Here is where we will discuss anything and everything towards our loverly Sirius and his addition to the Fanclub Fanfic. We can raise some questions like:

• Do we want to carry on his story and make our own Deathly Hallows and Sirius Black?
• If so, where would you like to leave off?
• What storyline would you like to go with?

Anything that you, a member of the SBFC, would like to see in the story.

Arrgh yes be there a new activity - yes.

Okay my opinion is that we should kinda' start the first chapter off with how it's like behind the veil. Then Sirius should, of course, come back from the death and continue the war with the OotP and the DA.

Oh Emil!! this is a good one to start off with! I was also thinking that we might could have Sirius holding the two-way mirror, maybe trying to call Harry, but we know that the other part of the mirror is broken and in his school chest.

*loves putting everyone's Sirius brains together*

Well I reckon if we wanted to do that, we can always say Harry managed to magically repair that mirror And if we follow that course, we could have umm.. Sirius give some valuable pieces of advice to his godson, maybe.

I like Emil's idea to start behind the veil. Would be interesting to write. Which brings me to the question: Who is going to write this after we decide on a plotline? Are more of us doing it or...

Oh yes, and everyone is welcome to offer any type of opinion on this project. In fact, please do so XD

Well, I definately think Sirius is dead...

Maybe there is some weird limbo/after life story we could write. Maybe he doesn't know he is dead. Maybe the veil leads to limbo or something.....

I don't know.

I think it would be overly contrived if he came back from the dead. I mean, I love Sirius but it just won't happen. You know what I mean? Plus, it could be crippling for Harry if Sirius came back. First he looses his parents, then Cedric dies right before him, then Sirius dies, then Dumbledore... and Dumbledore always told him once someone is dead, they can't come back. I think that would really mess him up.

Also, bringing anyone back from the dead messes with all laws of nature. He wouldn't come back right... you know? Sorry, I'm uber pagan and all that so that to me would be a big bad idea.... anywho...

Perhaps he is in a limbo where he doesn't know he is dead... sort of like... the Sixth Sense but it's the real world and it interacts with him...

Or maybe he is a ghost, but not like the other ghosts... What do you all think?

~Aria~

Yeah, i think it would be cool to say like Sirius was constantly watching Harry and stuff.
We could make it like entirly Sirius helping Harry through the battle, while being dead. hahaha
i think we could still make this work and it would still be really good!!!!

You do have a strong point there. I'm not inclined to think he'd come back necessarily, but who knows? Maybe we can work something around what those Deathly Hallows mean?

Also, I don't think he'd be any type of ghost, but the being stuck in limbo I would see as plausible, we could play around with what the Veil is, what it actually does to one, etc... could be interesting

So basically Sirius would help Harry, but still somehow be dead, yes? Well, we could work with anything, I guess, as long as most of us agree on it

Love the input, guys ^.^

I was thinking that Dobby or someone else could've repaired the mirror with some spellotape and suddenly Sirius would've shown himself. Dobby would of course be terrified, because he still thinks that Sirius is a serial killer. And when Dobby told Harry about it, Harry would keep in contact with Sirius all the time, and this way we could actually play out the Deathly Hallows plot thru Harry eyes, and then finally thru Sirius eyes... just a thought..

About the writing thing, I'd love to write the outline, and then another more skilled writer could supplement with some great grammar and better words XD

Perhaps we could write it in clips of 100 words or something. Maybe we could have a sign-up thread or something. Create a list, then one person could write their piece, then someone else could be assigned a turn and so on. What say you? I would really like this to be a fair process. So everyone gets a turn... *fairness freak*

Hmm.... well, this being the Sirius Black fanclub, we can't actually show anything through Harry's eyes. We have to come from Sirius' perspective. The HPFC will be doing it's own thing (I know, I'm a member. ><)

Okay, so what do we have so far?

Have we agreed on anything?

I think thus far we've got:

--Sirius is in a kind of limbo

--He communicates through the two way mirror

--Harry's end is prepared

-- Sirius will help in a round about way

--Still dead though.

I like the starting from the veil idea and the mirror one too!


maybe Harry would go on talking about how he thinks Siry is trying to contact him but people just think that he juist can't let go of Siry's death and he's just all jittery because Dumbledore just died.


