Romance in Deathly Hallows

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

If Harry survives *sighs* why can't you all just take my word that he will? LOL *Ottery still has the sight*

I think it'll be the far future Ginpotter...I mean, you could arguably write a chapter about right after the war right then and there...I mean what would be the point of never letting us know that Ron/Hermione got married... *squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee* you know it's going to happen... *fires the cannons*

Stop picking on D/G Ginpotter *Ottery crying* and I don't know...I guess you're right about Neville needing a girl like Susan...someone like Luna or Hermione would just nag him into submission like his Gran already does... poor Nevs, the last thing that boy needs is more nagging...

It's easy to dismiss H/L now *cringing* Emma convinced me of it...I used to think it was just friendship but...I can see with the whole mistletoe thing were we might have been misled...reread the mistletoe and stop picking on us Dainsie *Ottery runs off crying* I wanted an H/L love affair for a bit...but no "Just Friends" kind of summed it up in HBP...LOL Besides its inarguable there was never any attraction between H/Hr but yet there you have them...and some of them still ship it. *fires the cannons* Besides...Love's Funny, it can sprout anywhere...

and speaking of sprout...jk.

T/L? Don't look at me...I fell for H/L. It was there I tell you, it was always there...LOL my point? Love's funny. It could have gone H/L, I've read a few fics...wrote a few too. But I never thought Tonks was in love with Sirius, all through HBP I thought she felt guilty at his death. Besides which Remus isn't a very open person I can see him hiding his attraction to Tonks, and Tonks...well...let me reread Ootp... I bet you the clues are all there...o_O

Little pink haired werewolf babies...hehehe I wrote one like that...

Hermione/MeWeaslyOCourse, I like your argument for H/G but you have to understand, Harry's a boy *fires the cannons* , and besides, where love is concerned logic has nothing to do with it. Besides, when Ginny runs away from Hogwarts to find Harry and smack some sense into him I think that's going to be her argument, "I was always in trouble you dork. I was beating off Death Eaters every week, and I got tired so I came looking for you" *insert lots of Harry/Ginny smoochies...and to keep Ron from getting angry insert lots of Ron/Hermione smoochies*

And to keep Ottery happy insert... Yeah, no...LOL

As for the revelation...Why does Hermione get to say anything? I think Ron should stop her mid rant with a kiss. Ron's a man of action anyways...*tackleninjaglomps Ron with smoochies* Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiya! He's my hero!

[Lupin Jr]

The thing about Harry/Luna was that they where paired together for the same reason H/Hr and H/G where paired together, you have a boy and a girl. All of the sixlet from the battle at the DoM have been paired together (and I mean everyone! I'm not going to say that couple that makes you all go 'ewww!' but can be made from the sixlet, you all know who I'm talking about). Then JK ended OotP with them connecting on an emotional level and shippers jumped at it.
Personally I never saw it, I always said that H/L had more defense (that is to say it was hard to shoot holes in their theories as there was very little to work with) but didn't have much on the fighting (for the same reason). At the end of the day we saw in HBP that Harry has no interest in Luna, he made it clear to her that they where just friends when he asked her to go to the party, and Luna seems content with friendship. Had JK stated that in OotP it would have saved a few years of debate, but anyway...

[nymphadorarules]

r/hr must get together in this book seeing as to how this will be the last book and all(please jkr enough with the hinting lets see some action). as for ginny and harry frankly i dont see their relationship going anywhere. its pointless if he is gonna die or something. it will only make things more sadder and messier in the end. and as for neveille and luna, they will make a boring couple. luna should be paired up with fred weasley. now that has the makings of an awesome couple!!!!!!! as for lupin and tonks im all for them. i think they are soo cool together. they are perfect for each other. hope they make it to the end without being killed and all!!!!

[EmmaRiddle]

I still think Jo missed out on something with H/L. I understand he had to go through Cho to learn what he doesn't need or want in a woman, but a relationship with Luna prioer to Ginny would've been so much nicer, on both him and us! *sigh* I really think Jo missed out on producing something which could've provided the comic relief and lightness that HBP needed. Harry always seemed too serious. Then he becomes a passionate man and a sap all within a few weeks. It was too rushed at the end, his romance thing, I think it should have been more consistant throughout the book, not just lobbed on at the end.

