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05-04-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blonder_than_u It seemed to me that Lily and James's relationship was an impending crush, where they seem almost fated to be together. I know my self that sometimes in "impending" crushes the girl or guy pretends not to like the other person. And who knows it might be something like a Freudian Slip, where they were fighting and Lily/James yelled "I LOVE YOU" instead of "I Hate You". (this kind of thing does happen, studied them in Psychology this past semester). I also think that Lily and James's actions somewhat mirror that of both Ron and Hermiones, and Harry and Ginny's. In Ron and Hermione's case its the constant fighting and bickering, which Lily and James had from the start. And in Harry and Ginny's case, its the flip of Lily and James's, this being that Harry didn't know he had feelings for Ginny or didn't develop them until he was nearly in 7th year, and its also the mirror image because James liked Lily for a long time, and Ginny in this case like Harry for a long while (since first year). Credit for this topic goes to blonder_than_u.
Okay so this discussion thread is not to stray beyond reason away from the thoughts of whether the Lily/James Relationship was anything more than an impending crush or denial. Please keep conversation short and stay on topic.
I felt out other discussion was dying, just about everyone's said all they had to say on that matter, perhaps this one is more popular. Remember: All SS rules apply here, be kind to everyone's opinions and posts, they are entitled to state their own thoughts without getting their heads bit off!!! Be nice and treat everyone with respect, follow the rules, or I might delete your posts.
Now lets get talking about their relationship!!!
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05-04-2008, 03:14 PM
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I believe Ginny represents Lily >.<. I cant help it. Seriously, with the way Rowling describes the red hair, its obviously hinting.
Myself. I believe the relationship stirred thanks to the lovely Severus, Lily wanted to get back at Snape. She didnt realise Snape loved her though, she hung out with James just to hurt him, but fell in love with James.
Something along those ideas?
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05-09-2008, 02:16 AM
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Honestly I think that Lily maybe even enjoyed James picking on her because he was an attractive boy, and deep down, all girls like attention from cute boys. This was kind of an impending crush, I think just because of how they act toward each other... While I'm sure she didn't enjoy some of the stuff James did, Snape was her best friend and she just COULDN'T like her best friend... it's too awkward when that stuff happens...
I think it was more of an "I want to hate you but I can't" thing for Lily towards James.
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05-18-2008, 02:58 PM
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Hm... I disagree in a way. I think that Lily didn't like James at first because of how he was acting to Severus. However I think that when Severus called Lily a mudblood, Lily realised that he cared more about his new Slytherin friends, then her. And then I think she realised how much James had changed in looks, and started to fall for him then. | |
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05-23-2008, 12:03 AM
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So do you think she was more attracted to his looks than his personality? Surely this was the truth, at least at first, but when she really got interested in him and began dating, was it only the looks or personality, do you think?
I think that Snape calling her 'mudblood' did help some in making her like James more, but I'm not really sure how much, if it was a major factor or only a minor factor...
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07-10-2008, 07:03 PM
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I think myself that Lilly always liked James from the minuite she saw James but there was a barrior ; Severous. She had grown up hearing about the wizarding world through Snapes eye what Snape said was better was better for her. And as time went along James and the maurderours started bullying Severous and Lilly liked James but didn`t show it and pretended to be angry.
Then Snape showed his true colours that he didn`t really care about the world and was just as selfish as James. Then James probly saw his chance and stopped bullying Snape in frount of Lilly and Lilly couldn`t find a reason to hate him anymore so walla! They got together.
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I do think it was because Snape was suddenly not so nice to her that she turned to James. When someone like James is always telling you that he loves you and begging you to go out with him, if something bad happens like with Snape, then I think Lily was willing to risk trying to like James. James probably felt like a safer bet compared to Snape. And then, eventually, she actually did grow to appreciate how James felt about her.
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08-12-2008, 10:20 PM
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I think that Lily had liked Severus alot, but she hated the dark arts too much, and since Sev's interest in the dark arts overcame his love for her, she decided to move on. And James was always there for her so she grew to love him.
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08-14-2008, 06:50 AM
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Yeah, I think that she was having a hard time chosing which one to like, but as it was safer (in her eyes) to be with some one with a sense of humor rather than an interest in the Dark Arts, James won Lily's love over Snape.