And of course, the return of Sirius means the Return of Snuffles...so sneaky Siry will be seen in human form by Harry first...and the other's will see him in doggy form...and Harry will have this i-told-you-so-nyeh! feeling of pride...


constantly watching... okay, so that will be before he shows himself to Harry, then...


OMG! I just had an idea! maybe when he finally goes to see Harry, he can bring R.A.B. with him [which in our FF] would really be his brother, Regulus!!! And Regulus would definitely be on their side! how's that work for you?

Y-E-S. I love the RAB thing. I think he should certainly play a part.

I'm not sure what kind of contact Sirius should have with Harry. Let's remember that if it were as simple as throwing a mirror into the veil, most dead people would have contact with the living. So, I'm really pretty confused about this. It could work of corse, but I'd like to give it a bit of thought. *thinks*

Okay---I'm kinda-sorta lost. [[Yessh, I know. Big surprise.XD]]

I'm getting bits and pieces about what you people are babbling about but I don't see the bigger picture.

What exactly is this for? Fanclub Fanfic? XD Is it just some random competition?

I know. I may sound completely silly right now. I'm just a tad bit [okay--so maybe alot]] out of the loop because Stacey's post didn't quite make it clear for dumb tard like moi.

So spare me the in-depth stalking and explain?

Tina, this is basically a giant event where every fanclub that wants to participate gets to have it's members collaborate on one giant fanfiction of how DH will go. It's not exactly a competition, but it is. Sort of. I don't know if any of that helped.

Hmm... it sounds like Griffin_girl is saying Sirius actually comes back. I thought we agreed he wouldn't. I definately like the idea that you threw out there though. Sirius could have his brother there and tell Harry that his brother is R.A.B when Harry mentions him.

Also, don't forget this has to be from Sirius' point of view.

~Aria~

But, if we let Siry die, then, how can he have a point of view? is he a ghost now or just some kind of being...that's just there?


okay, so if he is not coming back, then he would be trying to contact Harry through his dreams, the same way he'd contact his brother...and then, Regulus and Harry begin having these same dreams about a place, where they finally meet up. Then Regulus and Harry would experience this sort of connection and feel that Sirius is with them there, somehow...


how's that, then?

We had talked about him being in a place like Limbo. You know? Sort of caught between life and death, but not going anywhere. You know? Like he could go back and forth between worlds, while others who die are passing through.

I like the idea the he contacts Harry through a dream. Maybe that would spur Harry into fixing the mirror.

~Aria~

YES, I like the dream. That sounds more real.

And, yeah, I'm not too sure how we can describe "limbo" Anyone?

Gottt it. Thanks for the clarification. I just needed to be sure. So...anything goes? I think I'm gonna like this event...


Of course! Siry's perspective it is. Although...How is that going to happen if you keep claiming Siry isn't coming back? Sowwie. That just doesn't quite make sense. Or are you referring to him acting as a third-party watching as the events take place? XD



Limbo? You mean like the veil? Or would that be the third-party idea no? I guess that would work. We'd defo have to work on making it a tad bit more creative.


I don't think I like this idea. It just doesn't seem plausible. Siry and James were evil genius' when they were younger---but Siry being able to use the mirror [[wherever he may be]] is kinda asking too much. XD If that idea didn't come up in HBP---I don't think I'll believe if I read anything involving that in DH. XD Find a good reason for that and I might buy into it.


I'm not too fond of this idea either. If we're gonna involve Siry---Having him act as 'guidance' and a 'therapist' for Harry just doesn't seem to click. Maybe it would for Remus but no--Not Siry. If we're gonna involve him, it has to be so that he add to the action. Come on, It's Sirius we're talking about.

Why does the veil have to kill him off? I read your comments earlier. I just don't see why we can't we play with the tweaks and make it work. XD He can go back to wherever after the final battle but...To truly make this a Siry-FC Fanfic...He needs some action.

So---I suck tush. I've pretty much shot down most of all I commented on...And, I'm fresh out of ideas for the night. But honestly---I'll sleep on it and I'll hopefully be back tomorrow with ways to link all of my views and make it work.

Lissy has still won me over with the Time Continuum and Young Siry idea. I'm hoping it wont be a cheat off of that but yeah... I think a twist of that is our best bet to making this work.


