Love in OotP

[DownWithTheDarkLord]

I may start shipping them too, not just to annoy Will though.

Yeah, not to annoy will, but to annoy Rob? Right? Lol, Joking, joking...

Believe it or not, I wasn't trying to agrravate you.  But then, it's the same as N/L to me, I think both Ginny and Luna are too loud/open/fiercy, whatever other words you might use, to settle with Neville. But then, as a teen, who really actually settles for life with their school bf or gf?

I agree, I dont think Neville could stand that little Weasley temper, or he'd lose his mind trying to understand Luna, so yeah, Hermione makes a good match for him...



Marcella, your the Snivvelus- i mean Severus lover right? (That greasy, no good, git)

[PinkDragons]

Well, which girl are you rooting for then?!

h/g i wouldnt mind h/hr though

Not really, she believes in afterlife and this thought comforts Harry, but logically we can question it. I don't think JK is going to touch to much more on this subject, what with all the religous groups against her and all.

I more or less agree with this, but personally i dont think JK gives a care what the religous groups think of her. I just dont think she'll touch on the subject much more, plus its not like luna and harry have a world of time to talk, its more or less compatable with cho - the only time they really talked was at hogsmade or D.A and we dont know if the D.A will continue so luna and harry dont have alor of time to really get in depth about their loved ones.

To be leader you need to be fast thinking, consentrated, passionate and, pretty much, bossy. Fits Ginny and Harry like two gloves!

Yes excellent.

[DownWithTheDarkLord]

I agree for the most part with you PinkDragons, Except that I will mind h/hr and well, Harry and Luna never really did have time to talk...Maybe for 30 seconds, at the end fo a Da meeting, but thats all befroe the last scene at the end of the book...




I dont see the subject being brought up again, And yes I ship H/G,

[MioneAlterEgo]

I ship H/G too, but I don't think it'll be as easy as all that. I think it's possible Harry may go on a date with or kiss one of the other girls (I think Luna is a more likely candidate than Hermione, though it's impossible to say at this point), however I don't think it would be anything serious. I think Ginny is who he'll end up with at the end of the day, but he's a teenage boy. There are likely to be a couple of other stops along the way.

[Lupin Jr]

Yeah, I think the next person to kiss Harry won't be the confirmed one. I think if Emma is right Harry may kiss Luna mearly because she is the only one understanding him, but once he wakes up and see's that not only Ron and Hermione, but Neville and Ginny understand him more then anyone else, he is going to wish he didn't jump to falling for the comfort.
And I just wanted to post one quote I just read that will end H/Hr for ever...
'When you where best friends with Hermione Granger you spent a lot of time in the library. He enjoyed spending time with her, but it was not the same as Ron.'
If any quote kills that ship, I know it's that one!

But that wouldn't make it balanced. If Harry had broken a bone, it would sound neater. But you have to admit, the pairings sounded neat because they mirrored each other, the character's positions were parrallel. that's what made it fit like a glove to me.

I already said that your view of the injuries and connections are very different and not the only way they can be connected.

[melissarw]

I think that the side discussion of the story of whats behind the veil is really interesting. I think that Rowling will go into detail about it, not because of the conservative religious groups that protest the HP books, but because she has said that more people are going to die. The books are written for kids/young adults and I think she would want to give them hope. I am so off topic...
I am a Ron/Hermione shipper. Actually until I went online the first time I didn't think that there were people that actually thought Hermione would get together with anyone else (Thats just what I saw in the books and I never thought to question it, I'm not belittling anyone's pov.)
I am also a Harry/Ginny shipper, I'm not as sure about this, it just makes sense to me. They look like James/Lilly, I think they share a bond from when he saved her life, and I also think that she still has feelings for him at least. In GoF, when Ron says that They should go to the ball together, Ginny is dissapointed and mad that she already accepted Nevilles invitation, and I don't think that bodes well for N/G
Also Ron seems to think that Harry and Ginny should be together, and since Ron is my favorite character (except for maybe those twins they are killer, and ) never mind scratch that ONE of my favorite characters (I can't really chose) I trust his judgement.
And as for Snape/Tonks I have never thought about it but I would really like for Snape to get someone and get some happiness!! Although I wish that Lupin would find love too :online2long:

[Lupin Jr]

I think Ginny continueing to go with Neville was very mature, she could have so easily nodded and offered to go with him, then ran off and told Neville she was sorry but somthing else came up. It said a lot for her, but notice that Ginny pitied Neville. Need I say more? Besides another connection between the perfection that would be H/G! And even though it is perfect I still think it would be quiet a shock.

[EmmaRiddle]

Yeah, not to annoy will, but to annoy Rob? Right? Lol, Joking, joking...

Who was I on about there, I really cant for the life of me remember!

I agree, I dont think Neville could stand that little Weasley temper, or he'd lose his mind trying to understand Luna, so yeah, Hermione makes a good match for him...

What is with me agreeing with people? First Will, now Rob. :o What is the shipping world coming to? But my point was that Ginny and luna would be annoyed by him, but I can see how they would also annoy Neville in return.

Marcella, your the Snivvelus- i mean Severus lover right? (That greasy, no good, git)

Yes. *puts hands over snapes ears* I dont like him listening to nasty words, might turn him into a DE again

i dont think JK gives a care what the religous groups think of her.

Amen to that. Oh...the irony.

plus its not like luna and harry have a world of time to talk

Quite true but then JK found time for Cho, who, in my eyes, was no good for Harry, then she'll find time for Luna.

Harry and Luna never really did have time to talk

Which is why we'll see them talk again. I'm all for just friends, it's hard enough proving she's worthy of friendship, let alone love from the boy, with some people.

I think Luna is a more likely candidate than Hermione, though it's impossible to say at this point

In reference to a kiss, probably seeing as Hermione is his sister, in JK's eyes, symbolically speaking I mean.

I think if Emma is right Harry may kiss Luna mearly because she is the only one understanding him, but once he wakes up and see's that not only Ron and Hermione, but Neville and Ginny understand him more then anyone else, he is going to wish he didn't jump to falling for the comfort.

You admitted I could be right? :o

But I dont like the 'waking up' comment. Seems as though your giving Luna stick for being original, a non-conformist. They all understand him equally in their own special ways.

I already said that your view of the injuries and connections are very different and not the only way they can be connected.

I wouldn't dream of assuming my is the only way ever but you have to admit, it is one way that works.

And as for Snape/Tonks I have never thought about it but I would really like for Snape to get someone and get some happiness!! Although I wish that Lupin would find love too

Of course, that is in an ideal world and JK isn't creating that. We want the characters we love most to be happy, but alas, I cant see Severus finding happiness in HP. But possibly with me :whisle:

It said a lot for her, but notice that Ginny pitied Neville.

If we're going back into the pity thing, you need to acknowledge that characters pity each other alot. So, there's only certain times it is significant. Pity was significant in H/L's case, but not with Neville and Ginny. Anyone who knows his situation would pity him. If they didn't, they'd be heartless.

[MioneAlterEgo]

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Emma, people are actually agreeing with you, and you're agreeing with other people?! What's the shipping world coming to, indeed!

Some people have brought up a possible Tonks/Snape or Tonks/Lupin pairing. I know Lupin's not a professor any more, but Snape is, and there's a possibility (if anything in the rumor mill can be taken seriously) that either Lupin will return or Tonks will become the new DADA teacher. Which brings me to my question: Do we know if Hogwarts profs are allowed to be married or whatever? None of the profs have been mentioned as having spouses or significant others. This could affect possible pairings!

[loony lupin]

Originally posted by MioneAlterEgo@Apr 22 2004, 01:00 AM
Do we know if Hogwarts profs are allowed to be married or whatever? None of the profs have been mentioned as having spouses or significant others. This could affect possible pairings!

this question was answered by jk in some chat.
she said that yeah, some teachers had spouses. and the reason for this not being known or talked abt is a good one which we would find out in the future.
assuming that they did have spouses.....wouldnt the teacher be at hogwarts all year. so where would the spouse live? separately or with them?
if separate. it would be such a strain on the marriage.

