I found the whole Prophecy thing all too confusing!

And yep, I think Neville and Luna will also play a major role in the upcoming books!!

I still think that the bit with Luna in the last chapter will be a key element. JK always puts important things in the last chapter and she wouldn't put Harry pitying Luna for no reason. So she is going to be important!

I don't know if this is the right place for me to ask this, but it sort of deals with the prophecy. Okay, Dumbledore told Harry that the prophecy was made shortly before Harry was born, and one of Voldemort's supporters heard Professor Trelawney telling the prophecy to Dumbledore. So the Death Eater would have gone to tell Voldemort about the prophecy right away. But if Voldemort found out about the prophecy right away, why did he wait so long to try to kill Harry? Wouldn't he have wanted to get rid of him as soon as possible? In Goblet of Fire it says something about Voldemort wanting Harry dead from the time he was a year old. Unless it took Wormtail a year to tell Voldemort where the Potters were hiding, it doesn't make sense at all for Voldemort to wait a year to try to kill Harry.

Maybe it would take him a while to decide which child he was to kill? Neville or Harry? And I am sure he would not have let all the death eaters know coz the prophecy would be public news. So when he discovered the child was Harry, he which took him a year to discover, he would search for Wormtail, the closest dark link to the potters.

Could you imagine Neville being made Voldemort's equal! Probably still wouldnt make his Gran proud...GO NEVILLE!

Good point!!!

The world would be in serious trouble if Volde did that

You can tell for a fact that Neville is going to play and enormous part in later books. The prophecy may have been a little confusing but when you really think about it it makes a lot of sense regarding on the reason Voldemort tried to kill Harry in the first place.

Yeah, it does, but remember, Voldemort doesn't know the last half.... do you guys think he will ever find out about it?

I don't know if he'll ever hear the whole prophecy, but he has to know that he didn't hear the whole bit. Of course he wouldn't want his death eaters to hear about a prophecy that said there was someone who could defeat him. He doesn't trust them. He doesn't trust anyone. He rules by fear, but he has to know that he didn't hear the whole prophecy in the beginning and that there's more to it than that. Then again, the only people, now, who know the full prophecy are Dumbledore and Harry right? I mean, Harry didn't tell anyone. Maybe Dumbledore has, but I don't think he would...

I understand the prophecy, but I still wondering about the last sentence that means, "one of them has got to kill the other one in the end". Will Harry...die???

well voldemort hearsd something about the prohpecy right...?

and he heard that a boy who was born on july 31st so he assumed harryy

then he went and killed james potter and he didnt want to kill lily because he told her to move aside

but what i want to find out is why didnt he want to kill lily?

i also think that voldemort will hear th last half and then he will kill harry and what he didnt relaze is that neville also has the power and then neville goes and kill voldie i think it will end somewhere along these lines

well here's my understanding of the whole 'how the prophesy thing played out'

a DE heard half the prophesy-went and told voldemort n now harry is in the fry as a probable who'll defeat tom.
DD is aware of this- the whole secret keeping charm thing comes into play here. pettigrew is made secret keeper n he keeps his rats mouth shut for a whole year 'til he blabs to voldemort abt where harry n the potters are hiding n the whole halloween thing happens

this leads me to arrive at two possible wild theories
was the impatient DE who told tom regulus black? he died around the same time which lead me to wonder- i know sirius said its cuz he backed out n i thought exactly! he might have informed voldemort abt the prophesy so wen tom asked regulus to kill harry he panicks. i mean according to paddy() reg was a bit of a ponce n he mighta panicked wen he was asked to dob his older brother's best mate's son. its a big ask to harm someone u kno

and the second thing- ifthe potters were on the run for whole year- since the prophesy n harry being born to the fateful halloween day, im thinking paddy was made secret keeper n then paddy persuaded the potters to change mid way- cuz if peter was made secret keeper immediately then the potters wouldnt have lasted a whole year-
they lasted a year on the run cuz their secret wasnt outed till the very end of that year

also well now dat voldemort knows that he didnt hear the complete prophesy he's going to look into other ways in which he can access the prophesy- i wouldnt be surprised if he already has
wat i wonder is dat after trelawney made the prophesy n DD adviced the potters into hiding james n lily must hae known the entire prophesy of course. so wen they made peter the secret keeper how come he didnt tell voldemort abt it long ago? cuz the potters' obviously didnt tell him abt it- i mean come on if ur life was in danger n a mate was supposedly helping out, im pretty sure ud discuss it with them especially since even they are concerned with it
did they all that time ago suspect something amiss with peter?

