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| | Order of the Phoenix Harry's 5th year at Hogwarts - will you join? | Have a very Harry day!!
07-30-2003, 12:33 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| Strange things found in Book 5 look it...
in the harry potter books:
lilly evans...
mark evans (dudley beat him up, remember "he gave me cheek) or somethin. so are they related??
so i was thinking maybe due to what voldemorts was doing the evans family didn't want anything to do with wizards...etc. so they told lilly to stop whatever, and it didn't go too well with them that lilly married james. so when they died, they didn't want to take care of harry, cause they were afraid of what he may become...BE PATIENT... so you ask why would petunia take care of him? be cause when dumbledore sent th howler it DID NOT say:
"remember THE last..." as in the last meeting we had
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"remember our last" as in our last meeting we had
he destinctly said "remember MY last" as in MYBE my last payment or warning. i say maybe warning because what's her face madam bones (harry's judge at the disciplinery hearing) said that the ministry of magic keeps a watch over privet drive especially because of...because of past events or something!!! meaning somethin horrible happened there and petunia keeps harry for her protection as well as his...because you know harry can kill voldi.....
i noticed that the black family have life like portraites...did sirius have one? i mean she built up (jk i mean) sirius's charecter for what? to simply insist that harry is an orphan? or because she wants to make us sad? i don't think siriuss' part is over quite yet...who knows.
p.s: anybody noticed that when harry isn't pressuring himself and is kinda blurting out whatever crosses his mind happens to be right in the story? example: in prof.trelawny's test in poa book about buckbeak...even though he was sure buckbeak will lose the trial and he wanted to get a good mark in th test...he insisted the buckbeak got away...there r more examples but not enough energy....
oooh and i think in history test he did do oclummency!! when he wished he could "open a window in her mind" to find out the answer...who knows, maybe thats the power he got from his mom, remember: " he gothis mom's eyes..."
and jk said they were important!! :o :o
look i dunno...just stuff  :unsure:  |
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07-30-2003, 12:41 PM
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| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 14,809
| vool
theyre ll things that i've been thinking
but the thing about harry and the eyes
maybe lily was good at divination, and was the teacher, but had to stop when harry was coming (so dumbledore hired trelawney)
i really do think that harry will be good at divination if he tries
i think he has 'The Eye' |
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07-30-2003, 12:43 PM
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| | | Quote: | p.s: anybody noticed that when harry isn't pressuring himself and is kinda blurting out whatever crosses his mind happens to be right in the story? example: in prof.trelawny's test in poa book about buckbeak...even though he was sure buckbeak will lose the trial and he wanted to get a good mark in th test...he insisted the buckbeak got away... | this is a really good theory :up: | |
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07-30-2003, 12:48 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| oh im supposed to study chmistry but i can't with all these ideas buzzing in my head...
j.k said that james got his fortune by inhereting it...meaning his job is, eh...not too good paying. and what do teachers complain about?!?! that they are not getting paid enough. and what was j.k? a french teacher?!!? woohooo for me.....though i maybe wrong
by the way thanks for replying...hehe nobody listens to me at home :wub: :wub: |
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07-30-2003, 12:52 PM
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| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| i love reading topics like this, it helps you piece together stuff in the books
i think you really might have something in those theories |
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07-30-2003, 01:05 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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| :o
turns glow in the dark |
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07-30-2003, 01:27 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| where is everybody?
...all alone...chemistry book attacking me!! it's attacking!!!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhgh
nice to be alone with one's own imagination :online2long: |
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07-30-2003, 05:26 PM
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Location: Mobile, ALABAMA!!! Join Date: Apr 2003
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| wow! thats somethings i never thought about!! the teacher idea...that just might be it...i had been wondering about the inherited money...where do you think it came from? |
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07-30-2003, 05:56 PM
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07-31-2003, 06:40 PM
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| | | Your missing one thing. In the first book, Lily's sister Petunia said that her parents were PROUD the day she got her letter (Lily I mean). So they could not of hated Lily being a witch. It wouldn't make sense. Unless they starting hating something about it, but then Petunia would of said that already, for she would love having her parents hate lily. | |
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07-31-2003, 06:43 PM
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| | | Oh, and wouldn't Dumbledore have told Harry about some distant relations he had with some other kids. He already is upset with himself for holding the other secrets to himself for all that time.
Sorry if you think I'm rude now, i just want to make a point. But the other things you said make me wonder. | |
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07-31-2003, 07:30 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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| no no!! not at all...u make a point...i'm sick of hearing/reading myself talk/chat... not rude at all
u have a point...but why? why of all last names did she have to pick evans? maybe dumbledor doesn't want harry to feel sad that all his relatives don't want him?
dunno...
please reply
p.s: maybe the parents died...but the jeoluse siblings survived?? |
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07-31-2003, 07:42 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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| oooh ooooh and look it!
dumbledorr always makes his secret password a type of candy he likes...
one of the password were cokaroach cluster (yughh!) that were in the unusual tastes section containing sweets for vampires...etc. maybe dumbledor isn't what he seems to be?? dunno |
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08-01-2003, 12:49 AM
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| You know what struck me about the Mark Evans thing? Well, Mark Evans is 10. Hogwarts students start there at 11. Maybe we'll see him in the new school year? |
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08-01-2003, 12:51 AM
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| | | i think i know why mcgonagall gave him cookies or biciuts when they were in her office! Maybe the cookies contained the Draught of Peace ! | |
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08-01-2003, 10:10 PM
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| im a bit sceptical about the mark evans thing....i will admit tht it is unlikely jk wud 'slip-up' and use the same surname for two supposedly unrelated characters (lily and mark evans) especially considering that lily is a relatively major character....but i thnk alot in book 5 shows tht jk is bcumin mor aware of the probin readers...and how they are progressin in their literary skills (vocabulary for example in book 5 compared wiv SS is much more advanced).....i think tht jk will be addin a few mor 'red herrings' into the books....maybe mark evans is another....? :whisle: |
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08-01-2003, 11:23 PM
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Location: Mobile, ALABAMA!!! Join Date: Apr 2003
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| gosh i feel stupid but umm what is a "red herring" ? :unsure: |
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08-02-2003, 04:43 AM
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| Official -()- Seeker
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| first i want to tell anyone who hasn't read it already to go out and buy the ultamate unofficial guide to the mysteries of Harry Potter. Once your done with it you will be able to interpret things sooo much easier.
