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09-26-2003, 02:18 AM
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#226 (permalink)
| | Plimpy
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| oooh someone posted earlier that luna was never bruised or hurt coz her parents worked for the deatheaters?... or something like that... but i dont think so, she mentioned in OotP that her father is very much up for activity AGAINST things like the deatheaters and all that. |
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09-26-2003, 03:06 AM
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Location: the attic at the burrow Join Date: Apr 2003
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| yeah look even i tried to look up the number of the vault. i dont think he writes it
so jk hasnt mentioned it. so im thinking its not all dat important if she wont even give us a clue
apart from dat luna- she's very interesting isnt she( duh!  ) but im still very unsure abt her role in book 6 and 7
i dont have anything concrete with which i can say yeah dis is it
i kno im contradicting myself from a few posts earlier but luna's role isn't very clearly defined is it? i kno jk likes to leave things unsaid till the last minute but compared to other new characters introduced in the past luna is very very sketchy |
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09-26-2003, 09:24 AM
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#228 (permalink)
| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| Quote: | sirius is cool (BTW, i like your avatar, you had a really cool one b4 that too | merci! i like yours too!
oooh! if nobody other than voldie can kill harry then my theory about neville killing harry is proven wrong! i never thought about that. but is it, that only them can kill the other?
and yes in the books mars being bright meant that was is upon them. and yes, harry having his moms' eyes is very important j.k said so, and actually we've talked about it some where here, i think we said that since harry has weird dreams (even in book 1) or since when he relaxed and was doing trelawneys' quiz in book 3, he said that he saw buckbeak flying away even though he thought they will probably excute buckbeak, and what he predicted came true, maybe thats his powers taht he got from his mom? i dunno...
and well :wub: ... i thought j.k picked harry to be leo, as in harry is ruler? actually the name harry means leader, or so i read in "meanings of names" book. :wub: |
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09-26-2003, 11:23 AM
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#229 (permalink)
| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| loony lupin, its vault 711
and here are some of the things that i have found in book one:
when hagrid made the photo album, he said he contacted some of harry's parent's old school friends
so that has to be somebody other than Lupin, who were good friends with james and lily.
so we can maybe learn more about them from the other friends?
and the reason that quirell couldnt toutch harry was because his mother died for him, but so you think that neville's or luna's parents might have sacrificed themselves as well so that their children could be safe?
that doesesnt really make sense to me anymore, so moving on...
when he says 'no sooner had i arrived in london than it became clear to me that the place i should be was the place i had just left' well, it doesent say how he knew
he didnt get the owl form hermione, because he came back b4 that and he knew what was happening, cuz it says that when they passed, Dumbledore just said 'harry's gone after him, hasn't he?' but we dont know how he found out, surely nobody in London would know what is going on at hogwarts
so i think this muct be another of his powers, along with being able to turn invisible and his weird apparating thing
okay, that's all i have for now cuz i dont want to bore you guys with them all at once |
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09-27-2003, 01:35 AM
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Location: the attic at the burrow Join Date: Apr 2003
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| so paddy's vault number is 711?
where is it given?
aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh now im all confused
ok i suppose i'll just take ur word for it
i also have changed my opinions abt luna.....i dont think jk mentioned her getting hurt cuz it wasn't relevant to the story line. she talks abt ginny's injuries cuz it leads to the fact dat she gave them some injuries herself and is important cuz this book is abt ginny's developement
n it also highlights luna's image as someone who is 'removed' from things if u kno wat im saying...... |
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09-27-2003, 07:39 AM
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#231 (permalink)
| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| its given at the end of book 3
in his letter
here's some more stuff that i picked up on,
youre probably bored of it by now but anyway...
anybody else noticed that it is mentioned in the books a lot that harry thinks that mrs. norris can see through nvisibility cloaks
why do you think that is mentioned so many times through the series?
and in the chapter Through the Trap Door
it says: 'in years to come Harry would never quite remember how he had managed to get through his exams when he half expected Voldemort to come bursting through the door at any minute.'
so does that mean that there will be years to come and that he wont die?
surely JK would have chosen her words more carefully if she planned to kill him off?
probably stupid, but it says 'Neville would play Quidditch for England before Hagrid lets Dumbledore down.' That's refering to him telling somebody how to get past fluffy,a dn he did. Is this foreshadowing Neville's future?
