Wizard can do transport easily, Professor, we have the apparition charm, the ability to travel instantly" he lower the hand after, and look to professor innocently
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -"[/B] Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Rowan raised her hand. "Well, Sir, we can use Scorgify to clean something, for example dirty dishes." She HATED washing the dishes. It was always her job at the home for girls where she grew up in the muggle world.
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"Squibs are incapable of magic, too," Jared pointed out. "That means there's something, other than the inability to practice magic, that sets us apart from muggles. Can you think what?"
Kurumi would have the answers to some of her questions, if she could.
Okay, he had a point. "Well, squibs are related to magical people. Muggles... They have nothing to do with us, the wizards." Except for those who have children with magical abilities. But muggles are... still muggles. Still no magic.
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Helena raised her hand. "Cooking? I've seen the way my mother cooks, for example. She tried... the muggle way once, it took much longer."
"Muggles?" Jared asked pleasantly. Muggles or muggle talk? He'd like to know that.
Yes. Really.
"And muggles do?" Want to run headfirst into the flailing branches of the Whomping Willow? Jared doubted that.
Okay. "Right," Jared said. "We're moving on." No need to get worked up about the whole issue, right?
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
"Yes. Muggles."
Jake scowled. ADDED to the fact that they kept on and on about them, RUINING his NEWT year, the young man already disliked muggled for his own personal reasons.
But he wasn't stupid enough to outright SAY IT.
And...
"Yes. The do make me want to run headfirst into the flailing branches of the Whomping Willow."
They themselves couldn't, could they? They didn't even know what it was.
He half raised his hand, and elaborated on something someone had kind of already said. "Well... since reparo is the mending charm, I guess this counts too. Our medical stuff. Like, if someone was to break their arm it would be mended with a charm and they could go on their merry way. But in the muggle world, you have to be careful because it takes weeks to mend. Pretty sure it's a charm that mends bones... and there's like, healing charms as well."
But it was mostly potions.
Anyway... back to hating on muggles.
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"Is the knowledge of our existence really a factor, though?" Jared asked. Like Patroclus had pretty much said, if a muggle stumbled into Hogwarts, he or she'd still be a muggle. "Doesn't that also make one think that the Statue might not be the thing that really separates us?"
They didn't need to abolish the statue to help muggles. If he had to do his classes this way, he'd give the students something to think about.
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"Squibs are incapable of magic, too," Jared pointed out. "That means there's something, other than the inability to practice magic, that sets us apart from muggles. Can you think what?"
Kurumi would have the answers to some of her questions, if she could.
"But a witch or wizard never before exposed to the muggle lifestyle couldn't understand much about their devices and inventions," Jared said. "Not having magic and still living a smooth life, that requires enormous creativity. Could that mean we are the limited ones?"
"Exactly." He gave her a faint smile. Feelings. Emotions. In the end, just humans. All of them.
"I've had the impression that their devices are pretty complicated," Jared said, scratching his chin thoughtfully. "They probably think we're the simpler ones."
Muggles couldn't have used the gift of magic effectively? "I'm afraid that's a hypothesis that can't be tested," he smiled. "But couldn't muggles think the same of us? That magic runs in our blood, because we couldn't have coped with a life without it?"
"That's quite right, Emily."
Muggles could try to do magic. But actually do it? Nope.
"If they get into a school like ours, they aren't muggles," Jared corrected. "They're muggle-born."
Not that the blood status mattered.
"Right you are, Willow."
Non-magical human. That summed it up, pretty nicely.
Jared grinned. "Have you looked at their non-fiction output? It'd make you believe they all want to be physicists and doctors and actors and a dozen other muggle things."
"Perfectly right," Jared said. The most complete definitions so far.
"Muggles?" Jared asked pleasantly. Muggles or muggle talk? He'd like to know that.
Yes. Really.
"And muggles do?" Want to run headfirst into the flailing branches of the Whomping Willow? Jared doubted that.
Jared raised an eyebrow.
"Yes?"
Jared's eyes narrowed. How old were these students, again? Twelve? He could deduct more points, but he doubted that would have an effect on the Gryffindor. Detention?
Jared gave it a moment's thought.
"I want a essay about why it's not a good idea to bring fights into the classroom on my desk first thing tomorrow morning, Joshua."
"You're quite right on all accounts," Jared said quietly. The class seemed to be turning into a muggles-are-fools vs. muggles-are-not discussion. Great. Just great.
"Squibs can't perform magic either, Mafalda," Jared reminded her. "And there are muggles that know of our existence, though -" He nodded - "I agree that most of them are ignorant of it."
Couldn't be more different? Jared gave the Ravenclaw a nod, mildly thoughtful. Time to move away from this topic. He had hoped it wouldn't spiral into this.
But, of course, it had. How could it not?
Ah. Jared grinned.
"Interesting." And it was.
"Nicely said, Sierra."
She had remained neutral despite going into some detail. Which was a relief.
They use what they have?
"Like we do," Jared grinned.
And I'm Lord Voldemort."Muggle-born," Jared corrected mildly.
And?
"But students here study quite a bit for OWLs and NEWTs, if I'm not mistaken?" Jared asked. "And a tough job is a tough job, despite magic. It takes a lot to become, say, an auror or an Unspeakable. What do you think?"
Emotional issues? Now that was a new point. "And how is that?" Jared asked, not unpleasantly.
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"Think of it as you would of a skill. Some people can carry a tune, some people can't." Simple? Simple.
Did he look like he was jumping for joy, having to discuss all of this? "No one person sets the curricula," Jared said, tones neutral.
And the door was unlocked. She was free to leave.
Moving on.
