I disagree. I think he changed because Voldemort killed Lily. More out of disgust and hurt and the realisation that the Dark Arts isn't necessarily the answer to all your problems, than a develop of mistrust. Personally, I don't think Snape trusts anyone. Apart from Dumbledore.

I don't think it'd be that weird. We get an exaggerated version of the tensions through Draco/Harry BUT we know for a fact not all Slytherins are evil so some of them may well get along. Slughorn seems the type to do that sort of thing anyway. So regardless, it would probably have been the choice of the teacher.

They're already up there!!!

So maybe he joined at the point at which he found out LV was plotting the demise of the Potter's.

Also, can we trust Dumbledore's word? Consider the situation; Dumbledore was amongst people who could quite easily put Severus back in jail. To say he joined after the downfall would be to compromise his integrity in Snape being reformed. They'd then say "he may just be saying that for convenience."

I assure you, that was merely coincidence.

YES. I've been saying for a while, the introduction of the Unbreakable Vows has to have another significance. I really think that is why Dumbledore was so adament he could trust Snape.

Well, I agree certainly. I think Snape and Dumbledore had agreed to make it look like Snape killed Dumbledore. Or maybe, Dumbledore was just pretending to be dead stiff, and the Phoenix over his grave was actually Dumbledore ---> Maybe Dumbledore's animagus is a Phoenix???? 0_o????

What do you think?

And, I've been wondering for quite a time now - Is Sevvy an animagus?

*Luffs on Sevs*

*Feeds him chclate*

I was also thinking that, if anybody reads Sev ficcies, why not post links to them here????

Love,
~~Jay~~

Merci beaucoup (Thank you very much)
lol - does kind of make sense but it didn't have to be! lol

I never thought about that...I suppose Dumbledore would have done something more than just take his word for it straight away...but an unbreakable vow being broken would end in Snape's death...hmmm...

Oooh that's a great idea. But I still beleiev that Snape killed Dumbledore - whichever side he did it from.

The unbreakable vows have to have another importance. Nothing JKR says ever has relevance for merely one book - we are going to find out more in the 7th...*gets excited again*

When people die in Potterverse, they stay dead. That's my thinking. BUT this isn't the ADFC!

Ohhh a lot of SS fics I've read aren't suitable for this FC. lmao.

If we imagined that Snape is really evil and he tricked DD. Harry told DD about Snape's conversation with Malfoy. If Snape was really evil, he wouldn't tell DD and DD will notice that althought Snape should tell him. I mean..DD waited for Snape to tell him about this conversation. If that didn't happen, then DD will suspect Snape immeaditaly. Why he didn't tell him this conversation. DD is not an idiot. So, We saw that DD trusted Snape until the end. So, Snape told him about his talk with Malfoy. So, Snape is not evil and I think Snape didn't notice Harry eavesdropping at him and Malfoy. Another point, Why Snape told the death eater not to make this Curico cure on Harry when they were running away from the school. He ordered to leave him to Voldemort. Althought the DE wasn't killing him, he was only torturing him. Why he said to him to stop??

I agree.

That could explain why he trusts him so much. But if Snape kills Dumbledore, isn't the vow broken? Perhaps if Snape did it as an act of loyalty to Dumbledore, then it wasn't broken...?

[QUOTE]And, I've been wondering for quite a time now - Is Sevvy an animagus? [/quote] That would be VERY surprising.

Ahah I know, but I still think it's cool.

Yeah me too.

I think at that point he was just mad that Potter called him a coward (quite insulting, since he'd risked his life spying on Voldemort for years, and everything), but Snape's not evil and he knows that they need Potter to defeat the Dark Lord, that's why he didn't want him harmed...

Definitely - Jo's made her feelings very strong about that - she's told us through dumbledore countless times that nothing can bring back the dead - so when Snape killed dumbledore - he killed him.

I really think that Dumbledore knew about Snape and which side he was on by the time Snape killed him - but I guess we'll never really know about that. One things for certain - by the end of the next book, we'll be certain about him...

lol sorry but that made me laugh. Entirely true, but kind of funny if you think about it...

Yes but that's perfect. Having the vow to rely on would have people saying "ah but he's doing that because he has to" but if he turns out good now it won't be because of the vow.

I don't know about fanfics, but here's one. It's about Snape, mainly, which I wrote.

A Flare in the Night: http://snitchseeker.com/vb3/showthread.php?t=32935

I'll agree with you if they made an Avada Kedavra curse but not the Curico cure. I mean he will suffer but after the curse is gone, he will be allright. It won't harm him very very much after the curse stops. It's only a torture at the moment the cure working in him. I think there are another reason.

Yeah that's a good point...

OK, now I'm confused again - have I missed something here? Sorry, but could you explain to me what you mean?

All I want to say that there are another reason for Snape to stop the DE from making the Curico curse to Harry. I know that Snape wanted Harry alive for Voldemort but the Curiso Curse won't kill Harry, it will only torture him and when the curse stops, Harry will be nearly allright. He won't die....So, why Snape just didn't let the DE to torture Harry?? It won't affact that much or prevent Voldemort from facing Harry as the Avada Kedavra Curse will do.. Sorry, My English is bad, I know..

i still dont get why did
snape kill dumbledore i thought he was good
but now after that i think that he is bad.

Your English's very good, don't worry! Believe me, I know how it feels when it's not your first language and you can't express what you think the way you want. By the way, I understand what you mean, and I agree that there could be more...I'll have to re-read that part.

well everyone has different theories of course - but none of us will know for sure until the words come out of JKR - she's the only one who knows the truth...

I think it's looking past the fact that he killed Dumbledore... you have to look at why he did it, and on whose orders. Was it really because he's working for Voldemort that he killed Dumbledore, or did Dumbledore know what was going to happen? I think it was the second... the fight that Dumbledore and Snape have in HBP makes me think that Dumbledore knew and was commanding Snape to kill him when the time came. But really, it's all your choice as to which side Snape is on- just look at both side's points first.

I completely agree!! In my opnion Snape was just doing out of DD's orders especially when we hear that DD and Snape were having an argument I think that DD was trying to get Snape to kill him through the unbreakable vow and that Snape wasn't going to agree but had to accept it and make the unbreakable vow. That's only my opinion.I have no idea why DD and Snape did this.
Anyone got any theories why DD wanted himself dead?

hehe, I think that's so cute! (I didn't make it and don't know who did )

And as far as why DD wanted to die... I think he felt he was getting up there in years and he said once something about death is only the next step for the brave or whatnot... lol I can't remember it right now. But yeah, I think he looked at it as though it was his time to go and died in the hope that he could help harry somehow; maybe he left Harry something? I dunno. Poor Sev's gettin' the bad rap for stuff other people wanted him to do.

That's kinda what I think, that maybe DD felt he was warn out, it says in HBP that he was looking very tired and old and that Harry had never seen DD like that before. I guess we'll have to wait for the 7th Book to find out why.

I don't think he wanted himself to die- he just knew it was neccessary. With DD dead, Harry is truly on his own, which is what needed to happen.

Aww cute pic of Snape!