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| | PoA Do you like the new director? Thought the film was wicked good? Your opinions are wanted in here! | Vote for SS! 
12-07-2004, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by moxi At the beginning of the movie they show Harry muttering a spell(Lumos maxima)...but that is against the law isnīt it...?Or was it said here in this thread before...I just wondered... | The way I see it, it was Homework which he would've needed to do magic to complete.
Like the MoM said, they don't lock up underage wizards for minor spells -- like the warning he got for the cake and his aunt Marge but doing a fully fledged Patronus would attract lots of attention and is advanced magic he shouldn't even be able to do and that's why he gets pulled in for that magic in OotP.
Truth be told, Harry gets away with alot in canon so it's alright for him to do the same in the films. | 
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12-07-2004, 08:24 PM
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ur right, harry should be getting owls from the mom for underage wizardry!! | |
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12-09-2004, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by navya_HPPOA Well,i hope everyone remembers the movie.In the shreiking shack,when sirius was speaking about his dreadful life,snape arrives and shouts "expelliarmus" and sirius gets disarmed without getting blasted off.But after sometime when Snape points the wand at sirius and offers harry to jinx sirius(apparently),harry shouts "expelliarmus" and snape gets knocked off!!How can this be possible according to the books?I mean....a spell should have a same effect irrespctive of time is'nt it?On the contrary....in the novel,harry,ron and hermione disarm Snape at the same moment and as a result snape gets knocked off!!This is a noticable mistake from a HP book reader point of view!!Anyway,what did you guys think about this? | I think the way they made it, depended on where the spell hit. | |
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12-09-2004, 09:08 PM
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It was all because he is young and less experienced in magic and wasn't using his own wand hence spells have slightly different results. That was explained in the books quite clearly. | |
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12-10-2004, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by grimforseer one mistake that really annoyed me about POA was that harry got the firebolt after freeing sirius. Ahh!! it just ****** me off to no end. the viewer didnt get any of the tension that the reader about harry having his top of the line racing broom taken away because people thought it was from sirius black and that it was jinxed. | They really messed that part up. I wanted to see wood go pale when harry tells him it's going to be stripped down.  | |
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12-12-2004, 08:37 PM
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The thing that annoyed me the most in that movie was how they miss spelt Moony's name  . And then did it as a joke because someone called Karl Money worked on the film. Little things annoy me.  | |
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12-14-2004, 03:09 PM
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[quote]Like the MoM said, they don't lock up underage wizards for minor spells\[quote]
Yeah i agree with this,because in some situations Harry used the spell "lumos" even when he was away from Hogwarts.In POA,when Harry comes out of the Dursleys,he sees a giant black dog(Sirius)and lits his own wand...as far as i remember,even in GOF,the trio uses the spell Lumos(i think during that Dark mark scene or something....i dont remember) | |
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12-16-2004, 04:08 PM
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Allright maybe thatīs not a mistake at all but I just wondered...
When Harry and hermione used the Time Turner and got back to the past they were running and passing the fountain in the yard (No one sitting on it) and then they walk on to the bridge...but thatīs strange cause Macnair was sitting there on this fountain shortly before they originally visited Hagrid and buckbeaks execution...Macnair watched them going away in the first place...you know what I mean? | |
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12-17-2004, 10:11 AM
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I dont think that it is a mistake necessarily. I think it could be something that Alfonso wanted to show to the audience as to how spells can have different effects on people. Like someone said before, Harry was obviously very hormonally enraged and his anger seemed to have gotten the better of him and so when he went to disarm Snape, he obviously didnt want to just disarm him, thus he knocked him over. | |
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12-30-2004, 12:27 AM
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I didn't notice that mistake before.
But I must say I'm quite disappointed with the way spells are cast in the movies in general. In film 2, in the duel between Snape and Lockart, Lockart gets knocked off only by an expelliarmus, which is kinda weird. In the duel between Malfoy and Potter, the spells are really screwed up. Rictusempra is supposed to make the foe laugh and all, talentalegra is supposed to make the foe dance, but in the movie it just appears as a flash of light and then the opponent gets knocked off. This is really different from the books.
It could just be a mistake from the film director, or it can be the thing with Harry not controlling his emotions and all. Who knows. | |
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01-09-2005, 12:07 AM
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this is how i look at it... Snape casted Expelliarmus at the wand Sirius was holding and Harry casted Expelliarmus at Snape (not at his wand). | |
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01-09-2005, 03:01 PM
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In the book I do believe taht hermione ron and harry all casted at the same time. but i'm not sure if that could've happened because didn't harry have hermiones wand? | |
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01-09-2005, 03:02 PM
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YEs he was if you look in the corner of the screen he is sitting there. well mcnair was there. i thought that too but about the 10th time I saw the movie I noticed him. | |
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01-09-2005, 06:21 PM
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Yeah I wondered about the Lumos thing in the beginning to. No magic means no magic. But as for Snape getting blasted to the bed. Harry aimed directly at Snapes chest. Snape aimed for Sirius' wand. I would expect Snape to fly to the bed...the spell hit no where near Snape's hand. | |
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01-09-2005, 06:54 PM
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Thank you Chocolat64, I couldn't have said it better. I think the worst mistake is the whole seeing PP in the MM. I think it was a pull from GOF so they didn't have to put that part in. It would look like a remake scene. | |
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01-09-2005, 07:01 PM
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| K.O. of Mr Tennant's specs Banshee
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only harry says expeliarmouse in POA in the shack not Ron or Hermione... | |
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01-26-2005, 04:40 AM
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Harry did aim to Snapes chest but the Expelliarmus is a disarming spell so... | |
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01-26-2005, 02:50 PM
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Well in the Chamber of Secrets book, Snape did the same disarming spell and it knocked Lockhart down as well. I think it really has to do with aim. I don't think Snape was aiming at Lockhart's wand in the second book (or movie) and Harry wasn't aiming for Snape's wand in POA. Hit it right in the middle of his chest. lol | |
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02-08-2005, 01:06 PM
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it wasn't his wand it was hermione's wand | |
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02-19-2005, 01:31 AM
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yeah, right. | |
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03-01-2005, 05:23 PM
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I think it had something to do with Harry being much more powerful than Snape.
I mean, Harry is the only one who will be able to kill Voldemort, so there must be some power that has not been shown yet. Nothing is a coincidence to me. I mean, there are some little things that have been changed, but this isn't so little if it has been caught by all of us, is it? I think that it definitely has something to do with Harry being very powerful and coming into his power more and more every year. | |
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03-29-2005, 11:37 PM
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I see that only a few others have reached the same conclusion that I have. That being...Harry hit Snape in the middle of his chest with the spell, that is why it knocked him down (just like when Snape hit Lockhart in the chest with it).
I will concede to the point that Harry's emotional state probably did contribute to the reasoning for the spell actually knocking Snape unconcious. The fact of the matter is that Harry hit Snape in the chest with that spell, he did not hit his wand. What do you think would happen to someone if you hit them in the chest with a disarming spell? I think that the person would probably be knocked down. 
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03-29-2005, 11:56 PM
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I noticed that too. I thought it was a little weird but I guess they just wanted to show how powerful Harry was as a wizard. I just thought it was stupid... | |
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03-30-2005, 10:24 AM
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It's not a mistake.
Even the books tell you that using someone else's wand can cause adverse effects. And Harry was using Hermione's in this scene!
Plus, it hit him in the chest & he was overly emotional at the time & he's not a full wizard anyhow so his skills aren't properly controlled or mastered. | |
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03-30-2005, 02:06 PM
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yea...i thought they were showing how powerfull harry is too.. | |
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