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

Harry isn't going to die *throws the cannons* Oh forget it...I'll just laugh at you all two years hence like I did at the H/Hr people...*Ottery is still laughing, especially when they say it could still happen*

Like I said, it's easy to pick on H/L now that it hasn't happened *fires the cannons* but it was obviously there more than H/Hr *fires the cannons* mistletoe is not just a coincidental flower *fires the cannons* or is everyone going to tell me the book in book 2 just coincidentally happened to be what it is? *fires the cannons*

And best of all, JUST FRIENDS sums it up pretty clearly...Jo could have just as easily gone on her website and crushed H/L like she did N/L but no she chose to make a point of it in the book *fires the cannons* she didn't seem to think it was too farfetched. *crying over N/L*

Boy/Girl and those aren't the only ships even if they're the only one's I can talk about here are obviously the reason people shipped a certain way. Prior to HBP we were shipping in the dark, but every book brings with it more clarity, so I'm not sorry I shipped H/L or that Ems convinced me, and I have to heartily agree with her, it would have been a lovely ship before H/G and NO I still will have and always will think H/G WAS IT! IS IT! Will FOREVER be IT!

H/G Forever *fires the cannons*

H/L obviously wasn't there, but you can't blame us for thinking it. MISTLETOE isn't just a weed! *fires the cannons & passes out*

Whatever. It didn't, it's gone and I'm sorry it didn't.

By that token, H/G did not happen suddenly. *same old argument* *Fires the cannons* Haven't people been arguing that Ginny always loved Harry? For the love of chocolate *eating pie, offers the shippers* don't worry it's not Pumpkin *fires the cannons* Harry felt his feelings changing throughout the book. And besides, love doesn't always come over a period of time...it was just there one day *fires the cannons* It happens.

If anything I regret about HBP it's that there was not more time or attention put on H/G, that's the books weakness, we don't get to see the moments that Harry and Ginny have together...but you have to remember Harry's state of mind at the time...he's nearing the final hour (as he sees it). The war's begun and he doesn't know what tomorrow will bring...it's a fast love, I mean he doesn't have time to sort out his feelings it either is or isn't, he could die tomorrow in a DE attack especially now that Voldemort is back.

It's sooooooooooooooooooooooooo tragic Harry/Ginny didn't have more time together, I want to cry just thinking about it *crying* *fires the cannons and hides in the smoke* but the point is, it's H/G forever, and they will end up together again and everyone is going to be happy forever. Why? Because I feel it in my heart.

*gives everyone chocolate pie and smoochies and goes to reread HBP.

[redrooster]

I would love to read about Harmony(Harry/Hermione) but I doubt it. Heron(Ron/Hermione) is so there. I will still ship Harmony though. Harry will not end up with Ginny because he is to busy to actually be in a relationship with her. Ginny could end up with Neville because he went to the dance with her, but that doesn't prove a lot. She could also end up with Draco becuase he gets bossed around by Lucius that he may not want to be on the dark side anymore. He had the chance to kill Dumbuldore but Draco Malfoy did not do it. That doesn't prove much either. I will be devestated if Heron thing does go on, but hey if thats the way Mrs. Rowling does well then let it be. (vise versa also).

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

Harmony? Heron? Blast, music and birds...can't we just stick to pies? *starts a pie fight* Mwahahahahaha *ducks the flying pies*

In any event...*sighs* I don't think it's wrong to ship non-canon ships, I've got loads of them, but what is canon is canon. And it's been said Ad infinitum, ad nauseum, ad here call Ottery at... that H/Hr never was is or will be.

*grumbling* And H/L would have made for some nice canon that's all I'm saying... Grrrrrrrrrrrrr

But H/G is the best canon...*fires the cannons* and *sighs* I wanted D/G too...

[OdiSSe]

Forget about H/Hr, forget about H/L, Forget R/L, N/L, N/Hr...

They could all have happened.

But didn't...

And won't....

It may sound very stupid and nonsence but I do believe that there is only one main romance in the series and since the first book (yes since the first book) it's Ron and Hermione.

Yes, I do know H/G is canon as well.

But despite the fact that Harry is the hero, we can say he is not a romance person. Accept this, he won't have time for romance. He didn't have it in the sixth book. It was a little, wasn't it?

I believe that Harry and Ginny is going to get together in the end tough I assume that JK built the romance for the sidekicks.