probably not because he hasn't had very positive experiences on brooms, but still...
another thing
when Harry said 'Voldemort' Ron said and i quote '"stop saying the name!" said Ron in a terrified whisper, as if he thought Voldemort could hear him.'
i think that this proves my theory that that's why nobody says his name, cuz they think he can hear him. And maybe he can.
i said this before, but here are the exact words of what the centuars said about the future
'good luck harry potter, the planets have been read wrongly before, even by centuars, i hope this is one of thise times'
and this is when the other centuars got mad at firenze for saving harry
'remember Firenze, we have sworn not to set ourselves against the heavens. Have you not read what is to come in the movements of the planets.'
and when they first meet the centuars
'always the innocent are the first vistims, so it has been for ages past, so it is now.'
i just think that centuars are interesting... it probably doesent mean too much
yet another longer post, sorry
i wont write anymore now, i dont want to bore you too much at one time |
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09-27-2003, 12:02 PM
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#232 (permalink)
| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| me for ron i luuuuuuuuurve ur long posts!!
i have news:
in the original and first vampire book, dracula by stoker. dracula turns a girl into a vampire, and so her companions to keep her from going berserk, they did something to her. draculas' blood+protection performed by her friends= made a mark across her forehead. and only when dracula died did this mark vanish. though i hope harry keeps his scar, it's pretty cool (on him). and no! stoker didn't get the idea from j.k, he died a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago!
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i was wondering about Mrs. norris too!!! she's so freaky that cat, and j.k never asnwered the question. anyone know or guess who is and where did mrs. norris cme from? could she have been a witch who by some mistake became premenantly a cat? u know cats r weird! thinks crookshanks, think mrs. norris, thing figgs' cats!!! what is up with cats?!? apparently egyptians loved them or smth...i tried looking but i can't find any site about the egyptians believe it or not.*sigh*
oh and i do think that whenever almost anybody says voldemort, voldie can hear them or is connected to them...think bloody mary and candy man. |
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09-27-2003, 12:12 PM
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Location: the attic at the burrow Join Date: Apr 2003
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| Quote: Originally posted by me4ron@Sep 27 2003, 06:39 AM its given at the end of book 3
in his letter
anybody else noticed that it is mentioned in the books a lot that harry thinks that mrs. norris can see through nvisibility cloaks
why do you think that is mentioned so many times through the series?
and in the chapter Through the Trap Door
it says: 'in years to come Harry would never quite remember how he had managed to get through his exams when he half expected Voldemort to come bursting through the door at any minute.'
so does that mean that there will be years to come and that he wont die?
surely JK would have chosen her words more carefully if she planned to kill him off?
another thing
when Harry said 'Voldemort' Ron said and i quote '"stop saying the name!" said Ron in a terrified whisper, as if he thought Voldemort could hear him.'
i think that this proves my theory that that's why nobody says his name, cuz they think he can hear him. And maybe he can. | thanx for clearing dat up mate
n i just think its a figure of speech u kno? dont read too much into it. n there will be years to come even harry will die cuz he'll have to live till the end of the series so there
n also rem how riddle is telling harry.....dat he was using the name volde from skool as well
fashioned a name dat people would FEAR to say one day?
so i mean if it was just put in the movie maybe its a little hint but i think it was in the book as well
but im thinking its actually spell kinda thing- based on fear u kno. like maybe folks still believe dat if they say his name something bad will happen....like oh u kno an urban legend sorta thing. but really cool out there folks like DD n paddy(sob!) say it anyway cuz they know its codswallop |
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09-27-2003, 02:33 PM
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#234 (permalink)
| | Plimpy
Location: ILiveWhereILive. Join Date: Oct 2002
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| *shrug* maybe ms. norris used to be a real person, possibly filche's one ando nly, and thats why he's so fond of her. i think she can see thru invisibility cloaks. i mean its not impossible, madeye could see thru, and dumbledore, and possibly even voldemort, being so powerful as he is. |
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09-27-2003, 02:37 PM
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#235 (permalink)
| | Plimpy
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| *shrug* maybe ms. norris used to be a real person, possibly filch's one and only, and thats why he's so fond of her. i think she can see thru invisibility cloaks. i mean its not impossible, madeye could see thru, and dumbledore, and possibly even voldemort, being so powerful as he is. |
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09-28-2003, 11:08 AM
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#236 (permalink)
| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| two things:
>  >  >  > ]did u see that post!! "nobody noticed that dud beat up mark evans". thinks he/she is the only one and the first one to have noticed!!! oooooooooohhhhhhhawaa!! i feel so aggrevated and ugh!![/color] second, i will not take credit for the vampire business, my mom noticed it.