[Crazee]

Alright I'm slightly put of! No one misses me! I've been busy - I'm a global mod and I'm going to make the ebst of it! Emma i have no idea how you can do everyhting at once.

And how come Lupin is agreeing with Emma about the possible H/L kiss? I feel really lost, can someone please summarise the posts or something?

And what's this talk about the teachers having spouses? Rather interesting i have to say.

In reference to a kiss, probably seeing as Hermione is his sister, in JK's eyes, symbolically speaking I mean.

What ever happned to experementing then? lol.

And I just wanted to post one quote I just read that will end H/Hr for ever...
'When you where best friends with Hermione Granger you spent a lot of time in the library. He enjoyed spending time with her, but it was not the same as Ron.'

We know Harry is not as dedicated to education as Hermione is. Harry enjoys spending times with her - but hey what about the library scene? The h/g library scene then? Hermy could've easily been in the library, and with Harry. I don't know what I'm going to....

Quite true but then JK found time for Cho, who, in my eyes, was no good for Harry, then she'll find time for Luna.

Luna will have her time with Harry. JK will HAVE to put it in, Luna holds so much in that little head of hers... Harry needs the info that only Luna may hold.


-Felicia

[Lupin Jr]

Harry and Luna never really did have time to talk

But with that in mind they really did have pleanty of time to talk, but Harry didn't want to talk to her about Sirius. Yes! I said that, care to rebuttle!

If we're going back into the pity thing, you need to acknowledge that characters pity each other alot. So, there's only certain times it is significant. Pity was significant in H/L's case, but not with Neville and Ginny. Anyone who knows his situation would pity him. If they didn't, they'd be heartless.

Ginny didn't find out about Neville's parents until Ron and Hermione did, when she said she was going to the ball with him and not Harry she did it because he asked her firstly.

[EmmaRiddle]

Doth mine eyes deceive me? Emma, people are actually agreeing with you, and you're agreeing with other people?! What's the shipping world coming to, indeed!

Exactly. Shippers rarely ever agree. Maybe we should consdier a different name for this new trend...

Do we know if Hogwarts profs are allowed to be married or whatever? None of the profs have been mentioned as having spouses or significant others. This could affect possible pairings!

JK has said that some Professors do have lives outside of the school. However judging by his commitment to the order, school and feigned one to the DE's, I dont see Snape having a wife and kids. I'd feel safe saying the same for Minerva, Albus and Lupin. However, others like Poppy, possibly do have spouses and/or kids.

if separate. it would be such a strain on the marriage.

Wasn't it Jk who said they have different, more reliable ways of communicating and transport than we know of yet? And what with the ones we know, Floo Powder, probably can be used within the school, so spouses could go home for periods on weekends, in the holidays at easter and christmas and most probably, they'd be 'home', wherever that is, come Summer too.

And how come Lupin is agreeing with Emma about the possible H/L kiss? I feel really lost, can someone please summarise the posts or something?

That was because I said kiss, without a relationship. If it was kiss and a relationship, I'm sure he'd disagree. Get it?

What ever happned to experementing then? lol.

Hermione isn't Lavender, she doesn't seem the experimenting type. Luna does, but I doubt she'd see a kiss as an experiment. That'd make her more weird than she already is! LOL

Luna will have her time with Harry. JK will HAVE to put it in, Luna holds so much in that little head of hers... Harry needs the info that only Luna may hold.

Maybe Harry does, but she'll do it because we need it more than him, to understand Luna and possibly why she is the way she is.

But with that in mind they really did have pleanty of time to talk, but Harry didn't want to talk to her about Sirius. Yes! I said that, care to rebuttle!