Well, I feel like I spoke big! *runs*

[Lupin Jr]

Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle

I still think Jo missed out on something with H/L. I understand he had to go through Cho to learn what he doesn't need or want in a woman, but a relationship with Luna prioer to Ginny would've been so much nicer, on both him and us! *sigh* I really think Jo missed out on producing something which could've provided the comic relief and lightness that HBP needed. Harry always seemed too serious.

Well, we did get that. We got the Christmas party with Slughorn, Harry was pleased that he brought Luna with him because she made the evening somewhat entertaining. But it just wouldn't make sense to have a romantic relationship with her, he isn't attracted to her. She is far too outgoing for him and puts him in uncomfortable situations, them going out and and breaking up would only distance them from a beautiful friendship that they have made. I love the Harry/Luna friendship, I loved when Luna said 'it was like having friends'. Awww, she's a darl! *Glomps Luna*

Then he becomes a passionate man and a sap all within a few weeks. It was too rushed at the end, his romance thing, I think it should have been more consistant throughout the book, not just lobbed on at the end.

I don't think it was just lobbed on at the end, smaller moments in PS - GoF, then larger hints in OotP and the first three quarters of HBP where loaded with Harry's attraction to Ginny. The whole point it was rushed because that was the how their relationship was, they could only have bliss for a few short time before being torn apart. Jo wouldn't allow Harry this happiness for too long, it was far too good. He was speaking from his heart and he felt comfortable doing so with Ginny. I thought it was perfect and how I had always planned the H/G relationship, even with Harry pushing her away to protect her from Voldemort.

Harry will not end up with Ginny because he is to busy to actually be in a relationship with her. Ginny could end up with Neville because he went to the dance with her, but that doesn't prove a lot. She could also end up with Draco becuase he gets bossed around by Lucius that he may not want to be on the dark side anymore. He had the chance to kill Dumbuldore but Draco Malfoy did not do it.

I think Ginny will wait for Harry, I wouldn't be too surprised if she has another boyfriend in book seven, but it will only be so that she relises that what she had with Harry was more then a fling. H/G is yet to serve it's purpose in the text.
I don't see Neville/Ginny, afterall in the book (not the movie) the Yule Ball was a disaster for Ginny, he stood on her toes and she ended up with Michael Corner before the night was out. I don't see Draco/Ginny, and if I hear one more "poor Draco is abused by Lucius" theory I think my head will implode. Draco is a prat because he is a prat, he has done evil, cruel things on more then one occassion. He couldn't kill because he is still essentially a child, that doesn't make him good. JK said Draco would not join Harry's side, if anything he will run away out of fear.

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

I don't see Draco/Ginny, and if I hear one more "poor Draco is abused by Lucius" theory I think my head will implode. Draco is a prat because he is a prat, he has done evil, cruel things on more then one occassion.

*LupinJr makes Ottery cry* You're so evil Will. Draco's just misunderstood... *glomps Draco who performs an unforgivable on Ottery* Must ship H/Hr

*Back to shipping reality*

You really think Ginny is going to get another boyfriend in book 7? I don't. Why? She's not...I mean...no. She knows why Harry left, she loves Harry, and they didn't break up. It's not a break up, it's a break that's all.

*LupinJr makes Ottery cry again* Stop saying mean things Will *crying*

I love R/Hr and H/G. I don't understand why some people can't love them both *sighs* but then again Draco isn't evil either and when he and Luna hook up *fires the cannons* you all can see me do the Ottery from being so happy I was right.

And everyone is welcome to their opinions. But I will never ship H/Hr.

*fires the cannons*

[Lupin Jr]

Honestly Ottery, I am so sick of people thinking Draco is good deep down and just needs a girl who understands him. Seriously, Draco isn't Tom Felton, he is a snivelling, slimey prat with an upturned nose who doesn't deserve girls like Hermione, Ginny or Luna. I hear people blame Lucius for his sons actions, Draco may have a warped sense of reality based on his upbringing, but that doesn't make him good. He is still a jerk who doesn't value the life of others, but he is still too innocent to kill, so what? Harry isn't able to kill and he has experienced 100 times what Draco has.
Sorry, I just don't like Draco or Snape, and I've read ahundred bad fan-fics where Draco sercretly writes poetry about his deep emo-like feelings.
*Glomps Ottery* It's alright, you can have D/G, just keep it from canon or I will have to rant some more! If you feel the need to praise a canon character then use Ron. I love Ron.