The whole thing with the Prophosey, is kinda weird.

For Harry to know that he must kill someone or he will die, must be a really scary thought. I know it it really freaks me out and I'm not even in his position. I'm only 13, so obvlously I'm younger than Harry, but still....

Yeah, the prophecy is kind of mind-bending. (By the way, it's prophecy not prophesy. Prophesy is the verb) I am kind of glad that there is the prophecy in the books though. It kind of unites the books, and explains a lot

i can't wait for book 6. i can't believe that harry has to either a murderer or a victim. i hope he's the murderer. i can't wait for book 6 to come out but i think we have to wait ages. I WANT IT NOW!!!

I think that the rise of another Dark Wizard is how the series is goign to end. I have a pretty good feeling that it is going to be a character that we all know and love.

If Voldimort dies by Harry's hand, how will that happen do you think? because I don't think Harry is capable of doing the Avadra K curse since when he tries to do the crucious curse on LeStrange she tells him he is not evil enough to do it. Also, I don't think the Avadra curse would work on Voldi anyway since it was that same curse he used on Lily and Harry which rebounded off of Harry and hit him - it didn't kill him but just weakened him. Also, Voldi has proven that he can live for quite awhile without a physical body, so you couldn't kill him in a physical way either. I think the only thing that could kill him would be love. I had a theory that perhaps he would possess Harry and Harry would then kill himself to protect someone he loved. Then maybe that act of love would kill Voldi. I don't know, sounds kinda dumb but I just don't see how Voldi could be killed anyway.

Dumbledore tells Voldi there are worse things than death. I wonder what they are.

well i dont think harry dying wen tom is possessing him will work
cuz quirrel died wen tom had taken over quirrel but tom just went his merry way- nothing much happened to him
but having said that the instant harry wishes he dies to see sirius( ) the creature lets go
see tom thinks there is nothing worse than death
in other words he doesnt care abt the quality of his life so long as he survives-he's proved this to us even in the 1st book wen he drinks the unicorn blood n chosing a cursed life
but harry would not- to him living his life with dignity and honesty is more important-he is not so ruthless to hurt someone n destroy them for his own desires- this is basic decency but it escapes tom
so wen they are fighting the final one-where either tom or harry will die i think tom will get harry in a vulnerable position n go hah! there u go u slimy bugger! ur dead. i win i win!
but the power has to think beyond his own needs or watever will come to his rescue and might make him kill tom
i dont know- i need to flesh it out but thats the outline of wat i think will happen

Yes, we know. But remember what Hagrid said:
Remember the "gleam of triumph" in Dumbledore's eye at the end of GoF? That's because, with Harry's blood, Voldy had enough human left in him to die.

Thank GOD I'm not the only person who noticed that! It's because Voldemort, even with Harry's blood, is still purely evil and cannot abide love. Harry loved Sirius very much (in a father-son way you sick brother-truckers) and thinking about Sirius brought that love to the surface, causing Voldemort enough pain to let go.

Harry will kill Voldemort. No question about it.

cheers mate
i hate reading stuff which indicates at anything less than fluffy 'make u sick in the stomach with its sweetness' ending

i agree with lauradonaghy

I don't see how JK Rowling would not have Voldimort die by the end of book 7 - if she didn't we would have to think that the magic world would be doomed forever to live under the nasty Voldimort.

And, I also don't see how the fans will ever let her get away with never writing another book after 7 unless she also kills off Harry.

Its sad to think about, but some of the best books in the world end sadly (with the death of the hero). Sometimes that is what makes a book great because it's the self-sacrifice to the point of death of the hero that is so compelling.

One of my favorite books is A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens simply for that reason.