So I know this club is about Sirius Black, but hear me out I think Regulus has a huge part to do in everything.

For one thing; Regulus *supposedly* destroyed the Horcrux, but he was a mama's boy, how could he turn on his family like that? What I'm thinking is that Sirius proved he could be on the good side, and still do what he believes is right. I think Sirius insipired Regulus to do what he believed was right, not what his mother wanted.

any throughts?

hmmmm, this kinda goes along with what stacey is doing in her ff on regulus. i think u could be right that something might have happened between regulus and sirius that made regulus wake up and smell the coffee as to what moldymort is really like.

*pulls up a chair on this discussion*
*rubs hands together*
*clears throat*

The way that I see Regulus and Sirius before Hogwarts is this....I believe that they were a wee bit closer than they were later on and I believe that Sirius was somewhat closer to his family in general. His parents and their ways were the only things that he knew of until he got to Hogwarts. I am sure that some of his other family members were an influence as well, such as Andromeada.

Once Sirius entered into the great house of Gryffindor, that was it. Everyone had definately turned against him at that point and his mother just became another screaming lady he would have done anything to get away from!!

I believe that Regulus was only a year behind Sirius and that there were times when they would pick on each other at school about as often as Sirius picked on Snape. But in the end, I think that Sirius knew a little more about his brother than what he led on too. I think that he ran into him one last time and that is how he figured out his brother was "in over his head" in Death Eater business!!

What I also believe that that one reason Regulus turned against Voldemort is because Voldie wanted him to kill Sirius. It was one thing to get rid of the muggles and muggle-borns but to kills someone and a family member on top of that, Regulus could not do it. And to keep himself as the good boy, he told him mother who in turn was a little more angry at Sirius for even being on Voldemorts list and placing his brother in even more danger.

I will write more when I can think of more.

WOW STACEY *claps hands*

I do agree, I hadn't seen it exactly that way before. But maybe that was it; as becka said, something must've happened that made him wake up. Maybe Voldy sent Regulus to kill the good guy brother in the Order of the Phoenix, or maybe even torture him for information. No bother can do that to one another, well, in my opinion they can't. So I suppose Regulus learned his lesson and saw the good side of the story..

The reason I say that about Regulus sent to kill Sirius, besides what I said before, is because I believe that Voldie the Baldie wanted Sirius dead, but for what reason I do not know. The only reason I say this is because if you look at the fight at the ministry, Bella was only trying to kill one person, Sirius. With saying that, I believe she was on a mission that was supposed to have happened several years ago. hehehehe!! I think I have analyzed this thing to death!! *pokes brain*

This theory makes a lot of sense to me, but why would they wait that long to kill Sirius? Iknow the Voldy didn't want to truly put himself out in the open, but I'm sure he could have hired several people to get the job done, rather than waiting for a chance to dispose of him.

As much as I like that theory myself, I'm not sure it necessarily had to come to that. From what Sirius told Harry, Regulus was murdered because he had gotten scared of what the Dark Lord actually bid him to do. This could imply many things, tis true, but not particularly having to kill his brother. I reckon Voldemort could have ordered him to finish off someone, maybe someone he knew, and Regulus realized this wasn't what he had bargained for. Or he simply witnessed what Voldemort's circle actually did to people and it scared him off. From that moment on, he probably tried to come up with a solution to get himself out of the Death Eaters' circle - and the best solution could indeed have been destroying one of Voldy's Horcruxes.

I really do hope that Regulus was R.A.B. - if so, almost all his wrongdoings would be cancelled in my book, since I never thought him to be an evil character, but merely a weak and impressionable one. And most importantly, he was a son bent on pleasing his parents at all costs, for whom family heritage and tradition was beyond any possibility of wrong or evil.

Well, I don't think Regulus even believed what he was doing was the right thing, all that time he did Lord Voldemort's Bidding. I believe he was merely doing it to please his parents. Regulus has always struck me like a weak, vulnerable character. I think that he was afraid of his family - Well, not really, more likely afraid of how his family would treat him if he became the goody, goody boy his brother was. So, to make his family support and love him, he joined the Death Eaters.