Okay so..... I like the mark evans thing. But what im really still questioning is would dumbledore really have told Harry everthing? Hes already proven he can go a LOOOOONNNNNGGGGGGGG time without telling something really important to Harry. But how important is it to Dumbledore to tell Harry that he has another cousin and aunt and uncle that he can't even live with until he kills voldemort cuz of the ancient magic. Plus how safe would that be. (the poor guy did just get beat up.) JK also likes to keep us suprised so I wouldn't rule anything out.  |
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08-02-2003, 04:51 PM
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| | Jobberknoll
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| red herrings mean like....errr....sort of misdirecting somebody into thinking something wrong/opposite...so j.k can surprise us...u know get us to think of something but then tada! it's different! so we keep on getting surprised...?sorry i'm not very good at defining things...
lunatic means crazy about the moon....i'm not joking actually, see befor they used to think if u stare at the moon u become crazy hence lunatic! ask ur english teacher if u don't believe me!! so maybe luna is gonna do something to make lupin a LUNA-TIC? especially since he is a werewolf?
i'm sure the following is no new news that dumbledore's bro is gonna turn up in the story either 6 or seven. u'know aberforth? right why, u ask? because in the first book she said hagrid borrowed the motor bike from hagrid....boom, a few books later he is one of the main charecters. she has mentioned aberforth two times, so he is due. he is strange and did something illegal to a goat, and in book 5, the ministry of magic has a department for illegal mixing or breeding whatever of animals(check book 5, when mr weasly talks to a strange guy holding a box). and i read that in greek mythology there is a creature part goat, part lion and part snake...maybe? no? anyways...aberforth is due to showup and i read somewhere a theory saying he is the guy at hogshead harry thought "looked familier"...
oh and i think collin creavy is gonna backstab harry and/or his friends like wormtail did. neville is NOT like wormtail he is loyal and brave...he doesn't follow ron,harry,hermy around...however collin does follow harry around and he certainly looks the part...very mousy indeed.
sorry i wrote alot. |
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08-03-2003, 12:25 AM
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| | Yeti
Location: Australia Join Date: Oct 2002
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| i love all these ideas
they are great
i still think that maybe Lily was the divination teacher
cuz dumbledore needed a new teacher just b4 harry was born (she could have been on maternity leave, and didnt get to go back, cuz she died soon after. Dumbledore might have jsut been looking for a temporary replacement, so thats why he settled on trelawney) and that would be why harry's eyes are so important that he has the same as Lilys, if he has 'The Eye', i think that would make sense
and maybe the dursleys were the nicest relatives that harry had, and Mark Evans' family are evil... :angrysmile: that could be why he was 'giving dudley cheek'
or maybe they arent blood related, only law, and thats why harry needs to stay with the dursleys, cuz petunia's blood can protect him
oh dear, another very long post, coz, i only meant to tell u guyz how observant you are  |
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08-03-2003, 12:34 AM
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Location: Weasley's Wizard Wheezes Join Date: Jul 2003
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| yea i kinda figure that out 2
but idk
i like this stuff when people find this with me so i dont feel like a idot :unsure: |
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08-05-2003, 11:28 AM
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| | Jobberknoll
Join Date: Jul 2003
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| question does anybody have any idea on what is "the little clue" in chamber of secrets which is a clue to what gonna happen in book 6???
j.k said there is, but i still can't figuer it out...is it the sword? what exactly? |
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08-07-2003, 08:08 AM
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| | | Okay, Mark is ten in the fifth book, right? So therefore he will be 11 in the sixth - time to go to hogwarts.
"remember my last" might mean "remember the last letter I wrote (he left with Harry as a baby) and what it said in it if you didn't keep a good watch over Harry" | |
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08-07-2003, 09:17 AM
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Location: GRounded Join Date: Jul 2003
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| ok i think we all or at least most of us no that JKR dosent put anything in unless it will relate later.
i think mark evans IS a in-law to harry or something like it
and i think that Dumbledore had sent a howler to harry cuz it went into flash back or something when she opened it i think or it said leter on that dumble had sent her one when he was younger
i think maybe sirius will still be there in spirt or something! she COULDENT just delete him form her books that would be so totaly wrong!
i like that idea about 'THE EYE' that sounds really good and it does kinda make sence!
i think that james was rich or somthing and maybe his parents died soon after he finished hoggies
about the candy password thing i no he is fond of muggle cany and maybe the gross ones are named after Betty Botts every flavor beans that he dident like!
i dont no about the colin thing he is harrys fan why would he betry them? i dont no just thought i would say something about it!
i dont no about the 'little secret' from CoS but i would really like to no but i have a couple idea but it would take WAY to long to post!
i have a question... umm whats with the trator thing! it seems in almost every age group kinda thing, i mean peter (worntail), tom (voldermort), and maritta(sp?)(chos friend) i think thats kinda creepy or does JKR like tratorism or something? i dont no i was wondering about that reaccuring event
sorry its so long!i really am! |
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