now, unto business as usual. remember when dementors attacked dudley? and his parents asked him what is it that he saw, but he was to frightened to even repeat it, to say it out loud! what is it that spoiled dud have been through that is that terrible? |
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09-28-2003, 04:36 PM
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#237 (permalink)
| | Plimpy
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| who knows? it can't be too bad if you're a muggle, coz the dementors are magic so it doesnt affect as much, but then again, since you are a muggle, it's pretty bad in it's own right coz muggles are not used to at all experiencing a demntor. you know what i mean? |
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09-29-2003, 04:02 AM
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#238 (permalink)
| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| that's relly interesting about the vampire thing
tell your mother she is smart sirius is cool B)
and i'm glad you like my long posts :scarejulie:
i dunno about dudley and the dementors, maybe he thought it was scary cuz it was something he couldnt beat up. :mrgreen:
okay, heres some other things that i found that i thought were interesting
* there are dragons in britian;
common welsh green and hebridean blacks...
*and, in the 3rd book when snape teaches them, he is shocked that they havent learned about werewolfs, but they had, in their 1st year :wtf:
*what was dumbledore doing at the mirror of erised being invisible the first night?
and why couldnt harry see him in the reflection if he was invisible?
and i thought this was an interesting quote ' strange how short sighted being invisible can make you'
*and i no i said this b4 but here is the quote from Ron 'I'll get him someday (grinding his teeth) i'll get him-'
i think Ron will indeed 'get him'
* do you think that dumbledore likes purple? he shoots up purble fire crackers on halloween when every1 is paniking about the troll, and he gives them all purple sleeping bags in 3rd year when the castle is being searched for sirius, he even wears a purple cloak... just thought it was interesting, i never noticed that he liked purple before |
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09-29-2003, 04:11 AM
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Location: New England Join Date: Sep 2003
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| There's a whole list of the numerouse times the color purple is mentioned throughout the series on mugglenet. Much more than you'd think! There's also quite a lot about socks... anybody there think there could be something more to socks? (sounds crazy... but then so does the whole wizarding world) Socks are seemingly normal objects, which probably makes them excelent for consealing stuff. And there are really wizardy socks out there too. (screem loud when they get smelly and all) This is a really messed up and rambling post, sorry. And one more thing: Whatever happened to the Snake Harry sent off to Brazil? Do you think it could possibly owe Harry a favore? (Besides freeking Dudly out, I mean) Could a boa constricter possibly battle Nagini? Incidently, I wonder what sort of snake Nagini is... any ideas? |
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09-29-2003, 04:19 AM
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#240 (permalink)
| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 14,809
| yes, its very interesting,
maybe socks protect you....
that sounds kinda stupid :whisle:
i'm not sure, but it seems kinda important in an odd way... |
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09-29-2003, 04:32 AM
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#241 (permalink)
| | Hippogriff
Location: Australia Join Date: Sep 2003
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Hogwarts RPG Name: Emily Browne Third | I hate Nagini- she sux I wanna see her dead!
I juss luv Sirius so much... :wub: *sigh*
oh and I like sox- I really do  |
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09-29-2003, 05:49 AM
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#242 (permalink)
| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| all i know is that nagini is very long... and hungry
here are some more of my endless questions:
why did Hermione alway hang around ron and harry in the 1st year when there were other girls who would probably talk to her more?
like, they really didnt like her, but she just kept hanging around them untill they aterted liking her.... odd-ish
when wood teaches harry how to play quidditch, he says that harry is better than charlie weasley and that he could have played for england
foreshadowing?