If Snape hadn't been... Snape, and a follower of the Dark Arts, then Lily totally would have gone for him, unless the whole 'awkward best friend' thing was going on...
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08-22-2008, 10:55 PM
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So, now that we have a new president, what are his thoughts on the Lily/James relationship and how did Snape fit in???
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09-06-2008, 07:32 PM
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I think that if Snape had not been so interested in the Dark Arts, maybe Lily would have fallen in love with him, because she had pleaded with him to give it up, and she was really sincere towards him. If it wasn't for James, she might have, but James had loved her from the beginning, that's not easy to ignore.
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09-20-2008, 06:31 PM
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Exactly. I mean... There's nothing to say she ever did love Snape like that anyways, because they were best friends, and that's something that she wouldn't want to destroy by dating and if that didn't work out... well then it'd just be awkward.
But it is hard to ignore someone who loves you for 7 years. Especially when the alternative person is into the Dark Arts which you are totally against...
Poor Lily. Having to make such a horrible choice....
I think she made the better choice tho. 
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I agree totally, although Severus regretted choosing the dark arts, he did choose that. So, Lily was right to choose James, she chose what she believed in, not what was an easier choice.
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But how much did he really regret it?
He could have been less into it and tried to get out before he got too deep if he ever really thought he had a chance with Lily.
But he didn't, and instead he just kept getting deeper and deeper into the Dark Arts until Lily was dead, and then there was nothing to stop him from continuing his path of growing more attached to the Dark Arts.
Tho yes, Lily did make a choice that went with her own morals, rather than completely against them.
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Yes, you're right, he didn't realise what he was into until her life was in danger, but she had made the best choice and I think she was much happier with James.
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10-30-2008, 07:50 PM
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Also, for the plot..Lily could never have shosen Severus..because then there would be no Harry and Voldemort probably wouldn't have been defeated so quickly
I really want to know more about it..like a real prequel, what made her change her mind..
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From what we know, she had never loved Severus, they were just best friends.
And James was a cool guy, any girl would have wanted to be with him, Lily probably did too and didn't want to show her feelings, and he was probably jealous of her hanging out with Sev, that's why he always hexed/cursed Sev whenever he got the chance, but that just annoyed Lily more. What probably pushed her more towards James was probably when Sev started to hang out more with his Death Eaters friends.
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I think Lily looked on Snape as a good friend. I think she liked him in that way, and was probably pretty irritated with James in the beginning for the way he was treating Snape. I think she started falling in love with him the more she knew him, though, and that is the thing which scarred Snape the deepest, the one thing which more than anything has determined the way he ended up. Lily and James may have started as friendship only, or even enemies, but they became something much deeper and more meaningful over time, as we know. I think their love was deep and true.
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I believe this too Linda! ^ I think the only problem with it is Snape was the common example of one friend liking the other and the one who is being liked doesnt see it. Which is really sad for Snape. 
But i still am so happy that James and Lily ended up together. 
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I agree. Lily must have only started to love James after she knew how kind he could be and that he wasn't completely immature and childish on the inside AND the outside... but I think somewhere didn't it say that Snape had already started to head towards the Dark Side, to take up Star Wars here, before they had graduated? If that was so, then the slightest chance that Snape ever had for Lily's love disappeared, and so it wasn't ALL just the 'friend zone' and James that ruined Snape's chance at loving Lily. It was himself. Poor Snape.
I still dislike the bugger tho. 
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That is a good point there! 
Snape really did start to got to the Dark Side a bit early. (  yay Star Wars!). So that was a factor in their seperation of friendship and potentiol relationship.
I disliked him at first but after the last book I felt bad for him.
I just think he went about the whole thing wrong.
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He went about... LIFE wrong, haha!
I disliked him from the start and never stopped disliking him.
Anyways, we should get back on track, this is the Lily/James relationship thread, I believe we have already had one for the Lily/Snape relationship, it should still be open too
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I think that Lily had to let James "grow on her" before she fell in love with him. in other words i think it was a gradual process. It probably didn't help matters that James and his friends were so abrasive!! But I am VERY happy that they ended up together.... they were destined to be together and have Harry | |
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