Harry didn't want to talk to her about it, fair enough. Another fair comment is that he didn't want to talk about it to anyone else either, so holding that against Luna isn't very nice of you. Leave the poor girl be!

He let her talk, possibly because she's the lesser connected to him and might have had a clearer perspective, I dunno. I just know that him letting her talk seems pretty big. He wouldn't let ANYONE talk about Cedric, and now Sirius had died and he's of far greater importance to him, you'd think he'd react even more drastically. But he didn't, he let Luna of all people talk about him.

Ginny didn't find out about Neville's parents until Ron and Hermione did, when she said she was going to the ball with him and not Harry she did it because he asked her firstly.

I really dont see how that is relevant to the fact that EVERYONE has pitied Neville at some point, so to use that against the ship G/N isn't really plausible because then Neville wouldn't be able to be with any girl who'd ever pitied him and seeing as he's the class fool, I'd say that rules out next to all of them.

[nicole black]

harry and luna
hermione and ron
ginny and malfoy
cho and nobody HAHAHA i think that cho just likes peplo for there fame i know that your thinking cidric wasint fameis but she only started dateing him in GOF becuse he was a school champeon and she only likes harry becuse hes harry

[reeta]

i totally dislike Cho!!!
if you ask me she's so selfish!!!!


oh and about Ginny and Neville. THey don't sound like such a bad couple. But then what about Dean? Where's he stand in all of this? I think he's just a fling.

i also think she told Ron that she and he(dean) were going out just to annoy Ron. That doesn't necessarily mean they're together does it. I mean if your brother decided to tell you who to see and not to see.......or disliked your boyfriends wouldn't you want to irk him a bit more by showing him you could go out with who you choose.......lol........i would.

who knows.................... maybe she said it to get some reaction from Harry too.

[EmmaRiddle]

oh and about Ginny and Neville. THey don't sound like such a bad couple. But then what about Dean? Where's he stand in all of this? I think he's just a fling.

Most of the relationships in Hogwarts are, people forget they're kids and it's just like a normal highschool. Who they're with there, doesn't mean that's who they'll be with for life.

or disliked your boyfriends wouldn't you want to irk him a bit more by showing him you could go out with who you choose.......lol

I dont see Ginny being dishonest like that. I think she is with him, probably because she stills feels rejected from the Harry thing and likes to feel wanted.

who knows.................... maybe she said it to get some reaction from Harry too.

Maybe, but she should know her brother is the jealous type, Harry isn't.

[Luz]

harry and luna

I'm all for Harry dying miserable and alone (i love tragedy), nothing beats a dark, brooding hero. But Harry/Luna would be cool, i don't think it'll happen, i just get the feeling Harry won't get together with anyone, and since he's gonna die an early death, there won't be time for a girlfriend.
But if he gets with someone (which i don't think will happen, but never say never), Luna is the only one who has that something, she is special, and J.K has singled her out, by letting her come unhurt in the MoM, and letting her be the only one Harry would talk to about Sirius. The are other girls, but they are kind of washed up, uninteresting, bland characters.
Hermione is another special female character, but i don't think she'll end up with Harry, and i don't want her to anyway, he takes her for granted, which is why i wouldn't want to see her with Ron either, i like her and i want to see her with someone who doesn't treat her like crap.

ginny and malfoy

Isn't it like too corny?, plus they practicaly don't know eachother, and i doubt Ginny figures in Malfoy's radar. And a powerful reason Malfoy would never get together with her: "ewww!, she is like poor!", lol.

cho and nobody HAHAHA i think that cho just likes peplo for there fame i know that your thinking cidric wasint fameis but she only started dateing him in GOF becuse he was a school champeon and she only likes harry becuse hes harry

I was gonna jump at your throat for talking like this about a character, lol, but then i realised you were talking about Cho, and that i agree with you on that. I don't know where, because i looked it over in the books and proof of this is nowhere to be seen. But Cho just has this aura of shallowness.

