Love in OotP

[reeta]

*sobs*

i'm a Harry and Ginny shipper. But something about this pic makes me think otherwise.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK OTHERWISE!!!!

I'm going to start to chant harry and ginny under my breath until it comes true. ( joking........i'm not crazy).

they sorta look like they're together.*starts sobbing again*

[EmmaRiddle]

Originally posted by reeta@Apr 29 2004, 06:47 PM
*sobs*

i'm a Harry and Ginny shipper. But something about this pic makes me think otherwise.

I DON'T WANT TO THINK OTHERWISE!!!!

I'm going to start to chant harry and ginny under my breath until it comes true. ( joking........i'm not crazy).

they sorta look like they're together.*starts sobbing again*

If it's any comfort, they're not. We know that clearly from the books, that Hr/H are not together in PoA, partly because Harry's crush on Cho starts in that book.

[Luz]

They dont influence me, but I just bear in mind that JK does comment on how she does allow certain things to be in the films, which dont appear in the books. ie; the CoS hug, the PoA Holding hands etc...

I wish i could sit with J.K and ask her which things are meant to be clues and which are meant to be misleading. Not that she would ever give a straight answer.
My problem with the movies (and since we are in the romance topic then lets talk about love baby) is that those said clues, hints, whatever, depend too much on the kids acting skills and they are too green, and too young to pull off complex forms of let's say UST.
And they might be showing one expresion to the audience while trying to do another. For instance that pic (Hr and H in the snow). Who is to say that Hermione was only meant to smile at Harry, but there in this picture it resulted more into a love struck teen?. I don't trust the movies because the final product has been through so many hands and depends on too many people, and too many people's interpretations.
While in the books i only have to decipher J.K's words, and trust only in what she's saying.
I've always believed Hermione has a crush on Harry, anyone who knows me knows that. But i don't trust the movies enough to take just one picture as proof of what i've believed all along. I prefer to base my belief on what i've gotten from the books so far.

If it's any comfort, they're not. We know that clearly from the books, that Hr/H are not together in PoA, partly because Harry's crush on Cho starts in that book.

See, this is another reason why i refuse to take the movies as proof of anything. Anyone who hasn't read the books might take this picture and get the impresion that Harry and Hermione have something going on, but we all know that in PoA he was totally crushed on Cho. How can i accept it or anything else if i feel like somethings are in clear contradiction to what's written in the books?.

[reeta]

you know i got so caught up in the pic...........i totally forgot that.
(i can be so dense sometimes).

lol..........they're not together..hehehe. thanx Marcella!!!!

[EmmaRiddle]

See, this is another reason why i refuse to take the movies as proof of anything. Anyone who hasn't read the books might take this picture and get the impresion that Harry and Hermione have something going on, but we all know that in PoA he was totally crushed on Cho. How can i accept it or anything else if i feel like somethings are in clear contradiction to what's written in the books?.

But as you said, they're still young kids so sometimes they can misconstrue facial expressions and giving the devastatingly wrong impression. Like that picture.

My mum is a book fan too and when she saw that she suggested that maybe it's just admiration, at what he deals with. *shrug* what does she know, eh? LOL

[Lupin Jr]

Hey, sooo sorry I haven't been on. I have been really busy with school and my old computer burnt out after 10 years. But now I have a new one! It's mega cool! and yes, I am using grammer from the 80's!

Ah, that H/Hr picture, gone are the days when the H/Hr shippers say 'Anything in the movie doesn't count', but now they have these it's apparently the holy grail. I still think it's to show there very sweet platonic love for each other.
Besides, that is very easily taken out of context, lets wait for the end product.

[Crazee]

Ah, that H/Hr picture, gone are the days when the H/Hr shippers say 'Anything in the movie doesn't count', but now they have these it's apparently the holy grail. I still think it's to show there very sweet platonic love for each other.

Lol. Most of what's in the movie doesn't really count as it is not the 'books'. BUT! I just think this pic is cute - even if i was some otehr shipper, i would still think teh same, LOOK AT DAN! And Emma's LOOK!

i can't imagine Hermione snogging anyone in plain view. Ron might, he has no decency, but Hermione is a good girl.

Exactly. Very true. hermione si too loyal - she would not risk her friendship with either harry or Ron. Even if Hr/R do like each other, i doubt that Ermy will be willing to risk the friendship if something was to happen!



Felicia

[Lupin Jr]

Lol. Most of what's in the movie doesn't really count as it is not the 'books'. BUT! I just think this pic is cute - even if i was some otehr shipper, i would still think teh same, LOOK AT DAN! And Emma's LOOK! 

Well, that's just your femine side coming out, isn't it!

Exactly. Very true. hermione si too loyal - she would not risk her friendship with either harry or Ron. Even if Hr/R do like each other, i doubt that Ermy will be willing to risk the friendship if something was to happen!

Then the same can be applied to H/Hr, that's it, case closed, trio romance is not going to happen...
...orange crush is still bobbing up and down on the open sea...

