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| | Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) Do you like the new director? Thought the film was wicked good? Your opinions are wanted in here! |
01-24-2006, 05:15 AM
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| LPFC Pressie Runespoor
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okay, in one of the books it says something like:"you are not to use magic in the presence of muggles!" close enough, but i know it wasn't jsut like that.... that's why harry got in trouble fot the patronus, because he did it in a muggle neighborhood where a number of muggles could see, and it was in front of Dudley...
IckleRonnyPrefectLuvrr: Hermy fixed Harry's glasses on the train, where no one BUT wizards was around, at least in the movie... i think in the book, didn't Arthur Weasley fix Harry's glasses in Diagon Alley? Yes, i think Arthur did, not hermione
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03-23-2006, 03:44 PM
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| Well, I always thought that students cannot perform any kind of magic in the Muggle World so I was a bit surprised. But if they could perfom spells which don't hurt anyone... so why they can't use it for... I dunno... some little useful things which are helped by magic while they're at Hogwarts... |
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04-24-2006, 11:17 AM
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that is weird.
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04-24-2006, 11:24 AM
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Sion {Logan} Jetza Department of Mysteries | ♥ Mrs. Itachi Uchiha™ & MAJNOO! : Bleach & Kyo & Natsume ♥ [ Maxh!Jesh ] Although I believe that this was another of Rowling's tiny mistakes - every writer accidentally makes a mistake - I also happen to think that this [i[might[/i], just might not be counted as breaking Wizarding law, because: - Harry was not in the presence of A Muggle.
- He could persuade Muggle that he had been using a flashlight.
- And the Ministry might even understand that he [u[could[/u[ not do his Homework otherwise.
But then, it could be a mistake after all, you know.
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07-03-2006, 01:51 AM
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| | Crup
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yes, i noticed this too. he's not allowed to do majic. an obvious mistake, although maybe they just wanted a good begining like how harry's wand shines really bright and the movie starts.
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07-28-2006, 02:58 PM
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| | Bundimun
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Although he's not allowed to do magic he was doing it in secret or trying to so maybe that's why it wasn't noticable. It was out in public or a big huge spell or something unlike the aunt marge incident so perhaps that's why he didn't get in trouble even though he did break the law but hey he wants to learn new spells over the summer and who hasn't.
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12-10-2006, 06:42 PM
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Brooke Granger Sixth Year | Quote:
Originally Posted by Adyna Laurent The law isn't upheld though. JK said on her site even Lily was prone to disobeying it and even Fudge said they don't lock kids up for doing spells.
The Statute of Secrecy is designed to keep muggles from knowing of magical existance. Performing a spell in his bedroom isn't breaking that law because it's not in a muggles prescence whereas the patronus in OotP was in front of Dudley and that's why they came down like a ton of bricks on him. Yeah
I agree. Plus if it was homework, he was probably allowed to do it.
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12-22-2006, 10:14 PM
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| | Gnome
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i was thinking the exact same thing. he got in trouble for "making the cake float" in CoS. but now he's doing Luminous. i dont get how he wouldnt get in trouble for that.
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03-03-2007, 03:41 PM
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| | Bundimun
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if the ministry didn't send a letter out to him right after he used it. why did they in his second year, when Dobby used the hovering charm??
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10-14-2007, 04:21 PM
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| | Bicorn
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It's a pretty good point... but I mean, the ministry didn't like properly punish him for blowing up Aunt Marge by accident, like he said, "The Ministry doesn't send people to Azkaban for blowing up their aunts!"
Also I don't think something as small as using a spell for a light is that criminal.
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11-18-2007, 01:01 AM
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| | Jobberknoll
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still plot holes.... it is full of plotholes
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11-18-2007, 02:17 PM
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11-19-2007, 05:56 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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I am so glad you agree with me
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01-10-2008, 10:41 PM
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| | Ghoul
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Luke Winters Sixth Year | I got really mad over this. PoA is my favorite movie, but Alfonso should know enough to follow the most important rule in the series! There's no explanation for it, purely a director's, and/or writer's, mistake!
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02-23-2008, 11:39 PM
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| | Mooncalf
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i noticed that to. but look at the wired haired director, alfonso. he did a horrible job. they didn't even wear uniforms in the whole movie.
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06-30-2008, 11:59 PM
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| | Jarvey
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I think him not being allowed to do magic refers to doing magic on muggles. I dont think its wrong to do magic to get his work done.
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03-27-2009, 08:21 PM
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| | Doxy
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No, this is a mistake by the creators of the movie. Young Witches/wizards aren't to do any magic at all until they are 17.
Think people, one of the Weasley twins said "I always hope they forget to give us these" when they had the letter telling them not to do magic. Now, when do the Weasley's come into contact with muggles? Never. So why would the school even give the letters to them?
Also, when the Weasley twins turn of age they start to do magic out of school for the first time.
It's a mistake by the film.
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01-08-2010, 04:03 PM
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| | Ramora
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You know, I had questions about that, too. But I think they were trying to show that Harry wanted to practice his homework but couldn't do it out in the open. Sometimes they have to break some canon rules in the movies to illustrate for the audience who hasn't read all the books, and isn't a fan of the series beyond the movies.
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08-23-2010, 10:49 PM
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| | Puffskein
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Maybe the school informed the ministry that it's school buisness.
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01-31-2011, 01:30 AM
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| | Puffskein
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Cait Callahan First Year | Im not sure lumos counts to that because he used it in OOTP around the sae time he used the patronus charm and it wasnt ever mentioned in his hearing or in the letter or anything. Its probably because lumos really can't hurt anyone and I'm sure it would be easy for a wizard to just say their wand was just a stick that was on fire or something. |
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01-31-2011, 01:33 AM
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I was confused on that too. The law states that students under the age of seventeen are not allowed to do magic out of school. If it meant, more serious magic, and didn't include simple spells, then it should say so. I don't think Harry should be able to do Lumos.
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07-28-2011, 02:09 PM
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| | Plimpy
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Lumos doesn't count I don't think.
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08-23-2011, 04:35 PM
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| | Demiguise
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Well, he was practicing it in his homework, so it wouldn't be bad.....would it?
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09-24-2011, 04:50 PM
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| | Hinkypunk
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I agree.
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