"One can only replenish so much," Jared mused. "Food and money can't be conjured even here."
That didn't make wizards less lazy - in general - than muggles, though. Or was that prejudice on his part?
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"I think that's more of an acquired mindset than an inability to comprehend," Jared said thoughtfully. "You shut off a world to people for so long, they come to believe it doesn't and can't exist. Then you let them see it. They're not going to take kindly to it. Like we wouldn't if we, say, suddenly found out that animals can talk and use magic. Being wary of something that one sees as unnatural is part of a human's instinct and the inbuilt need for self-preservation."
Did that mean the Statue should be abolished? Definitely not. That'd be utter folly. "I believe the difficulty of co-existence has more to do with our current mindsets, than with an inability - on either part - to understand."
"And doesn't the same go for Quidditch?" Jared asked, interested. "Players become too old or unfit, and are replaced."
Students. Hugging. In the classroom.
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Right. Moving on.
Jared would have liked to ask that himself, you know.
"Yes." He paused. Human. "Right enough."
Except that that wasn't much of a definition, and the Ravenclaw probably knew that already.
Okay. "Right," Jared said. "We're moving on." No need to get worked up about the whole issue, right?
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
" Muggles have to pack their clothes for a trip and wizards just have to use the pack charm" Pack" and the wizards can pack their suitcase" Rex answered the professor."Evanesco" would help a witch clean up if she spilled a drink on her blouse or robes in HogWarts" Rex told the professor. " Muggle have to clean their clothes off with a rag, water and soap" Rex said to the professor.
"Perfectly right," Jared said. The most complete definitions so far.
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Luin smiled and then sat back and scribbled down some of her notes, this was a very interesting term, all about Muggles, Muggles, Muggles. She didn't mind, as she had never really had any interactions with them, but her father always told she should try to be nice to everybody first. She thought about the question about different charms, "Professor, there is the Bubble-head Charm. We can swim underwater using that charm for long periods of time without having to go up to the surface to get breath or carry any equipment with us." she remembered hearing about muggles in diving gear, sounded heavy.
"If they get into a school like ours, they aren't muggles," Jared corrected. "They're muggle-born."
Not that the blood status mattered.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Simon looked at the Professor, until they knew they had gotten into school surely they were muggles, they had no idea that magic existed well he didn't until the day he got his letter saying he got into Hogwarts maybe he was the only one that didn't.
Simon was also wondering why there was all this muggle talk where the Professor expecting muggles to find them or something, well if they did that would be cool, but he doubted that would happen, thinking about the next Question Simon put up his hand. "Professor what about Accio?" Simon asked. "That spell comes in useful when we lose something and I'm sure it would be useful to the muggles who are always complaining that they can't find their house keys or car keys." Simon smiled as he thought about something that had happened.
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[COLOR=#8b8386] Jared grinned. "Have you looked at their non-fiction output? It'd make you believe they all want to be physicists and doctors and actors and a dozen other muggle things."
"Well yeah..." the Slytherin lad nodded "But they dont sell as much as fiction, or as fondly remembered." he shrugged. "Also some would say that a good deal of those books listed as non-fiction-- like biographies-- actually has quite a bit of fiction in themselves." Or so says the critics. If Salander was ever caught dead in a bookstore it would most certainly be in the graphic novels area.
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Okay. "Right," Jared said. "We're moving on." No need to get worked up about the whole issue, right?
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Riiight.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"
Up goes his hand again "The lifting spells Professor...." not to mention his favorite "-- Wingardium Leviosa, or Mobiliarbus. Muggles can only carry so many items with so much weight, after that they need some sort of device-- like a cart or heavy machinery-- to make moving heavy objects easier."
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Alex raised his hand. "Well, there's that one charm...I can't remember the name right now," he admitted, blushing as he spoke. Hey, he was only a firstie! That was his excuse. "Where you can blast holes in the wall or through rock, which could be handy if you're stuck in a cave or something. Muggles can't just bash through rock unless they have heavy machinery, like drills," he explained.
Those poor muggles. What if they got trapped in a cave with no way out?! What would they do?!
"OH! Wait, I've remembered!" he said, raising his hand once more even though he had barely put it down in the first place. "It's Defodio, I think." he announced. Yup, he was pretty sure that was the one.
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Nika took out some parchment and her quill and began to jot down the charms that other students had mentioned. She looked at her list so far and raised her hand when she thought of one that wasn't mentioned yet. "Professor, there is the banishing charm. The opposite of the summoning charm. It could save us a lot of time because we wouldn't have to actually walk and put the object away like muggles have to." Nika gave a small hopeful smile. She hoped that she could get back to the professors good side. After having been told to sit down when she went to introduce herself she was a bit disappointed. She couldn't let it go. Nika was the type of person that wanted people to like her.
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"Nicely said, Sierra."
She had remained neutral despite going into some detail. Which was a relief.
"Now that we've established that muggles, like Squibs, cannot perform magic -" Even if the discussion had spiralled into a direction Jared had not intended for it to - "What are some of the charms that help us accomplish things it'd take them far longer to or give them more difficulty? What are some of the things we can do more easily, because of charms?"[/COLOR]
Well, of course her answer was correct. She smiled at the professor but otherwise remained quiet while he responded to all the others. Another muggle discussion... She'd come to this school nearly oblivious to the muggle way of life. Now, after a few months of classes, she was almost an expert on them.
Well, not exactly...but she'd learned a lot.
When the next question was asked, Sierra raised her hand into the air. "The Color Change Charm," she announced. "Let's just say there's a room needing to be painted. A muggle would have to paint the entire thing by hand--all we'd have to do is change it with a quick swish and flick of our wand."
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