You really think Ginny is going to get another boyfriend in book 7? I don't. Why? She's not...I mean...no. She knows why Harry left, she loves Harry, and they didn't break up. It's not a break up, it's a break that's all.

Nothing serious, I think that she may go out with someone on the rebound from Harry. Look how many guys she dated to get over her initial crush, it is going to kill her to have to let him go and I think she may turn to another guy for support. But it will only help her relise that what she has with Harry is love.

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

*sniffles* Tom's cute, but yeah, Draco is evil...LOL *sniffles* And Snape is Soooooooooooooooooooo evil. I'll never argue with you there *fires the cannons and hides from Emma*

So Ron's the best ever *fires the cannons* you couldn't ask for a more loyal, and loving friend *fires the cannons* even if he is lazy about school, *shrugs* but then again who isn't *Ottery should be studying for a final right about now*

That's why Hermione and Ron are so perfect for each other, they complement each other...and there's passion in their arguments. *fires the cannons* Mwahahahahaha *Loves love*

*starts to cry again* But noooooooooooooooooooo *glomps Will* Ginny can't be with anybody else. Not ever. *shakes head* No. It's Harry/Ginny Forever, not for book 6 let's take a break and we'll see other people. I think Ginny knows she's in love with Harry...it's Harry who needs to realize, just how in love he is with Ginny. Ginny's already been with other boys, this isn't her first relationship, and Harry's first really was a wash...*Ottery drowns in Cho's tears* A fine fate...*thinking of Katie* Sorry...cannon romance, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I don't want Ginny with another boy. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Harry you're such a dork *smacks Harry* He never should have let her go...but I can totally see Ginny with someone else escorting her at the wedding...maybe give Harry something to think about *starts to cry* but no... it's Harry/Ginny forever... This is worse than H/Hr... *runs out crying*

[Sir Mattio]

Draco may not be evil, but all of our main characters think he is, and none of them would ever go out with him. It's that simple. As for Harry and Ginny, if Harry survives they'll get together. They only semi-broke up because of the war.

[EmmaRiddle]

I meant lobbed on at the end of HBP, not at the end of the series. I see the foreshadowing clearly but a short relationship seemed crueller than it would have been to keep them apart right until the end. I think he should've started seeing Ginny sooner in HBP or not at all. The soppy stuff just didn't sit with me, because it just isn't Harry. To be honest I wanted to wretch. And it was stupidity at the utmost level. "I love you therefore I must leave you" isn't the answer. Harry can pretend all he likes, but if he loves her inside, it won't matter whether they're together or not, Voldemort will go after her. In that respect, Harry needs to grow up and realise separation isn't the answer. Like Dumbledore said in GoF, Voldemort has a talent for spreading discourse but it is only united that they can hope to win. It disappointed me that Harry forgot those words so easily.

[Lupin Jr]

Originally Posted by Marcella_Riddle

I meant lobbed on at the end of HBP, not at the end of the series. I see the foreshadowing clearly but a short relationship seemed crueller than it would have been to keep them apart right until the end. I think he should've started seeing Ginny sooner in HBP or not at all.

Well, I think it needed to take time. I would have been annoyed if Harry had fallen inlove with Ginny and gotten with her a few days later or something like that. She waited five years for him, he had to stew in his emotions for atleast a few months. I was waiting for Harry to put his elbow in the butter dish, that would have been the cherry on the cake. Anyway, JK only gave Harry, and the reader, a "taste" for the H/G relationship. We only really got a few moments of them together, the kiss, the joking around in the common room, Ginny rushing to his side and comforting him after Dumbledore's death, hand holding in the hospital wing, another quick common room moment where she kisses him on the cheek and then the break up. It wasn't really that much when you read it, because it was showing how little time they had together. The restricting of the moments develops the atmosphere for the characters.

The soppy stuff just didn't sit with me, because it just isn't Harry. To be honest I wanted to wretch. And it was stupidity at the utmost level. "I love you therefore I must leave you" isn't the answer.

I think it is Harry, JK wrote it therefore it is Harry. The whole "we could have had weeks, months, maybe even years" speech was to show Harry's growth as a character. From a niave boy who once comedically spluttered out "wannagototheballwimme?" can now open up his heart to a girl and say what he really feels deep down. This shows his maturity and emotional growth.