[Crazee]

Well, that's just your femine side coming out, isn't it!

i can't help it - Dan's a hottie. Don't get me started.

Then the same can be applied to H/Hr, that's it, case closed, trio romance is not going to happen...
...orange crush is still bobbing up and down on the open sea...

You don't understand what i was going form that. The Trio wouldn't do anything that would risk their friendship. Full stop.


Felicia

[Lupin Jr]

i can't help it - Dan's a hottie. Don't get me started.

Who am I?
'OMG! Dan is scuh a hototie I wanna marray him and Emmma issss soo cut they should gret 2getta!'

You don't understand what i was going form that. The Trio wouldn't do anything that would risk their friendship. Full stop.

Yeah, and H/Hr would be risking more then the trio, it would be risking there friends and the Weasley's.

[Crazee]

Who am I?
'OMG! Dan is scuh a hototie I wanna marray him and Emmma issss soo cut they should gret 2getta!'

A really CRAZEE fangirl.. But Crazee doesn't write like that!

Yeah, and H/Hr would be risking more then the trio, it would be risking there friends and the Weasley's.

But the Weasley's are considered harry's family. if harry and Ginny got together, it would be risking a whole thing with Ron=wealseys. :/

[KAZ]

erm i think its clear who i ship

emma dont flame me :whisle:

[reeta]

^ haha cool avatar!!!

that's the one that made me sob

[Luz]

But the Weasley's are considered harry's family. if harry and Ginny got together, it would be risking a whole thing with Ron=wealseys.

Frankly i don't think anyone will be risking anything. J.K is not Jane Austen so i sincerely doubt she'll be pulling any of those old sappy, love triangle clichés. If any of the guys gets together with Hermione then the other one will smile, be happy for his friends' happiness, and that's it. HP is not some stupid, pink, romance novel, J.K won't waste valuable time that could be better put to use on developing interesting plot points in some 90210-like lurve story.

erm i think its clear who i ship

Uhmm, i think is pretty clear. Nice avvy

BUT! I just think this pic is cute - even if i was some otehr shipper, i would still think teh same, LOOK AT DAN! And Emma's LOOK!

I really doubt you would think the same, some HR/R-ers, and G/H-ers are pretending this pic doesn't even exist, it's driving them insane (when we all know they'd be doing a happy dance if they had a pic like that of their ship, lol). But now you have a pic of Harry and Hermione making goo goo eyes at eachother, so go ahead, enjoy your pic, god knows you've earned the right :flowersmile:

[Lupin Jr]

Frankly i don't think anyone will be risking anything. J.K is not Jane Austen so i sincerely doubt she'll be pulling any of those old sappy, love triangle clichés. If any of the guys gets together with Hermione then the other one will smile, be happy for his friends' happiness, and that's it. HP is not some stupid, pink, romance novel, J.K won't waste valuable time that could be better put to use on developing interesting plot points in some 90210-like lurve story.

I suppose, but it wouldn't make much sense if H/Hr did happen and Ron smiled, it really would not do justice to his character. That is why if H/Hr did happen JK wouldhave to pull off somthing very romantically cliche for it to work.

I really doubt you would think the same, some HR/R-ers, and G/H-ers are pretending this pic doesn't even exist, it's driving them insane (when we all know they'd be doing a happy dance if they had a pic like that of their ship, lol). But now you have a pic of Harry and Hermione making goo goo eyes at eachother, so go ahead, enjoy your pic, god knows you've earned the right :flowersmile:

Oh, I wonder who this was aimed at.
You see, Luz, these pictures contrdict everything that the H/Hr's have been saying for years. The movies don't count, unless it supports our ship. They are platonic in all pre-OotP, unless there not. See, this makes no sense! That is why I am happy to take JK's words and stamp it with a big red 'platonic'.

[Luz]

:shrugs: Whatever.

[Lupin Jr]

Originally posted by Luz@Apr 30 2004, 08:46 PM

You of all people accusing someone of having double standards, thanks for the laugh. All shippers are like that, Hr/R-ers are the same, they are trying to explain away all the Hr/H pics, but one hand grabbing and Ron and Hermione are getting married, lol.

I have never included information from the movies as evidence for H/G or R/Hr at all, I have when finding other clues but I never use to movie. Why? Because JK isn't there. I can call in the script for a scene like 'Hermione grabs Ron's hand quickly' but it doesn't say 'Harry and Hermione stare into each other's eyes', that comes from the actors chemistry.

ooc: Watch out Luz, it felt like you where getting a bit personal then. Let's not go there.

[Luz]

Originally posted by Lupin Jr@Apr 30 2004, 08:57 PM
ooc: Watch out Luz, it felt like you where getting a bit personal then. Let's not go there.*

Personal where?, i was stating the fact that most shippers use what they need and conveniently forget or rest importance to what works against them, Hr/R-ers do it too. Since you were speaking as if only Hr/H-ers did that. What?, you felt threatened by that too?, now i can't say anything without you threatening me?, what a baby. That's why i came back and edited the post because you are not mature enough to sustain a civilized conversation with. Unfortunately you answered too fast.
I don't know why i bother, i thought we could be adults here and call a truce, but i guess i'll have to go back to ignoring you. Since obviously you are unable of acting like a grown up.

