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Prisoner of Azkaban Harry's 3rd year at Hogwarts - he's escaped.

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Old 07-26-2006, 09:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In the 3rd book at the end Dumbledore and Harry have a convorsation after Harry saved Pettigrew's life. Dumbledores says:

"Pettigrew owes his life to you You have sent Voldermort a deputy who is in your debt. When one wizard saves another wizards life it creates a certain bond between them... and i'm much mistaken if Voldermort wants his servant in the debt of Harry Potter...This is magic at its deepest its most impenetrable, Harry. But trust me.. the time may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew's life."

What do you think the significance is of this quote and do you think it will play a role in the 7th book?? I just read it and it seems important what do you guys think??Do you think that Pettigrew will save Harry's life?

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I finished the 3rd and now im on the fourth and at the beginning of the book in the first chapter when Voldermort and Wormtail are in the Riddle house Pettigrew says: "It could be done without Harry Potter, my lord" "My Lord, I do not say this out of concern for the boy, The boy is nothing to me, nothing at all! Although he then says "laying hands on Harry Potter would be so difficult, he is so well protected -" now is he refering to by people which is true or also by magic like from saving Pettigrews life and he's protected because his mother saved his life.. what do you think?
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Old 07-31-2006, 02:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That actually is a really good theory i wonder if something will pop up in the 7th book.
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Old 08-26-2006, 05:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think it will come up in book 7 and maybe Peter will save Harry's life
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Old 09-04-2006, 01:22 AM   #4 (permalink)

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o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o, i think that during that scene, Pettigrew was trying to protect Harry, because of his debt. And covered by saying that he doesn't care for Harry. And I do think that this will play a hge part in the 7th book.
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Old 09-04-2006, 08:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i also think this will pop up in the 7th book but i dont think it will play a big part.
i dont know
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thats a good theory !!!! it will pop up again but i dont no how she will put it mabyhe has to go againest his master in the last battle
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Old 10-10-2006, 04:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I think this is right on target... I think we will have to wait until book 7 to see it played out fully...

Dumbledore describes this as ancient magic that forms a bond between the two. A life debt is a cultural phenomenon in which someone whose life is saved or spared by another becomes indebted or in some way connected to their savior. A life debt sometimes involves servitude, possibly until the indebted can return the favor. It may involve some spiritual or mystical connection between the two.

I wonder what happens if the person chooses not to repay the debt?

Wormtail broke the secert-keeping bond without much of a direct punishment. He chose to live in hiding as a rat - that wasn't forced upon him.

Creating the sceret-keeper charm is complex and similar to an unbreakable bond charm. It enables secret information to be hidden within the soul of the recipient, known as a Secret-Keeper. The information is then irretrievable until and unless the Secret-Keeper chooses to reveal it; not even those who have the secret revealed to them can reveal it to others.

What happens if it is revealed? Wormtail did reveal the information to Voldemort. He betrayed the Potters to Voldemort in order to gain the Dark Lord's favour. Their has to be a consiquence if the person breaks the charm or what would cause them to keep it a secret?
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yep I also wonder when he will pay back his debt...guess it has to be in book 7
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
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i *bet* harry will be saved by wormtail in book 7. it *has* to happen *sometime*.
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Old 11-16-2006, 04:35 AM   #10 (permalink)
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OOOHH never thought of ,its cool .he might be important.but just have to wait till the seventh book
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:51 PM   #11 (permalink)
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yeah but i think peters cowardice is going to over take him he's too much of a coard to help harry he revels in self love far too much
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:26 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I think Peter will save Harry in the 7th book, as a way to pay off what he did to Lily and James, although he can never truly be forgiven, this is a step to becoming good...
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Thats a good find because for JKR to put something like that in the books would be an enormous blunder on her behalf to forget about it. It looks like its pretty safe to presume that its going to come up, she cant make a statement like that and not follow it up. Seeing as we haven't heard anymore about it yet its got to play a part in Deathly Hallows. Maybe Peter will sacrifice his life to save Harry's, maybe a bit extreme and too honourable for Pater but who knows, guess we'll have to wait...
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Old 04-28-2007, 05:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Well,that's a nice theory.It will also be a good ending for DEATHLY HALLOWS.
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:17 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Peter only returned to Voldemort of of fear. (Duh!)
I think he knows of the debt he owes Harry. JKR said that it would come into action in the DH. It constitues a magical binding- he has to save Harry's life.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yes, I believe it will play a role in DH as well. But I highly doubt Wormtail will go against You-Know-Who. Like what was said earlier, he's a straight coward. Although...he does choose life ever single time...hmmm...I don't know. I can't wait to see how this might play out in Deathly Hollows!
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He must repay his debt! Harry saved his life from Sirius in book 3. I think Jo would give prior consideration for that save in book 7!
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Pettigrew died for Harry. That was him repaying the debt.
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It definitely played a role in DH. But not the way Dumbledore stated. Pettigrew didn't die FOR Harry. He died because he was trying to kill Harry and made the mistake of hesitating for a split second. That was all it took. Voldemort knew of his debt to Harry, and he made sure Pettigrew paid for any transgressions about killing him. And when Harry brought up Pettigrew's life debt, and Pettigrew hesitated, that's when Voldemort trapped him with the silver hand Voldemort made for Pettigrew.
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I think it was dissapointing how he "repaid" it.I thought Peter would really help him and that it would be more important,not the short paragraphs that it happened. It really should have been more important.
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I think Peter pettigrew's debt to Harry will be shown in deathly hallows.
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It is called a life debt and it chains to wizards together. The wizard who has been saved can not kill the other and will try to repay the debt as soon as possible to free themselves from the feeling of guilt that you can not help them.
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This actually does have to do with some thing is the 7th book. In the 4th book, Voldy makes Wormtail a steel hand that can crush anything. But in the 7th book, when Harry and Ron are trapped in the Malfoys' dungeon, Wormtail comes to check on them. They try to tackle him, but he grabs Harry's throat. Harry says something like "Don't forget, Wormtail, I saved your life. Do you want to do this?" Then Wormtail's grip slackens and Harry escapes. Then Wormtail's hand magically tuns to his own throat. Wormtail ends up killing himself.
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It's shown in the last book.
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