But there is also the fact that Regulus Black couldn't have been all that good. Because he was sorted in Slytherin - So one can say that he was cunning. But maybe it was his hunger for power that took him to Slytherin. Maybe he joined the death eaters because he wanted power and didn't care what means he had to use to achieve it.

But maybe power was all that Regulus wanted. Maybe he didn't want to murder the innocent. And, maybe, just maybe, there came a point in his life when he actually began to be horrified at what he was doing. So he tried to back out.

Also, Sirius said that he doubted whether Regulus had been important enough to be killed by Voldemort in person. Let's suppose Sirius was wrong. Let's also suppose that Regulus somehow discovered about the Horcruxes. Mr. Voldemort [] found out that Regulus was trying to back out, knew about the horcruxes – And even planned to destroy them. In other words, Voldemort and Regulus became enemies.

What happened next? Regulus went in search if the Horcruxes. He destroyed one just before Voldemort killed him and the Dark Lord [Hey, I'm no Death Eater, I just like the name] never realized what Regulus had actually managed to destroy one of his Horcruxes.

The End. *Yawn*

Maxie

Okay!! Chris just brought up a good topic within the T/F game and I was wondering what everyone's view were since we are on the subject of Regulus and Sirius. Who do you think Stubby Boardman? Do you really think that it was Sirius or do you believe it to be Regulus?

I myself would think it to be Regulus in diguise. I mean by the time this "Stubby Boardman" came about it was the night of Voldemort's downfall with Harry which also means that at this time, Regulus was supposed to be dead...but what if he is not dead and hiding? For all we know, the things that Sirius said about Regulus was what he had heard from somewhere else, right? I totally forgot about ol' Stubby until then!!! Thanks Chris!!!

If Regulos was RAB then I would totaly agree that Sirius must have inspired him somehow. I mean, he saw his brother (Regulos saw Sirius) being happy and not following the thoughts of their awful mother!

He was a deatheater for so short time and Sirius said to Harry that he regreted it cuz it was not all abt the power, Voldemort made them do awful things, and he was not prepared for that cuz I believe he was not a murderer!

So he was Mum's boy, made everything he could to please her but one day he started thinking for his own head and then we see that Sirius is not the inverted black sheep of the family, good blood runs in their veins after all!

"But there is also the fact that Regulus Black couldn't have been all that good. Because he was sorted in Slytherin - So one can say that he was cunning. But maybe it was his hunger for power that took him to Slytherin. Maybe he joined the death eaters because he wanted power and didn't care what means he had to use to achieve it. "

now now, no sterotyping slytherins. not all evil wizards came from slytherin, look at peter.

If it is okay I want to ponder on something for a bit since we are talking about one of my favorite subjects!!!

How do you think that Sirius found out about Regulus' death and that fact that his brother was tired of being a Death Eater?

HMMM, i've been thinking about this for a little bit and i think that maybe Regulus' body was found out in the open by someone and it was reported in the Prophet. He was probably not looking too good as a warning to other death eaters to not cross moldymort. I don't remember sirius stating that he knew that regulus had come back to the good side of the force though, refresh my old memeory.

To think of Sirius's brother as a good guy has given me pause to cosider. I have always thought that RAB was Regulus. I just don't know if he switched sides that close to the end. I think that it would be an interesting turn of events if he was found to be a live in the final book but if that is the case why did Kreacher answer to Harry Potter? Isn't Kreacher suppose to go to the owner of the house with Sirius gone? It being a magical thing wouldn't the house know if there were any survivng Blacks besides Bellatrix and Narcissa?

once i read it i thoguth that it was regulus also...and i've been trying to figure out what the A stood for...and i was reading the HBP 2day and an idea just came to me...his middle name might be Alphard...cause families liked to keep the names in their families ya know...as a middle name...and he was names before Alphard got blasted off of the tree...just a thought