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05-18-2003, 08:57 AM
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I was wondering last night about what Dumbledore was going to tell Harry, you know, in the segment they read out at the conference where they told of the books' release date?
I think it Albus might tell Harry something about Lily. Which could be the reason why Voldemort was willing to overlook her that Halloween night. Regardless of the fact that she is a mudblood. What that might be, I'm not exactly sure....
But many of you here are really good theory-concocters. What do you think?
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05-18-2003, 07:36 PM
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| | Hinkypunk
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| I think he will tell Harry about his parents in more depth. You kno, like Lily's possible relationship w/ Voldemort, Lily in general, and important info. on James as well. It's time we all know the true story!!
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05-18-2003, 07:45 PM
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| | Bundimun
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| i agree with u tiki |
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05-18-2003, 07:55 PM
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| | Glumbumble
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| Quote: I think he will tell Harry about his parents in more depth. You kno, like Lily's possible relationship w/ Voldemort, Lily in general, and important info. on James as well. It's time we all know the true story!!
Katie yea, what some people that have read the books dont understand is that Voldemort intended to kill the Potter's. A possible relationship!? i seriously doubt it. Because Voldemort went to school in the 50's. And Lily and James in the 70's. Where would they meet? I dont know what happened between tham but J.K Rowling says (in an interview) that Dumbledore will tell Harry all about that in OotP.  OMG I CANT WAIT FOR THIS BOOK! |
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05-19-2003, 02:08 PM
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| | Bundimun
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A relationship between Lily and Voldemort?????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt it :unsure:
The question, of course, is why hesitated to kill her, but that doesn´t mean they had something to do with a close relation. In my opinio, I believe he was not interested in killing her in the bigining, but because of her insistence in protecting him
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05-19-2003, 07:33 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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:online2long: I think what Dumblydore's gunna tell Harry is that he has a secret sibling, perhaps a sister, thats just what I think.
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05-19-2003, 07:39 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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I NEED THAT BOOK! AGGGHHHGGHHHHGGHHH!!!! *starts ripping hair out in large chunks*
NEED! READ! HARRY POTTER BOOK!
*runs around math class hitting head on various people and objects*
NEEEEEEEED!
*starts poking people irritably*
BAD DOBBY! BAD DOBBY!
AHHHHH!
NOOOOOO! HARRY POTTER MUST NOT GO BACK TO HOGWARTS!!!
Please excuse Dobby, harry Potter, sir, he has drunken too much butterbeer...
But its not strong that stuff...
Tis strong for a house elf sir....
AGGGHHHHH!!! READ NOW! HAAAAASSSTTIIIINNNGGGSSS!!!
*starts blasting streets apart with a 'metal wand' madse by muggles called a 'gun' that kills people*
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05-19-2003, 07:41 PM
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| | Bowtruckle
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hehe. Sorry, im really hyper. I just finished a test in math :-P
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05-19-2003, 07:43 PM
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| | Glumbumble
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| Quote: In my opinio, I believe he was not interested in killing her in the bigining, but because of her insistence in protecting him he did! he did!  they explain in the...3rd book i believe. Voldemort wanted to kill the Potters, remember? how Peter Pettegrew was the Potter's secret keeper and Voldemort got that information from him b/c he wanted to kill them! But Dumbledore wont explain why! >  because he "was too young" :angrysmile: Ggrrr!
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05-19-2003, 10:23 PM
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| | Bundimun
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I am pretty sure he is going to tell him why Voldemort wanted to kill him.
Because in the first book, Harry asked Dumbledore why Voldemort wanted to kill him, and Dumbledore replied by telling him that he would wait until he was ready.
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05-20-2003, 07:10 AM
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| | Bundimun
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| Quote: Originally posted by OloEopia@May 19 2003, 05:50 PM Quote: In my opinio, I believe he was not interested in killing her in the bigining, but because of her insistence in protecting him he did! he did! they explain in the...3rd book i believe. Voldemort wanted to kill the Potters, remember? how Peter Pettegrew was the Potter's secret keeper and Voldemort got that information from him b/c he wanted to kill them! But Dumbledore wont explain why! > because he "was too young" :angrysmile: Ggrrr! I remember in the 2nd book, that Lucius Malfoy told Harry that his parents were meddlesome. Dumbledore will tell Harry all about this.
What did his parents discover? Whatever they discovered, it was enough to make them go into hiding at Godric's Hollow and hide from Voldemort.
He will explain why Voldemort didn't want to kill Lily at first.
Dumbledore will also tell Harry that the spy who alerted him to Voldemort going after the Potters, was Severus Snape. It was his way of trying to re-pay James back, since James saved his life when they were going to Hogwarts as kids.
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05-20-2003, 09:49 PM
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er, my other thread got locked, so I think this is where the guy was telling me to put it for theories, so here's mine...(he said he was going to delete my thread, so I moving it now....*scampers away*)
OK, so they had that quote thing about dumbledore telling harry everything. So, me and my dad worked this out together.