Harry can pretend all he likes, but if he loves her inside, it won't matter whether they're together or not, Voldemort will go after her. In that respect, Harry needs to grow up and realise separation isn't the answer. Like Dumbledore said in GoF, Voldemort has a talent for spreading discourse but it is only united that they can hope to win. It disappointed me that Harry forgot those words so easily.

Exactly the argument of every H/G shipper around, Emma. The H/G break up means basically nothing. It is mearly there to add drama and a touch of forbidden love in the final book. It will make their seperation harder, it's all about emotional drama (I once ate a llama, I'm a poet and didn't know it, hehehe). Essentially the whole school knows about H/G, Snape knows, Draco knows, we saw Rita Skeeter at DD's funeral with her quick quills, maybe spotting Harry with Ginny? People know about H/G, Voldemort is going to go for her, but Harry believes breaking up with her will make Voldemort think it was just a fling. Not likely, the Death Eaters will relise she was in the Chamber, she went to the Ministry, there has to be something more there. The only people Harry is disadvantaging by breaking up is himself and Ginny.

[OtterySt.Catchpole]

Exactly the argument of every H/G shipper around, Emma.

Will should know he's the captain. *fires the cannons*

The H/G break up means basically nothing. It is mearly there to add drama and a touch of forbidden love in the final book. It will make their seperation harder, it's all about emotional drama (I once ate a llama, I'm a poet and didn't know it, hehehe).

Llama Will? Eeeeeeeeeeeeew. Anyways, It means nothing...and stop calling it a break up, they just took a break *shivers* and it's making their separation very hard *sniffles* at least on me *crying* Oh Harry *smacks Harry* but you have to admit the drama is soooooooooooo good. Besides, if they had stayed together Ginny would have wanted to go with Harry (which isn't to say that she still doesn't want to go with Harry, she might yet, but I think she'll show up at the end and save his naive little bum).
*Narrator in Robert Mitchum voice* Drama it's what's for dinner.
O: Don't you mean Llama?
T: Only in Australia Ottery, only in Australia.

Essentially the whole school knows about H/G, Snape knows, Draco knows, we saw Rita Skeeter at DD's funeral with her quick quills, maybe spotting Harry with Ginny? People know about H/G, Voldemort is going to go for her, but Harry believes breaking up with her will make Voldemort think it was just a fling. Not likely, the Death Eaters will relise she was in the Chamber, she went to the Ministry, there has to be something more there.

Yeah, it's a secret so naturally the whole school knows...*Ottery spreads the gossip* and Neville and Lavender were in a broom closet all afternoon too looking for brooms? I think not. *fires the cannons* Harry's not perfect he has to have his flaws, and caring for people too much is one of them a la Sirius, but nothing bad better come of this *shivers* Harry needs to have his mind free anyways, if he was always worrying about Ginny, wether she's there with him or not, while he's hunting down horcruxes it would be a distraction. He did it as much for himself as for her. But Harry still loves her. He didn't say otherwise and said, if she had asked him he would not have had the strength to leave her. *glomps Harry* and tell me you didn't think it was the saddest thing them not being able to be together? Go on, tell me I'm wrong.

The only people Harry is disadvantaging by breaking up is himself and Ginny.

*ahem* and us H/G shippers *smacks Harry* Silly boy. *sighs* But Love's Funny, and I don't think he's stopped loving her, and I don't think his love is going to die over the course of his quest, it's what's going to keep him going in the moments of direst despair, she's going to be the reason he saves the wizarding world, to get back to the one he loves. He's going to realize she's everything to him...Love is everything. But not before we get a lot of action and DE deaths Mwahahahahahahaha.

[EmmaRiddle]

Thinking breaking up with Ginny will dissuade Voldemort is naieve. How can you call that mature? He can pretend all he likes, it won't help anyone. If anything, it'll only hurt the pair of them. It's like Lupin/Tonks, Harry's being just as silly as Lupin was.

Credit where credit's due though, Harry's acknowledging that Voldemort has an understanding of love that he probably didn't have before. I'm not saying he's a master of it, but he knows in the least that Harry will do anything for the people he loves, even die for them, and Voldemort will try to exploit that 'weakness'.

[HPrulez...]

The 1 that i want to happen most is Ron and Hermione 1.
It has been the most obvious one. So it should be happening...

I think Bill and Fleur's wedding will happen.

I think Lupin and Tonks 1 will last until the end of the story.

I dun think Harry and Ginny 1 will go on...