^ i was talking about the beginning at the Dursley's not the part in the shreiking shack??!!

Maybe the director wanted to make Harry more important than he already is. To show that he isn't just an ordinary wizard, but a very powerfull one.
I think it's a bit exagerated, they shouldn't have changed the effects in the spell.

i noticed something else.
after they got out from the Whomping Willow, Harry and Sirius was standing and talking to each other, and Harry said, "My father wouldn't want his two best friends to become a killer.."
and i went, huh? how could Harry possibly know that Remus Lupin also one of his father's clique? i remember that in the pub, McGonagall precisely mentioned only James and Sirius but no Remus.
If Remus had told Harry, it didn't show in the screen, Remus only said that James has a talent for trouble and that's it, he gave more comments about Harry's mother than about Harry's father.

is we have read the book, so subconciously we knew that Remus, James and Sirius (plus Peter of course) were brest friends, but what if others who didn;t read the book?

I personally think that they left out way too much in the movie, information wise. I understand the fact that they can't put everything in nor please everyone, but it seemed to me that it was teeming ith mistakes, not only the ones you've all mentioned. I also agree with everyone, the wand thing was probably planned and well considered, that Harry in his anger and in using Hermione's wand, probably made much stronger than intended.

well when that happened i just thought that he just disarmed them and then when harry did i thought he meant to point it at snape and that was why snape went flying?
just a theory.....

That's what I feel too

Yeah I agree

something that has bothered me...
in the GoF movie, the locations of things moved. i've seen a die-cast model thing of Hogwarts. It's on a hill, hagrids is halfway down the hill, well, cliff. they added a room onto several of the towers. It just looks funny. The director for the 4th movie made things be in different places. like the owlery, it's supposed to be attached to the school, not like a mile away up a trillion stairs, it's supposed to be inside up a bunch of stairs. and they left out the Skeeter as a bug in a jar part, that was so funny. I know i'm talking about the wrong book, so here goes:
it was just part of the plot. for the story to continue, snape had to be unconsious, otherwise everyone would be wondering why snape didn't do something. it couldn't have been that hard to add Ron and Hermione next to harry, all doing the spell at once. 3 people pointing sticks and shouting can't be any harder than having 1 kid point and shout. but, also, in the book, Sirius in dog form, the big black dog, dragged ron in by his arm, not his leg. and because of that, in the book, ron would still have been able to stand by harry's side and help take down snape. but in the movie, ron couldn't stand by himself, so he wouldn't've been able to help. it was just all part of the plan of the director. to do something, he had to do something else first... just a big complex chain of events and changes that led to a very chopped up movie. but i think that GoF was the worst movie out of all of them, as far as leaving things out goes, they left so much out... *sigh* pathetic

Really a fault, but what to do?
I also think it was a simple mistake.
But now that you mention it: did you notice Snape "flys" **** a lot like that in the books and movies?

I noticed this as well. But, it seems as if the films are straying ever further and staying less true to the books. This is exactly why I love the first to films, because Chris Columbus stayed true to the books. I do suppose it all depends on the director, maybe?

-Kait

spells aern't just about memorizing. i think that how you are feeling at the moment can determine how the spell will turn out.

Lets just face it, the movies are no where near as good as the books, I agree that the first movies were better, but thats because they didn't have as much text to cover. The more recent books just have too much material to fit correctly into one movie.

well it' different than the book said but they may have wanted to make it more on a personal note.

i dunno........but poor severus!

i felt the same way2.

once there was an ugly barnacle. he was so ugly, everyone died. the end.

Me and my friend always have an argument about this... I guess Snape only meant to disarm Sirius, so perhaps there's some way you can put like.... more feeling into the spell to make it stronger? So when Harry pretends to point his wand at Sirius, then goes to Snape, I'm guessing he wanted to stall Snape so he could ask about Pettigrew. That's my view anyway :]

thats a good point!^^^

this has happened in other movies before too.
it depends on the person recieveing the spell and the person giving it.
harry was madder and he put more power into it and snape wasnt really expecting it.
sirius on the other hand, was more tense and ready to fight harry, but snape hit him and his wand just flew out of his hand.
also when more people are involved, its obviously much stronger.

like if you pushed someone without really trying and without anger, nothing would really happen.
but if you were mad and you put force into the push, that person will probably fall.

I dont think that it was a mess up in the movie. If you remember in SS, Olivander tells Harry that the wand chooses the wizard and in the Shrieking Shack on PoA Harry uses Hermiones wand and I think that is why the jinx threw Snapes back because it wasnt Harrys wand.