Ooooh, as for this...I really think we should collaborate on some of the chapters. Two minds are always better than one. Pull together with the group effort.



Yeah, that's what I asked too. But I do get your point Aria. I just don't like it. I feel as though that would be limiting us a bit too much. Siry just doesn't seem to portray someone who could go with something like that.

I have a feeling we might still end up returning to that idea of yours, Aria. Let's just see if we can look at our other options first.

Oh I do like the idea of contacting Harry through dreams! This does seem more real!

And Tina, I have to agree that Lissy's point of view was awesome! but we don't want to take away her awesome point of view, that's why we are here! *snuggles you and keeps you close by since I never see you*

Well, I know everyone wants him to come back... maybe what we can do is have him be in limbo... I don't know... and get like a pass to the living world for the final battle.

What do you think of that?

But the pass would only last for the entirty of the battle, once that's over, he has to die and he can't let Harry see him. That would be to dibilitating to Harry and tramuatizing. It could distract him from the battle.

It would take place from Sirius' perspective in limbo. We just have to decide what limbo is like. For all we know it could be a blank spance of nothing where he roams around because he didn't just die, he was pushed through the veil. Or maybe it's like the world we live in, but for the dead who can't come back as ghosts but who still have unfinished business.

It all depends on what we want limbo to be like.

I wasn't exactly for the mirror but everyone does like it. You and I agree on that. I still like the dream idea best so yeah... whatever way people can agree on.

And like I said, since we want him to help in a more than round about way, he can get a one time only pass to the world of the living and then after that he dies compeltely but is at peace so he can go to heaven or whatever spiritual belief you lot have. ><


Well, what do you know... I get to your comment about him not staying dead and it looks like we were on the same page about the one time pass to the living world deal. Nice. I agree with a lot of what you said. That is what this area is for brainstorming. Once we have the general idea we can set up the chapters and who writes what...but we definately have our work cut out for us.

Hmm.. yeah, two minds are but let's hope that whoever does get paired together works well together. That's the big thing. So if we do it as two people per chapter then everyone would need to have some way other than PMs to communicate... but now we are all getting ahead of ourselves. XD

Well... then what else? Now you've read the rest of what I've got to say. Any other ideas?? Anything we can agree on??

~Aria~

Oh! Oh! New activity! *ish jumping around*

I likey Emil's idea about Dobby fixing it and going to tell Harry because he's so faithful and could be afraid for Harry's life How about a portrait? I do agree with the fact that making him come back from the dead would scar Harry or at least mess him up, but, maybe a portrait? It might sound lame, I'm not sure XD but it would mean he would not need to return from the dead, and he could still speak to Harry. I do have to admit, it's not exactly part of his character though, to just stay trapped in paintings for eternity just a thought, which I think is going absolutely nowhere I'll return with more CLEAR ideas and earlier than 1am next time

You know, with the portrait, we could work with that as well....such as if the Ministry didn't remove the "Wanted" posters (after they found out he fell through the veil) we could have him move from maybe poster to poster to help out wherever they may be? I know that with the Wanted posters it was just a moving picture but it is all just simply a fanfic.

I have to say that it is a hard thing to bring a character back to life, one that you know passed on *hates saying those words about Sirius*.

Aria - I do like what you said about giving him one more chance, but only for a certain amount of time. It is something that could make a little more since and as far as Harry not seeing him, what if we make it to where no one can see him? This way we are limited to telling from Sirius' point of view and nothing more, no added characters or anything.

Hmm...I like it, but at the same time, it would take away from the conflict.

I'm not sure. Maybe yes, maybe no. I have to think that one through. Let's see what others think.

Now, with the portrait....

I like. We don't want to go overboard with the communication and I wonder... the portraits aren't the people, just an impression left behind, so would the actual person know what the portrait sees?

Hmm... curiouser and curiouser.

~Aria~

Maybe we could write a story about what would have happened if Sirius didn't go to the Department of Mysteries?

That would be interesting. Also might be a bit more work.

Definately a good idea! I like it. Let's see what everyone else thinks. Plus we already have made good head-way into the plot we've started with the details. We will see how it all pans out.

~Aria~