[EmmaRiddle]

But if he gets with someone (which i don't think will happen, but never say never), Luna is the only one who has that something, she is special, and J.K has singled her out, by letting her come unhurt in the MoM, and letting her be the only one Harry would talk to about Sirius.

Which is why I like her and defend her so much. Even if she doesn't end up with Harry, I think she's going to be a great help to him. And possibly he may be a help to her in return. I agree with Will, that she would be wasted as just Harry's girlfriend, but I can see how Harry might end up kissing her, because she will have comforted and helped him deal with Sirius' passing and with learning to live after you've lost someone of so much significance to you.

[MioneAlterEgo]

Originally posted by Marcella_Riddle@Apr 22 2004, 02:17 PM

Which is why I like her and defend her so much. Even if she doesn't end up with Harry, I think she's going to be a great help to him. And possibly he may be a help to her in return. I agree with Will, that she would be wasted as just Harry's girlfriend, but I can see how Harry might end up kissing her, because she will have comforted and helped him deal with Sirius' passing and with learning to live after you've lost someone of so much significance to you.

Agreed. I don't think Luna is who Harry will ultimately end up with (as in, be with for the rest of his life), but I do think there is something going on there that Ms. Rowling has yet to let us in on. Ms. Lovegood has some part to play yet in this!

I still like Luna & Neville together. I think her quirkiness (and her willingness to forgive the "quirks" of others) would help bring him out of himself a bit, let him know it's okay to be himself. And I think Neville (in contrast to, say, Ron) would really appreciate Luna as a person rather than writing her off as "Loony" Lovegood.

[EmmaRiddle]

I stick with what I've said before. I think Neville, like Ron, is far too intmidated by Luna to feel like that. For her to be with either of them, she'd have to get to know them properly and they'd have to be open enough to want to get to know her. I dont think neville could be expected to deal with her problems on top of his. Neither could Harry, but Luna and Harry are relatively open people, they can talk about death. Harry will only talk to Luna on this. Neville will only talk to Harry on this. So Luna and Neville most likely wont talk on the matter in a deep and meaningful way.

I dont think Harry will ultimately be with anyone, he's going to die. That's the onlty way Jk could end the series without having a corny relationship for Harry.

[DownWithTheDarkLord]

Snape is a git, a filthy evil, ugly greasy slimy git, *starts to sing, just to annoy emma*


Snape is a git, a filthy, greasy, slimy, no good, worthless, stupid GIT!!!

So Luna and Neville most likely wont talk on the matter in a deep and meaningful way.

Neville will soon be more open, I think L/N will touch upon the subject, then stop, then I think they will start getting more in depth... Until they finally have a worthwhile discussion...

[Crazee]

DWTDL your crazee!

I don't like the sound of N/L. If it were to happen who would be wearing the panths in that relationship then? Most likely Luna (sorry neville!).


And I've read it all - understood.

Originally posted by Emma+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Emma)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>That was because I said kiss, without a relationship. If it was kiss and a relationship, I'm sure he'd disagree. Get it?[/b]

So if it was just a kiss...hmm i don't know. A kiss usually leads somewhere, they either get really awkard with each other or it will lead them somewhere.

Originally posted by Emma+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Emma)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Maybe, but she should know her brother is the jealous type, Harry isn't. [/b]

*Claps* Yep. VERY true. Ginny seams to want to do two things,

1. Annoy her brother and
2. Try to make Harry jealous.

But isn't it silly to be 'using' Dean? Even if they're not together, in a way Ginny would still be using him, without him knowing... Now Ginny sounds like a player. Someone said earlier that Dean could easily have been a fling, thust me thinking "Gins a lil player". I mean she has gone of with two guys (presumably) - and the trio? well harry has, ended badly, Hermione's is VERY mysterious, and Ron can't seem to get what he wants! So complicating isn't it?

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I still like Luna & Neville together. I think her quirkiness (and her willingness to forgive the "quirks" of others) would help bring him out of himself a bit, let him know it's okay to be himself. And I think Neville (in contrast to, say, Ron) would really appreciate Luna as a