[theaussiebillywig]

I really doubt you would think the same, some HR/R-ers, and G/H-ers are pretending this pic doesn't even exist, it's driving them insane

Too right...it's driving me insane! Except i'm a H/Her!!! I just really wanna know what happens in that scene, and why the two of them are like that! Argh, it's so cute! I'm trying to work out where they are as well, whether it's Hogwarts or Hogsmeade... grrr i wanna see the movie! hehe!

[Lupin Jr]

Originally posted by Luz@Apr 30 2004, 09:02 PM
Personal where?, i was stating the fact that most shippers use what they need and conveniently forget or rest importance to what works against them, Hr/R-ers do it too. Since you were speaking as if only Hr/H-ers did that. What?, you felt threatened by that too?, now i can't say anything without you threatening me?, what a baby. That's why i came back and edited the post because you are not mature enough to sustain a civilized conversation with. Unfortunately you answered too fast.
I don't know why i bother, i thought we could be adults here and call a truce, but i guess i'll have to go back to ignoring you. Since obviously you are unable of acting like a grown up.

*hits head on desk*
That is why I made it a little side comment so you could relise that you may have said somthing you didn't mean to. Not so you would make a big thing about it. Please Luz, stop with the name calling and just take in the critism.
Everyone good? Okay, let's continue...

i was stating the fact that most shippers use what they need and conveniently forget or rest importance to what works against them, Hr/R-ers do it too

Not really, most R/Hr or H/G essays supply reasons why other ships evidences don't work out. I have read well over 50 H/Hr essays in the past year and about 2 of them supplied the R/Hr and H/G evidence but they failed to prove to me how it didn't point to romance in the future. :/

Too right...it's driving me insane! Except i'm a H/Her!!!  I just really wanna know what happens in that scene, and why the two of them are like that! Argh, it's so cute!  I'm trying to work out where they are as well, whether it's Hogwarts or Hogsmeade... grrr i wanna see the movie! hehe!

I think it's after Harry says 'I hope he finds me, cause when he does I'll be ready' and Hermione tries to calm him down so he won't do anything stupid. She does this alot in OotP and it doesn't count as evidence, it's mearly the chemistry between the actors.

[Luz]

Originally posted by theaussiebillywig@Apr 30 2004, 09:04 PM
Too right...it's driving me insane! Except i'm a H/Her!!!* I just really wanna know what happens in that scene, and why the two of them are like that! Argh, it's so cute! I'm trying to work out where they are as well, whether it's Hogwarts or Hogsmeade... grrr i wanna see the movie! hehe!

I think it's the part were Hermione is telling Harry that he shouldn't be in Hogsmeade, it's on pages 198 and 199 in the american edition (paperback).
And i'm also trying to guess why are they like that. I've always had this theory that Hermione has a crush on Harry, maybe the director saw it too?, lol.
Honestly, i have no idea if this look is intentional, or not. Also you should remember that in PoA Harry was pretty taken with Cho, so don't get too excited.

Originally posted by Luz@Apr 30 2004, 09:02 PM
And i'm also trying to guess why are they like that. I've always had this theory that Hermione has a crush on Harry, maybe the director saw it too, lol.

i agree with your theory Luz. although i am a h/hr shipper i thought hermione had a crush on him as well. i didnt think anything about that though until the fourth book. I think you might be right as to why they are together like that in the picture but i guess we will just have to see the movie.*sigh

[Luz]

i agree with your theory Luz. although i am a h/hr shipper i thought hermione had a crush on him as well. i didnt think anything about that though until the fourth book.

Ever since i read PS i've always had this feeling that our dear Hermione is crushed on Harry, there are just too many little things pointing in that direction.

i guess we will just have to see the movie.*sigh

Don't despair, we've waited more than a year, what's a month?. Can you believe it, it's may, ONE MONTH TO GO!!!!!.

[Lupin Jr]

Ever since i read PS i've always had this feeling that our dear Hermione is crushed on Harry, there are just too many little things pointing in that direction.

Looking strictly at the books I do suppose one could come to that conclusion, but the fact that JK has said that there relationship is platonic, we have to see it another way. Whenever people claim to see a H/Hr moment I always look at it as Hermione is being the mother role and it makes a lot more sense. I think people should check it out next time, it's surprising.

Originally posted by Luz@Apr 30 2004, 09:23 PM

Don't despair, we've waited more than a year, what's a month?. Can you believe it, it's may, ONE MONTH TO GO!!!!!.

omg i just realized that now! oh im excited! just a month i think i can make it that long.YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS now umm back to what we were speaking about...*cough...