Dumbledore is all knowing, we all know it. Every book needs a character like him. So, when Lily and James were killed, he sent Harry to live with the Dursleys, who previously had tons of magical power, but shirked it.Their deal w/ Dumbledore was that their kid (Dudley) would have nothing to do with magic, and they would take Harry in. Mrs. Arabella Figg, took the job of Harry's Secret Keeper. Now, there was a rule amongst the entire wizarding world, Harry mst not know who he is. He will know when Dumbledore thinks he is ready.
Proof:
JK Rowling said something about it being too late for the dursleys, but dudley might still have a chance.....
Mrs. Figg is the one in the Same Arabella Figg mentioned in GoF.
That should be enough for you. Obviously there is something also about James' side of the family. OUr other half of the theory (can't be proven) is that Voldie is James' brother who had a crush on Lily, who then married James. I don't agree, but it's what my dad thinks.
Anyway, open for discussion, rip it apart so I can stop believeing it, PLEASE! hehe
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05-20-2003, 10:01 PM
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I heard a theory that James was a decendant of Godric Gryffindor, and Harry would be too. And that's why he just wanted to kill those two.
I think that's pretty smart! That would be cool if it were true!
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05-21-2003, 08:47 PM
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| | Bundimun
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I think it's pretty obvious that Dumbledore is going to tell Harry why he has his scar. I don't know why, but I'm sure it will be amazing.
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05-21-2003, 08:57 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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| Quote: Originally posted by twilight_dreamer@May 18 2003, 08:04 AM Regardless of the fact that she is a mudblood. mudblood'd a bad term! >  it's defintely going to be something about his parents.
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05-21-2003, 09:00 PM
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| | Chizpurfle
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| Quote: Originally posted by stick seer@May 20 2003, 08:56 PM Dumbledore is all knowing, we all know it. Every book needs a character like him. So, when Lily and James were killed, he sent Harry to live with the Dursleys, who previously had tons of magical power, but shirked it.Their deal w/ Dumbledore was that their kid (Dudley) would have nothing to do with magic, and they would take Harry in. Mrs. Arabella Figg, took the job of Harry's Secret Keeper. Now, there was a rule amongst the entire wizarding world, Harry mst not know who he is. He will know when Dumbledore thinks he is ready.
Proof:
JK Rowling said something about it being too late for the dursleys, but dudley might still have a chance.....
Mrs. Figg is the one in the Same Arabella Figg mentioned in GoF. Nice!
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05-21-2003, 09:13 PM
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wow all these are really good! I think Dumbledorrs gonna tell harry why he was soposed to be killed along with his dad. I just really want to know that big secret about lily and why voldie tried to not kill her! THIS IS SO EXCEITING!
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05-21-2003, 09:30 PM
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| | Bundimun
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:mrgreen: After reading everybody elses posts, i think its all of them. Like lily and james' life before harry, and everyone around him who is a wizard, and things like that. I think he probably didn't tell him til now because an 11 yr old prolly couldn't handle all of the info he would give him (also to keep the reader in suspense). Like in the first book when he was dropped off at the Dursley's Dumbdore said that his fame would be too much for him at to young an age.
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05-21-2003, 10:05 PM
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| | Bundimun
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| Quote: Originally posted by stick seer@May 20 2003, 07:56 PM er, my other thread got locked, so I think this is where the guy was telling me to put it for theories, so here's mine...(he said he was going to delete my thread, so I moving it now....*scampers away*)
OK, so they had that quote thing about dumbledore telling harry everything. So, me and my dad worked this out together.
Dumbledore is all knowing, we all know it. Every book needs a character like him. So, when Lily and James were killed, he sent Harry to live with the Dursleys, who previously had tons of magical power, but shirked it.Their deal w/ Dumbledore was that their kid (Dudley) would have nothing to do with magic, and they would take Harry in. Mrs. Arabella Figg, took the job of Harry's Secret Keeper. Now, there was a rule amongst the entire wizarding world, Harry mst not know who he is. He will know when Dumbledore thinks he is ready.
Proof:
JK Rowling said something about it being too late for the dursleys, but dudley might still have a chance.....
Mrs. Figg is the one in the Same Arabella Figg mentioned in GoF.
That should be enough for you. Obviously there is something also about James' side of the family. OUr other half of the theory (can't be proven) is that Voldie is James' brother who had a crush on Lily, who then married James. I don't agree, but it's what my dad thinks.
Anyway, open for discussion, rip it apart so I can stop believeing it, PLEASE! hehe Stick seer,
You may have something there!!! Arabella Figg may be Harry's secret keeper. She was also his baby sitter too, wasn't she? She would have had to keep a close eye on her charge. There's been guesses as to who the new DADA teacher will be. The guesses have been towards Arabella Figg! Now that Mort
(I call Voldemort that!) is back in power, it would be necessary to keep Harry even more protected now. I think Arabella will be the new DADA teacher!
