JKR Site specifficly has said that Lily isn't blood rated towards Voldemor. The last origin of Salazar Slytherin was Voldemort so that is it. Plus out of anything Lily would be an odd ball that landed in Gryffindor when every one else was in Slytherin. Her family may have child her.

fig can be a teacher shes not a wizard and has no real powers she like filch right?

sorry she can not be a teacher right?

well JK told us that Figg does a good trade in Kneasel Cat half breeds. I'd imagine that a squib could apply for any job that doesn't require the use of magic, but since there'd be plenty of wizards available to do the job, then I don't see why a squib would.

I've been reading lots of things lately - different theories and such on some other websites and I think I am onto something . . .

This hypothesis takes into account several things (I'll list them first)

A - JKR says that it's important that Lily's wand was good for charms

B - JKR says it's important who knew what about that prophecy

C - Lily had a little time because James tried to hold off Voldemort first

D - JKR says it's important that Harry has Lily's eyes

Ok - here's my hypothesis:

Lily knew the full text of the prophecy and together with (possibly Dumbledore) and James, they researched ways to help protect Harry from Voldemort or at least give him a chance. One of the ways they tried to protect Harry was with the Fidelus (sp?) charm. They must have had at least a plan B if that failed.

While James was holding off Voldemort for a short time, Lily INTENTIONALLY put charms on Harry that would possibly A) Cause the curse to rebound, B) Cause some of Voldemort's powers to be duplicated in Harry, C) Put some sort of defense in Harry's blood itself? (Thus when Voldemort takes Harry's blood in GOF, it will be a part of his downfall - thus Dumbledore's "triumphant look".)

I think this hypothesis is supported by several things:

James specifically gave Lily time by sacrificing himself - yet we see Lily still standing around when Voldemort gets there. She wasn't just standing around waiting for it - she was busy putting the necessary charms on baby Harry.

I believe we have been lead to think that the charm that was put on Harry was unintentional and was caused by Lily's sacrifice. Though this might still be true - I think she perfomed some charms consciously.

Many prophecies are "self-fulfilled" a point brought up by netequevaris in an earlier post. The Bible says that even Jesus specifically personally did some things in order to fulfill prophecies written about him. (See John 19:28 "Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, 'I am thirsty.' ") Of course, some of the prophecies about Jesus came true without his direct manipulation, like the town he was born in.

Even though it was not Harry himself who did the charms in order to fulfill the prophecy, I think they were intentionally done by Lily. In this case, it would almost make the prophecy be a clue to James and Lily as to how to best protect their son, i.e. the prophecy says they should cause Voldemort and Harry to be equal.

Of course, there's no way for us to know what the charms were, but I think this is probably one of the mysteries of the series that will be cleared up soon, since the charms were done in order to help Harry fulfill the prophecy.

after reading HP 5 for like the umpteenth time, I noticed something. That wrting on the prophecy stands for something. So and-so's initials to So and so's intitials are Dumbledores and Trewlawney's! Remember when Dumbledore appeared at the hearing unexpectedly and said his full name, Albus Brian something something something blah blah blah. I connected that to the initials on the prophecy and what do you know? The first name, long middle names, and last names matched each initial in precise order! I figured the other initials must be Trewlawney's even though I don't know her middle name. But it makes sense doesn't it? Trelawney said the prophecy and Dumbledore heard it! So the witnesses had to be recorded right?

I really hope this hasn't been discussed already or else I will feel like a complete moron.

nvm it has been discussed darn it. I'm so slow.

WEll my theory on the profecy is this:

it says "Either must die at the hand of the other" Everyone thinks that that means that one must die at the hand of the other, but either also means "both" so it could mean both must die at the hand of the other. I don't want it to end this way, but that's my theory because JK said that she "worded it very carefully" I guess that gives you something to think about......

I think the prophecy means that either Harry or Voldermort must die because either can live while the other is alive...something like that.
If Harry dies then Voldermort lives and vice versa...that's what I think it means...but we will soon find out in the last two books what the prophecy actually meant!!!

i think now that voldemort has harrys blood they will both have to die

I think it means that one must kill the other but not both of them dying

Ummm can someone please tell me what "The Propecy" is exactly?

- I cant wait for half-blood prince to be realeased! -

Have you read book 5?

Im on the page where Harry finds his Prophecy and hes running away and they sealed the door off.But I don't understand what the prophecy means.

You will in due time....you will.

So the prophecy means either must die at the hands of the other for neither can live while the other survives? I just finished OotP today !

Well I don't think that we're positive about exactly what it means.

Here's what JK has to say about it on her site:


I think it means that they both can't co-exist. So, either one has to die, or they both do. But that's just my opinion.

I think that harry was saved by a combination of his mothers protection like dumbledore said and his own power. He first showed his power in the first book by being the only person to get his broomstick up on the first try (did you see the movie). I don't think that Mrs. Figg will be the DADA teacher because she's a squib isn't she. I keep thinking back to the first book when dumbledore said that he has a birthmark or scar or something like that that is a perfect map of the london underground; now maybe because I am american or just thick but i keep thinking that might come into play sometime in the future (you know like the Gringotts vaults are underground. As for Lilly being related to Voldemort some how it's very possible because even sirius is related to the Lestranges, so you know that it is very possible for voldemort to be related to lilly. but I think that he might have killed James and Lilly out of necessity, because the only person he needed to kill would have been harry.

Voldemort's going to chase immortal life now he's back to power. If he kills Harry, that doesnt mean he has to die as well. When the killing curse rebounded on Voldemort when harry was a baby, Voldemort wasnt destroyed and now he's more powerful than ever.

Somehow i feel i had already guessed the prophecy in a sense. the build up and clues past through out books 1 to 4 just made it all piece together to give this sort of prophecy.

I agree with you. The both can die. If Rowling wants to kill Harry, the better chance that will affect on the readers that he and Voldemort at the end killeach other or die with each other. But we don't know what Rowling will say or do. The prophcey is very clear..Harry must kill Voldemort because they can't live with eachother in the same time. One of them must die. Of course he must be Voldemort ( i really hope she doesn't make him live and kill Harry ) but the prophcey didn't say about dying witheach other. I hope Rowling won't do that because we all don't want Harry to die. But I think that Some one important will die or some thing will happen..Until that, I think Harry must think well on the prophcey and try to find out with Dumbledore how to kill Voldemort because Harry must kill him. There is no escape. Harry must take off this idea about he will be killer. If you kill a bad person because he threatens your life, You will be a killer??? Of course, not.

Voldemort killed the Potters to be able to get to Harry and because they denied him three times. Also because they were Harry's parents too so he killed them to be able to have more horcruxes and to get to Harry.