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12-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Charmelia Snape aka Zaza | SSFC Discussion topic #8: Snape´s Death
What do you think about Snape´s death? The way a skillful wizard passed away, with no chance to fight back? How did you feel about the way he was killed?
Taxus has suggested this topic awhile ago: Quote:
Originally Posted by Taxus I'd like to know what you think about Snape's death.
Why did he die this way?
A false conclusion.
No curse, but a snake.
In that place where he'd almost been killed by a werewolf.
Last edited by Drusilla Black; 12-31-2008 at 01:39 PM.
Reason: The title
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12-14-2008, 12:46 PM
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I want to start this discussion by writing out the scene in particular. Quote: 'The Elder Wand cannot serve me properly, Severus, because I am not it's true master. The Elder Wand belongs to the wizard who killed it's last owner. You killed Albus Dumbledore. While you live, Severus, the Elder Wand cannot be truly mine.'
'My Lord!' Snape protested, raising his wand.
'It cannot be any other way,' said Voldermort. 'I must master the wand, Severus. Master the wand, and I master Potter at last.'
And Voldermort swiped the air with the Elder Wand. It did nothing to Snape, who for a split second seemed to think he had been reprieved: but then Voldermort's intention came clear. The snake's cage was rolling through the air, and before Snape could do anything more than yell, it had encased him, head and shoulders, and Voldermort spoke in Parseltongue.
'Kill.'
There was a terrible scream. Harry say Snape's face losing the little colour it had left, it whitened as his black eyes widened, as the snake's fangs pierced his neck, as he failed to push the enchanted cage off himself, as his knees gave way, and he fell to the floor. Now I look back at this, I find it highly amusing for Snape to be standing while having the snakes cage over his head and shoulders. I don't know, something about it wants to make me laugh even though this is a serious scene; in which he dies.
He dosen't die instantly, just long enough to have his final wish answered. Quote: 'Look ... at ... me ...' he whispered.
The green eyes found the black, but after a second something in the depths of the dark pair seemed to vanish, leaving them fixed, blank and empty. |
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12-14-2008, 05:15 PM
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I would love to say that Snape somehow managed to survive (much as I would love to say the same for Sirius), but unfortunately I don't think he did.
In retrospect, I find the very idea that Voldemort thought he could become master of the Elder Wand amusing. As we all know by now, he never was the master of that wand nor was Snape, and his death could have and should have been spared. That's what is so tragic about this portion of the book, and why I still find it so difficult to deal with.
Please, if anyone can convince me of any way he survived, do so!
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12-15-2008, 07:49 AM
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I wish I could see how he could have survived after sustaining that type of injury with that ruddy big snake. Its hooked fangs probably tore through either the carotid artery(ies) or jugulars...maybe both. So bleed out brings unconsciousness real fast. And I can assume that he must have struggled against it too, bringing up his pulse and blood pressure... so no, I can't see him surviving. Unless a mediwitch just happened to pass by, and she was a quick assessing/quick acting professional who just knew what to do. but that seems unlikely since the fighting was happening at Hogwarts.
Killing him this way was almost as good (result wise) as using Avada Kedavra. But it seemed unusually cruel for some reason. Why let one of his own die this way as opposed to a quick and pain-free AK? Was he POed because Snape killed Dumbledore instead of Draco? Did he have doubts about Snape's allegiance in those final moments? Or was it one of his delusional moments where he thought that Severus had planned to use the wand against him? The scene was a horror to read in the first place. I had deduced (somewhere in the back of my mind, not really wanting to admit it to myself) that Snape would not survive the final battle, but I thought he would have been blasted away during a pivotal scene inside Hogwarts. ( A bit like Bellatrix got) I was mad at JKR for killing him off this way... but it was a really good twist in the story anyway. I didn't enjoy it like a non-lover of Snape would have enjoyed it. It left a bitter taste in my mouth and tears running down my face. (my hubby was wondering what I was crying about, but I couldn't get myself to tell him.)
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12-17-2008, 05:48 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Charmelia Snape aka Zaza | Quote:
Originally Posted by mmesnape The scene was a horror to read in the first place. I had deduced (somewhere in the back of my mind, not really wanting to admit it to myself) that Snape would not survive the final battle, but I thought he would have been blasted away during a pivotal scene inside Hogwarts. ( A bit like Bellatrix got) I was mad at JKR for killing him off this way... I was sure he would die, too, and of course didn´t want to believe the inevitable.
I am glad I´m not the only person who was angry at JKR about the scene. As a matter of fact I´m not sure whether I have yet forgiven her ... Well, I know, I know, Snape´s her character and she may do what ever she wants with him. But ... I love him *sad tears*
Tears came later, in the Prince chapter, which made me (almost) forgive JK what she had just done. I felt it was unfair to use a snake and not let him to fight back.
On the other hand, I think she had no choice. I bet any other way of trying to kill Snape would have ended up a different way. Such a skillfull wizard is not so easy to kill, especially a wizard with his knowledge of the Dark Arts, not even for the Dark Lord.
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12-22-2008, 10:01 PM
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Once the Dark Lord sets out to kill you, it is inevitable that you die. Harry was the one and only exception. Voldemort, blinded by his inability to understand the simplest things, was bent on being master of the elder wand, he did not for one second stop and consider the possibilities. To him, Snape was his most faithful servant, and he knew that Snape would have accepted death, if he ever chose to give it to him.
Snape, on the other hand, knew his fate, he knew that he could not fight the Dark Lord and win. He knew of the powers the Dark Lord possessed. He knew that it was not his fight, he trusted Dumbledore and he trusted what Dumbledore believed in, that Harry was the only one to finish the Dark Lord.
I think Snape truly loved Lily, and he died when she died. If he hadn't held himself accountable, he had no reason to live. He was living mainly to make up for the mistake he had made years ago. He was living to protect Lily's son. And he knew the time was near, he let himself go, he accepted death. All he ever wanted was to be forgiven by Lily, and when he looked into Harry's eyes, her eyes, he knew he was forgiven.
Although, everyone thinks that scene was imperfect. I think it was the perfect scene for Snape, because you need to truly understand that he let himself go, he never wanted to fight back. We all know what he is capable of!
I think he accepted that his fight was finished, and it was time to move on, just like Dumbledore did!
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01-31-2009, 08:04 AM
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i litterally cried when she killed him off like that.
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02-08-2009, 02:45 AM
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For sure he's dead, and it's really tragic, but he had a beautiful death. He died looking into his love's eyes, and it probably eased his pain. This was how he wanted to die, looking into those eyes.
I think if he hadn't died, we would have thought of him differently. But now that he had died, we start to appreciate all he's done and think of it as more of a tragedy.
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