I think Arabella will know that Snape used to be one of Mort's followers and doesn't like him. She doesn't trust him. She doesn't think that he's truly turned over a new leaf. Anyone who worked for the Dark Lord, isn't trustworthy in her book.
What do you all think of this idea???
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05-21-2003, 10:15 PM
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| | Guest | [color= darkblue ] I think its a good idea.
I have heard that Lily might have been a death eater or started following the dark arts and then came back to good and thats why Voldemort was after the Potter family. Thats just a rumor i heard!!!![/color]
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05-21-2003, 10:46 PM
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| | Bundimun
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| Quote: Originally posted by Hermione_Weasley@May 20 2003, 08:08 PM I heard a theory that James was a decendant of Godric Gryffindor, and Harry would be too. And that's why he just wanted to kill those two.
I think that's pretty smart! That would be cool if it were true! Hermione Weasley,
I think you just might have hit on something also!! If James WAS a direct descendant (and now Harry) of Godric Griffyndor, then that would account for that huge inheritance that James recieved. This would also answer the question: why were James and Lily living at Godric's Hollow? This place must have been the Potter's family ancestoral home.
This would also account for why Mort (Tom Riddle) would want to go after The Potters. Mort wanted to open up the Chamber of Secrets, but couldn't do it with the Potters in the way. He didn't want the decendants of Griffydor to twart his fulfilling Salazar Slytherin's "great work" of ridding the school of mudbloods or half n' halfs.
Interesting that he pulled out Godric Gryffindor's sword out of the Sorting Hat -- eh?
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05-28-2003, 03:46 AM
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Remember in the first book at the end when Harry asked Dumbledore wanted to kill him in the first place? well if you will recall Dumbledore replied with "Alas, the first thing you ask, I cannot tell you. Not today. Not now. You will know one day... put it from your mind for now, Harry. When you are older...i know you hate to hear this...when you are ready you will know." so i think iits ab this
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05-28-2003, 06:01 AM
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I think so too. God, I can't wait |
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05-28-2003, 03:41 PM
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oh my goodness me!!!!! Ever since the last book, I've been thinking everything over in my head. I realised that one of Voldie's supporter's would ahve atleast tried to kill Harry while he was at the Dursleys, who are supposedly muggle and powerless. Or Harry might have had some strange people knocking on his cupboard-under-the-stairs door asking for an autograph. It only seems logical that Harry would be 'hidden' away from the wizarding world as he grew up. I came to the conclusion, same as Stick seer, that Mrs Arabella Figg could be his secret-keeper. She was referred to by Dumbledore as as one of the 'old crowd' who he wanted to round up. After I found out that JK had described the new DADA teacher as a female who was like 'bitter honey' (or something along those lines), my mind immediately jumped to Arabella.
You can check that I'm not just taking credit for someone elses idea because theyre all in my ff! :mrgreen:
I also wrapped up two loose ends in my mind, though I could be mixing them up dreadfully. In PoA, Dumbledore remarks that Trelawney's prediction of wormtail's return to voldie was her second proper forecast of the future. I came to the conclusion that Trelawney predicted Harry spelling the end of Voldie's reign of terror, and that he was Godric Gryffindor's true heir. Voldie, through his faithful spy Peter Pettigrew, heard of the prophecy and immediately set his sights on the Potters, intent on killing what was rumoured to be his potential down-fall.
Voldie had killed innocent people before, and he had no quarrel in killing james, who was probably ready to duel with the dark lord, even though the odds were stacked against him. When Lily stood in his way, he asked her to move, maybe because he wouldn't be so shallow as to kill a witch who did not have a wand in her hand, or perhaps because of something else, but his main concern was to kill Harry.
I think whatever the reason that Lily was asked to move, rather than just blown to bits *excuse the expression :whisle: *, it will be out of the blue and quite unexpected, like the revelation that Scabbers was Peter Pettigrew and that Sirius was the good guy.
*applause after my looooooong speech**handed a bunch of flowers*
Really you shouldn't have :mrgreen: !
*twiddling thumbs until books comes out, have been for past 3 years, ow my thumbs hurt now!  *
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05-28-2003, 07:17 PM
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| AWESOME THEORY!!! B)
It's the best I've heard, I think. I really appreciated the prophesy.
It makes PERFECT sense. I've heard the whole 'heir of Gryffindor' theory before, but adding it to Trelawney's first prediction, it fits! I think you're completely right. I can't wait to read it and see how it all plays out. GENIUS! That's why Voldie told Lily to 'stand aside', so he could kill Harry. It was to defeat the prophesy, it wasn't just about the kill. Ya know, I reckon you're bang on with that. I can't wait to hear what Dumbledore has to say.
I REALLY want to know "what stumped him that night", why Harry is the "Boy who Lived". Do you think fate stepped in, or someone else, like Dumbleodre. Does he have anything to do with Harry's survival that night?? |
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