on harry's first night at hogwarts he had an odd dream that i had forgotten about in it he had quirrels turban on, it was telling him to trnsfer to slytherin, that it was his desting, he told it he didnt want to go to slytherin and it got heavier and tighter, and then malfoy was there laughing at him, then malfoy turned into snape and there was green light.... then he woke up
i think its important, because under the turban was voldemort, and of course he would want harry to transfer to slytherin, then malfoy, his enemy turns into snape and then there is green light like an adarva kedarava curse, maybe snape casting it on him
maybe voldemort sent him the dream to make him not trust snape, i dunno...
and just wondering, why do they only sing the hogwarts song in harry's first year?
lily and james were head boy and girl, i fgot that...
why was hagrid so horrified to think that lily adn james were killed in a car crash? do witchse and wizrds not die in car crashes? why not?
and what was in the letter dunbledore left the dursleys?, apparantly it explained how harry's parents died, but did it say anyting else?
like in ther howler 'REMEMBER MY LAST' was that that letter, or maybe he contacted her when harry ran away in teh 3rd book |
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09-29-2003, 06:16 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by me4ron@Sep 29 2003, 03:49 PM why was hagrid so horrified to think that lily adn james were killed in a car crash? do witchse and wizrds not die in car crashes? why not? | Maybe he was horrified because they died fighting against Voldemort (well not technically) and saying they died in a car crash was like an insult to their memory or their good deeds. |
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09-29-2003, 11:41 AM
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| well u must have noticed that witches n wizards are not as susceptible to injuries like muggles are
i mean there is always talk of magical people having outlandish accidents n yet they are good. like the time neville got thrown down the balcony by his uncle- apparently his magical ability was judged by the fact dat he bounced n didn't roll over n die like normal would have
n madam pomfrey.....she fixes the craziest injuries doesnt she? harry has broken all the bones in his body at least twice but he's up n about in a few days usually
so i should think hagrid would be ticked off by the fact dat they said lily n james could have died in a car crash
its like saying ok superman died cuz a baby hit him on the head  |
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09-29-2003, 11:06 PM
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#245 (permalink)
| | Plimpy
Location: ILiveWhereILive. Join Date: Oct 2002
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| lol yeah that's pretty stupid.
oh, and even if Voldemort did occlumency on harry or something and gave him tht weird dream on his first day, it wouldnt matter anyway coz harry doesnt trust snape EVEr lol. h*ll would certainly freeze over. |
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09-30-2003, 09:48 AM
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#246 (permalink)
| | Jobberknoll
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| the dream i think is pretty freaky! actually thats' what i think is harrys' gift from his mom in the books. i just wish j.k wrote the ream interpretation book harry and ron have in ootp. but i don't understand why would Quote: | voldiemort want harry to be in slytherin | ?
and the thing about dumbledore ...well dumbledore tells harry he has a close watch on harry more than harry can imagine in ootp, u can check if u don't believe me! we just don't know how he does it. but he does it.
socks? i don't think there is anything important about those, except maybe like hagrids' hanky...we know ron's is maroon, and hagrid has a big spotted one, maybe we'd see those at a crime scene or something and know they died or were the victims...get my drift? like in murder she wrote, the killer got caught because she left her hanky by mistake at the crime scene. |
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09-30-2003, 09:50 AM
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#247 (permalink)
| | Jobberknoll
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| don't shoot, but i like snakes, nagini included, she's just a stupid animal who wants to eat.. |
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09-30-2003, 10:00 AM
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#248 (permalink)
| | Gnome
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Join Date: Sep 2003
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| :up: Cool theory. :sorcerer: |
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09-30-2003, 09:02 PM
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Location: The Good Ole' US. Join Date: Aug 2003
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| You guys are brilliant!!! This is so much fun! Ok, now it's my turn to insert my say...
As for the dream; I don't hink it has much to do with the overall theme of the books. But, if you haven't noticed, Each individual book has an independent theme, and I think the one that that dream was in is just trying to get across the fact that it's our choices that make us who we are, you know?
Also, I kind of doubt Harry will play Quidditch professionally. I mean, JKR has put that in the book just as a back story, you know? Just something to lighten the mood.
And just a little FYI bit, I don't think Ron will ever trust Snape, and personally, I wouldn't either. |
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10-01-2003, 04:03 AM
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Location: Australia Join Date: Jul 2003
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| Has anyone noticed that Madam Marsh is on the Knight Bus both times Harry catches it? She's on it in PoA and then again when they go back to school in OotP. Then again, maybe she just travels a lot. |
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