They might have existed, since Voldemort is around the age of Hagrid and not so young anymore, but if we assume Severus´s father was a muggle (he was the Half Blood Prince, and Eileen Prince was a witch, remember?) he hardly was a Death Eater I think it was said somewhere that Tobias Snape was a muggle ... *runs off to check* At least HP Lexicon says so.

That´s so good about fics: you may imagine anything, even that dead people were alive and such

Funny you mentioned that, Caitlin. I´ve been thinking about Snape´s mother lately, because I ought to write something including her ...

She might have loved Severus very much, because it seems his father was not much worth loving. On the other hand love is blind - or senseless at least; maybe some people find the looks more important than what´s inside one, like Voldy´s mother Merope did - so she might have loved the horrible Tobias despite of what he did.

Eileen might have been so exhausted by all that violence that she didn´t even have any love in her heart to share. But I really hope it isn´t so, because I wouldn´t want our dear Professor to have had a completely loveless childhood. Probably she tried to protect her son and take the worst that came to herself.

An interesting theory. Only that I think they´d have changed the name a little more than dropping one letter off the name ... But let´s assume she were. Might she be one reason for Dumbledore for trusting Snape?

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I´ll have to disagree with that Draco´s childhood-theory, even though it is possible Mr. Malfoy is abusing his family ... I have found more similarities between Harry and Severus´s and then Draco and Sirius´s childhoods. Have to admit most of this is assuming, because of the little information we have. At least both of the latter ones act like spoiled brats, even though one would think Sirius wasn´t. I think he started his rebelling only at his teens, so he had had plenty of time being spoiled brat before that. At least he got the money. As for Severus: he hardly was a spoiled brat, was he?

Yeah, Kazters, I agree with Caitlin. Hangman has been wished by our members, too. Nicole PM´ed me a several weeks ago hoping we would have one. I´ll let you know if I hear about any other wishes.

Heippa, I'm back! :-) My Prof couldn't remember my oral presentation from last term, so now I had to hand in a written paper about it. Silly guy, not taking notes!


One_Less_Then_Molly: I read that theory somewhere, too. It's very interesting. But I can't remember just a single part in the books where both Snape and Madam Pince are in, so nothing to anaylze their behavior around each other....


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Verbal abuse can be just as damaging, if not more so, than physical abuse. The effects of verbal abuse can far outlast the superficial wounds of a beating but I do see the similarities between Snape and Draco. However, I think in Snape's case, his mother took a more victimized stand in regards to the abuse. Like somesaid said before, she had taken in too much trauma to love Snape. While I de believe Snape was loved by his mother, I think she pities herself above anyone else because she was in that relationship first therefore enduring it for longer. Also women in situations like that can side with the father as well, or at least not stand up for their children because of fear. Again, while I do think Snape's mother loved him, I don't think she did all she could to help him or herself. In Draco's case, I think Narcissa fawns over Draco in order to make up for Lucius's cold stance on his child. Draco's in a messed up place because of that but I do think he's a bit more socially adept than Snape is.

As for Madam Pince being Snape's mother, I think that's a stretch. I too would like to see where that idea began because we don't see all that much of her and even less of Snape's mother. The thing is, why would Eileen need to be put in the Wizard Protection Progam in the first place?

Her husband was abusive wasn't he? Wizarding law stuff like that. All that stuff makes for a twisted person.

Thanks Duchess! I've been pulled in so many directions lately that I can't remember what and when. Granted, that hit to the head I took didn't help either! Severus needs to whip me up some of that memory draught...

I guess it´s only that because I´ve hated Draco from the beginning of the first book, I wouldn´t admit any similarities between him and the charrie I love most. So don´t mind my possible over reacting about that matter But I do somehow think Narsissa is not as easily dominated as Eileen. And you have to admit the Malfoys are probably richer and with more power over the society than the Snapes. So there´s probably loads more differences than similarities in their childhoods. I bet Tobias didn´t buy Sevvy and his House mates for example expensive broomsticks, lol!

True, so true. But I do think Tobias also beated his wife and child, even though shouting in a loud voice can also make you shrink into a corner.

I started to think about that same thing ... Why would she need such a program to hide from a muggle husband? Actually makes no sense. Muggles don´t usually notice anything from the wizarding world, unless someone is very careless.


I want to also welcome all the new members welcomed by Jan and Caitlin, so now they are doublewelcomed And if there´s someone not yet welcomed: Welcome!

(^don´t mind if that was crazy, I´ve slept too little, lol!)

She could be in this programm because she might have known Tom Riddle and somehow had something to do with him. I read a fanfic on this subject not too long ago. (she being a clever witch, he in need of her help) But, I think, this is a bit too far fetched for Canon.


Caitlin: good luck with your exams!

That´s why I avoid reading fics ... Even though I´ve started reading one now, and am afraid that I will get confused and think of it as canon, since it happens after the 6th book But why would Eileen Snape be more important than other wizarding folk to be hidden from Voldemort? Sorry, still doesn´t make sense to me.

I really thought you meant she would be hiding from Tobias ... Aren´t such programmes usually to hide from a violent former husband/boyfriend?

Actually, one of the reasons given for why she would need protection was Voldemort. Specifically, that since Snape had turned on Voldemort, anyone in his family would need protection. Tobias had never been brought up in the discussion at all. Ok, now I really need to go and find the original discussion so that this can all be made clearer. I shall return.

That would be awesome. I will still be on about one hour ...